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donstan18:Lol..... ![]() So how do you distinguish between feminists and wannabes on NL? Or do you just label everyone a wannabe for your own convenience? |
donstan18:I'm good. Thanks for asking. But why should feminists be slammed and bashed? Just see how commendable the movement was from the beginning (as the op has already recounted on this thread). Don't you think that the resistance, which men have mounted to oppose the simple rights feminist women wanted for themselves, has given rise to this aggression that sees men as the enemy? Why would you say "no" to the emancipation of women if you aren't malicious? And how would you be considered an ally after that? It's only natural that there would be suspicion about your motives. Some women can stay on the issue (feminists) and some tend to get distracted and end up battling the resistance. Having said that, I think it now goes without saying where my sentiments lie. |
donstan18:Hey, how're you doing? One of them who? Feminists? Let's just identify them by their fruits and ignore labels. You tell me what you see, and I'll try not to argue your perception. |
FVCKWOMEN: ![]() Oh my God, no! No, no, no, no, no! Forgive me! I didn't know what was quoting. I must still be very drunk from Saturday . The first part of your quote, I agree to (I got carried away by it). But you cannot say that Nigerian (or Nairaland) women who claim to be feminists are all misandrists. That's a generalization that just won't stand. |
FVCKWOMEN:This is true. And you're blessed if you can see the difference. |
FVCKWOMEN: FVCKWOMEN:Lol ........oh, dear!We'll take your complaints back to HQ. I'm sure a committee will be raised to look into the matter of your dissatisfaction with our brand of feminism, and adjustments will be made accordingly to please you. Do you think that this stamp of approval that you've given the Suffragettes was extended to them by the men of their time? No. There was a whole lot of whining then too. |
Lol... . Hmmmm.........The Upset-girl, seems like you're becoming the Anti-bunjy around here: A girl with a grudge, or simply on a mission? It's good entertainment though so, I'm not mad at you. On this, however, I can't disagree with Bunji: if you don't have big feet (or big guts), trying to fill somebody else's shoes can leave you swimming about in a massive sea of insecurities. So, it's better when you're only in competition with yourself. It actually IS an ego boost. And many people need this (some girls too). Please don't stand in their way, hun.
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Opentokwowledge:Wow.... ....thank you so much, sweetie. A Happy (Mothering) Sunday to you as well; stay blessed. |
The women who stop loving their husbands when they get broke, are the ones who loved them for their money in the first place. ![]() Let's not pretend that we don't know that a lot of men present their money as their only selling point (in their interaction with women). Even on this forum, guys talk about how unnecessary it is for a guy to build his character, his body, or skills, if he's got money. (Because they think that's the only thing women care about). And you know what they say: if you don't use it, you lose it. If they don't hone their other qualities that could make them attractive and useful to women, they reduce themselves to cash-cows of their own volition. And naturally, there will be women who need cash-cows, but those cows are only useful for cash. Everyone cares about money; we all need it. Some people know how to get it, and some people don't. The next best thing (if you can't get it) is getting someone who knows how to get money. And for a long time, women have been relegated into the "next best" situation. Women married men for financial security. Love wasn't even a factor. But when love was expected, it was naturally equated with the desirability of a man. And his desirability was measured by his wealth. So that still equates love with money, in the eyes of a lot of women in Africa. In those days, if a man's success was his wealth; a woman's success was a wealthy husband. And in this part of the world, we care a lot about what people think of us. Our motivation to be successful is greatly influenced by our neighbors and "enemies". We don't want our enemies to laugh at us. We don't want the devil to win in our lives. So we don't want the shame of poverty or a poor husband; it is not our portion. So even when a person isn't naturally mean, there is a lot of social pressure to reject the things that aren't prosperous, which tend to leave people wondering whether our "God" is alive. However, the guy should persevere. It's not the end of the world. |
Lol. Get turned down nine different ways all in the span of one minute..... Somehow that reminded me of Drew Barrymore in He's just not that into you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGXylVz6KI |
Amarabae:Babe, if you don't hold a man responsible for his own actions, how is he ever going to know that he has the ability to rise above temptation? If you blame the other woman, the devil, the dick, nature...........you might as well just give up, because you cannot change the devil, the dick or nature. But for the other woman now, your blood is hot. She doesn't really owe you anything, though. It's the man who's got a contract with you. He swore to be faithful to you, and you have to hold him to it. If you want to excuse his actions by accepting that men "think with their dicks" that's your problem. He'll thank you for it, and continue to think with his dick. But why can't you make the same concession for a woman? That one probably didn't use her head either (maybe her heart or her pussy). Why do you feel that she owes you the responsibility to use her head, any more than your husband does? Talk about women being their own worst enemy. |
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seems like this girl has been straight with you in showing you who (and what) she is. But for some inexplicable reason, you want to keep calling her your girlfriend. That's just sad. What is wrong with you? |
QueenUtum:I see. Well, you seem alright - like a genuinely nice person (judging by your interaction on your other thread). But you also seem to be making the fact that you're a mulatto the centre piece. And if you want to be focused on your "difference", you cannot be upset that people would treat you differently (like an outsider). For instance, in that thread, the matter of your boyfriend's desire to bleach his skin could have been discussed without the knowledge of your own heritage. I know you only meant to put things in context. But the fact that you think that piece of information might be necessary to the discussion, may imply that you consider your light skin to have influenced his decision, or have some relevance to it. I cannot imagine why else you might bring that up. Maybe you think that his insecurities are heightened because he's dating a light skinned girl - you. And if you believe that he could feel inferior because he's in that situation, then you must be feeling superior. These are little things that happen when we aren't paying attention, and people pick up on them. So, when you tell him how much you like his dark skin, it may seem to him like you're just being nice and patronizing. If you hadn't mentioned the fact that you are a mulatto before saying that a good number of Nigerians were obsessed with lighter skin, you might not have gotten the reaction you got from some of the females on that thread (because, who doesn't know that lighter skin is more marketable in this country?). What some of them might have been reacting to is the fact that you're presenting yourself to be something special (Intentionally or not. Check it na). Lol, it's a "pretty girl syndrome" and it's sometimes hard to cure. Notwithstanding, I think you're a nice person and that you have no ill-intentions. People will eventually see that. So visit again sometime, maybe spend more than a month, and give Nigerian women the chance to get to know you better. In return, you'll find that we bear you no ill. |
If you're only looking to make friends, and since you already found some Nigerian women to be "lovely and very friendly" (towards you), you probably should take your pick from that lot. They might even be more than you need. Not everyone is going to like you; that's just life. Human beings have a sixth sense for BS. When you are as polite and friendly as "you can be", it might not be cutting it for some people; or maybe you end up seeming very patronizing. Ask yourself how you truly feel about Nigerian women, and know that sometimes your true feelings cannot be concealed by politeness. People sense it. If you've got "airs" or if you're even mildly condescending, we see it. And most home-grown Nigerian women typically give it to you straight, so they aren't likely to indulge you: who you be! You know that women are generally less likely to deal with a fellow woman's sense of entitlement than men are. But we still have those who will be as friendly and polite as they can be in spite of everything. So, that should suit your purpose. I'm sorry if you've assumed that you're getting this reaction because of the color of your skin (or Non-Nigerianness). Nigerian women aren't racist like that. And there are a lot of "oyinbo" ladies in Nigeria, who are allowed to blend in with the crowd without suffering a second glance. And here, there are people from different cultures who we even (wrongly) assume to be Nigerian because they just flow like that. This might just be about you, specifically. If you didn't grow up around black people, you might be uncomfortable around blacks. It might not even come from a place of malice and you may not even be aware of it. But it still shines through when you either show it, or try too hard to conceal it. However, the longer you're immersed in the situation, the better it suits you. So, give it time. But then again, there are also Nigerian women who are given a hard time by Nigerian women. So..... ![]() |
bignoisemaker:Thank you ![]() |
bignoisemaker: How are you doing, dear? |
What's the point of the second post? After making the assertions in the first post like you know what you're talking about, you come with that advise (or is it a plea) in the second post. It contradicts number 9; unless you're saying that a man mustn't be loved all the time (in a relationship). You complain about a hot day; just stay in the shade or get some sun-screen. You cannot ask the sun to stop shining, can you? |
MhizzAJ:Lol! The bolded is especially apt (and funny). You addressed the curious "we". |
Hmmm......igbo kwenu! Since the reason they cited was igbo culture and tradition, I hope the prayers she was stopped from saying were to Amadioha and not the white man's god. |
DrinkLimca:Before quoting a comment, please, be decent enough to read it first. Then try to understand it. You have all the time in the world; there's no rush. If you had done these things, you would have realized that insecurity and low self-esteem aren't things that I have denied. And, therefore, your comment on mine was needless. Going forward, you should probably let the length of a comment discourage you from taking it on. No be by force. |
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I don't understand why some guys will come here to criticize this thread.............just fvck off already! What's the issue? How does this empower black women? Why is that YOUR issue? You are not a black woman, and in a feedback section, your opinion wouldn't count in vetting if this thread met the OP's objective or not. It is black women (the target audience) who would have to check the boxes: empowered/not empowered. Not you. But you still want to come here to regulate how a woman should or should not be affected by this thread. You say: if women find this thread empowering, then they must be having serious self esteem issues; and since nobody wants to be seen to be having serious self esteem issues, we should now deny the fact that we find this thread empowering. But this is about self-esteem. Obviously. And the original post states it. So what is your problem? What, we shouldn't have them? In a world so obviously obsessed with beauty, where Hollywood, pageants and Caucasian Barbie dolls have defined what is to be considered beautiful and what isn't; you want to claim that the black woman's self esteem issues over her looks are unfounded. A lot of us have them; but we are overcoming them. We know that there are several ways to be beautiful. Seeing black women flaunt their skin like it is an element of beauty instead of something dirty to be ashamed of (like they're beautiful because of it, and not in spite of it) is empowering for black women who feel aesthetically inferior because of their complexion. You cannot imagine the effect that Alek Wek has had on the way some black African girls perceive their beauty. And of course, Naomi, Oluchi and all those beautifully darker skinned models. Winnie Harlow is a model with vitiligo. Seeing her success in the world of beauty, (I imagine) should be an encouragement to girls who feel ugly because of their patterned complexion. Would you be telling those girls not to feel empowered when one of theirs has found her path to such self-confidence? Beauty is diverse. And to those guys nagging girls to put their pictures up (since charity begins at home), excuse me? Did you make your case for the unattractiveness of Nigerian women by putting up the pictures of your ugly mothers and sisters? Abeg, leave people alone joor. This isn't a thread to prove NL girls are beautiful. Nobody is here to impress you. This thread shows how beautiful black is or can be. We know black women are more than just beautiful, but this thread isn't about all the other awesomeness (story for another day). Stay on the issue and stop trying to get a girl's attention by negging her. We see through you. |
Beauty is subjective. A lot of Nigerian men do not appreciate the beauty of Nigerian women . Clearly, the Op has made his case in favour of that point. There's a struggle here to become a "poor man's oyinbo": bleached skin, weaves, and all. Just to cater to those yellow-bone-obsessed men. But else where, Nigerian beauties are placed on a pedestal and adored. Call it the power of the exotic, or jungle fever, or whatever; It's ironic that we can dare to be our blackest and truest African selves - skin, and kinky hair with a smile - when we aren't even home. But that's life: not all cultures are confident of their value unless another appreciates it. It's a complex. Nigerian women are beautiful You just don't have the eyes to see it.
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greiboy:Wish you same, sweets........ |
greiboy:Lol. Okay. That's valid, in my opinion. |
How much older than me are you, anyway? How many years older than me are you, anyway? |
greiboy: ![]() SSG, you're always determined to disagree with me. But here, in this case........I don't see why you would. 1. When you say men demand sex, and I say that's what they value from a woman's repertoire; I don't see the disagreement. You have to value something to want it and then demand it. 2. What reason did I cite for the aspiration for independence by some women? To have social value whether they have a man or not (last paragraph)? The number is staggering, actually. Enough to constitute a movement. 3. I did not say men "like" sex more than women. I thought my junk food analogy was apt . |
donstan18: Lol. Yes, I think the bolded can be said. It's definitely two sides of a coin. Well, you said any gender can offer sex, which I MIGHT or MAY NOT agree with you, because I personally think no gender offers sex, because it takes to gender mingling to have sex.I understand. I only meant that in the sense that people can decide what they're wiling to "give" in a relationship even before any requests are made from the other person. People have the right and sometimes the tendency to hold back on things they have the capacity to give for reasons best known to them. For it to happen, there are two offers and two acceptances; one active, one passive (whenever a person initiates it). You've got to be ready to give it in order to receive it. It's like the traditional Protestant wedding vow where both parties pledge to accept each other and offer themselves to one another at the same time. And for it not to happen, there are either no offers, or one offer and one rejection. |
donstan18:Lol. I'm okay, sweetie. Thanks for asking. |
donstan18:Hey, friend .............I didn't want to disappoint you with two lines. I've been kinda busy. How you dey? |




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