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Rapahel1116:
Na absolute shit u yan like dis oh bros....have u wat he'd messi b4....?messi is d greatest dribbler ever....Nd wat surprises me d most is DAT he's been doing it for a lon long time....who told u Cruyff wasn't a dribbler? Wat was his name again....THE DUTCH MAGICIAN.....ND TO imagine u comparing van basten to henry....u must b in drugs....vam basten stopped his football becos of too many injuries....he retired at 28 after winning d golden ball 3times ...Nd u de here de compare am with totti...no mk me vex dis Sunday sir....if not for injuries self basten for win more Dan 3 den....na him u de compare with totti?mtchew

The guy you quoted knows absolutely nothing about football. He is just a typical blind fan making comments on topics they no very little about.

Sanchase:
Messi is a good player, he dribbles and scores. He motivates his team mates with his presence in a game. He has played in Barcelona all his life.

Ronaldo is not just a player, he is a champion. He came to Manchester United and dropped a dynamite winning record, just when we thought he has attained his apex, he challenged himself more and left for Real Madrid.

The dynamite he drops at real Madrid every year will be talked about in decades to come.

So look at the statistics before deciding who is really more talented.

Which dynamite winning record? You guys make it sound like United was a small team.. Even without Ronaldo, they have always been a force to reckon with in English football, up until recent years.. So, what do u have to say about a certain Suarez that scored more goals in his last season at Liverpool even with a weaker teammates?

LordAdam16:
You are a LM10 fan, don't make absurd claims.

Messi is not better than Ronaldo. And I'm sick of the talent card or that he is more fun to watch.

All Messi does is glue the ball to his feet and run past players. That's all he does.

And if you want to talk about if that is the most entertaining thing in football. Then you didn't watch Ronaldinho play.

What Ronaldinho, Zizinho, Garrincha did with the ball, Pele, Maradona, and Messi can't fathom. Those people made football an art form.

Messi went to Barca at age 13 and trained at La Masia for at least 7 hours per day for 5 years before his debut. The only thing he has above Xavi and Iniesta is dribbling and goal scoring. In creativity, vision, passing, he is not at the same level as those two unsung heroes.

And that brings me to my main point, the game of football rewards goal scorers and achievers. That's how we measure the best players. Add a bit of skill, dribbling, or flair, and there's a straight ticket to the hall of fame.

If Messi wasn't scoring goals he wouldn't win a Ballon D'or. Ditto for Ronaldo.

Look at Barcelona's squad of 2009-2013? Replace Messi with any world class player from Neymar to Hazard to Dybala and they'd win the exact same number of trophies and Ballon D'ors that Messi won. If that same world class player played for Barcelona from 13 years of age, it'd be just as easy for the player.

In fact, this is the first time you'd be hearing this, but Barcelona didn't need Messi in that time period to win trophies. The proof is in the fact that between 2008 and 2013, the Spanish National Team was without doubt the best team in the world and won every tournament they participated in. Messi was not in that team, but the core of the team was Barcelona.

On the flip side, look at Ronaldo. When he was younger he was great at showboating but wasn't as clinical as he is now. Ronaldo started winning Ballon D'ors when he started achieving and he played in teams (sporting lisbon, manchester united, and real madrid) that were about critical, ruthless finishing than beautiful possession football and he adapted his game appropriately. Messi on the other hand played in a team that is about entertaining, possession football and that became his identity.

Ronaldo does not have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because that is unnecessary in Madrid's team. In fact from Man U, Sir Alex had already weaned him of less flair and made him concentrate more on his clinical ability. Messi does not even have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because the entire Barcelona team can pass a ball into the net. Spain won games and tournaments without a player running past multiple players to score or lay a pass.

But when you talk about Ronaldo's clinical ability, there is no word to describe it. The timing of his runs, positioning, goal scoring technique is all down to intelligence and being a smarter player overall. He knows he doesn't have to showboat, he has passed that stage. All his showboating won him 1 Ballon D'or and 1 champions league. His clinical ability and goal scoring got him 3 Ballon D'or's, 3 champions league, 1 Euro cup, and 5 consecutive UEFA golden boots. If you are Ronaldo, what would you do then, more showboating, or just honing your clinical ability and becoming the best finisher in the history of the sport?

There's Isco, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro to do all the passing, all he has to do is be part of the ruthless attack and finish where necessary or make an assist. Even when Barcelona was at their top form, he was outscoring Messi consistently scoring 50 goals per year since 2010, getting Real Madrid to the Semi Finals of the UEFA Champions league, and trailing Barcelona in the league. This was in a time of inconsistency in the Bernabeu (Perez sold Ozil and Di Maria in their prime) and this was without the Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets midfield (the best midfield post-2000) that Messi had.

Just look at the difference. Messi is out there running past Alavez players in a Copa Del Rey final, while Ronaldo is making himself available to make clinical finishes against the best defense of the season. Allegri said that even if they gave Barcelona an extra hour, they still wouldn't have found the back of the net. Ronaldo found it in 20 minutes. Found a second 40 minutes later. Look at his second goal yesterday. Modric did not even look before crossing the ball into the area, but Ronaldo anticipated the run and positioned himself to rattle the mighty BBC defense and slot past the goalkeeper legend, something the entire MSN couldn't do in 120 minutes.

Give me that versus Messi's run and I'll choose Ronaldo's clinical ability everyday.

As at 2012 in the peak of Messi's career on the back of an unbelievable Barcelona team, he had 4 Ballon D'ors to Ronaldo's 1. 3 Champions league to Ronaldo's 1. In 2012, the jury was out already that Messi was miles ahead because despite Ronaldo becoming an accomplished goal scorer and skillful player, he just wasn't getting the results that Messi got.

Fast forward 5 years and Ronaldo has won 3 of the last 4 champion's leagues, and is set to win 4 of the last 5 Ballon D'Ors, and is the top UEFA goal scorer for each of the last 5 years. This is at a time of his career when he should be declining.

The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is evident in this year's UEFA goal tally. Messi had 11 versus Ronaldo's 2 before the knockout stages. Yet Ronaldo outscored Messi. Give me that versus running past players, and I'd choose the former everyday. That's what makes Ronaldo the better player. He doesn't have a peak. He keeps outdoing himself because he doesn't have a competition.

Without Suarez and Xavi, Messi wouldn't have had the treble in '15. And since then it has been downhill for him and his team. And the future is even more bleak for him going forward as Iniesta withers off. I wouldn't write him off, but as long as Ronaldo keeps breaking records and redefining what it means to be the greatest player to have ever played the game, the accolades would keep coming his way.

Messi plays amazing football, but in modern football love goes to the top achievers and goal scorers. After all, goals earn points. Most of the love Messi gets right now is because of what he achieved in 2009-2013. All of the love Ronaldo gets right now is because of what he keeps achieving since 2007.

Notice how I did not even talk about international duty? Or about Ronaldo adapting and achieving phenomenal results in two different leagues?

So, as I said, you are an LM10 fan. Every CR7 fan knows why CR7 is better than Messi. That's the passage of rites to becoming a CR7 fan.

-Lord

All this epistle simply don't align with reality.. You made baseless claims, and i doubt you even watch both of them play. Messi has had to drop to the midfield to suit Neymar and Suarez.. Since Xavi left, Messi has been Barca's backbone, both in assisting and scoring goals.. Ronaldo has always been a goal scorer. Yet Messi has had to take two responsibilities, and still battle with him in the number of goals scored each season. Ronaldo has even lost the pichichi two times in a row now even with the classy midfielders and full backs, in his team. Messi scored more than Ronaldo in all competition this season, even with a weaker midfield. So what exactly is your point?

nurshah:
Your last paragraph is just it... Cr7 is generous and relatable .messi isn't approachable ...cr7 can stop andctalk to you but messi is too tight ..

Mess is reclusive. He is shy. We all have our individual qualities bro.

tolexy123:
Those are unnecessary rants and off-point complaints.

Back to ur complaints btw, before the likes of suarez and neymar came to barca, messi has been the only outstanding and consistent player and also a prolific finisher by the way and the glory was all about him and him alone but with the intoduction/advent of neymar and suarez who are exceptionally good too with world best potentials, the competition became so stiff and tight that the only goals messi do score then are now shared between the trio (messi, Suarez and neymar).

But real madrid on the other hand has only ronaldo and the chances and luck messi sees back then as the only prolific striker and scorer is what he is now enjoying.

Hence, my comment about ronaldo.

Remark: until messi leaves barca or la liga, am afraid the world best might never come to him again.

God Bless!

Lol.. You are very funny o. But the same Messi has consistently been Barça's highest goal scorer, since both Suarez and Neymar have been around.

kpaminose:
How exactly is Messi more talented? Messi plays like he's fighting and football is a big deal. Ronaldo plays like he's doing nothing while achieving much. What is talent? Talent is the natural ability to do something well and efficiently without putting much efforts and work.

This is the most hilarious comments on this thread..Messi plays like he is fighting, lol.. Dude u need to update your sixth sense when you are watching football. Jeez!

ikorodureporta:
Dnt mind Messi. He's unprofessional. If u'r that good, u shld be featuring in all leagues worldwide. If na me be fifa, i no go consider am for world's best.....

This sentiment makes no sense. And is an insult to Messi's personality. Players don't just move. They move when they have reasons to do so.. Messi in his right senses, won't leave Barca for any other team except Real Madrid and that itself is very very impossible. Do you think Ronaldo would have left Real Madrid for Manchester Utd if he had started in Madrid? Very very unlikely. Players move to bigger sides, not smaller ones.

gameboyo:
But same juventus humbled barca

And the same Messi's barca humbled Madrid at their home

Jflex07:
But juventus troubled Barça. Messi couldn't score even a single goal against juve whereas Christiano would have ended with a hatrick

Lol. U don't use that analogy bro.. On a normal day, Juve cant stop Messi. We all watched the 2014 final naw

MONITZ:
I am not a fan of Messi bt truth has to be told and it is: "Messi is a mire talented player than Ronaldo because he makes football so easy that u think he is from a different planet,and moreover Ronaldo saw Messi as a rival and had to work extra-hard to arrive and be on the same level with him.

I don't think Messi works as hard as Ronaldo to achieve all he does because it's innate.. And Messi appears to slowing down while Ronaldo is now firing on all cylinders and with no signs of slowing down soon.

Wtf do you mean by slowing down? Messi has continued to mature over the years. This year, he was simply unfortunate to have been in a Barca side that had a stupid coach. If not for Messi, barca would have lost the trophy by far more than 3 points. Not only that, he had the highest number of goals in Europe.

That's Andalusian flag now.. Abi Nigerians no recognize our flag again ni?

Sensual:
Fvck off dumbass.
It's my opinion, if you don't agree with it, move the fvck on and stop acting like a useless human being.
Gosh, what is wrong with people

Sorry dear but this is a public forum, u don't feed us with B. S. and expect us to swallow it hook, line and sinker. Is either you keep your BC up nd let intelligent people comments or say B. S and expect Clap back.

Sensual:
This should be the most senseless article I've read since I was born

Nigerians, we are finished
We don enter one chance

Please what's the name of the weed this dunce is taking? It should be given an award.

U make comments without an iota reasoning. Where in the article did he err? If this is the most senseless article you have ever read, then we need to question your educational background.

omohayek:
I'm asking you for evidence to support your assertion. All I see here is an empty claim made in support of tribalism and intellectual laziness. If these wonderfully qualified people are everywhere to be found, why is there only one Okonjo-Iweala? Why has not a single one of these "capable hands" ever made it to the Presidency? Answer my question rather than making ridiculous claims about my emotional state.

The bottom line is that you want your claim to be true so you don't have to weigh candidates on their programs and qualifications, rather than their tribe and religion. Don't just make a claim without evidence, go ahead and show us why such lazy thinking should work any better this time round than it has in the past.

What is this one saying? Who told u there is only one Okonjo-Iweala? Even with all her qualifications, what did she achieve when she was a minister? Massive looting? Intelligence like crime abound in every tribe.. See, except you are daft, or you are just being intentionally ignorant, you will know that every tribe in Nigeria has brilliant and capable hands. Sanusi, Iweala, Prof Barth Nnanji, Akinwunmi Adesina, Jelani Aliyu, have proven themselves highly when given chance. Go to World Bank, OPEC, UN and see the number of Nigerians that are running things. Not to even make mention of several Nigerians excelling in and out of the country. Who knew Iweala before she became a minister? I actually thought u were reasonable.

omohayek:
And where's the proof of these "capable hands from each region" that you're talking about? If they're so easy to find, why has Nigeria been left in the dust by the countries I mentioned over the last 57 years?

Add intellectual laziness to the tribalism that afflicts all too many Nigerians. Rather than make the effort to understand what I've written, you dismiss it out of hand as an "epistle", while making fact-free claims about "capable hands from each region", as if your simply saying something makes it true.

Lol.. You are becoming emotional rather than logical now. So, are you trying to dispute the fact that all the regions in Nigeria have capable hands?

omohayek:
I know this sort of thinking is beyond most Nigerians, but if it was up to me, the question wouldn't be whether the successor to Okonjo Iweala was from the East, but whether the person was

(1) As qualified as Okonjo Iweala in terms of understanding economics, and
(2) Interested in adopting policies that would encourage broad-based economic growth, rather than simply favoring a very small proportion of his or her "kinsmen".

Given the choice between someone like that from the East, and an unqualified, nepotistic candidate from another region, then I at least would support the Easterner in this case, even if it would mean 12 successive years of Eastern rule. At the end of the day, real economic growth, based on non-oil exports - the sort of growth that leads to millions of high-paying jobs in manufacturing, technology, etc. - is what really matters, not being able to beat one's chest about a President's origins, while hungry and living in a hovel with no electricity or running water.

My calculation is simple: the difference between a highly qualified candidate and a poor one can mean a variation of up to 10% in the economy's annual growth rate. Compound that over just 4 years and you're talking about incomes being 45% higher under one President than another. Extend that gap to 30 years and you get the difference between a middle-income country like Thailand or Malaysia, or a stagnant hell-hole like Nigeria! How many of the champions of "na our turn" politics wouldn't willingly move to those Asian countries, even at the cost of becoming racial minorities with no influence at all in politics? Yet when it's our own country at stake we willing throw away our futures in the name of meaningless "tribal" pride that has never done anything meaningful for the average person on the street, regardless of their origins.

All this epistle still don't answer my question. Nigeria is too diversed to be run like that. We have capable hands from each region.

And what happened to clearing those bushes

Who gave this one the right to speak for the Yoruba nation. Obviously, he is still suffering from the aftermath of his paymaster's defeat in 2015. .

krendo:
Excellent argument, trouble is your views are 2 years late!

Why did you not make this argument when Buhari was preferred over Jonathan by the South West?

Stop making it sound like GEJ was a better candidate. It was a choice we had to made, given the level of corruption and ineptitude perpetrated under him. With the level of excesses we had under GEJ, we should have recorded the most noteworthy progress in our entire national history. He didn't make sense when we had excess, how much difference would he have made when things went down

omohayek:
My thoughts exactly. Nearly every contributor to this thread, from the OP onward, seems to have been so heavily afflicted with tribalism as to be utterly incapable of logical thinking. Of what use is a President coming from any particular region if the person doesn't know what he's doing? How has Buhari made life better for the average person in his own native NW region? Is tribalistic pride in a President's ethnicity going to put food on anybody's table, give them better roads, provide them with decent and affordable hospitals, or put their children in better schools?

Instead of demanding candidates who advocate sensible policies that will lead to faster economic growth and higher FDI, so many cretins are on here going on about how it's the turn of one region or another, when what they're really talking about is how politicians from particular regions are using the same old appeals to tribalism to jostle for their chance to steal from the government till: it's simply nonsense to say "the north", "the SW" or "the SE" wants something or other, when it's actually small coteries of politicians from such regions who are doing the wanting. Nigeria has had 56 years of such elite manipulations, with virtually no economic development to show for it, but the very victims of such mismanagement are on here clamoring for more of the same!

I've said it before, but the Nigerian masses have no one else to blame for their predicament but themselves, for getting the abysmal levels of "leadership" they deserve for their idiotic tribalism.

Okay, consider this example: Let's say we go for a credible and detribalized Nigerian like Okonjo Iweala in 2019 and she gets elected. Then after 8 years, another credible candidate rise from the East, are we also going to vote for him/her solely based on credibility?? See, the truth is ONE NIGERIA is a fluke without the zoning policy. I hate it, but it can't just be avoided.

ephi321:
This is how Nigerians keep focusing on region vis-a-vis presidency. No mention of qualification or what the candidates would bring to the table.

I can see we won't be making much progress anytime soon.

You don't get! Nigeria is vast too diversed for regional politics not to come into play. At least each region has capable hands. It is left for us to decide which candidate get our votes

Sensual:
Jonathan was a mere VP when he defeated buhari.
Buhari has nothing good to show when it comes to leadership. He was a traitor and a dictator, and with the way things are going under his leadership now, Majority of Nigerians will rather vote a madman as president than the dullard.
Politics is not just all about who are mates and whatnot, it's also about who connects with the people the most, and that's what osinbajo has started doing. Interacting with market women at Garki, going to calabar, administering projects etc... he is paying way for his political future already, that's if he wants to run.

People are loving him to the detriment of the cabal.
So stay there and be comparing mates while osinbajo becomes your next president.
This was exactly how Buhari grabbed the masses. Oh the irony

Your knowledge of politics is laughable. GEJ had a considerable support from the North and South West to win the 2011 election. Buhari was an ANPP candidate then. His party never had a chance in Yorubaland, so the votes that would have gone his way was shared between Ribadu (ACN) and GEJ (PDP). His Alliance with ACN gave him his 2015 triumph. Osinbajo doesn't stand a chance. In fact, not even against Nuhu Ribadu. And who told you majority of Nigerians hate Buhari? . I am not in support of him re-running tho.

Sensual:
Then maybe a TIV man should come and rule us.

You are being emotionally biased unnecessarily. He never mentioned a specific individual, he said anyone from the North. And stop trying to pick on the North, for a crime we are all guilty of in Nigeria. Northern Nigeria is dominated by Muslims, same as the eastern part is dominated by Xtians.. So, according to your analogy, will the South/ South Eastern ever support an Igbo Muslim presidency. Let's be fair in our sentiments.

SuperS1Panther:
He came to Power because a Yoruba man that has built bridges over the years won an election which was annulled.

The sustained agitation for correction of that VISIBLE injustice led to OBJ's presidency. The agitation for upholding of June 12 was the work.

Actually, OBJ's 1999 triumph was a consolation for the Abiola's saga.

Gaddafithe2nd:
Have said it before, 80% of Nigerian celebs are fraudsters and drug carriers. Even the ones that made it in music aren't left out. Some of them even hail fraudsters in their songs, sing about how they wire money. One actress even featured one fraudster in her new movie.
It is shame for people that look up to them.

I was really disappointed when i heard 9ice's Living Things song. Very disappointing to hear a whole 9ice praising dem top scammers openly

ominilongest:
Una sabi gossip no be small. Anyways, god help him, nothing wrong to be a hustler, this life is not for chicken hearted.

Lol.. So scamming na also hustle abi? Nigerians and 'get rich anyhow mentality'

Proudlyngwa:
The question might not be testing your maths skill, rather your logic skills.

Perhaps 81. Four ones, four twos, four threes.

What's your own definition of hits and trash? It is not a hit if it doesn't sell or top chart. And i seriously doubt that. You don't judge Olamide's music by your taste of music. Dude has a specific market, nd doesn't seem intersted in appealing to all music fans. Even 2face gets people wey no like his type of music.

It's 36 sir!

mikkyangel:
Note 3 should be available next week....hit me up ., I will give u a number to call ending in 9707

What about Note 4?

Pls, is it worth upgrading to the 4gig/64gb version? will the expanded RAM not affect the awesome battery life?

Disgusting post. What happened to your own very life? Why take pills on top another person headache