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S0ny just made my day. I knew it would c0me to this after Ven0m did so well. I guess Tom Holland is out now.

uunwanaobong3:
HONESTLY, LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD, I AM BEGINING TO GET CONVINCE THAT VAR WAS SOLELY CREATED TO STOP MANCITY FROM WINNING PRIMEIR LEAGUE AND CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and also help liverpool to win primier league.
Last year, VAR allows lorente hand ball goal to stand but disallow city marginal offside goal at injury time.
Liverpool won super cup because VAR could not over rule liverpool keeper whose both legs were off the line during penalty shøötout.
VAR deny jesus goal last week stating that sterling was a millimeter offside despite replay showing that both players were on the same line.
Now today VAR deny mancity a clear and open penalty when lamela wraps his hand around rodri neck and pull him down during corner kick. But VAR was quick to disallow mancity goal despite reply showing that the ball slightly brush of laporte hand as both laporte and totenham defender arm were wrap against each other unknowingly... Believe me this var is a witch hunt to deny city their trophies... So far two mancity goals has been cancel

u didn't c0mplain when var allowed aguero's offside.

TheKingIsHere:
My brother, i just tire for these clowns..

The same Minemrys that is saying that DC should come out like marvel to state their films is the same guy that was accusing DC of trying to copy marvel style into synder films..

What exactly do these set of confused people want from DC?

guy, go back to my c0mments, when did i say this? When did i talk abt wb or dc unveiling their film slate? Are u sure i was the one or u are mistaking me with skseries? Guy, do u have a problem with me or what? U kn0w what i hate m0st in the world? S0me0ne attaching me to s0mething i did n0t say. My b0ne of c0ntenti0n has always been a c0ntinuity in the dc films said to be in the dceu n0t the lack of a release slate or whatever. Bros, d0n't menti0n my username unnecessarily again pls. Am d0ne with this thread.

Skseries:
lol it's so bcus they know tgey will make money with it... Looks like Reeves know what he is doing with the Batman movies if the knew in circulations are true. It should be nice....



Problem DC are having right now is they have some character in the DCEU doing well eg WW, Aquaman and sharzam so they don't wanna just cancel. And they also wanna do things new.


I feel what they can do is.

1, hire new batman to replace Affleck. Use him to do flash back into Pattinson Batman. Create a Pattinson Batman and make it a universe where we have other characters Robin and the rest. That way we know we have two universe the DCEU and the Bat universe.

2. Give us a MOS 2 movie. Feature the new batman freely give him a badass scene to make ppl excited to see him more.

3. Do the already planned Black Adam, dywane is a good market for them and tease a black Adam shazarm in the ending.

4. Do shazarm 2 director already said it's not gonna be black Adam villian. So just make it a little more serious to appeal to the the adult folks too.

5. Birds of prey and suicide squad is still in the DCEU timeline. Let them remain so.

6. Now introduce green lantern Corp movie and establish a universe for them.

So now we have Batman superman GL shazarm WW and flash cyborg in the established universe.

7 now do a new justice league movie completely fresh.
With a grade A destruction event. Make darkside the main villian

They can introduce new character during the justice league too.

And then let them lose the fight to darkside. Let him kill off important characters superman Batman even Wonder woman. Let him take over earth forcing Barry to have to run back in time.

Then it can lead to the flash point paradox movie.
Where we get to see Pattinson as a younger Batman in the DCEU.

agree to disagree. They've ruined everything fr0m the beginning.

Skseries:
will try an read abt it today sha

don't bother, they didn't even state why. What's online is just clickbait.

Skseries:
that's even true I totally forgot James wan produced it, the problem I have is how he defends them as if he works with them and have inside information that the public don't have... Annoying part was they announce the cancellation after ep 1 so alot won't av bother watching. If they had waited for last ep alot off ppl will av been engroy in it and will av been clamoring for new studio to pick it...

i d0n't think its abt viewership. There's alot behind the scenes of that cancellati0n and it aint budgetary reas0ns, am sure of it.

acekhalifa:
Just because it will not make any reference or contain any Easter Eggs doesn't mean it is not connected to the dceu. For now, Joker is the only movie that is entirely outside of the dceu.

then how do we kn0w its inside the dceu? N0ne of the actorz in bvs or jl related to batman are in it. So, what's the c0nnecti0n?

Skseries:
Bros at some point I just got tired of the argument cus it looked like I was going out of my way to stay the obvious. Am just surprised how ppl here defends studio and company. And say someone is attacking DC or Marvel. They have no idea how much I wanna see DC do well just as marvel.... If u read about Disney studio their plan, how they hire their actors and how they run their studio for marvel movies u will just be impressed. And u will see DC announce and cancel again it's just heart breaking.

dc and cancellati0n are 5 and 6. They ann0unced a deathstroke film, had the actor cast only to cancel it after raising the man's hope of employment. So was the flash film, w0nder w0man film b4 patty jenkins came on board and even cyborg. N0w, we are getting a birds of prey film, isn't that s0mething that should've been a 10 epis0de series on warner media? How the heck are we getting films like that b4 a flash film? Why is ww84 c0ming out b4 a MOS 2 or The Batman? And they say Dc has a plan. Trust me, its alot m0re plausible for matt reeves to walk out of the rob pattins0n film than for it to go into producti0n.

Skseries:
funny enuf if u read the full plan of synder for the JL and after u will be angry with WB for forcing the guy out and calling Joss whedon to comma mess it up even more... Marta was suppose to die even cyborg was gonna die and then flash will have ran back to reset things which will lead to flash point paradox... Lol and #Thekingishere said the idea of resetting the timeline with flash point is senseless.. and a director with experience had the same idea for his movie.. he is just funny sha

i d0n't just kn0w. He is too fanatical with his love for Dc that he fails to see that there really is no road map for the so called dceu. If its the stand al0ne method they are headed for and n0t a shared franchise, then its okay. But lets n0t pretend like there's a shared c0ntinuity.

TheKingIsHere:
Why do you want to know if it's in phase 1 or 2?

Is DC marvel?

They decided to do their own thing. They don't want senseless comparison of phase 1 and phase 2 with MCU. Is there anything wrong with that?

So because they didn't say this is phase 2, it means they lack directions? Na wa!

then it isn't a c0nnected c0ntinuity then. We'd just call it the Dc franchise instead of the dceu. Even the jl series had a chapter or phase. There was the Origins phase, the cadmus/brainiac phase. Every creative work has a timeline, a chapter if it builds a c0ntinuity. Check Wizarding world for example. Fr0m its start, it sets itself for the duel btw dumbledore and grindelward. It builds history 4 dis characterz but the so called dceu where things are supposed to be c0nnected, is, i d0n't kn0w.

TheKingIsHere:
Did you say after the first 7 MCU film, you knew that they were heading for infinity wars? Bro take am easy dey lie biko.

u saw the end credits with than0s ryt? What story often featured or is than0s m0st fam0us for? Right, if i was lying, why the rave excitement abt than0s after the release of The Avengerz even when he barely had a line?

TheKingIsHere:
Lol, I know you will come out to support this.

But as usual, you ignored the part where he said synder caused a great harm in the dceu.

Selective amnesia I presume? Shior!!

i replied what i wanted to reply to becos i d0n't want to go into an argument that has no positives. Yea, snyder did the dceu a great harm by listening to n0lan and making M0S in the 1st place. He did an0ther harm by agreeing to c0-ordinate a franchise when he could've g0ne the route of david fincher. I see ur main problem is snyder, but man, it's 2019 and snyder's kn0wn dceu direct0rial work was bvs and jl 2 and 3 yearz ago. He's g0ne, shouldn't we n0w see the focus point the new dceu is headed in terms of storyline? Is it still a dceu or just mixtape of standal0ne films with easter eggs as d0ne in batman and robin.

TheKingIsHere:
With seven films you came to this conclusion?

When MCU was in their 7th film, how many of their plans did you know?

SMH

by then every0ne knew they were headed for infinity war. With dc 7 films, we d0n't kn0w if we are in phase one, earth one or headed for flashpoint, crisis, kingd0m c0me or elseworlds.

Skseries:
as long as u don't step out that fanatic box and look at things from outside u will keep feeling like this.. if u read well I clearly said marvel don't make fantastic movie, they just av built that trust over time. Point of correction X-Men 1 to 3 wasn't trash neither was the second fantastic 4, only the first fantastic 4, fantastic 4 Silver and the recent fantastic 4 that was trash. And again that's my opinion.... Someone here said Syfy have a track record of cancelling their show so DC didn't know that? Was there no signed contract btw the two party on swamp thing? Come on, this is DC property any thing that goes wrong have over all effect on them, if u are using my property then u most clearly state certain things.. av not read the issue with swamp thing very well but I still feel they didn't do their part well... Now talking of marvel and DC pilot into thier universe, marvel made iron Man 1, was over all accepted iron 2 and 3 wasn't really accepted, but they made other movies good bad but they had a plan and direction and kept to it.. now DC made MOS it wasn't nicely accepted right, they saw what marvel were doing and wanted to copy so they had BVS made and how did it turn out?

bros u dy mind thekingishere? He's talking abt financial misc0mmunicati0n as if there was no c0ntract detailing budget costs and so on. They hired James wan to exec produce it, u would think Wan would have the whole thing mapped out and forwarded to Wb b4 they'd agree to m0ve with the series. There is alot to the cancellati0n but it's n0t cos of financial misc0mmunicati0ns. There was a business plan and blueprint showed wb c0ncerning producti0n costs and so on, is the dude saying wb execs didn't see it?

Skseries:
if u av been reading my comments u will no am not, neither do I support anything or anyone blindly... Am surprised as a DC fan u can't admit that DC has no clear cut plan for their future

ur c0mment and Var brought me great joy today. Surprisingly, all of a sudden u guys n0w care abt Krypt0n. I thought i was the only one following it since no one here wanted to talk abt it.

Merimental:
I laugh n Laugh n laugh wen ppl say VAR was introduced to ruin LIVERPOOL's chances of winning.

NO!
It was brought to Curtail City's dodgy wins.
Last season against arsenal,westham, Liverpool etc dey got away with dodgy goals

TANK GOD 4 VAR.
REDS LOVE VAR.
VAR will neva Walk Alone.
Ynwa

brodaly, no mind those haters. Since the start of this seas0n, Man City have been caught offside m0re than 7 times. Even aguero goal was offside. Tottenham could've w0n. Sterling na offside master.

hulk616:
Pu7pl3 are you seeing what bale is doing ?
1 Assist

sheybi u guys are happy n0w? I watched u guys' match. I told u zizou kn0ws what he is doing. In f0otball, mind games are a strategy.

Raydos:
Is not easy, he knows that before he touch any trophy again

Nah 50 years to come!!

Abi no be Liverpool again??

u sure?

TheKingIsHere:
You are just confusing and contradicting yourself. I thought you said supes didn't have the backing of the US government when it was clearly shown even in this film that the US president was begging Superman to save them from zod. SMH

jesus christ, where did i say superman didn't have the backing of the U. S govt? U asked me why batman didn't account to the govt for his acti0ns and i pointed out that to the u.s govt, batman is a vigilante who only has the support of gcpd and n0t the U. S govt. Meaning the govt do n0t support batman's activities whereas superman is the boy scout. And supes being the boy scout didn't act like one by n0t having a n0n powered zod sent to pris0n. Usually in the c0mics, animati0n and even MOS that's what kent does. Ever w0ndered how c0me zod's body got to the u.s govt in Bvs or how the govt got to access the krypt0nian ship? Batman on the other hand does n0t report. N0w it baffles me why kent didn't do this in superman 2.

And that's why I came in saying that supes never killed zod in Superman 2, rather he defeated them and they fell into an abyss... No one knows what happened. **Guess what?** They didn't die and it was shown in the Donner's cut on TV back then when the article police came and arrested zod, Ursa and non along with lex.

why would wb leave such vital info fr0m the theatrical cut? Mind u, the theatrical cut is the can0n. And why would superman throw a powerless, defenseless man into an abyss in the cold and miles fr0m civilizati0n when he could have just gagged them?

I should be asking you this question because all your straw man argument seems to be gotten from Snyder's fanboy TV.

i never menti0ned snyder in my arguments mind u. My argument was on the c0ntents in MOS.

I did some more research and here is part of the Donner's cut of the Superman 2 film which was fully released on TV back then clearing the air that supes didnt kill zod. Click on 0.15sec and 0.25sec for it]

directorial cuts aren't treated as can0n. And worst of all it was released decades after the main film and as an anniversary f0otage of sorts. It's like bl0oper reels. If such info was deemed vital by wb, they'd have left it in. And going by ur logic, releasing the theatrical versi0n shows there was no c0nclusi0n/resoluti0n to the film/c0nflict.


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After the crisis, the red lanterns rained in the red skies and raged in a victory! Joy at last!

TheKingIsHere:
The argument wa bout supes killing zod in Superman 2. That's where I came in.

So you think the American authorities will not want a super powered alien to experiment on right? SMH

As for giving account to the US govt, how many account did the likes of Batman etc give the US govt.

You guys don't have a point. You are just clinging unto straw

Errors in ur argument shows u really don't get the argument. 1. Zod was no l0nger super powered. He was obviously rendered n0thing m0re than an average being. 2. Batman is a vigilante protected by the gcpd. His activities aren't even wanted by the govt. And he aint a boy scout who follows the rules. Superman is, but the so called Reeves superman acted differently. N0w, the genesis of the argument was iuwe/blackspider claiming MOS to0k away supes pers0nality by making him kill zod. N0w i proved that superman the m0vie t0o killed zod instead of acting like the all american hero and taking him to answer for his crimes after rendering him powerless whereas MOS' kent was forced to. Seriously@bolded, did u watch superman 2?

Blackspider:
Which kind post shifting brought racism

Is said species not colour of skin . Racism is about colour. Stop post shifting na

Is Clark and Zod not kryptonians again?

hulk616 c ur guy. Racism is abt race n0t just colour. Since there aint a word for alienism or krypt0nism, we should just use racism, since superman according to u favors n0t killing zod cos he is krypt0nian like him c0mpared to other alien race.

hulk616:
I don't like EPL teams

ehen. So u hate us t0o ba?

Blackspider:
To Clark, they are of the same species

i give up. So what u are saying is superman is racist n0w? Bros, the argument d0n do abeg.

hulk616:
Minemrys please show Chelsea no mercy oooo
I want Liverpool 6 0 Chelsea

lol. Easier said than d0ne. Why d0 u hate chelsea?

TheKingIsHere:
Lol, i just expected this.

Now, we are talking about the superman 2 movie. Not the comics.

In the film, we do not know what happened to Zod, ursa and non at the end. We saw them fall. Thats all.

That is what the director felt was needed by the audience back then.

You asked this question "Superman to0k Lex to the authorities right? Why didn't he do same to zod and the otherz?"

And I asked you "Okay, if Zod is dead, why didnt superman take his dead body to the mortuary?"

Do you know why there is no answer to both questions? The answer is because nobody KNOWS!!!

And for the record, i do not hate man of steel, what i dislike is you guys use of deceit to cover up for the failure called synder.

the argument wasn't abt snyder. It was abt supes killing zod. And 0n superman 2, you'd expect the american authorities to want him in custody after all the destructi0n on american properties. But yes, he was a boy scout but couldn't account to the U. S govt.

TheKingIsHere:
So because Zod didnt turn up, the rational conclusion is that he is dead? SMH

How will they say anything about zod when they dont know what happened to him after he fell into an abyss? Jezz

So because he didnt say anything about zod after the fight, the rational conclusion was that supes killed zod?


We saw zod, faora and non fall into the abyss, after that we dont know anything. We dont know if they froze, died or anything...



This question is just argghh!!! Okay, if Zod is dead, why didnt superman take him to the mortuary? Oya answer

ah, i was just waiting for this. The point isn't abt zod being killed. It's abt superman rendering all 3 just as powerless as a n0rmal human and throwing them in an abyss in the arctic n0nchalantly without taking them to the authorities to pay for their crimes like he did lex. Weren't they n0w powerless to be sent to belle reeve or stryker's island? What are u folks saying? Superman killed zod in an issue in the c0mics. Even the superman in supergirl series killed zod but yet same critics who bashed M0S's killing of zod praised the portrayal and had no qualms with that kent killing zod. U guys should just say what it is u d0n't want to. U hate MOS and Cavill's portrayal and snyder but n0t the fact that zod was killed.

Blackspider:
Thank God you mentioned aliens and almost killed not killed

zod was human i guess.

pu7pl3:
Yea,no dead body...the villains dead body is always shown

really? Did zod turn up days after? Did the news channel say anything abt zod being captured? Uh, did kent menti0n anything abt zod after? U saw zod, faora and n0n fall into a bott0mless pit, left al0ne in the arctic to freeze. Superman to0k Lex to the authorities right? Why didn't he do same to zod and the otherz?

Blackspider:
Answer ~ He had good home training from the Kent family and was told to look for hope in humanity. Smallville explained it, Comics explained it. MoS said he is finding identity and snapping necks is a priority

funny u should menti0n tom welling's clark, forgetting he actually killed aliens like Titan in seas0n 6. And alm0st killed that sand guy in seas0n 4. H0me training? Yea, but how do u use h0me training against a guy with same powerz like zod who was going on a rampage? Bros, its the last time i'd reply this argument. U want a cheap way that zod would've been defeated, the producerz didn't. Case cl0sed. Even Shann0n loved the idea. So did N0lan. Speaking of humanity. Yes, Zod was human. The human general who murdered jor el, and alm0st killed martha kent.

NeededGist:
Written another scene. Superman doesn't kill. It's no wonder the movie was a flop.

n0w, soldierz always often never pray for war or violence n0 matter how ready u may see them, why? Becos of the nightmares and the reminder of bl0odshed they see even with their eyes cl0sed.

NeededGist:
Written another scene. Superman doesn't kill. It's no wonder the movie was a flop.

superman doesn't kill. Yes. But why doesn't he? S0mething might have made him n0t to. U can't just say a character is religious without showing through his lines and thr0ugh acti0ns how he is and why he is.