₦airaland Forum

Smooth278:
yeah i am...

scarr:
In as much as i think it can be attributed to a number of things but that's a discussion for another day.
Just keep being yourself.

scarr:
I wish i knew the answer to that, beats me too. Although it happens with ladies too but more with men

adepitan278:
MissJoy29:Did I hear you say "bedroom"? What are we going to be doing there? We'll be grinding pepper and onion. Or isn't that what they do in the bedroom?[color=#F1F1F1]k[/color]

scarr:
PreciousBro
MissJoy29
Please get a room

PreciousBro, i think you took this too far real quick. Nobody owes you friendship. For future sakes, kind gestures from a lady doesnt mean she likes u or you guys are a "thing".



Now both of you hug and make up

ugooo88:
you live in a neighborhood/community. one way or another, people know you. I've once had a keke man, who I didn't know, insist on dropping me off in front of my house, a little distance from their bus stop.

Smooth278:
Sorry but I think you have lost the point, there is no explaining assault and battery away regardless of what may have happened... Its almost like domestic violence, it should be condemned in the strongest way possible. The reason we are human is because we have executive functions, we can reason before actions and not just react to issues with violence... There is no one who has not been provoked to anger but the issue is taking it to the violence stage is extreme and wrong... A lot of people have been in worse situations and didn't react with violence...

kunkelhanspeter:
Can’t u write seven hundred thousand in figures?
700,000

ugooo88:
in other news, a doctor went to a tailor's shop, and the tailor charged him more than he would usually charge other people, because he's a doctor.

I know it doesn't really relate to the topic, but then...

Smooth278:
You are telling someone that assaulted a health worker sorry after listening to only his side of the story... Bad perception about the health care system or not, what is wrong is wrong...

mhd5757:
Yes I'm not fukin joking, it happened in gwarimpa General hospital, everybody saw it, I'm sure is something they will not forget.

mhd5757:
The bad experience I had was that a staff who was supposed to collect my card and locate my file refused to do that, he was just sitting there not doing anything, I was talking to him and he completely ignored me while 2 other people gave him their cards he collected and me that I even came before them he refused to collect my own card then I got so angry, I did not know when i started punching him in the face, I even took a chair and tried to bash his head with it but people came and stoped me from doing so. Then one of the staff's apologised and ushered me to go and see the doctor immediately even though my file was not located by that bastard.
When I left the hospital, I tore my card and threw it away, I swore to myself that I'm not going back to that hospital.

optm:
yes i do. communicating rightly is very key in handling these situations.

Gracesofar:
Hi nairalanders, though this happened last month and I still can't find a way to get over it. But the thought was triggered and I had a flashback to it vividly after I read a ladies post here on nairalanders who spoke about her experience with doctors.

Anyway, Being a doctor might be just more than a profession since they are believed more to save lives. But do they really do that. Apart from the bossy act of most doctors Talking of JOHESU vs NMA and them wanting to boss everyone around, I was want to share my experience of how I finally lost hope In doctors which also pointed out that the so-called Hippocratic oath means nothing to most of them.

I was on an official assignment to Lagos that was 3 weeks ago if I can still recollect vividly. And after the whole assignment etc, I was done and around 8pm I decided to leave Lagos back to Enugu. I was with a colleague so who set out and after passing Arepo (very near berger) I think the town name is Magboro. I wanted to park and probably get fruits to aide me she. I heard a loud thud and low and behold the car behind me hit a man trying to cross the express road. The car (a minibus) was on top speed and the impact even confused me on what was happening. I parked and I saw people rush to drag the lifeless man from the fast lane so other cars won't run him over and I was still frozen where I was. This was a middle age man lifeless on the ground with blood gushing out of him. Anyway trust Nigerians some brought out their mobile etc and other were pouring water on the blood dripping man. But I was still socked and confused. Finally, I knew the man will give up the ghost finally if he didn't receive medical attention on time. So I spoke to my colleague and we went to meet the gathering crowds and decided to help this man. We don't even know anywhere around so we just asked if anyone knows a nearby hospital and hell yeah there will always be a good Samaritan out of every 12. Anyway, we but this man in my car and with 2 other strangers showing us the route we started drubuing towards the nearest hospital in an attempt to save this complete stranger live. Getting to the hospital after much blood was on my car seat we took this man out and called the doctor in charge of the private hospital which I can't even remember the name but I know its very close to Access International School in Magboro very close to ibafo Ogun state.

Upon the doctor seeing him, he asked who the famiky so we just explained and I realise his countenance changed. He said he can't attend to him without a family member there. I never knew what the doctor meant because to me the only set of people hospitals don't attend to is bullet wound victims and at least they must give first aid.

That's how the doctor started talking that who will foot the bill etc. That he will give him treatment bla bla bla. I got so angry and I asked him if his money is more essential than a fellow human live. Anyway I told him I had no cash but if they use pos, I will deposit all the money he needs because am still going to Enugu that night. Looking at the time its to 9. The doctor said they only do cash payment etc and he can't take him in without getting some payment to start it. My colleague asked if he accept bank transfer he said No just cash. Haba I got annoyed and I sowed him my ID card when he realised am a military personnel he lower his tone of talking and he said he his sorry they don't even have any spare bed or the medications to stabilize him. Haba anyway ouyt of annoyance I issued him threat that I don't even know the man from genesis am just doing my own to save humanity. I realised he was too money conscious so I told him to Bleep off. We put the man in my car again and went to another private hospital. Getting their we had almost same issue. And to cut the long story short he doctyor didn't even give him first aide or try stabilizing him. He just said I should get a government hospital around. I was so frustrated and I loosed hope in doctors that night over been money conscious not minding an innocent life paying the price with something less than 50k. Fast forward one of the boys said he knew a government clinic at the other side. And we drove their as at then it was almost 10 at this time this man was still breathing though very slowly and he was loosing lots of blood. Anyway we got to the government hospital where I can't even describe. And I was told to write a statement etc. And before the man would be stabilized, he gave up the ghost that night.

Though have seen people die and I don't feel any way bad but that made me feel so demoralized. I'd only the first two private bastard called doctors can take him in, he will still be alive. I left the hospital and they said they will bag him etc.

Anyway that night I started my journey to Enugu and till today, my hatred for doctors hisnjust so mega even though my fiancee is a medical student.

This is a true life story that happened 3 Saturdays ago if only I was thinking straight enough to get the hospitals name

optm:
docs re not all knowing . there are some situations we run out of ideas and comming up with a diagnosis may not be instant nd may require sending for further tests, sharing with colleagues and consulting other academic mediums. there are even cases one may not even b able to come up with a diagnosis even after al these. knowledge is continually acquired and experiences teaches us aswell.

Jascon4:
From your first post down the line till this one, you made a truck load of sense. I couldn't agree more. All the instances that you have enumerated here are ugly experiences that I have had from our supposed professional caregivers, both Doctors and Nurses. It is like a highly contagious disease that has affected the majority of Nigerian doctors/Nurses practicing in Nigeria.

Do not pay heed to those saying otherwise, they mostly lack objectivity and are not in any way at the receiving end of this anomaly.

Stallion93:
Perhaps you're right....,Or perhaps they're just scared of going through the same thing u went through or even worse because they know they are guilty of the terrible welfare of those doctors.

cosmatika:
Having gone through ur post, these re my deductions;
1. U re wat we call " difficult patients ". U already have bad mind for Drs, so no matter wat they do for u, u ll still not be satisfied.
2. Ur type of person reads rubbish on Google b4 going to d hospital. So u get there and start asking rubbish questions. And if I must tell u, Drs hate it wen u come to d hospital to tell dem ur diagnosis. Since u already know d diagnosis, go and treat urslef.
3. U must know dat u re not d only one dat has a problem. D Dr u re consulting may have a bigger problem than urs. So don't go to d hospital to frustrate him with ur life.
4. U re not d only one waiting to see a Dr. U shud know we re short staffed in Nigeria in terms of Drs. So don't expect d Dr to waste the whole day seeing only u.
5. U or ur close relation must have been frustrated from studying medicine, so we understand ur vernom against Drs


NB- I'm a Dr. I've had a lot of patients commend me for my patience, depth of knowledge and how I lecture dem abt their ailment, but ITKs like u don't find it funny with me. U re in d hospital to consult a Dr and not for a lecture. I can't take all d MBBS and professional exams, den u ll still come to quiz me like I'm in a viva

NoToPile:
It's a Nigerian thing.

An average Nigerian takes advantage of any one they seem to have a little edge over its mostly the young newbie docs that have this arrogant egoistic attitude anyway. All the doctors I have seen that have this attitude are still the ones at the lower part of the ladder still building up.

The one that wanted to burst my water during labor was rash, removed his gloves hastily and shouted that he will leave me for 4hours simply because I said he should let me calm down for some seconds before he did the stuff, I was stiff I needed to calm down, a senior doc came in asked what happened and then said calmly it won't pain, that infact he would do it for me all I heared was pim and I didn't even feel anything except the trickle of water.

Those consultants, attend to patients better and with professionalism, you ask questions they will answer you nicely. I guess experience has a lot to do in this. I have had a prof attend to my son at a teaching hospital and the experience was quite different, nice attitude despite the fact that he's elderly, listens to your talk and answers all your questions and it reflected on the other doctors working with him too.


All in all the ultimate is not to have anything to do with hospitals except when necessary (childbirth etc) especially govt hospitals.

Mizk:
Doctors should be able to listen to your problems, tell you the cause of your problems, how to prevent it and treat it, the OP is right, but we're in a country where money is valued more than human life, I once had an incident with a standing fan, it cut me so deep i was bleeding profusely,

I was taken to the hospital by my older bro who had only 5k on him, since i was loosing so much blood it is supposed to be an emergency situation, but these so called lazy auxiliary nurses asked me to wait in the reception with my bleeding hand, i was feeling cold and dizzy, after what seemed like 30mins of constant yelling from my bro, they agreed to attend to me, could you believe they requested for 10k deposit? My bro urged them to take 5k and start treatment so he can use the ATM or my parents can pay because they're on the way, they adamantly refused, my bro was pacing thinking of what to do before the doc stepped in and he accosted the doc, made him see reasons before he agreed they should proceed with treatment.

Merryglad:
I went to general hospital that should be may 5th how can i forget, i had a severe stomach ache. There i was was pouring my pain out to the doctor, only for him to ask me whats paining you inside the stomach? I said i dont know sir and he said why do you think i know.?

Stallion93:
The government is the cause, Imagine a country where doctors go on strike, NMA and Johesu are always at war for no rational cause, mind u even CMDs in those hospitals go abroad for sneezing. That's why it's not particular to just 1 hospital, when smth gets global then the central Power is at fault, plz direct your grievance to the government. And those doctors that attend to u can't wait to leave this Shiithole

emperor94:
I have to say Ma, I'm very disappointed by this opinion of yours much so because I just lost someone very dear to me due mainly to doctors' incompetence. At the end of the day they still charged close to 1M on top person wey dem no save oo. I pray you don't have an experience such as mine... Finally, my guess is that you are in the Medical field.

eyinjuege:
If you need someone to talk to, get a therapist.
If you want a Dr to spend as much time with you, it's best you go to a good private hospital. They will give you your money's worth.
When you go to a government hospital, their clinic time runs strictly on schedule. They cannot afford to stay longer than necessary in clinic as they have other responsibilities in the hospital. They still have their ward patients to look after, they have presentations to present to their peers and to also learn. Even abroad, you will be lucky if you get 15minutes with your Dr, except in countries like the US/Canada where you actually pay for the time or your insurance pays. Unlike other countries in Europe where their healthcare is almost free.
In clinic, there are hundreds of patients waiting to see them, and you aren't the only one. I'm sure if the patient before you stays too long, you will still complain. and when its your own turn, you won't want to leave on time too. We all know once the time for clinic is over, they will leave. Do you want other patients after you not to be seen?

babajeje123:
Stop intimidating us by saying they will leave. Let them leave for all I care. The truth is that many Nigerian doctors are proud and expect people to lick their asses because they spend donkey years in school.

IZIBLAZE4JESUS:
Being a health practitioner myself, i can say most of what you said up there are true having also passed through some nonchalant attitude of some Nurses (in particular ). However u must also try to view thibgs from The Doctors point of view. Most hospitals are understaffed, un equipped and unfit for top services as compared to those outside the country. This doesn't give room for any lackadaisical attitude bt it sure foes have an effect on the Health workers too

Caseless:
Not too far. From aba, you could get bus to Kaduna. Stand at tower in umuahia, you'd get direct bus to Kaduna. The peace mass in umuahia connects Abuja too, from here you could connect Kaduna via train. The abia transport park connects Kaduna/Abuja.

It's all up to you.

chigoizie7:
oga u are not alone .

Nigerian doctors are the most useless set of people after the law enforcement agents and the politicians.

IN a General hospital, a patient was operated on, CS brought back to the ward, after some time, she started experiencing pains, severe pains, she called the doctor, it took the useless thing ages to appear, and when she did, on asking her patient what the matter was, her phone rang, she picked it right before her patient, was on call for minutes, laughing like a slowpoke while speaking to whoever it is, realizing that she was shouting while laughing, she left the ward to do her gisting while her patient who was in pains was waiting to tell her what she wanted to tell her, to my surprised she left after the call, only to return hours later to ask, eehn, madam, what type ofmpains did u say u were experiencing?

In that same hospital, out of their carelessness, she lost the baby, because another fool of a doctor wasn't patient enough to read what the chief cunsultant wrote.


I have had so many encounters with Nigerian doctors that I had to out of annoance shouted at a doctor and told him why they are so useless to the society at large, later called me to ask why I felt that way, I told him my many encounters with so many of them, and he didn't deny it, only telling me it is just few and not all.

The reason is because no body is regulating that profession, how can a doctor be working in a gov't hospital, where he or she is paid and at the same time running a private hospital?

U have morning shift in a teaching hospital, then u also have patients whom u must see in the morning , examine them and see how they are. Or someone brought an accident patient into your private hospital, But u were at the public hospital doing another job, is that not insane? Then u are called that u have a patient, u will abandon those at the public hospital for ur private, and then a patient is brought to u to take care of at the public hospital, how is that taken care of?


And then , those in authority, will turn a blind eye to it, because all of them are guilty of same thing.

The Nigerian medical authorities knew about all these, but they will keep their mouths shut.

Afam4eva:
A lot of Nigerian doctors are so full of themselves. They just want to prescribe drugs or whatever it is, for you without actualy telling you what is wrong you. When you ask, they shut you down like you're asking too many questions. I had a medical problems for years and after moving from Fderal Medical center, LASUTH and a couple of private hospitals, i just decided to heal myself instead. In the government hospitals, it takes a lot of time to really get anything done. I went for consultation, the doctor talked to me rudely and consequently directed me to the Endocrine department and those ones gave me an appointment to come back in 3 months time. I couldn't wait.

Reddington and a couple of other high end hospitals were only interested in collecting my money. Just speaking with a doctor for 5 minutes will deduct 30k for your account and they make sure that they tell you to come back for follow up consultation thereby bleeding your account without profering any solution.

Other cheaper hospitals only know about Malaria and Typhoid. Infact, they should just change the names of their hospital to "Malaria and Typhoid center" instead of hospital. Even after carrying out a test in Clinix (one of the best dignostic centers), the doctor said i should go and redo the test but this time in a diagnostic center that he owns or co-owns.

O boy, no time to waste time. I just decided to do my own research on google based on my symtoms and i'm getting better.

eendy:
Having gone through your post, it's sad most of what you mentioned up there turns out to be true... The Nigerian system lacks a structure and the medical profession is not left out, it's sad the art of clearking and examining a patient is really dying so patients are at the receiving end.
Unfortunately the average Nigerian doctor is arrogant but then there are some you encounter ... You get better even before taking your meds.
it's not likely to change anytime soon anyway but then we only home the next generation turns out to be better.
mind you am a doctor.

Baroba:
The funny thing is you don't see them displaying this kind of arrogance when they travel out, I know a Doctor who told me in Nigeria he can experiment, walk someone out of his clinic but his hands are tied in Europe..

It only takes one of these English no nonsense Nurses to get them stuck off it they try that nonsense here.. Na straight reporting one time, before you know it you are facing the GMC..