₦airaland Forum

Shelloween:
The funny part? Some people would still attend his church on Sundays.

Women especially will be there. In their best clothes and in the front row (of course).

michaelfriday44:
rubbish who is he to speak for the whole southern kaduna people. am not saying he is not right but southern kaduna people are minority , if any shit should start today they will be clear like grass.

Why is it that whenever people express a desire to extricate themselves from the north the response is always violence?

proeast:
Good morning to you my bro. What Ojukwu saw in 1960's, Orkar realized in 1990's is what you're now seeing in 2017? No Wahala sha.

No. I've known this since I was a child.

It is not me who is just now awakening.

But I'm glad that others are waking up.

Let us banish the real problem instead of attacking each other over petty reasons.

The rest of us know that child marriage is wrong - but not in Sokoto.

The rest of us know that a child needs to be fed, educated and nurtured - but not in Kano where they think it's okay to throw a child on the street to beg.

NOBODY wants to be anchored with the core North.

NO ONE.

Why would they? What do you get from Sokoto, Borno, Katsina and the other useless emirates in the North besides senseless terrorism (whether that be Boko Haram or Fulani herdsmen), child marriage, awful leadership, poverty and gross stupidity?

And that is why I keep insisting that the solution is not for the Igbos to leave but for the rest of Nigeria to come together and push the core North out of the union. They are a cancer on not just Nigeria but west Africa at large.

plappville:
Just few years to come. A big war will breakout before Islam can be eradicated. My opinion anyway

Are we not fighting a big war currently?

Are they not already killing indiscriminately?

Mujtahida:
European? Did you not see Arthur Koestler and Shlomo Sand both Jews there? Shey I said you have problems with comprehension.

I understand that history is not a one sided affair. I understand that there's always an alternative side to the dominant view. But I guess you don't see things that way.

Don't project your own internalised mentality of hatred on me. That's a skill manipulative people use. I am adept at parrying such juvenile twistedness. Tell them 'come, look at this other side, it might be different from what you think and assume' they quickly start yapping 'he hates us, he hates us'. How childish!

Audi alterem partem - listen to the other side is an ancient legal dictum. I only invited you to investigate the other side and draw your inference.

Arthur Koestler was Hungarian you dolt.

Shlomo Sand was born in Austria. His parents were Polish.

Those are Europeans. Your anti-Semitism doesn't allow you to understand geography, apparently.

What alternative are you talking? We're talking about Biafra and you're still talking nonsense about Jews after I told you that there is no comparison.

Mujtahida:
The person I quoted made the comparison regarding scapegoats and nationhood . Your last paragraph shows lack of comprehension as far the statement which I quoted and you also did too is concerned.
Scapegoats and nationhood. Understand that

You posted some European anti-Semitic nonsense to justify your hatred of Igbos.

It is you who has a poor grasp of comprehension (and history) which is you cannot see who the real problem in all this is.

Mujtahida:
Because the manipulative child always plays the victim to mask his manipulations.
Because like the Jews they have perfected the art of victimorology and it works like a charm.

Have you read beyond what you've always repeatedly heard and read and regard as the infallible truth?

Do you know how the modern nation of Isreal came to be founded, the real aims of the two world wars? Do you understand the import of zionism?
scapegoats? Heck! From the exodus to the holocaust - do you your research, you will be shocked. Don't just mouth historical platitudes, many of which have been proven to be outrightly false or at best a heartless mixtures of truth and lies. Penetrate the meaning of the book of Esther, read about the link between purim and the Nuremberg trials

Presently I am reading the 'Invention of the Jewish people' by Shlomo Sand (Jewish Historian) and I can give you scores of other books to read and topics to research on if you want to escape the danger of a single story
'The Controversy of Zion' by Douglas Reed
(that's why I laugh when I hear some Igbos say that they are Jews - I ask, which of the Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews or the Sephardic Jews?). Read the 'Thirteenth Tribe' by Arthur Koestler (a Jew), The International Jew by Henry Ford(founder of Ford motors)

The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you- Polish proverb
Nb: I am only calling your attention to the fact that there's another side to the stories you have heard and that side too deserves a hearing. Only then can you draw your conclusions whichever way.
Sapele914
Mmsen

There's no comparison between Jews and Igbos, that's a lazy assessment.

Only fools claim such.

There's more to Igbos wanting their own nation than the Jewish nonsense.

Try harder.

He said that because the government is of northern extraction that is why there are issues - but if Buhari's government was moving the nation forward would there be so many people complaining?

The fact that he has such a lopsided system of appointment doesn't help but what makes it worse is that they are so ineffectual.

omooba969:
You guys are trouble makers indeed, what do you mean by uselessness of the north? You all do business there, earn a living & you still refer to where you get your daily bread as 'useless'.

What kind of people are you sef? You're never friendly with your hosts, you routinely fail to integrate & never ashamed of your repugnant bigotry.

You guys need to learn to live peacefully with your neighbours o coz I see that your elders have failed to recount history to you lot.

History is tricky & ruthless, 'hope y'all listen.

What hosts? I don't live in the north?

And as I have said already in this thread - I am not Igbo but I understand why some of them are agitating for their own nation.

If you want to know what I mean by uselessness of the north - look at the various indices. Look at education stats; poverty; maternal death; literacy; marriage age and it will very quickly become clear what I mean.

You can make all the online threats that you want, it does not change the facts.

Yyeske:
Obviously,you don't know what is being agitated for, ask around for better understanding please.

They want their own nation, divorced from the uselessness of the north.

And I can't blame them.

Yyeske:
Recall your reps and senators from Abuja, elect people sympathetic to the Biafran cause, stop the hate and name calling, lobby other regions too. And when it's inserted, you are good to go, otherwise it's a call to war.

They are not 'my reps'. I already asked why it is that when someone talks logically about this issue you assume that they are Igbo.

What war? What would you fight over? They want to leave? If they hate you so much, as you think, surely you should be campaigning for them to go?

lonelydora:
Islam is the religion for the poverty stricken northerners

You said it.

It's designed to keep the poor, very poor.

And ensure that the wealthy can buy their daughters and rape them when they feel like it.

Use their sons as vessels for Jihad (violence).

Fill the minds of the young with tales of theft, robbery, rape and murder and claim that such is moral.

Fill young minds with fairy-tales instead of mathematics and science or anything that can be proven.

Fill young minds with Arabic instead of the lingua franca of the country.

Tell Africans that they should aspire to go to Mecca so that they can waste their hard earned money on camping in the desert, throwing rocks at a building and being treated with no regard by the useless Saudis. And when Saudi incompetence raises its head to the fore, expect to be blamed for their failings.

Islam also impedes any productivity by interfering with the workday every few hours so that any meaningful exercise must cease so as to scrape your forehead on the ground.

Pure stupidity.

hucienda:
Things are coming to a head.

The Igbo are the scapegoat in Nigeria just like the Jews were for most of history - till the last straw that broke the camel's back during WWII.

Soon enough, should the harassment, nonsense talk, persecution and violence against them continue, they will have a nation state like the Jews.

Jews didn't entirely leave Europe and many that did when to America where they also face anti-Semitic sentiment.

Yyeske:
Not in the constitution and it must be inserted through the constitutional way or you are praying for an outright war

Again, it is a FG issue.

But you said it as if those who desire Biafra could simply do it of their own recognizance.

Yyeske:
IPOB has always maintained it wanted a UN monitored referendum, the arewa youths supported and endorsed same, what are you still waiting for

You realize that it is the FG who would need to organize such, right?

And are you also aware that not every Igbo is in support of Biafra.

Yyeske:
Leave ranting, go get your Biafra, you refused.
Go get your referendum, you still refused.
We will be waiting for millions of you at upper iweka

Why is that whenever someone argues rationally you assume that they are Igbo?

Which referendum did Igbos refuse?

Are they not fighting for Biafra?

What are you talking? Why can't you think logically?

Yyeske:
Nigeria has all right to revoke any International treaties and not even the UN or ICC or US can meddle in that.
Leave Nigeria with your wealth and properties, nobody is holding you back but yourselves

Good luck with the sanctions that follow.

You know how your useless leaders like to take all of their money out of the country once they've pilfered it from state coffers? Then bring it back in drips and drabs to gives as alms to the poorly educated, almajiri masses - they won't even be able to do that much once they're hit with sanctions.

All those foreign items that you people like to waste money on will become a thing of the past.

The dollars that you like to waste on your senseless pilgrimages will become much more expensive.

That foreign education that some of you insist on for your children will become a pipe dream for most of you.

ProWalker:
HAusa and Ibos, Nigeria's problem children

Why are Igbos Nigeria's problem children?

They aren't the ones who go on wanton killing sprees.

These people show themselves to be more and more stupid by the day.

Even if they were to leave Nigeria they would still have the right to own property - afterall, there are people from Niger Republic who own property in northern Nigeria. There are Lebanese and Indians who own businesses in northern Nigeria - are you going to seize their assets too?

SalamRushdie:
We should have left Jonathan it seems , as clumsy as he seemed then his govt was a lot more purposeful and visionary than this zero govt we have today

He wasn't particularly 'clumsy' there was just more honesty (and a more human touch) than Nigerians are used.

Decisions were made based on the evidence at hand as well as the will of the people, something you would expect to find in a democracy but Nigerians like authoritarian nonsense.

Many people in Nigeria (especially in the north and the areas west of the Niger River) like monarchy which is nothing but the deificiation of man. And deities can't make mistakes...

tonio2wo:
Na now day break!

I take your point but for some reason people get very touchy when squatters are removed.

I have no idea why.

Connoisseur:
It all comes back to the original quote.
Poor judgement makes us human. We proposed based on what we saw on ground but it didn't work out well.

Honestly, do you really blame anyone who sincerely believed Fashola would deliver?

Yes, I do.

Not as much as I blame those who were deceived into believing that Buhari was a messiah but he seemed too eager to take credit for things that were not necessarily his own achievements.

Now that he has been left to his own devices we can call see what he truly is - a man with a lot of mouth and little substance.

Tolexander:
Why allowing the boko haram to take charge of the 25 towns?

Prevention, they say, is better than cure!

Mediocrity is not meant to be celebrated!

Why did Boko Haram come into existence in the first place?

That is the real issue.

Why is Islam (a creed of over 1000 years of barbarity to its name) seen as the solution to social ills in the north? It hasn't eradicated social problems anywhere else, why would it work in west Africa?

Connoisseur:
It is not so stupid to put them on a higher ground.
There are other countries with same advantages, that are very much older than America. Did they attain the level of success America did.
While I understand we could learn from America's success, the fact that we didn't makes us give kudos to those who got it right.
E.g I sincerely believed Fashola when he said any reasonable government will fix it power problems in six months, I was elated when his party soon and he was made a 'super minister'. Two years down the line, we are still where we are.
Don't blame anyone when they rever people who got it right

Fashola was clearly a man who was largely talk. He has since been exposed by his successor at state level and his own ineptitude in his current position.

People who thought he was believable in his statements display(ed) poor judgment, which is why such people are prone to hero worship and deification of those who show themselves capable of the most mundane human feats of organization and execution.

Connoisseur:
No one is an idiot for putting America on a pedestal.
Their overall system I efficient so you don't blame anyone for putting them on higher ground seeing how difficult it is for us to meet our basic immediate needs

It is stupid if you cannot understand how it came to be.

They have leveraged slave labor and a military industrial system to take from others.

They're also several hundred years older than Nigeria.

There's a host of other reason but like I said, it's stupid to put them on a pedestal.

Learn from they've done, learn from where they've gone wrong and chart a new path for yourselves. Star gazing doesn't get anyone anywhere and for whatever reason Africans seem very keen to make deities out of any and everything.

Connoisseur:
If you listen deeply, you'd marvel at his choice of words;
"The fact that America can produce a Trump in this day and age, it means Americans are as human as we are,”

Good quote

It's only good for the idiots who put Americans on a pedestal.

Anyone who has been to America is aware that the average American is quite stupid.

NwaAmaikpe:



She should Clap for herself...
I wanted to call her a big mumu but I realized love makes all of us mumus.


Well she left one part out...
As a woman whose husband is abroad...there's no way she could achieve all that success in business and her work without sexual compromise.
She can't also say she was faithful 100%
So she might not have gotten that STI from him.

I strongly believe her husband helped in fulfilling scriptures for it is written;
Wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished: but he that gathereth by labour shall increase.
Prov 13:11

I'd advise she dusts herself up, forget about the man and go for thanksgiving that she was not beaten to death.

You are evil.

This woman is a victim and you are here abusing her.

Narldon:
GOVERNMENT SHOULD CONSTRUCT A GOOD DRAINAGE SYSTEM!!

Drainage doesn't help if people block it with their trash.

It's refuse disposal and collection that is the problem here.

simplyhonest:
must every topic be about buhari?.... has buhari stopped you from sleeping last night or waking up this morning?... can't we have intelligent conversations without it spilling to buhari?....

No.

Because voting for Buhari is symptomatic of the deeper issues that bedevil Nigeria.

vedaxcool:

For those of us who were born before 1966, we remember that Western Nigeria had its Constitution, the North had its own Constitution, and the East had its own Constitution

He wants to live in 1966 and continue the same ideas that did not work then, now. Europe created the EU not becauae they are unity beggars as our unemployed ipob brothers will chant because they know there is strength in numbers and they understand that through these bandying together they will be better placed to compete in the global market. But we see a situation were failure in 2015 elections has become a basis for restructuring a country. Such emotional reactions clearly indicates unintelligence of the most lowest kind.

People were talking about restructuring decades before the 2015 debacle.

He made a good point about the North having resources but not wanting to exploit them because of free money from the South.

That is part of the reason for the ridiculous poverty levels there that fuels the constant violence.

simplyhonest:
they should invest.... not make us slaves

Why would they need to make you slaves when many of you elected to become slaves to Buhari and friends.