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CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 11:58pm On May 20, 2018
Olu317:
Not true because ,some Yorubas enclave didnt pay any tributaries to Oyo but exchange of gifts. Otun in Ekiti and some in part of Kwara didn't pay Oyo any tributary. Awujale didn't pay. Ado Ekiti didn't pay tributary, In fact ,Ado ( Ekiti) initiated OYO into IFA, Orangun Ila didn't pay, Owa Obokun didn't pay,IFE Ooye can't pay(sacred city), Small States such as Iwo, Idanre,Oka, didn't pay, infact mostly Akoko Yorubas groups didn't pay because, many settlers in Akoko,were hunters,IFA priests, Osanyi Worshippers, princes and princes of different kings from IFE and few Odua descendants that moved to that direction for one reason or the other. These set of people were tactical in warefare, physically and spiritually fits. Outside these, the terrain were so hilly except the mastery of climbing and understanding, these forest zone's hilly tactics before such people could be defeated and it never happened...Many warring groups tried but failed.
It was Lisabi who freed the Egba from Oyo

Ekiti and ondo were not under Oyo jurisdiction

Ife was part of the Oyo Empire and the headquarters was old Oyo before it moved to Oyo ile. I don’t know if it paid tributes or not

What was ekiti and ondo’s Relationship to alaafin like before Kiriji?
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 11:40pm On May 20, 2018
@Davidnazee
Tell the ignorant elder who wrote that to bring back your girls from Italy and stop writing fables
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 10:50pm On May 20, 2018
davidnazee:
You claim to defeat Fulanis in just one battle and you are happy. Look all over Yoruba lands it’s Fulanis ruling you. Your Obas are becoming emirs, u are here lying to yourself.
In the past Yoruba was a war trophy for powerful kingdoms. Nupe conquered you, Fulanis conquered you, great Benin conquered and ruled you..
everybody knows Yoruba can bark and everybody knows yorubas cannot bite.

All your stories about Benin Kingdom is all lies that’s why I don’t bother challenging your stories but I will continue to give u facts about a time when Yoruba was weak..

Do you feel ashamed when u go through historical accounts and it is filled with Yorubas conquered and ruled by different kingdoms?
I can only pity your ignorance

I prefer my enemies underestimate me actually

Believe whatever you want about the noble people of yoruba

How does it feel to come from a culture of s.luts ?

Once Italy restricts the human cargo coming from your domains..

Oba won’t even have money for beads

grin grin grin
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 10:25pm On May 20, 2018
davidnazee:
Please stop giving ur name to another person. It’s Yorubas that is generally known as cowards. You guys are lucky for British intervention in Africa, if not for them you will be speaking Edo by now and singing Benin national anthem by now.
Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba people. You guys were once Benin subjects.

I don’t need to educate you on how many brave African monarchs British exiled. No be my fault you don’t know.
Yoruba was the official language of the Benin palace for years

Ewuare ended this tradition

We were and still are your benefactors

Thank the bravery of Oyo sons who defeated the marauding Fulanis at that final battle in Ibadan

Thesame Fulani force that conquered Hausa land

We know how to pick our battles

We are gentle and are not easily provoked

Do not take that for cowardice

Not that I care what you think

You and your folk are beneath me
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish:
@Obalufon

The British expedition on their little Benin lasted only 9 days 9–18 February 1897

Even the ijebus fought more valiantly than these Benin cowards

Once a slave always a slave

They were aiding the British to penetrate Nigeria

The British used canon fire to shell our forte in lagos and then 10,000 of those Benin cowards came into lagos and helped Britain

But the idiots did not realize Britain will come for them too

Karma

Benin monarch the only monarch in Nigeria who was banished from his own kingdom

Oh boy
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 7:36pm On May 20, 2018
davidnazee:
I checked Wikipedia too. It says Yorubas claim Oduduwa fell from the sky, it also says Benin gives a more realistic account of Oduduwa as an exiled Benin prince who relocated to Ife and conquered them.
Your Wikipedia also said early explorers found Benin to be a highly advanced and highly developed empire ruling over many towns and kingdoms including Yorubas but it only says dead Oyo was claimed to be a Yoruba empire in the west. Even Wikipedia does not have any factual accounts of Oyo because nobody witnessed it.
“The original people and founders of the Benin Kingdom, the Edo people, were initially ruled by the Ogiso (Kings of the Sky) who called their land Igodomigodo.”

Your ogiso’s apparently fell from the sky too. What’s your point ?


WIKIPEDIA “It was during this period of confusion the elders led by Oliha mounted a search for the banished Prince Ekaladerhan whom the Ife people will now called Oduduwa.”

The poor grammar above (see bolded) tells me a benin person wrote this
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 5:59pm On May 20, 2018
davidnazee:
All historical accounts names Lagos, Owo, Ekiti, Akure.. these Yoruba states were Benin Kingdom’s vassal, tributaries or colonies anyone u want to call it.
All these Yoruba noise started after the British propped you guys up for being loyal subjects.
While other tribes struggled against Whiteman rule Yoruba are the only ones that easily and humbly surrendered.

Benin kingdom conquered and ruled Yorubas.. that is a stigma on you guys forever. You are a conquered tribe. Our trophy.
Wikipedia lists your civilization as “Benin Kingdom”

They list mine as “Oyo Empire”

I researched your claims and according to Wikipedia and the Encyclopedia Brittanica your claims are inaccurate

Both websites also state that your kingdom went through some sectarian issues and you asked a prince of ife to come and restore order to your place

Not a word on Ekaladerhan
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 4:31pm On May 20, 2018
davidnazee:
Indeed Calabar flog Oba of Benin abi.. lol
Many Yoruba princes were slaves at Oba of Benin palace. A requirement by the Benin king to have conquered Yoruba kingdoms princes serve as slaves before they will be allowed to go back home to be king..
Yorubas are cowards that is a fact. Go ask Igbos or Hausas..
I’m not going to respond to your make believe fables

David, why do most sources of contemporary history maintain that Benin had no vassal states or tributaries?
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 3:50pm On May 20, 2018
davidnazee:
Please shut up... which Oyo? Oyo that was very dead and buried by the time the Europeans got to West Africa..
and are you not ashamed of yourself and Yorubas turning Benin story into Oyo story? It was the Oba of Benin that was described to the Europeans as a powerful king in the hinterland..
I feel sorry for you yorubas fighting for relevance in the past instead of fighting for a better future..
The whole world already know Benin conquered and ruled you people.. nothing can change that.
But calabar people flogged your oba na

Stop deluding yourself and accept you are worthless
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 2:45pm On May 20, 2018
@obalufon

Benin were extremely lucky they never faced Oyo face to face in an open plain

Benin were only good in melee combat (Hand to hand, swords)

Oyo had archers and cavalry

We couldn’t conquer them due to their walls and they sat tight within their walls

They couldn’t come out
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 2:41pm On May 20, 2018
samuk:
In terms of greatness, the only place in the whole of south sahara African that was fit enough to be described as a City when the European arrived in the 15th century was Benin. Benin did not name herself a City but the Europeans did. Don't forget they visited the whole of Africa, they also name a section of the ocean running through the west coast of Africa ( the bight of Benin) after Benin for her greatness, this is where Republic of Benin took her name. Today as a reminder of Benin Empire's greatness, a huge body of international water (bight of Benin) was named after her by European cartographers, a whole country where some of the inhabitants speak Yoruba (Republic of Benin) bears her name, Republic of Benin had the options of naming herself the Republic of Oduduwa or Republic of Oyo but choose Republic of Benin instead. What about Benin arts in most major museums in the world, from Europe to America to Canada to Australia. Benin Empire was the first to exchange ambassador with a European country in the 16th century even before any of the present countries that made up the Africa continent was put together as nations by the Europeans. The lists goes on and on but I will pulse here for now and over to you to point to the independently verifiable evidence that made Oyo even a kingdom let alone great and mind you all I have written was confirmed independently by the Europeans and not some Benin Historians and these evidence can still be verified today.
Benin did not have any tributary states

Oyo had Dahomey, and all the Yoruba tribes southward as tributaries

Oyo administered and controlled these areas.

Benin city had a good layout. And good arts ye

But the military might in precolonial Nigeria were 3 peoples

Oyo

Sokoto

Kanem Borno
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 2:38pm On May 20, 2018
Obalufon:
they can't go up north .Portuguese traded with the coastal tribe Portuguese get to know about ife and and oyo from the coastal tribes
The Europeans told the oba that they have heard of a very fierce king in the hinterland whose face no one can see.

The oba of Benin confirmed it.

They were referring to the alaafin of Oyo
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 12:18pm On May 20, 2018
Obalufon:
SORRY BENIN KINGDOM NOT EMPIRE .. EMPIRE OVER WHO BUNCH OF FOREST SAVAGES ..LAUGH ROLLING ON THE FLOOR
There are no written accounts from any independent African and non African sources on any official tributary state of the Benin kingdom

Show me any Wikipedia or any more respected source which names any Benin tributary state

Benin people you cannot do it

Oyo had many tributary states as verified by the conquered, African and European sources

Benin in a delusion about their kingdom
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 11:32pm On May 19, 2018
Moorish:
Alaafin was never humiliated by Europe

Oba of Benin was flogged on the way to calabar
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 1:51pm On May 19, 2018
Alaafin was never humiliated by Europe

Oba of Benin was flogged on the way to calabar
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 5:41am On May 14, 2018
EdoNation:
Yoruba's have no pride or sense of self worth , such a pity..... Tufia!!
Madam, you too join?

You go wound oh?

Na man dey fight war
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 2:27pm On May 13, 2018
Elliot2:
You need to understand that the Igbos were not fighting the yorubas;the hausas; or the ijaws, as individual tribes...they fought with Nigeria! The reason why I called it cowardice was because,there was good reasons to support Biafra exit as at that time. Remember that the Igbos suffered for the actions of the yorubas? In 1946 or so,they were murdered in their numbers in the north without any provocations from them; in 1953 or so,they were murdered in their numbers again. And these were caused by the yorubas basically. It was during the pre- independent meeting in Lagos State that the rancour happened between the yorubas and hausas,which led to the murder of majority Igbos in the North. And that was the reason Igbos celebrated in the north when the coup of 1966 happened. So,at that point when the Igbos sought to secede,there was good reasons for the yorubas to support their exit. There was good reasons for the ijaws to support it,too; since they were the first to agitate to secede.
Sincerely speaking,I really want the east and west to cooperate,likewise the north. The problem we have is not the average northerner,easterner or westerner,but our elites. If we tackle the elites,then our problems are solved. But in the meantime,I really want the west to cooperate with the east. God has blessed the west with the strategic position after the civil war to either mar or make Nigeria. They are the only ones that can tackle the excesses of the north,since they are the co-victors with the north,so now they should act like victors and not be subservient to the north.
I personally do not deal with the north

I share linguistic and genetic similarities with the south of nigeria

those are my people and that is my focus

however, if one of the tribes from the south should show animosity instead of brotherhood,

that is when the guns come out

nonetheless, a southern united front gives me a hard on

peace to you
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 6:18am On May 13, 2018
chrisb2r200:
Bros na ur own worst pass....salve to the devil and all his crew...I pity u
I don’t believe in malevolent mythical spiritual forces

It is *slave, you idiot
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish:
davidnazee:
"a section of Ekiti historians like Atolagbe who adduced to the pre-eminence of Oore as the most senior Yoruba and Ekiti Oba was linked to the fact that Oore signed the 1886 peace treaty which the British coordinated with Alaafin of Oyo and the Oowa Obokun amongst others. The Oba of Benin was also made to enter into treaty with the Alaafin of Oyo. Under this treaty, the Oba of Benin would have Ekiti, Ondo, Edo and other parts of his traditional areas of influence as part of Benin zone of influence, and it would be free of Oyo territorial incursions, while the Alaafin of Oyo would have the Western and Northern Yoruba territories"
The war of words is over from me

Let us be guided

This tribal war between southern tribes does not yield any benefit

Our fragmentation continues to benefit our collective oppressor
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 1:05am On May 13, 2018
I want this debate to end

Now

Benin is conquered territory

So is yoruba land

No matter how much we glorify our nations

We fell to another greater nation, Britain

I want a Yoruba country.

The south south do not like us.

The igbos don’t either

But all three of us are being controlled and ruled by the north

It is unwise for us to keep fighting

It only benefits our collective oppressor

I was respectful towards Benin

But you people kept dishonouring my heritage

I will say this

Nigeria is doomed

I want out

So I call for a cease fire between southern tribes

I think enemies can unite to fight a collective enemy who is a.nalfucking them both

It’s over
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 12:59am On May 13, 2018
Elliot2:
yea,sure! But u guys acted cowardly then. Fact! But i am glad u r proving me wrong with ilorin as a case study. Kudos
Not cowardly

We defended our territory from ojukwu’s advance

Had he marched to Kano, we would have stayed neutral in that war

But I understand lagos was seat of power

But ojukwu forgot that it is also yoruba territory

That is in the past

How do we move forward as per Nigeria?

Don’t you think east and west should cooperate if we want to end Hausa Fulani political dominance ?

If not, it’s ok, the status quo remains

Do igbos have a strategy for Biafra ?

Can u do it alone ?
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 12:56am On May 13, 2018
TheKingIsHere:
Go and fight the enemies in the south while the real enemies from the north kill and take over your land and heritage.

Atleast, this imam was able to see the real enemies of yorubas
You are correct igbos are not our real enemies

The Fulani won’t talk, they act

Igbos and yorubas talk but cannot fight Hausa Fulani political dominance

Who is fooling who?
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 12:54am On May 13, 2018
Elliot2:
the last time it happened,it took the supports of world powers, over 240 ethnic groups,and three good years to fight one ethnic group-the igbos. I swear,if it were the yorubas,even for just one week,you guys would have been history with no trace of yoruba fossils. So be humble where the igbos are, we ain't mates. And moreover,be very very humble before the hausa fulanis!
Noticed that you said humble wrt Igbo

And very humble wrt Hausa Fulani

You basically just said Hausa Fulani are superior to u

Forget the superiority tussle

I could insult Igbo too

But not today

I think there are times two enemies can unite against a bigger enemy that is a.nalfucking both of you

The more we fight, your Biafra will never actualize

Do you igbos have a strategy or ur reacting emotionally every time ?
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 12:46am On May 13, 2018
davidnazee:
Do you know that your own mother cheated on your useless father? Idiot child of a witch mother and armed robber father..
The guy vex oh!

I posted facts. Is that your reply? grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 7:41pm On May 12, 2018
Postanalyser:
oru di nma nwa nne.

you guys should know that we the igbos have always prayed for a day like this to come,a day that you the yorubas will realize that Nigeria is a failed state.A day which you will seek emancipation. I cease to call you "cowards" from this day till the day our dreams come through.
If Igbo and Yoruba can agree that we are not brothers.... but ...

We need to cooperate to gain our freedom or to have a better Nigeria

Nothing will be beyond us

The south have to be the most foolish set of people on the face of the earth

Do you know how intelligent and exposed southern Nigerians are ?

Do you know our international accomplishments in all fields of human endeavour ?

Yet look at our state in this failed nation

When will we wake up?
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 7:10pm On May 12, 2018
Postanalyser:
shut the fvck up,you all are e-warriors, action speaks louder than the click sound your keyboard makes.
If you need the entire Yoruba tribe to be wiped out in days,mess around one igbo.
You also proved that you are an e-warrior
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 7:04pm On May 12, 2018
Simbrixton:
If you are a yoruba son and u believe in oduduwa Republic our biggest enemies are the igbos they are unhappy with the revolution that would soon start in ilorin do not lose faith ignore their comment 40 million yoruba would make a strong country we must teach oduduwa Republic evn if it costs us our lives we have two enemies igbos and fulanis and we would destroy them mostly the igbos they are usually unhappy when we shout our cry for freedom i want to encourage yoruba youths to join opc Israel is strong today because every Israeli is a soldier the same way with the fulanis join Opc today i appeal on yoruba youths may eledumare keep our secret our enemies would be destroyed in our eyes p.s any igbo that quotes me would die in seven days
If i lead our troops, I won't venture east

Igbos want the same things we want

The beef on here is just friendly banter, some competition and some bitterness

I am a yoruba man and igbo people f.ucked me over and igbo people also had my back numerous times

It is what it is

I think Odduduwa republic will be a good thing

As the days go by I want it more.. I once believed in this union.. but maybe i was wrong
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 6:53pm On May 12, 2018
Tundeobama:
my yoruba Muslim brothers I can tell you 100 cases like this which makes it crystal clear hausa/fulani don't like you despite same religion you better open your eyes.Any office meant for Christian Eg can Yoruba Christian are allowed to highest office Christian in East North and south proudly worship in churches own by West.But hausa fulani hardly want to associate with you my brothers.Yoruba Christians will always love you we are one tribe before religion.
ipods that are mocking face front,a wakeup call on yoruba expecially Muslim in ilorin who abandoned thier yoruba name for religion name it's bullish it.
We Yorubas need to unite and go back to the spirituality of our forefathers

You Christians also Abandoned the heritage of our ancestors

You are slaves to the Jews.

You are not loved by the igbos either
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 6:45pm On May 12, 2018
Nigeria= arab slave vs jew slave

I hate you all
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 6:43pm On May 12, 2018
Postanalyser:
Emancipation of what?
forget it....you people were created to serve the foolanis.Any attempt to do otherwise can lead to ultimate wipe out of that dirty tribe of yours.
keep it funny and witty

your post was boring
PoliticsRe: Sheikh AbdulRaheem Aduanigba Chief Imam Yoruba Of Ilorin Alleges Threats To Life by Moorish: 6:41pm On May 12, 2018
Cyynthialove:
Honestly, I am so ashamed of my Yoruba Muslim brothers . This is one of the reasons why we christian yorubas have openly disassociated ourselves from them because of the disgrace that have brought to Yoruba land.
Just look at this young imam, after worshiping the caliphate and struggled with all his might to prove to fulanis that he's a good Muslim, yet they are treating him with disdain. What a pity
These people are irredeemable, very useless people.
Spits !
christians are also zombies

arab slave vs jewish slave

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