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You sure say this one no dey Nigeria already ? This one wey guys dey down guys and chicks for warri,Lagos,PH and other areas emptying their accounts and every other thing they can empty ! And Op say the drug never leave columbia !

gbosaa: I have a lot of respect for TB Joshua,not just because of of what i watch him do on youtube but because of his humility,philanthropy and generation of revenue for Nigeria but that post above is ambigous,it has no bearing whatsoever to that helicopter tragedy...

Those guys werent coming back from conference but from some funeral at Bayelsa.
I doubt if there were up to 4 politicians involved,
How is it even possible for so called politicians to be travelling individually assuming they were to be going on some convention,conference or any sort of meeting..imagine if that prophecy were to be heeded and there was a PDP somewhere...meaning GEJ and his entourage mustnt travel in same plane or OBJ must avoid travelling with others in other to avert the tragedy..it just doesnt make sense...

I remember the Champions league prophecy/prediction in which a bald headed man would score a goal assisted by a black player..some people here swore they watched Emmanuel tv at that time and heard him say those...they all dissappeared after the match.none came to defend it..

Why do we always see these sort of post whenever something happens?
Pls should someone post all the prophecies/predictions here for us all to see and not after something bad happens

Here on naira land,all is been criticised to the detriment of their soul !
if you are a roman catholic,you do not know God or follow HIS teachings !
If u are a Pentecostal,u are money conscious and a worshipper of pastor !
If you are a pastor whether humble or outspoken u will be criticized
If u use jet as pastor,u don hear am cos u will be seen as a pastorpreneur !
If u walk and dnt drive or fly,u are re...tar..den pauper who does not know God!
If you are a muslim,ur religion is piss and sh***t
If you pray and don't see visions concerning Nigeria and on coming calamity,u are fake !
If u see vision may be like T.B Joshua,u are a scamer or evil man !
If u dnt help the needy as Nigerians want to see,u are not for christ and will definitely end up in hell !
If you help the needy or give scholarships,it is the money u stole from the people that u are giving back !
Atheists,pagans and some others who might be following juju or voodo,we dnt even want to see them or hear them speak !
What should we do to be accepted by men of this world if we really care ?
God help us

anoder one to criticise the man of God !
This time Goodluck Jonathan,the man most ppl hate got involved !
God help us all !

plappville: And you strongly believe thier riches is from God? I do not care where thier riches come from, the bible speaks agains accumulating riches on the last days, and we see today how figures who claim to be representing Christ are fulfilling these Scriptures. They are most concern on material things than the true gospel
which is the comming Kingdom of God. I wonder how they manage thier all business with the gospel at same time.

A pastor that has a Car, a house, a family will He not be considered as living a confortable life?
Must a Pastor buy 4 jets have several universities, primary and nursery schools etc etc before He can be know as Gods chosen Pastor?
I believe some of them fits James chapter 5. Some are woof in sheep clothe, so they are evil rich men. What do you think about verse 4?

Is it not both rich and poor that pay tithes they profits from? are these Pastors today not suposed to follow the below scriptures? are they example of suffering and affliction today? NO, they all have bodyguards, the spiritual protection is no longer effective, so they hold on to the physical, why?

james 5: 10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

The verse speaks in general, weather some evil men who hid in the name of God or some evil men who do not pretend.
It qualifies evil rich Men, and only God knows these evil rich men.

God never said we should live a miserable life ! He only asked us to endure long suffering for the kingdom sake(If u are persecuted for the sake of the kingdom)durring persecution.He admonished us to help the needy ! How do we help the needy if we dnt have at all to give to them ? And besides,no matter how we try to help the needy,we can't help all becos we are not CHRIST ! Christ said the poor can not seize in our midst !
Concerning accumulation of wealth for the last days according to James 5,the bible was talking about the 'evil rich peaopl' Now wether men of God are among the evil rich pple,i dnt know but only God knows.If they think they are deceiving us,God knows and only God can expose them if HE wants.
Greed will most definitely take anyman to hell !It was not greed in the area of wealth that caused the fall of Solomon.Solomon left God for other gods.He no longer recognized the source(GOD)of his wealth and riches. Christ told us that the greedy fellow feels that l[b]ife consists in the abundance of his possession[/b] ! That is the stand of this rich fool ! Should we now say becos Dangote has the below under his group and for that reason he is greedy ?:
Cement - Manufacturing / Importing, Packing & Distribution
Sugar - Manufacturing & Refining, Packing and Distribution
Salt - Refining, Packing and Distribution
Flour & Semolina - Milling, Packing and Distribution
Pasta - Manufacturing and Distribution
Noodles - Manufacturing and Distribution
Poly Products - Manufacturing
Logistics - Port Management
Logistics - Haulage
Real Estate
Dangote Foundation
If he Dangote possesses all the above without God,then he is a fool according to the bible. Becos the bible says; ''a fool conceives in his heart that there is no God''.
See below story of another evil rich man.The bible calls him a rich fool becos he is ''wealthy'' and poor towards the knowledge of God!:
Proverbs 12:16-21''And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’
“Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’
“But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’
Verse 21[b]''This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”[/b]
Verse 21 specifically said that is the case of anyman who is 'rich' but does not know God ! Whether man of God or man of man,wether a fool or the wise.Wether a believer or an un believer.Wether a christian or a muslim. Wether a pentecostal or a roman cotholic.wether an apostolic or and anglican.
This is the stand of the bible regarding wealth. Rich pple go to heaven and poor pple also go to heaven.The healthy can be in heaven likewise the un healthy.
The bible say that my people perish for lack of knowlege. Not the knowledge of man or the world but the knowledge of heaven as given by God.
God bless us all

ogaju007: What about those that don't believe? Lol what a shame lol

May God have mercy on them !
God help us all !

Sweetlemon: Yes I experienced the traffic because I went to the camp.
And do you know what the guy said there?
"Nigerians please pray for me. I backslided after the elections but I'v repented"
And some mumu people in the congregation actually stood up excitedly to clap for him. Nigerians are the most naïve, gullible fellows on earth. Serious!

What did you go to camp to do ? According to u,Jonathan said ''pray for me.I backslided after election but i have repented'' Did you go there to seek the face of God and ask for forgiveness for ur sins,ask for his mercies and grace upon ur life to do greater things here on earth and FINALLY BE WITH THE FATHER in HEAVEN or did you go to camp to listen to Jonathan and according to you,'SOM EMUMU PEOPLE IN THE CONGREGATION WHO STOOD UP EXCITEDLD TO CLAP FOR JONATHAN ?
We know that Nigeria is in a mess but let us as christians not to be part of the mess or contribute to the mess of this country.
Work out ur own salvation with fear and trembling !
We all know our leaders are not trying at all but let us continue to pray for them and our country Nigeria !
See below what the word of God said that we should do to our enemies in case we all today see our leaders as our enemies becos they are corrupt, wicked and care less of our plight !
Proverb 25:21-23''
''If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat;
if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head,
and the Lord will reward you.
As a north wind brings rain,
so a sly tongue(angry tongue,back biting tongue,) brings angry looks.''
Let us all continue to be good,pray for the country and leaders and rebuke them SUBTLY and this burning coals that will be heaped on them,might come in form of guilty conscience,troubles of the heart, restlessness and before you know it,there will be changes from them or they will give way for the LORD'S CHOSEN to come into power !
Pls note: We have been crying,wailing,shouting and doing all sorts of things yet they hear but form not hearing. Why not we try to approach the issue the godly way and see what will happen ! Some might say that the Tunisians,Egyptians,Libyians,Syrians and some others that you know did not do it the godly ways but their own ways and I will show you countries that have NEVER known peace since they did it their own way !
@SWEET LEMON,if i offended u by the questions i asked you pls forgive me ! I dnt mean to hurt you !
God bless us

plappville: So it is God that instructed these flamboyant life style that is not different from that of the world? God will not tell them to accumulate materials on earth here, you are one of those liars in the name of the Lord. A note for you dear...

James 5:1-5: 1¶ Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
2     Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
3     Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
4     Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.
5     Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

Thanks for the quotation above BUT YOU SHOULD HAV ADDED VERSE 6:'' You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you''
This is the true word of GOD concerning those who think they have true riches without Jesus ! You can not have true wealth without God ! You can not make money thtough evil sources and expect to be in good stand with God.
In James 5 verse 1: The word of God says that 'Evil rich people' like that will weep and howl for the miseries that will come upon them !
In verse 2,it says they they have corrupted riches i.e,wealth not given to u by GOD,wealth gotten through usury means,wealth gotten by stealing maiming or wealth gotten without acknowledging the powers of God in providing wealth ! Ofcourse u can acknowledge God for ur wealth becos HE did not give the evil man those things he calls wealth and riches !When God said in Deutronomey 8:18'' But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers, as it is today''[/b]he was referring to his children and not unbelievers !Same verse 2 of James 5 said the garment of the evil 'rich man'has been eaten by morth !
In verse 3,it says the gold and silver of the 'evil rich man' is corroded,rusted or worthless(cankered)and the nature of the gold and silver i.e worthless,rusted,coroded or cankered shall it ur flesh as if it was fire that has eaten you up ! You have gathered treasure(fire) unto urself for the last days. That gold and silver that is currupted that the evil rich man has gathered in the name of tresure for the last day,is what will burn him like fire!
In verse 4, Look! The bible tells us that the wages that evil rich man failed to pay the workmen(labourers,employees who mowed your fields or worked in his company are crying out against the 'evil rich man'. The cries of the harvesters(workers,employees) have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty.God can always fight for us all if we feel cheated any where and any how. We can't fight God's fight ! Let us just go to him in prayers and see HIM fight the battle !
I love this verse 5 ! It says ''The evil rich man lived only to [b]'eat and drink', and to enjoy life ! But, by such a course, he is certainly preparing for perdition(SLAUGHTERER,DEATH,DOOMS DAY), as cattle were prepared to be killed by being stall-fed.Most times we feed our animals very very well just to prepare them for a good buy at the market place ! These are the cases of the man who is 'wealthy,rich'without God ! If some of these men of God today are doing their own things i.e making wealth without JESUS[/b]then, I AM SORRY FOR THEM ALSO becos they will end up like the evil rich man ! Job was the riches in the whole of the east yet was God's closest servant ! Abraham was the father of blessings and also a blessing unto others,he had all he wanted but a son and God still completed his blessings by giving him a son and he remained God's best friend ! Isaac was very very rich that he can sow in a year and reap everything he sowed in same year:
[b]''Isaac sowed seed in that land, and in that year he reaped a hundred times what was sown. The LORD blessed him,-Gen 26:12 Who said our God is not a great ? Who said our God can't bless one spiritually, physically and materially ? HE only want us to see HIM first then all other things can follow !
Now let us look at James 5:6 to show us clearly that the bible isn't condemning those that are wealthy and rich in christ but the so called wealthy and rich without christ !
James 5:6''You have condemned and murdered the one who is righteous, even though he did not rebel against you.
The above sentence seems to require that we should consider this as applying to the just or righteous in general, who were persecuted and murdered by those oppressive rich men; and their death was the consequence of their dragging them before the judgment seats, James 2:6, where, having no influence, and none to plead their cause, they were unjustly condemned and executed.
Now bringing it unto us here in Nigeria,if people at the helms of affairs i.e in our work place,homes,schools,churches and in government fail to give us what is rightful ours and instead pass negative and destructive judgement on us(killed us) just becos we can not resist them; may be we have got no power to do so, or may be becos of our godly principles but takes it patiently, quietly submits, and makes no opposition: or God does not resist them, as yet; BUT HE WILL DO IT SHORTLY !Let's continue to hope in God for HE alone is our fortress.But we will fall out of grace if we start to negatively resist those who presecute !
May God help us all !
God bless us

plappville: James 5:1-5: 1¶ Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
2     Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
3     Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
4     Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.
5     Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

Thanks for the quotation above BUT YOU SHOULD HAV ADDED VERSE 6:'' You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you''
This is the true word of GOD concerning those who think they have true riches without Jesus ! You can not have true wealth without God ! You can not make money thtough evil sources and expect to be in good stand with God.
In James 5 verse 1: The word of God says that 'Evil rich people' like that will weep and howl for the miseries that will come upon them !
In verse 2,it says they they have corrupted riches i.e,wealth not given to u by GOD,wealth gotten through usury means,wealth gotten by stealing maiming or wealth gotten without acknowledging the powers of God in providing wealth ! Ofcourse u can acknowledge God for ur wealth becos HE did not give the evil man those things he calls wealth and riches !When God said in Deutronomey 8:18'' [b]But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers, as it is today''[/b]he was referring to his children and not unbelievers !Same verse 2 of James 5 said the garment of the evil 'rich man'has been eaten by morth !
In verse 3,it says the gold and silver of the 'evil rich man' is corroded,rusted or worthless(cankered)and the nature of the gold and silver i.e worthless,rusted,coroded or cankered shall it ur flesh as if it was fire that has eaten you up ! You have gathered treasure(fire) unto urself for the last days. That gold and silver that is currupted that the evil rich man has gathered in the name of tresure for the last day,is what will burn him like fire!
In verse 4, Look! The bible tells us that the wages that evil rich man failed to pay the workmen(labourers,employees who mowed your fields or worked in his company are crying out against the 'evil rich man'. The cries of the harvesters(workers,employees) have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty.God can always fight for us all if we feel cheated any where and any how. We can't fight God's fight ! Let us just go to him in prayers and see HIM fight the battle !
I love this verse 5 ! It says ''The evil rich man lived only to 'eat and drink', and to enjoy life ! But, by such a course, he is certainly preparing for perdition(SLAUGHTERER,DEATH,DOOMS DAY), as cattle were prepared to be killed by being stall-fed.Most times we feed our animals very very well just to prepare them for a good buy at the market place ! These are the cases of the man who is 'wealthy,rich'without God ! If some of these men of God today are doing their own things i.e making wealth without JESUS[/b]then, I AM SORRY FOR THEM ALSO becos they will end up like the evil rich man ! Job was the riches in the whole of the east yet was God's closest servant ! Abraham was the father of blessings and also a blessing unto others,he had all he wanted but a son and God still completed his blessings by giving him a son and he remained God's best friend ! Isaac was very very rich that he can sow in a year and reap everything he sowed in same year:
[b]''Isaac sowed seed in that land, and in that year he reaped a hundred times what was sown. The LORD blessed him,-Gen 26:12 Who said our God is not a great ? Who said our God can't bless one spiritually, physically and materially ? HE only want us to see HIM first then all other things can follow !
Now let us look at James 5:6 to show us clearly that the bible isn't condemning those that are wealthy and rich in christ but the so called wealthy and rich without christ !
James 5:6''You have condemned and murdered the one who is righteous, even though he did not rebel against you.
The above sentence seems to require that we should consider this as applying to the just or righteous in general, who were persecuted and murdered by those oppressive rich men; and their death was the consequence of their dragging them before the judgment seats, James 2:6, where, having no influence, and none to plead their cause, they were unjustly condemned and executed.
Now bringing it unto us here in Nigeria,if people at the helms of affairs i.e in our work place,homes,schools,churches and in government fail to give us what is rightful ours and instead pass negative and destructive judgement on us(killed us) just becos we can not resist them; may be we have got no power to do so, or may be becos of our godly principles but takes it patiently, quietly submits, and makes no opposition: or God does not resist them, as yet; BUT HE WILL DO IT SHORTLY !Let's continue to hope in God for HE alone is our fortress.But we will fall out of grace if we start to negatively resist those who presecute !
May God help us all !
God bless us

DanielNoble: M.K.O I RESPECT YOU ALOT

Thanks for bin one of the very few who beleives in the true word of God ! God will do more for you,for me and all those that beleive !
God bless us

Kamsy10: This is the person you should be teaching the meaning of insult. Till today,catholic and anglican are the only churches in the villages while the rest are clustered in the cities for obvious reasons. If not for catholic church,some1 like me that grew in d village might not have been priviledged to hear the gospel in d first place.
I find it offensive when people try to insult the catholic church yet their churches commit worse attrocities.

Ok,i se where you are coming from ! it's all about CHURCH right ? We should not fight over 'church'. Inspite the fact that you see the roman catholic church as the best having 'provided for the needy' still it does not deter ppl from saying all sorts of negative things to the 'church'.The last time on NL here we saw pple abusing pst.TB Joshua wen we were told that he gave 26M as scholarship to sponsor some students education abroad and so many other good deeds we see coming from him and his church but still pple said it is evil money !They said all sorts of negative things concerning him(TB Joshua)and his church.No matter what you do,ppl will talk.You just have to make sure that u are in right standing with God.How can this be possible ? It is by following the word of God as enshrined in the bible and not the words of men. Let all men be liars and only God be truth ! The young man's quote you have up there isn't a christian comment !
My bin a pope or pastor does not guarantee my going to heaven becos we all have sinned and will forever remain imperfect until christ returns ! They call the roman catholic church names saying that they do not go by the biblical doctrines and today we have also seen them contradicting the word of God. Does that not go a long way to show you that none is perfect.Pls dnt join them to throw back stones. Remember what christ said;'' But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you, and persecute you;Mathew 5:44.
Concerning the true church,we will all know wen we get to heaven ! Church isn't the building but the believers there in ! Christ wiil hand pick from all the churches.''And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.''John 11:52
In as much as HE desires all to be with HIM in paradise,not all will make it !
Mathew 7:13 shows us that so many will end up in hell ! See below:
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.''
My broda,let u and I work out [b]our own[/b]salvation !
God help us

[quote author=pastor prosper ]u are a poverty stricken animal.[/quote]Pls dnt call pple poverty stricken animal if u are a christian !
God pls help us all !

rusher14: You sure have mastered the art of circumlocution.
Some things are straightforward but I guess even you cannot account for a lack of conscience.

By the special grace of GOD i have bin able to answer most of ur questions if not all using the word of God which is the only book given to christians for reproof,correction and admonition ! I dnt see how i have dodged any of ur questions or used big words to confuse you but yet you say i have ''mastered the art of circumlocution''.
Anyways, i know for sure that to convince in christianity isn't a theological debate or argument but the preaching of the word which goes forth and when heeded to,the holy spirit takes over from there !
Nothing happens in our lives unless we heed first to the word !
God bless us

rusher14: Are such words as: prudence, conservationism, charity, circumspection, thrift etc. missing from you and these men of the robes vocabulary?
Is there not a single purchase or financial outlay that would prick your hearts?
Are you hellbent on making sure you show the world the rewards of the brigandage that is now the life of the clergy?

Who are my to judge an un-believer or the clergy ?
Let God judge us all !
God bless us

rusher14: But a lady who dresses like a prostitute should not be expected to be treated much differently.
If it quacks like a duck...
If Nigeria was a country in which charity was seen and not only heard perhaps one would be tempted to think it is for good reasons.
However, this is far from the case and so you can try supporting these workers of iniquity as much as you like but there are a few of us who can discern (thank God for this ability) and would not be taken for fools.
Sorry, this new craze for private jets is as a result of too much cash sitting pretty in some church accounts and the custodians (men of the robe) thinking how best they can enjoy it becase it is pointless having so much money and not being able to enjoy it.

It did not start with private jets and it will not end with it ! It may have started with long shoes,nice suits and belt to match ! Nice car(s) using commercial planes and now private jets ! Who knows what next ! If u think there is wisdom and it is eye opening to insult pple wether men of God or not,then go ahead.''Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in the ways of this world, he must become a fool to become really wise.''-1 Corinthians 3:18

SEE BELOW WHAT MOST OF US HAVE BEEN SAYING TO MEN OF GOD BEFORE AND NOW !

[b]Man of God no get money u say him dey poor as church rat.Say him suit na coat & him shoe barb bobby brown becos e don chop finish.
Man of God come preach for U in dat condition,come tell u say his God will supply all ur needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.U come tell am say why him God no supply for am 1st b4 him go supply for others. Now man of God come see am say him fit still make money like Job,solomon,Isaac & even Abraham as God say him don give us power to make wealth & come still go heaven !Man of God come apply D heavenly principles of makin wealth,come still get better better relationship with God,come preach to u again,u come say becos him wey be man of God get money,car,plane wey 'God give am',say him na THIEF,BASTARD,FAKE,PASTORPRENEUR. Haba my friend,abi God no fit give person things wey good ?Abi na only poverty God sabi give HIM children or if you say good things self na for children of God,man of God no follow for children of God !
You don forget say as we get fake na so original plenty !
wake up if u care ! Or u may still decide to be poor with sores on your body just like lazarus & still go to heaven. It depends on what you want friend !
Man of God don sign to be in good health,receive wealth from God wey him go take enjoy the long life wey God give am for earth while his relationship with God is still very very intact ![/b]

Now it depends on what u want to do with ur life ! But i pray that God will help everyone of us !
God bless us

ogaju007: Who told you the religious affiliation of this person?

If he isn't a christian,no wonder i said christians shouldn't join forces with unbelievers and heathens alike to contradict the word of God. If this person is not a christian by religion,then i am only telling him that 'we'christians dnt insult pple !
God help us

Kamsy10: sharaap. does your comment even make sense to you

No insults pls ! Christians dnt do that !
God help us

Kamsy10: It's even more worrisome that people are afraid to correct the pastors when they are clearly derailing. The way the jet madness is on the rise, any pastor that doesn't have one means that his ministry is not doing well. I expect the next round of competition to be: How many jets do you have?

The question should be; why do you need a private jet ?
If it is a want and not a need,then relax until it becomes a need ! See below what the word of God said concerning NEEDS:
''And my God will supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus.-Phillipians 4:19

Those who are afraid to insult pastors and abuse them by calling them all sorst of name,they are the ones God has made to be wise ! But we may think they are gulliele,afraid and foolish !
God bless us

Kamsy10: My dear call a spade a spade, nigerian pastors n jet madness is very worrisome. Even when they recount their achievements like, I built a university, how many of their members can afford those schools. At the end, the school is built for the rich. Whats my point? I'm happy to see that my people boldly condemn jet acquisition by pastors cos right now,there is no clear difference btw them and politicians

Criminals use ipads and cell phones,does using such gadgets make me a criminal also?
People who lodge in hotels go in with the opposite sex most times !Does dat mean if i lodge in a hotel overnight i must go in with an opposite sex ?
For the fact that politicians use jets does that make using jet a bad thing ? Tuface wears a low cut or skin cut hair and he is a hip hop artiste wen a wear same hair cut may be as a pastor pple say i have gone hip hop !
That is not how it works. Pators are humans and if God has promised his children the good things of life,i dnt see anything wrong if i accept good things of life from God ! The only time i can down play on having those good things is wen i see that it can cos u to fall as a baby christian but that does not mean i am not entitled to have it !
If they recount their achievements like 'i built a university' like u have rightly said,is there anything wrong in saying that ? The only time i will call them and say 'ah man of God are you saying God never helped you in achieving this fit ? If he said No ! I did it alone then i will remind him that the word of God said it is only a fool that will take credits for the things he has achieved !
I dnt try to be wise with God ! If i start to negatively criticise the church and the men of God today,i dnt think any one of you can do that more than me. I want to appear foolish concerning the things of God so that God can make me wise ! See below scripture:
''Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in the ways of this world, he must become a fool to become really wise.''1 Corinthins 3:18
God help us

lastpage: Dolt!
You forgot to add the STANDARD REPLY: "Touch not my anointed and do my Bishop no-harm"?

God gave you (and everyone else) A BRAIN, FOR A REASON! ....So that you would at least do some ground research and stop bothering HIM on mundane things!

But peeps like you are REFUSING to use that Brain!
Instead, you croon: ONLY GOD KNOWS!

I also noticed that you have made it your duty to "respond to everyone's post"?

Are you a beneficiary (one way or the other) ...Or have Pastors too started giving out Forty (40) Laptops?

Waka joor make l see front.

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I'm not disturbed in anyway with the negative comments i see or hear about pastors. Pators are human just like you and i. If there is any one of them that has done something 'wrong',what i will do is to let him know according to the dictates of the bible and i go home and pray for them ! God and my wife will bare me withness that we(My wife and i)both pray for the country Nigeria morning and night ! I pray also for the fake and true men of God (POPE,REV.PASTORS,BISHOPS,DEACONS,EVANGELISTS AND OTHER BELIEVERS AND NON BELIEVERS) That is what i am saying my friend. Let us pray for them Becos i dnt belive in the doctrines of the roman catholic church does not mean i should insult and abuse the pope ! But God knows his pple ! Just pray for them all ! But i know becos the bible says that all liars will end up in hell ! Anyone who lives in sin and does not want to repent will end up in hell ! I did not say so but that is a statement of fact according to the bible ! We should not be happy that fake men of God should end up in hell ! Pray for them to repent my friend !
God will help us

REVOLUTNIS: ur reply didn't answer my question. i agree wt the Bible references here but i think u are contradict urself sir.
u said u are a co creator with God who in Genesis 1:26-27 "And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness" the plural "Let us" is talking of Trinity or Godhead referring to God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Where did u MAN fall in to be a 'co creator with ALMIGHTY God? that He blessed them and charged the sons of Noah to be fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.Gen 9:7 Does these made MAN a co creator with Elohim? u quoted Matt 16:19, how does it fit-in in MAN being a co creator with God. Sir,explain to me how u MAN become a co creator with GOD.

Sir,you have spoken well. You never insulted me becos you didn't agree with me. I can perceive that you are a christian who stive for the word. May God bless you sir.
Concerning the quote Gen 1:26, 'Let's make man in our own image,man was not there but trinity like u rightly said. But i gave u that quote to show you a little or tail end of the creative powers of God. Now God said again,''Let them(man)have dominion over the sea,air and land'' If you read down you will see what we are expected to have dominion over.God is is giving us part of his powers. Now see below what he said to us in Gen 1:28:
''God bless them and said to them,''BE FRUITFUL'' to be fruitful means to be productive. In the beging we saw how fruitful and productive God is ! And HE is now empowering us fuully by asking us to be productive! You see the link of the Trinity empowering man to do things ! Remeber HE said 'LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE''
Gen.35:11 God said''I am God Almighty; B[b]E FRUITFUL AND INCREASE IN NUMBER'[/b]' He said we should increase in number. He did not do it directly but gave me and YOU the power to produce or create fellow men ! He made us co-creators by saying we should be FRUITFUL AND INCREASE IN NUMBER. God gave us powers to produce humans ! By the GRACE OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD, MY WIFE AND I WILL PRODUCE A BABY THIS DECEMBER IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS...Amen. Why is it possible? God made it possible by making us to be co-creators with HIM!
Deutronomy 6:6 said These words which i command you this day shall be in your hearts.You shall teach them diligently to ur children,and shall talk to them whaen you sit in ur house,when u walk by the way,when you lie down and wen u rise up.'' God did not come to do this other creative part of life but asked me to do it !Any christian who does not do according to the dictates regarding christian admonition to his or her children is limiting the creative powesr of God in him and God will not be happy with such a person.
See below what Jesus is saying concerning the powers HE HAS GIVEN ME:
''I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[a] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”Mathew 16:19
The above is a fit only Christ can accomplish. But HE gave it you and I ! Any day i fail to take authority,i will be limiting the powers given to me by God.
My friend and broda in Christ Jesus,if the above still does not answer ur question wether WE(you and I) are co creators with God the father,son and the holly spirit,then i can't do any other thing but to pray that God via the holly spirit will help u see it some day !
God bless us all

tpacalipse: It is written in the holy book: 2 Timothy 3:2 people will become boasters...........

You are right my friend ! Boasting did not start today
But we should boast in Christ Jesus.
Apostle paul said to a congregation; thank God i speak in tongues more than every one of you here ! He boasted in the lord. But if u boast outside God,it is a sin !
''I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 1 Corinthians 14:18
God help us

cyril83: God has already judged them...book of matthew says you cannot be the slave of two masters! You will like one more than the other or be more loyal to one other than the other,you cannot serve both God and money. I tell u not to worry about your life,don't worry about having something to eat,drink,or wear isn't life more than food or clothing,look at the birds in d sky,they don't plant or harvest,they don't even store grain in barns yet your father in heaven takes care of them...why our so called MOG not learning from this

If you are slave to money it means you can worship money ! If you work to get money are you a slave for the money ? If they worship money it means they love money above God ! But for now,only God knows whether you,me or those men of God truly worship money neglecting HIM(God) Most times,if you make money expecially the one given to u by God,pple may mistake it for the worship of money !
God Help us

cyril83: God has already judged them...book of matthew says you cannot be the slave of two masters! You will like one more than the other or be more loyal to one other than the other,you cannot serve both God and money. I tell u not to worry about your life,don't worry about having something to eat,drink,or wear isn't life more than food or clothing,look at the birds in d sky,they don't plant or harvest,they don't even store grain in barns yet your father in heaven takes care of them...why our so called MOG not learning from this

If you are slave to money it means you can worship money ! If you work to get money are you a slave for the money ? If they worship money it means they love money above God ! But for now,only God knows whether you,me or those men of God truly worship money neglecting HIM(God) Most times,if you make money expecially the one given to u by God,pple may mistake it for the worship of money !
God Help us

lastpage: If you repeat this lie again, thunder-fire-your mouth and your nose will grow ridiculously long like that of PINOCCHIO!

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Stop the insult my brother ! You are happy writing for men to applaud you right ! But what is God saying concerning the things u put up here-insulting pple as u like ?From Wale Oke's statement,i'm yet to see abuses he made towards any one !
God bless us

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You should be ashamed of yourself!
Which Nigerian Society did you transform? Transform from "Good to Bad"?

*In the 70's, Kidnapping was hardly heard of. Armed Robbery was sparse. Ritual killing can only happen in "The Village", for traditional purposes!
Today, it has become like "a hobby" for our Youths, in every nook and cranny of Nigerian society.

*In the 70's, "Feeding" was NEVER AN ISSUE for University Undergraduates as the school provided "first class" standard meals for all students @5Kobo/Ticket/Meal. Today, Students have to do all sorts of "operations" (Cultism, Robbery, Prostitution, Conductor, Okada-riding, e.t.c), just to put food in their mouth so as to have a little energy left for study! No wonder they can concentrate properly!
That is how you leeches, robbing in the name of God, have transformed this country of ours.


Your generation is a curse to this country!
Nigeria would have been better, from all available evidence.
1.) Before you came, Nigerians live a better life, economically.
Then, it was just a few churches, mostly Catholic, Aladura and the "Traditional Pentecostal" like "The Baptist, Methodist, and Presbyterian ......but when thieving men like you brought your "get-rich-quick" Ministry to Nigeria, it marked the beginning of the demise of morals in this country!

2.)Another "evidence" is that, if you look at other Nations that dont have this your type of "get-rich-buy-Jet-by all means Ministry", they are actually doing better than Nigeria.
Nigeria and Malaysia were at par, in the 70's ....(they actually borrowed Palm Fruit from us, to transplant in their country, but today, we import Palm Oil and other Palm-related products from them! ).... but today, they are hundreds of years ahead of us. Brazil, China, Indonesia are other examples of "developing countries" that left us behind.
While we "blossomed" in the areas of "Wayo Ministry" that your types preach, these other countries blossomed economically!

So, please, l take God beg you, stop acting like a Hypocrite! You know what Nigeria would have been without thieves liek you who prey on the gullible.
If "Prayers were Horses", then Nigeria should be one of the best places in the world but alas, it is filled with "Spiritual Scammers" like yourself.

Let God be the judge !
See below what Christ said :

''You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Mathew 7:1-3 ''Judge not, that ye be not judged''. Mathew 7:5

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?''
Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling !
God bless us

ogaju007: Guy you're ffdd up beyond repair.

Thank u sir ! If God sees me as condemend,HE alone can repair me !
May God bless u
God help us all !

ogaju007: Now im convinced you've been brainwashed or paid by someone to keep this thread going. What if you were a Judge? would you quote you bible in church? OMG!!!

Why should i quote bible in the court if am to be a judge ! I will quote the law ! The bible is the word to be used for true believers !
[b]All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:[/b]2nd Timothy 3:16
God bless us

ogaju007: Ok not everything is spiritual.... So what you're saying in essence is if you get duped by a 419er, nobody should say anything but wait till your jesus comes? your reasoning is beyond me.

To be spiritually minded is death my friend. If these men of God fail to do God's biding but theirs,let God take charge of It. If i get duped,in the house of God by a supposedly man of God,i should petion him to God and not men becos they are not men of men but claim to be men of God ! If i get duped by others outside the church,i can report to the authorities that those men are subject to. The bible said that the husband is the head of the wife,Christ is the head of the church and God is the head of Christ ! You see the hierarchy ! Now who said i have bin duped in the house of God by men of God ? If what they tell me is not scriptural,then i will not obey.But if it is and i obey not knowing that they are taking advantage of me,lET GOD JUDGE THEM.
God help us

ogaju007: Hmmm i wonder if being a true xtian actually stops you from evaluating statements made by others or actually finding out if something is true or not. Just a thought.

The only measurement u can use to find out if something is true is the HOLY bible ! What u think or feel does not matter. And if they are wrong,pray for them and if you can speak to them one on one pls do. Stop throwing stones. Christ never asked us to evaluate or judge but to be careful of fake prophets ! Bein careful is staying clear and keep working on ur own salvation !
God bless us

intrepid: by their fruit you shall know them...LET them start buying submarines and ships while ppl like you keeps defending them....My advice is: MAKE SURE THE MASTER'LL Recognise you when He comes again.

That should be the point ! If Jesus comes today will you who speak against them and call them all sorts of names be recognised by Christ becos of the abuses u Rain on these pastors ? Pls leave God to judge them. No man can fight for God. Better still,pray for them.
God bless us

ogaju007: This MKO 205 guy is being paid by pastors to defend them oooo no mind the poor guy... he is only doing his job lol

I am not a pastor and i dnt intend to be one but i want to be a TRUE christian for life !
God bless us

Wrex: ;DI wonder ooo...can there churches be bigger than catholic....dis pple never stop to amaze me

No one is comparing whaich one is fist or biggest yet ! The only biggest and perfect church is in heaven. Only christ can make one or things perfect. Christ want's us to be perfect and he knows that HE alone is d one who can help us. Bin first does not mean u are the best in christianity. Becos christ said those that started first might even be last ! So leave bin big out of this pls. Work out ur own salvation and leave negative criticism .
May God help every one of us
God bless us