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All for the sake of religion.

Pitiful.

Revert - to go back to.

Most people are not raised Muslim so they cannot return to said religion.

Generational curses?

You mean habits passed from parent to child? That is how we form many of our habits - we learn from those that raise us.

The term "generational curse" is (one of many reasons) why I am convinced that many people need intensive parenting skills training prior to having children.

GooseBaba:
The reason many of our forefathers adopted foreign religion was mainly for survival not worship. You have to realize the colonialist controlled the economy, while the missionaries controlled the schools. Something had to give.

Behind all superstition is an element of fear, a weak attempt to understand the world. That does not mean that some of these people were not genuine in their irrationality.

I do however take your point that there will always be those who will profess to believe something to placate those in positions of authority.

macof:
How has African religions kept you from knowledge?

African religion hasn't kept me from anything - I have never been exposed to it.

But the reason so many of the Nigerian peoples were willing to adopt foreign religions is because it wasn't a great alteration to go from one fairytale to another - they kept the idea of a supreme being, witches and other superstitions. No great change.

Wasn't Jesus an illegitimate child?

They're both involved in the same hustle - keeping people blind to knowledge so as to maintain control over them.

Most of the sheep, African or otherwise react negatively to non-xtian religious images because that is part of the in-group indoctrination integral for the spread (and strengthening) of the disease.

Christianity all but wiped out native pagan European religions, largely by incorporating many of the practices and celebrations - hence Easter and Christmas.

BabaGnoni:
... grabbing at straws

Those are very clear and concise quotes lifted straight from the Bible or the writings of one of the best respected Protestant theologians.

None of them foresaw that the price of oil dropping - which would affect the consumer at the pump but would also influence the Federal government.

That would affect the value of the government bonds issued by the various OPEC countries, including Nigeria.

So the Bible is not the unerring word of god?

Because the Bible is very consistent when it comes to the standing of women:

Genesis 3:16 - "A woman shall be ruled by her husband"

Exodus 21:7 - "Women can be sold"

1 Cor. 11:7 -"For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man."

And let us not forget this prize verse:

1 Cor, 7:1 - "It is good for man to have nothing to do with a woman"

Famous theologians such as Martin Luther subscribed to the notion that women were inferior, writing - "boys are good crops, girls are weeds". AND "If women become tired or even die, that does not matter. Let them die in childbirth, that is why they are there."

This is the nature of xtianity, like it or not.

Good thread guys.

Did he ever claim that his mother was a virgin?

That she should be prayed to?

His name tells you everything.

His real god is fiat currency.

Funjosh:
How did we now lost all these history

You think they were 'lost' or were they hidden from you?

If a people do not know who they are they are more likely to accept bad ideas from outside.

The Universe isn't in need of anything, it is people that need to create a purpose for themselves and some have resorted to making up or buying into myths for said purpose.

whitestar01:
interesting things dat I Neva knew but wat about corruption?

You think corruption is unique to Nigeria?

Welcome to Chicago - http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/December-2010/Why-Is-Illinois-So-Corrupt-Local-Government-Experts-Explain/

Nobleval:
God,I can't believe I just read these factswhat a waste of time..

Why is knowledge a waste of time?

Please explain.

Really good post OP.

Makes a pleasant change from all the self-loathing.

Good job.

Paul Lewis was an American Baptist Missionary. When seen in perspective of Thai attitudes about the hill tribes and their demands for sterilizations of these people, then Paul Lewis fits right in. However he seeks to make out as if he is doing the people a favor rather than doing himself a favor. As well we see many prejudicial remarks in this document typical to how missionaries rewrite the identity of a people, something the Akha say Paul Lewis was very good at.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cdtWpU8AOI

plaetton:
Actually sir, placing all your hopes in god creates the worst forms of anxiety.

Be honest, look at a city like Lagos with tens of thousands of churches, most with one form of program or another every single day. Why do you think people attend these daily programs? Anxiety.
The more they go, the more they pray, the more expectations of divine intervention in their lives.
The more they expect, the more dissapointed they are,the more mmeaningless, and again, the more anxiety in their lives.

It is a vicious circle that eats them up to their bones.

So, you are quite wrong. Believing in god carries serious and heavy liabilities.

All the while the preachers grow fat from the need of the worried to 'pray' (and tithe, of course).

presher:
educate me

The theory of god has never provided a barrier to real world issues or post traumatic stress disorder, one of the most extreme forms of depression.

You might want to read this - http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-raj-persaud/religion-depression_b_3928675.html

presher:
people who believe God place all their hope in God they hardly express anxiety fear

You have just exposed how little you know about mental health.

Depression and anxiety affect people irregardless of religious persuasion.

The only 'valid' reasons to profess a religion pertain to social games/rules (including politics) and the misguided notion that there is safety in numbers - in reality there is no safety in hiding behind fellow cowards.

obailala:
What is the business of the National Security Adviser and internet adult site censorship?

What sort of clueless leaders do we even have in Nigeria?

Political leaders will do whatever it takes to retain power and appear to be doing some good.

The Brits sought to introduce measures to curtail access to internet pornography and America is contemplating doing likewise.

Torrent sites are also largely blocked in the UK.

One of many cases of power for the sake of power.

Complete waste of energy and resources.

I understand that this will keep the religious crowd happy but theirs is not an opinion that should be adhered to.

Religion is a tool of deception by the ruling class.

I hope that people begin to open their eyes.

malvisguy212:
I have seen a girl healed from HIV, infacte the pastor that held prayer that night,after the prayer he continue his journey to Lagos, it was later in the day that they called him and let him know what happened. That same night, my best friend who we walk into church together, as the prayer was going on, he speak with multiple voices and cried.

If the op say Christians only, maby there is a reasoned for that. Thank you.

How did they verify that the girl

a) Had HIV

b) Was cured
?

macof:
As long as the Bible didn't mention my Ooye ancestors...I am certain the Bible is crap and not for the entire humanity

It isn't even relevant for the people for whom it was transcribed and later translated for.

Usury is forbidden according to the Bible, Quran and the Torah.

At least muslims still have this discussion - jews and xtians pretend that those verses (that prohibit usury) do not exist.

Another immaculate conception.

Or most likely another irresponsible female.

plaetton:
Not sure yet what to make of him.

I think he might be just an exuberant youth hung up on Premature Extrapolations , a form of intellectual self-service .

Intellectual self service or more accurately literary diarrhea.

Because there is nothing "intellectual" about what this character has written.

plaetton:
@op
Don't you even feel a tad silly complaining about the quality of debates on a religious forum ?

It goes a long way to show that, like a lot of other things, you are quite naive about what religion is and how it affects people.

He said that he isn't interested in the opinions of the people that he is now preaching to.

What do you call such a person?