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Henry120: So Janes defence and SAAF website are all telling lies?

That's the unofficial SAAF website ran by Dean.

I'm a regular on his forum.

Henry120: Since patchesagain, patches689 is too ashamed to answer the question, MikeZA, please answer this question.

what claim? You can quote.

Patchesagain: Old website buddy

I know you love outdated information. But this is pathetic

Yes.

Can we say the Torgos cruise missile is in development,when we all know it currently in the freezer.

Can we also say the Umbani glide bomb is on development,when we know it is operational and sold to some country? Rebranded as the Al tariq.

Henry120: I don't think I mentioned G7 anywhere in my post. Can you point out where I did?

Is it in service? NOPE. But the army has it.

The Mokopa is in production and SA has it.

Henry120: Neither do your data links.

All this to sleep at night?

Prove it please.

Henry120: It clearly states "NOT ordered".

So, your new trick is to claim a website is old, when you're caught telling lies?

The G7 is not ordered too.

agaugust: Yes prove it now !
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Were lying to us about Valour class frigates?

Yes or No.

Before we can go forward.

agaugust: That pre-cooled is ONLY for stealth valour frigate you dummy, your submarine is NOT a stealth submarine....fool

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So you provided us with lies?

What were saying about the Valour class releasing heat and exhaust gases ? Should I quote you?

You pulled your statement?

Now on subs.

Before releasing the gas into the sky,exhaust gases are sprayed with water or "other" method is used inside the snorkel to cool them.

Don't want me to totally prove who's the foo..l?

agaugust: [size=14pt]Oga Henry, Mokopa missiles DON'T exist in South African air force till today 2014....

These guys have been using photos to spread lies !!!

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/53/mokopa-anti-armour-missile[/size]

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G7 105mm howitzer isn't in service with the army,but how come they have it?

Similar to the Badger IFV?

Reasoning that because some weapons aren't operationalised,doesn't mean they can't be fielded nor that the armed don't have them.

Similar to MANPADS.

agaugust: .

.[size=16pt]New Shock On Nairaland :

South African Air Force Has NO SINGLE Mokopa Anti-tank guided missile

They have been telling lies to us since 2012 on this forum

Rooivalk has ZERO anti-tank capability in SAAF !

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/53/mokopa-anti-armour-missile
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Funnily the Mokopa missile is in production.

See how our sites are better than that peasant standard blog?

Henry120: Do you even know what TDL means?

You should ask your self that question.

agaugust: Range is NOT Altitude dumbo

Starstreak altitude is 1km only, the Mi-35 dives to rocket your army with 4km range S-8 rockets at 4km altitude, your toy Startreak will be useless and watch your army die while being R.aped by NAF Hinds
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Oh Mathematics.

agaugust: Okay, you have only TWO Badger IFVs

Nigeria's two T-84 tanks will k.ill both of them at the same time



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You increased from one to two? That quick?

Meaning you really don't how many Badgers SA has.

The missile variant carries 4 missiles: 2 for each.

Patchesagain: citations or pictures

either will do

with something like a TDL, citations are better

Your pictures of some guys in a plane doesnt actually show a data-link. It shows some guys, in a plane, looking at a screen.

. Again computers are hardware,and not software.

To prove what his asking for,you'll have to provide web links to "apps" those computers run.

MIL-STD data links are operated on those computers. But is doesn't all "computer" have data links.

Data link=/=Computers.

Patchesagain: Nigeria has no data-link, you have only posted pictures from inside a plane.

We have posted many links with refrence to LinkZA

Its ok, Nigeria is simply very backwards. I am sure you will get one one day

Mate,it isn't our problem that the Nigerian military listens or is influenced by bloggers.

Bloggers whom seem more concerned and bent on Nigeria introducing new hardware,other than looking at a wide range of factors('Packages') which might benefit Nigeria both economically and militarily.

Their primary factors or choices on acquisitions are largely centred around costs,capabilities and geopolitics.

That's why Nigeria's defence industry will continue lagging back and as people focus more on "off-the-shelf" weapons.

The reason why many Nigerians like Augubugbu tend to think SAAF Gripens are normal C and D versions. Similar to the submarines.

Reason why he doesn't know what's "Link-ZA".

Henry120: "Multi-TDL Network (MTN) refers to the network of similar and dissimilar TDLs integrated through gateways, translators, and correlators to bring the air, land, and sea common tactical picture and/or common operational picture together."



We showed the above in the rescue of the hijacked vessels off the coast of angola and ghana. We also provide pictorial evidence to show our infastructure.



SANDF over to you. Show us Operational South-african Data links?

Similar to TDLs.

Now go think.

Henry120: Show us SANDF operational Data Links? Why is this simple, straight forward demand so difficult?

what do you wanna see?

Tell me!!!

Link-ZA is installed in the Gripens,when you see a Gripen(hardware) there's link-za tracking it(software)

Henry120: Oga, what's with all these emotional, girly talk?

I only asked for pictorial evidence of SANDF working Data links, not valour frigate combat suite.

Instead, you chose to go down the emotional route.

LOL

Software vs Hardware.

Just tell me what do you wanna see?

Henry120: In nigeria's case, we showed you the Air station, GCS and High-powered surveillance systems all linked together, which helped us in apprehending hijacked vessels off the coast of Angola and Ghana.

#Functional Data Links



Provide pictorial evidence?

Or didn't you guys say pictures are worth more than a thousand words?

MIL-STD data links.

Command and control posts have those computers,to monitor ops. Similar to radar stations. It doesn't equate to MIL-STD data link.

Henry120: Pictorial evidence?

Link-ZA.

What's Nigeria's?

NaijaPikinGidi: Learn to read and comprehend! #noTime

You wanna bring facts. Yay or Nay?

Henry120: Pictorial evidence of functioning Data Links please?

Similar to asking me to proof with pictorial evidence the Valour class combat suite.

Your mind can't differentiate between hardware and software.

Tell me what you wanna see!!!!

Evidence has been provided,patriotism blindness.

Henry120: Pictorial evidence.

You provided no evidence.

Pictures of what?

You want me to behave like you and post things like the SANDF compact C2 systems or the air picture display systems?

Henry120: 10.

The South African air force has 11 Rooivalk attack helicopters.

Back up your claims with evidence.

Henry120: #Show us your Data Link?

You don't have any Data Link.

How?


What do you wanna see?

Cause evidence has already been supplied.

Henry120: Neither do you. You only have 10 Half-French helicopters. Nothing to sing cum ba ya over.

11 Rooivalk attack helicopters.

Patchesagain: Payload =/= Weapons payload

We all know the Rooivalks armament

Payload can refer to many things from fuel tanks,EW jammers to additional sensors.

GreenandGold: Ladies first

Lmaoooooooooo

Henry120: The Country we all know which has no Data Link is South-Africa.

Link-ZA.

Nigeria's?

Henry120: A blog which has over 1 million visitors each week, represents a strategic tool for everyone, including those at the top brass who understand information is key.


And, many, doesn't mean better.

No,one understand that in your military please.

Better!!!!

[quote author=Patchesagain][/quote]The Badger is a beast!! !! !!

People are impressed by the prototype,the real versions which will be different are gonna cause so much butthurt.

agaugust: We too proved to you that NAF got new 4th Generation world class jet fighters this month, read and collapse......

"The latest fighter jets in the world would start arriving the country this week. Informed top military sources disclosed to the Nigerian Tribune at the weekend that the fighter jets, up to a dozen in number, were purchased directly by the Nigerian Air Force. The source revealed that the jets are capable of bombing in the night."


http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode


Case Proved. Case Closed

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show us please.


You can't provide pictorial evidence?

That equates your arguments to nothing but fantasy stories.