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Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 11:24pm On Mar 10, 2018
cassyrooy:
Great! cool

I'm not surprised o! A lot of guys just suffer from WOMB ENVY, but they're just misapplying it.

Lemme not go deep into another social problem that has perversed our world, another time. But its really becoming too annoying.

You're really creepy and weird, I seemingly avoided talking about my gamophobic sides and you just dived deep into my thoughts and now splashed it all over the place. cheesy

No lies, when my nice arrived in 2012, I just wanted a baby but avoiding marriage but I looked deep into myself and resigned that I MUST never attempt it, I'd practice serial monogamy than settling for "babydaddyism".

All men can never be the same, some are big, others small, some kind and some others the opposite, etc.

cool Scammers can't even near my side.
Ok...let's not go into it. Another time perhaps(like you said).

Weird? Hell yeah! Creepy? You are confusing me with someone else cos I'm not grin. Oh you didnt avoid anything. You thought you did. It was cos you said it fleetingly that even made me say it about you. Do you feel ashamed that you have gamophobia? undecided

Yeah, being around babies and little children have brought out these maternal instincts in me. But still, things have to be done the right way, dont they?

Amen @your declaration.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 11:07pm On Mar 10, 2018
Toks2008:
Just send it to olakoredeh@gmaul.com and I will add it to my contact n send u a message.

Thanks
Ok. Let me see.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 10:40pm On Mar 10, 2018
cassyrooy:
Lovely, don't lose it yet, else I'll follow suit o. cool

grin grin grin Hahaha! hahaha! hahaha! I'm having a very hard laugh here! Imagine what the dude had in mind. Only God will keep those type of guys out of ones life path.

He really had himself under control indeed. Biko, what's with sex talk and the likes? Perverse psychos scattered everywhere on the cyberspace.

@bolded, I mean, via the number on my profile, I rarely check my mails these days.

Thanks for the word, gamophobia.
Back in January, a friend had issues with her boyfriend cos he was seriously complimenting another girl's body(and overdoing it) even when the gf was obviously offended by the gesture.
Later, her bestie came around and started advising her to get a back up just in case the present dude messes up.

We're living in a messed up world!
I will try not to lose it. It's difficult though. But I will try by God's Grace.

Amen o! My dear, you can never imagine the kind of mental abuse an average girl goes through everyday from these psychos on cyber space. Now, another one, imagine adding someone to your WhatsApp contact & the first comment he makes is about your boobs. I mean who does that! A lot of them too are married and yet hiding behind their keyboard to lure innocent ladies.

Yes, gamophobia. I have it. In fact, a lot of people including you have it. Who wouldn't? The stories we hear make it seem like the disadvantages of marriage are greater than the advantages. Infact, someone once told me that the only advantage he sees about marriage is children (that is if you are not into "babymamaism"wink. But you know what? That's why I guard my heart cos I refuse to give up. I refuse to believe all men are the same (in a negative way ). There are still genuinely good people out there and I Pray God guard their hearts also & cause two beautiful hearts to meet.

Oh! Your number on your profile? cool
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 10:00pm On Mar 10, 2018
Toks2008:
I will add your number to my contact n send you a message.
Where is the number? shocked
I can't post it here o.

That's why I asked if you reply pms
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 9:53pm On Mar 10, 2018
cassyrooy:
Okay, I might be wholly wrong but your optimistic sides are waning out, although you're still far from being pessimistic.

You just can't remove that from my friends, although some think I'm weird or something, but I'm just me.

I like guys who can explicitly discuss one issue and are well detailed about it, not touch it and have it over with, come on, we're discussing not mentioning/listing things.

@the bolded, firstly, I was being sarcastic, not implying he actually did owned you.

Second bolded, it happens! Just hope it doesn't degenerate to abuse.

LOVE!!! Indeed we've completely derailed the meaning of love to suit whatever we want it to be.

The hood were I was raised comprised so many things that scares me about marriage, cheating, abuses, unloved marriage, abandoned pregnancies, single motherhood and many things you can imagine.

Lemme just say love is still a myth, only certain people understands it and can truly show it.

I like it when people try to change other people, I only don't like when they try to impose.

Its good for you to try to change people.

And like you said, if you don't learn positive things you quit, hope you get to teach me positive things too.

@Toks2008, I'll email you, or you leave me a message on WhatsApp via the number in my signature.

Modified: Ms. Joy if don't mind, you can PM me as well.
No you are not wrong at all. I'm not a hopeless optimist & neither am I a pessimist. Just that I try to guard my heart so that the evil happenings do not affect me my outlook on life.

Yeah, I like people who can carry hold down intelligent conversations. For most men though, the only time you get them to be interested in a long term conversation is if you are discussing sex styles. I mean, on a normal day, the chatting can last for just 10 minutes & the light is quenched. Lol...Some even attempt to turn every meaningful question you aksk them into sexual talks. If you don't respond accordingly, you are boring, stuck up & uptight. I once met a sex starved creep from here(have actually met quite a few here). Then I was just responding to pms anyhow with recklessness. I was new to the forum. I realised that all this guy talked about was sex. After I complained & all, he decided to allow me ask questions. I asked him , " so tell me about your area of strength". How this guy turned this answer into a sexual talk amazed me. He said, " well, I have self-control. I can decide to romance and caress and do every other thing to you without penetration". That's how self controlled I am". I was shocked!

Ok...glad you were being sarcastic. cool

Same thing here. Have seen so many shit when It comes to marriage and love relationships that I developed a phobia for marriage(gamophobia).

Unfortunately, I don't know how to do pms here wink.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 9:12pm On Mar 10, 2018
Toks2008:
I have been following up on your convo and as a sapiosexual I am enthused to have you as a friend.

Unfortunately I don't send PMs so of you don't mind you can send your mobile# to olakoredeh@gmail.com and let me add you to my contact.

Even if you are married no worries...it's just friendship and I'm extending same to cassyroy.
Thanks a lot cool
Do you reply?
Romance › Re: Ladies Ask Any Question About Men And Attitudes by MissJoy29(f): 4:45pm On Mar 10, 2018
DeadRat:
Missjoy29 as You Can See, my Experience Sexually Is Different from His so Its Quite Easier for Me To Draw The Line That They Are Same from What I See, thanks For The Correction...



The Munter that Drew The Conlusion that Nigerian Girls Dont Squirt; has He Bedded 20 Nigerian Girls Before Drawin That Line... Person Won Just Spoil The Thread...
You are most highly welcome cool

Thanks too for showing maturity in taking the correction. We need more of this here.Both the "corrector" and the "correctee" need not abuse each other to drive home their points.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 3:44pm On Mar 10, 2018
cassyrooy:
Lol! grin I'm beginning to see another dimension about you.

cheesy Sincerely it's not always we should play the all round person, give me some distance to think and sort things out, trust me, many of the people playing cool everyday might not be cool, some just get bored and start seeking attention. Come on, apply yourself to something and watch it blossom into a beauty. Just disturbing others upandan.

For me being smart and very open to discussions are what makes me want to adjust and do things with someone, love can come and go, but intelligent and smart people are hard to find.

I do long calls and chats only with few guys. This is where being smart comes in, I mean the person you're conversing with gotta be smart.

There was this day I was discussing a movie with someone and he was like, "e make sense!", to me I was like that's all? A seemingly interesting topic can be watered down by just one comment, you get me?

You're his na! Lol!

I look at folks claiming to love, and I ask what do they love about these people and some just say she/he is beautiful or handsome! I don't talk, I leave them to themselves.

If its just love, everyone would have been where they were.

See how from loving you as he met you earlier, to remodeling you to his ideal expectations.
I've changed someone before, it took 3yrs to make it happen, I can't imagine myself trying to do it in one month, I'd failed.
Lol...what dimension, pray tell?

Exactly! I keep saying it. I don't joke with good friends. They are always there through the thick and the thin. Now if you add intelligent and smart to that my good friend, I'm hooked to him or her. cool

Yeah, i get you. Nowadays, if you chat me up sef & say "good morning" & I respnd & you don't follow up with a "how are you? or "hope you slept well?, I don't stress myself continuing the convo. Especially if you have a habit of doing that. People should learn how to carry conversations along biko.

No I'm not. If every man I ever dated "owned" me, I wonder what would have been left of me now grin
Love? A lot of people don't understand LOVE. What they experience is just fleeting emotions. That word has been abused so much that everything stupid and hurtful and deceitful and painful is done in the name of love. A husband cheats on his wife, he LOVES her enough to look outside so as not to get bored with her. A jealous man/woman kills her/his lover, it's cos the lover was LOVED so much that he/she shouldn't be happy with no other person than the murderer. I get hurt & lied to by my partner & it's cos he LOVES me so much that he wants to shield me from hurt. Love!!!!!

You can change for someone. It's normal. But it should be gradual. Not forced. Otherwise it becomes abusive and manipulative.

Except the person didn't stay long enough or is narcissistic & arrogant, I'm not the kind of person that comes into people's lives and not leave it better than I met it. I have that gift to influence positively. cool
That being said, if I'm not gaining anything positive from you, I leave. It's that simple. So, I change people & also get changed by them too. grin
Romance › Re: Ladies Ask Any Question About Men And Attitudes by MissJoy29(f):
DeadRat:
never Seen Them Come Separate actually
That's what you would have said since. Instead of arguing blindly about what you are not sure of. They are actually two different things.

Our bodies are different.
Some can achieve orgasm through penetration, others have never. They can only cum through other ways other than penetration.

Some don't like receiving "head" & can NEVER cum from it. They can even do without it. But others love it so much that it makes them SQUIRT all over & cum so hard that you will think they are epileptic. In fact they are ready to break up with you if you don't "eat" them all up.

Some have never even experienced an orgasm & may never even though they are sexually active.

Some can squirt, others can't & may never. Besides, that "messy" liquid as you called it earlier is what others long to see come out from their partners.

A lot of differences in the way women respond sexually. But one thing is certain sir, orgasm and squirting are two different things. Some can squirt so hard that you would think someone spilled a bucket of water down or up there(wherever they prefer to do it) yet, they haven't reached an orgasm.
Crime › Re: Junko Furuta's Murder: The Worst Death Ever (Photos) by MissJoy29(f): 9:28am On Mar 10, 2018
kwessiStewie2:
my hatred for rapists increased after I watched "I spit on your grave" very disturbing movie. After seeing the movie I fantasized about torturing the rapists to slow painful deaths
Exactly. It was that sick movie that came to my mind as I was reading the story. I was just wishing the girl escaped that place & dealt with all of them even worse than they did to her just like it happened in the movie.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 8:59am On Mar 10, 2018
cassyrooy:
Yes definitely, you don't check up on me and expects me to regularly see how you're doing? Hell no, I'm equally important to myself, I play busy too.

I don't think its that big, I just outgrow them or get too cold towards them. Sincerely, as a nerdy guy(you never will know), my introverted sides will kick in, I'll become the listener, until you see I'm no longer interested in the interaction.

They obviously don't get me, I mostly change my habits if the person is not always a complainant, imagine you changed and later found out the person is a cynic, trying to alter everything about you in two weeks.

Lemme tell you this, I met a girl last year March, she collected my number and sent me a message, we got talking and emotions came in, she started telling me things I have to change about myself, long hair, calling always, chatting always, she never wanted to continue in my roles in politics(in school in particular), and of all keeping off female friends. I unknowingly grew cold and that was it o.

I work hard for everything but let advises be gradual not immediate demands.
That's it. For someone who used to put other people's needs above hers, making the decision to treat others the way they treat me restored my sanity. Life is now easier & better cool

Exactly @grow cold towards them. Same tactics I use.

A lot of people want your life to revolve around them the minute they come into it. I just don't get it. Some people could be so unreasonable. A lot of things to be said here but I will leave it here for now.

I can relate to the story. I'm generally not a call or chatting person. You have to be really good with conversations on interesting topics to get me to do either of those two for long. Now, a new guy comes along & starts whining within hours how you don't give him attention and all. Lol. Except it's a love interest(that can make me adjust), the excessive complaints will just get on my nerves.

Yeah. Study the person first. Understand who he/she was before trying to change the person in one day. I had a guy who asked me out once. Then I was rocking a low-cut. He saw me on the low-cut & asked me out(I have always loved it. I would curl it & dye/ tint it. So beautiful! ) Within days, he started whining about how he loves girls with long hair and weaves and all. He was on my neck about it all the time. Now ordinarily, I could have adjusted. No biggie. After all, adding a weave-on won't stop me from being on low-cut once I remove it. But the way he went about it. He never complained about my hair before asking me out. He probably thought he then owned me just cos he asked me out.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 7:36pm On Mar 09, 2018
pantherblack:
I wanted to comment further but the Lord has sealed my lips and has warned me not to say anything on this thread beyond my last comment. So, i'll pass, this subject matter has a knife somewhere in the corner
Ok...case closed
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 6:54pm On Mar 09, 2018
pantherblack:
oh fake repentance. Now i get, but blaming people not been able to handle the truth is what i disagree with, if we conduct ourselves properly they'll be fewer stories to tell

We should conduct ourselves wisely so we don't have stories to tell and blame hearers when they become intolerant of our baggages.



In life, we're always quick to blame people cause we place people on scales but exonerate ourselves. If we treat others how we desire to be treated, the world will be better. But no way, there's always a " user " feeling smart, and the used. When these pairs meet it can lead to a series of events, anything short of a give and take is unhealthy and bound to explode at some point


We should conduct ourselves well and expect less from people.
Yes. Fewer stories to tell but there are stories nonetheless. You know why? Cos we are imperfect beings who are susceptible to mistakes.

It's good to be careful & mindful of what you do to others (The Golden Rule which by the way,is my watchword). But in the event that someone close to you(I mean your partner) does something really bad, would you prefer she tells you or keep it from you until you find out from another source?

That's where being able to handle the truth comes up.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 6:42pm On Mar 09, 2018
cassyrooy:
I see your points, I've adjusted myself to give everyone their own kind of required behaviour, you neglect or behave badly towards me, I don't bother you as long as its not anything major in my life.

Possessive people don't find their way with me, I shut them down easily, I had a life before knowing them and I'm going to still have one after knowing them.
Exactly! I treat people the way they treat me. Life is simplier that way.

lLol @shut them down easily. How exactly?

So true @you had a life & will continue to have one after meeting them. That's something they obviously overlook. grin
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 1:28pm On Mar 09, 2018
pantherblack:
I disagree with people can't handle the truth. See if our actions are carefully weighed before we carry them out, there won't be much to tell. i.e. if we all do what is right to our capacity, there will be fewer stories to tell about tins beyond our control. But then even when we act, selfishness belies our actions, so when the future demands we open up we blame it on the hearer of our tales when we could have done better. The coin flips both ways.
We are human beings. No matter how careful one is, one can still misbehave. Then you need to genuinely show remorse & make amends.

Note that this is completely different from the person who constantly errs and expects to be taken back all cos he always says the truth.

I don't know if you get me
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 1:19pm On Mar 09, 2018
cassyrooy:
Lol! Humans do different things for different reasons. God should just keep us away from such elements in the society.

@bolded, yeah! You see those ones? They tend to be insatiable, lie o, tell them the truth, they'll still find fault regardless of whatever reasons you give them, like you're flawless or perfectly perfect being.

Good day! My night? Was just there o, not smooth at all!

How's your day going?
Amen o! A very big Amen.

Yeah. And the irony of it is that those ones are the most imperfect. That's why I run away from a man who's unreasonably possessive. Chances are that they are doing worse things than they are suspecting you are doing. I see it this way: if I know I don't delete questionable text messages or call logs from my phone, it may never cross my mind to suspect you are doing same. But if I'm doing them, I will always be sceptical any time I see you on your phone.

Most times it is the bad ones that expect the best from others.

My day? Moving on well thank you
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 12:53pm On Mar 09, 2018
pantherblack:
I evaluated my entire life this week, and each time i saw the devil cornered me, it was thru a friend grin
friends! Most of them now are unfriendly friends. Wolves in sheep's clothing
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 8:21am On Mar 09, 2018
pantherblack:
What we avoid we tend to attract. These your self preserverance and self protective mechanisms. Humph. I dey looku looku. My own is to defend myself in event of any attack with an equal mesaure or ten times running over. I'm sure people know how it feels when they do odds. I tell everyone my good side is good, but do me back i run it over and give it back to you.
What else is there to do? You get protective & over cautious, you get burnt. You throw caution to the wind and loosen up, you still get burnt.

God help us all
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 8:14am On Mar 09, 2018
cassyrooy:
My ex lied to me at the earliest time of our friendship(in a special friendzone box), I got drunk one day like that and slept off to clear it, waking up I realized how I've been used by her.

Tell me the worse things in this life, I'll shake your hand anytime I meet with you, but lie to me(especially in a relationship) I'll plot your downfall.

Those little kinda lies, I get them daily, I just reposition my relationship with that person.
I don't understand the rationale behind lying to the person you claim you love. I just can't erap my head around it. Especially those lies that you know will hurt the person no matter how little.

Yeah, I'd prefer the truth anytime no matter how hurting it sounds to lying to me all in the name of shielding me from hurt. Cos I like this approach, I always do it to loved ones too. But I have discovered that a lot of people claim they love the truth but they can't handle it. They make you wish you lied to them in the first place.

Good morning. Hope you slept well
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f):
pantherblack:
I'm an eternal optimist I haven't lost hope in the world. Stop expecting people not todisspoint, stop measuring people with scales and stop placing expectations on people. Its our overly pristine set of judgement minds and eyes that's the issue. I told a lady ones, if you can treat your husband how ou treat your brother your marriage will be sweet, guess her response. Lai lai
Good advice. I will heed it. It will make a lot of things easier in my life. grin

Good morning. Hope you slept well
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 9:45pm On Mar 08, 2018
pantherblack:
Oh, talking about losing hope in the world. Phew. I pass
Lol...don't pass o. It affects us all
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 9:44pm On Mar 08, 2018
pantherblack:
Since when did you join this team too ? huh
There's always an exemption rule. I triend my emotions, mastered things and was always in control. Never lost it until i met someone i lost it with. Better pray life doesnt make your path cross someone that'll make you lose it. It'll shock you how the wrong person will make anyone lose it in quick successions
Have always been a part of that team...
It's the best team to be on.

I have been in that situation a few times. That moment you think you are in control. You know what to do & you have everything figured out. When you think you are above deceit just cos you read stories online and you think you know all the tactics. And someone from somewhere comes around & spins you around so fast like a rollercoaster and then disappears like they were never there at all. You keep wondering whether they were just a figment of your imagination. At that point you realise that you know nothing about the heart of men (men and women alike).

Yeah, I have been in that situation. Relying on God for guidance now is the safest bet.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 9:35pm On Mar 08, 2018
cassyrooy:
Well, its just pronounced now. Its just too much.

I used to, until I discovered how satisfactory being blunt is. What's with telling people that you love them only to go round their back to thwart them?

I tell people be real with me, lies are hardly forgiven by me.
Too too much!!!!! It's scary.

Same with me. Lying is a no-no with me. I find it difficult to forget it. Especially those seemingly little lies that when you eventually find out, makes you look stupid for not seeing through them in the first place. Those lies that made you say, "I knew it!
Know those types?
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 9:04pm On Mar 08, 2018
cassyrooy:
Amen! grin

You lost it before?

Hahaha! I'm many things my dear, admittedly, I've been a lot for some people but regardless my good sides are just my salvation from my bad sides. I no sabi lie o!
Oh yes I did lose it. I mean who wouldn't? What with the level of selfishness and wickedness and all prevalent now.

Lol @i no sabi lie...I sabi o. But I just choose not to. smiley
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 8:58pm On Mar 08, 2018
pantherblack:
I aint marrying any woman without seeking God. Not eeven Bill Gates's daughter. Make i no go carry load wey too heavy. Some of you our sisters no want marriage, na to dominate men and incapacitate men many dey find.
True. When it comes to marriage, without God in it, I'm not going ahead.
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 6:33pm On Mar 08, 2018
pantherblack:
People can sermonize easily. I'll never take anyone behind a keyboard seriously, not if i'm not the person.


Soemtimes some people bring the worst out of some people. So a good person at the start may not remain so thru the journey, marriage is God, luck and sense
Chai! You get sense too!
Education › Re: See What An English Teacher Wrote On The Chalkboard by MissJoy29(f): 5:51pm On Mar 08, 2018
adekhingz:
LOLZ......I will. grin grin grin grin
smiley
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 5:47pm On Mar 08, 2018
cassyrooy:
Thank you Ms. Joy, very interesting topic indeed.

The bolded areas of your post are just the two points I want to discuss from your very good post.

1. I'm a strong advocate for free womanhood, no matter how much will be said regarding how men and women interact, opposition is inevitable.

We just have to forget what we sometimes read on the virtually unrealistic cyberspace and concentrate on our jobs as husbands. And not just that, but as fathers too.

In marriage, no man is solely a husband and the woman a wife and a mother? Nope! Every stage requires a great deal of adjustment from both parties.

2. Men doing chores, tending to the house and kids isn't any big deal.
Those who contradict are sometimes egoistic and narcissistic. Does it matter who washed or cleaned? People get tall but they don't grow.

In reality, many of those who claim to not do chores will later claim to love their mom more than their dad who spends little time at home.

I don't have much to say but I admire men that are not only husbands, but combines fatherhood with it. Both the wife and children are his priority. Cooking to surprise everyone, understanding the make up of the wife and her moods and tends to her needs.

Many men should be handed Every Woman on their day of wedding and those who will read it will be glad they did.
Chai! God will Bless you. You will surely marry a good wife cool

I don't know what else to say. People like you still give me hope in humanity. I only hope you are also like this in reality cos a lot of people hide behind the keyboard and type what they are not... cool
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 5:37pm On Mar 08, 2018
pantherblack:
See we don't care if a woman can't cook, we can get a cook. na my money kill am.


We don't care if a woman can't wash, we can get a dry cleaner to do the work. Na our money kill am.


What bothers us is when we show care and love, they always throw it back in our faces. So we are careful in dealing with y'all our sisters

Not all women can receive good care without turning into something else. It's about meeting the partner with the right stuff
Hmmmm....exactly @it's about meeting the right partner. Everything we are saying revolves around this statement.
Education › Re: See What An English Teacher Wrote On The Chalkboard by MissJoy29(f): 1:57pm On Mar 08, 2018
adekhingz:
I don't know what to say....
Don't say...just Pray for the country sad
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f):
pantherblack:
I think women want men that makes life hard for them despite craving for good treatment.


Guys be careful how you help a woman. MissJoy29, you be my sister but i will say this oh.


When men show quality care to ladies, they call men weak, too emotional and all sort of names.


So allow me recommend that men need to increase the workload of their wives.


Increase the laundry, house chores, make them pound yam, reject eba, when they finish cooking, reject it so she can prepare a new meal. don't show satisfactipon in things she does, when a woman becomes too easily appreciated they hate it, so do things that will make them keep hopping up and down.



Follow this advice at your peril grin
Oh thank God for your last statement. I almost had a heart attack. grin

I know you are not one of the bad guys. tongue
Family › Re: Where Is Your Wife? by MissJoy29(f): 12:58pm On Mar 08, 2018
pantherblack:
If we follow the formular of effective home planning, and not who wins like it's a competition, both parties can bring the best out of one another without making the climate around the home toxic.

Any man that embraces a woman to show care, support and love is easily termed a weak man, so men need to be careful how they express love for their women. If i use the few expereinces i've had i'll advice men not to overly help a woman in her responsibility oh, you're likely to be called a weak man by an unappreciative wife, the same one you're trying to help
I love the first paragraph! So true!

I have heard a lot of men complain about what you wrote in the second paragraph. So, I will agree with you on that. I'm only happy you said it's an unappreciative woman that can do that.

But then, there are still some men that just derive joy in overburdening their wives even when they know their wives are good women. They are just too "male" to help out.

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