₦airaland Forum

FBS:
What about accommodation. . .? I checked some website and the prices are WAAAAAAAAAAY TOOOOOOOO HIGH!!!
Have you any ideas concerning this?


Also have in mind that some folks will come with kids. Moving up and down with kids is a job on its own.

As far as accomodation is concerned, its insane right now so I can't give any tips.  I have friends who live in town so will obviously be bunking with them.There nare small B&B which will be cheaper than regular hotels, some hostel style areas and also will be huge areas that will be converted to tent like structures for fans who obviously have no accomodation and will probably be a charge to get one. Try to floow soem european chat forums for more details on that,  . preferably the british ones.

It's not advisable to come with kids if you are planning on running around to watch matches, however if you are coming more for a holiday and planning other activity hoping to catch maybe a game or two them its okay. (Note prices for everything will be 3 times as much, )

You might want to get more advise fromour resident South African (RSA) who would know a little more that I would.

FBS:
What if you don't want to watch other teams or just not interested. I think it would have been easier if teams had dedicated stadia

@Dis Guy. . .see below

There are going to be match viewing centers so you don't necessarily have to be in the citites where the game is being played.

You are coming for the experience as well. Cape town is going to be a crazy town which is why I have avoided there. the other stadiums around joburg are pretty close to each other for a 45min to 2 hour car or bus trip to watch the matches if you have tickets.

Dis Guy:
BBC

Where did you here that,

@FBS

you probably want to move this as well to the travel section. you might get more responses.

FBS:
Thanks kay_pumpin. I'd started to think no one actually cared to help NL-anders.

Yes you are right. . .our matches are scattered all over.

We play against Argentina in J'burg (Ellis Park Stadium)
Against Greece in Bloemfontein (Free State Stadium)
Against North Korea in Durban (Durban Stadium).

As you can see from the pic below, one has to travel to different locations to support The SE/watch our matches.
Heck I may just watch one of the matches. . .finito. I no too like stress o jare.

I have tickets for the Nigeria/Argentina game, Nigeria/Greece and some other African and european games in other stadiums as well

The stadiums in the Gauteng area are relatively close to each other per driving distance so one can catch games in this area. The only areas quite far away are Capetown, port Elizabeth and Durban which usually require flights if you are based in Johanesburg which is why I avoided games there.

Pretoria/tswana is about an hour away from Johanesburg
Rustenburg is about 2 hours away
Polkwane about three hours
Bloomfentein is about 4 hours way.
Nelspruit about 3- 4 hours away.

If you have a car it will be wasy to move around( road conditions are excellent for travel.

There will also be bus services shuttling people to and from games that are close to each other

The gau-train will take care of people in the Johanesburg pretoria area.

malaika:
@ Gallivant
omg you just brought back memories, I've been to Entabeni in the Waterberg and it's simply breathtaking! where did you stay - lakeside or wildside? did you also do the helicopter flip around the area? anyway thanks for these

The levels of white adoration on NL have just reached new and astounding heights, I know everything beautiful is the work of whites according to NL, but when whites get credited with beautiful nature you really start to wonder about the calibre of poster we have here on NL

you are quite right there. You should credit it to evolutionary cycles that created such scenary as a result of climate conditions in the southern tip of Africa below the equator line,

sssshhhhh!, how dumb do you take us for,

ziga:
@poster

Most Nigerians spend their vacation in Nigeria, some go to abuja, some go to lagos, some go places where they have families within Nigeria.

The few who travel out of the country for vacation do so because they can afford it. And its the same thing for people from other parts of the world that you used as examples. i.e europeans and americans who vacation out of their regions.

As for other african countries you have mentioned, a lot of Nigerians that can afford to go on vacations probably would not go there because its easier to travel to UK or the US for them compared to those countries. Easier in terms of getting a visa and making flight arrangements.

Also, these countries don't promote tourism, so you don't expect people to try to buy from you, what you do not advertise to sell.

So the real problem is tourims is not directed at other Africans in general because they expect that most Africans are too poor to visit their countries.

Now we are getting somewhere, ,

moderator please can you ban the below person for posting such offendive material

Sagamite:
Doing what?

i won't even dignify that question with an answer,

Sagamite:
The key point is that[b] that is almost the norm in SA[/b], you at best are talking about a rarity. With a Diploma in Nigeria, you will suffer on less than N20K per month.

You can not compare the challenges of a foreign economic migrant to that of a local citizen. Because most Nigerians in SA are struggle is not representative of the level of struggle for the local citizens.

What norm are you talking about? the norm for a foreigner that is semi skilled or the norm for a local citizen that has the same qualifications,

RSA:
Mr Mo what are you turning into now?

Are you still planning to come for the world cup.I still stand by my words,It will be an honour to host.And one of the thing that I want you to experience is a Joburg to Cape Town drive,1400 kilometers.And also we should do our villages and see Ubuntu at work.South Africa is not Hillbrow,Alexandra and all other squater camps where you find desperate poor people.There is more South Africa than what you read.

I know that by hosting you,and knowing you,I will have hosted Nairaland
.
You'll be welcomed with open hands.
Yes I will post some soon,I think I have downloaded plenty from Estern Cape,esspecially Qunu.Mandela's birthplace.

I appreciate your hospitality. I will be arriving with a group of Nigerians,a few cameronian and liberian football fans and we will be based mainly in Johanesburg trying to catch games in the adjourning areas of rustenberg,polokwane, Pretoria and possibly bloomfontein.

unfortunately  we will not be able to make it to Durban or the cape. The distance is too far by car or the shosholoza train and the flights are ridiculous at this time.

I might make it to the mpumalanga area again and possibly kruger national park but not for sure.

Trust me I have seen much of your country on several occasions and will always admit its beauty any day anytime. In my travels, I have seen its highs and its lows as well, however I don't like silly Nigerians who have never step foot in SA and are misinformed bout other complexities of the SA society or economy where it concerns Nigerians or the ones who live there and talk a lot of rubbish as well.

If my plans change as time approaches I will definitely let you know,

Oba234:
wow, I can't wait to visit South Africa this summer. I am studying abroad there there summer. South Africa is the best country in Africa followed by Botswana. People that denied that SouthAfrica is well advance than other african countries need to chill of that haterade juice.

AZZ licker!!!

Sagamite:
People with Diploma in IT? And that are making a honest living not looting public funds?

I don't even think they would get a Zain call centre job.

I know people without a Diploma who are driving e class mercedez benz without having to loot funds to do so. 

Most Nigerians in SA with the same qualifications are engaged in the same hustle jobs as they are here in Naija for your information. The difference is the markets and disposable income of the populous in South Africa are enough to sustain them. You don't expect the same odds when the Nigerian population is three times that of SA

RSA:
Now this is what I call a Nigerian swagger,in South Africa we will say this is AYOBA!

Jokes aside,Mr Mo. One question for you.

Do you think this mentality wich you clasify as
'The fight mechanism creates a resilient character who uses domineering aggression and arrogance to survive the flight mechanism makes an individual leave his/her environment in search of enviroments in which he has or can manipulate to create an advantage'
Is still relevent for Nigerians when they go to countries where law and order is upholded,or where the goverment is playing active role in developing its people?

Personally I feel it is very relevant to retain this survival mechanism only that it should be harnessed for the good and not the bad. No one is saying Nigerians should break the laws in any other country. In fact it is very evident taht once out of the hustle and bustle nature of Nigeria, most people adapt as most humans do to the enviroment in which they are presented and prosper. Its like nuclear energy, the correct harenessing of this energy coul illluminate the world but the wrong step could cause a disastrous catastrophe,

Because of the agressive nature of business in general(don't let anyone fool you business is very aggressive)for a Nigerian to become too complacent and docile renders him/her at a disadvantage in the world stage. The more obedient you are to a system that you unfortunatley do not control or do not have much say the more you will be disadvantged in the long run of things,

My two cents,

[quote author=1,2 link=topic=376796.msg5588100#msg5588100 date=1267154328]Then educate us, stop telling us that Nigeria is the best country in Africa.[/quote]Don't misquote me. I never claimed the above. What I did was explain the Nigerian swagga. You are the one not listening.

[quote author=1,2 link=topic=376796.msg5588100#msg5588100 date=1267154328]We want to learn more about this nation, thats what you should do. If i am educating you about South Africa, dont dissagree with me because i know South Africa better than you do. The problem with you morpheus24, you don't listen. You think you know every thing. Its like you've been to every country in Africa.[/quote]Actually I have which is why I have enough knowledge to express my viewpoint on what I have experienced and seen.

In regards education. I suggest you hop on the next plane and start visiting other nations as well and when you get there actually mingle with the local people and feel what they feel so you can understand what African life is all about.

The last time I was in your country I wasn't chilling in the fancy hotesl at sandton and surfing on the cape shores, rather you could find me in the townships at a local meat market in the evening mingling with the locals who were enjoying a cold beer and some T^shesa Nyama bro,

dondada1:
YESS BOSS

I have lived in this country fron the age of 19 in 2002, and it has giving me everything as a Nigerian,
my beautiful south african wife and a daughter and a paying job at HP south africa,
at the age of 22 with just a Diploma in IT infrastructure I drive the new C Class and live in a well furnished 2 bed appartment: if i was in Naija I would not have achived this much thus far; I dont think I would be where I am if i was in Naija.
This country has blessed me.Forget Europe. RSA is DA BOMB, no wonder the adverts say SOUTH AFRICA ITS POSSIBLE

Whats wrong with you. Lots of people drive the new c class and live in furnished 2 bed room apartments. Na only lagos wey you live in.

Please come to Abuja and see and I am not talking about Minister's children,

finemocha:
maybe if africa was safer then yes i would spend my vaca in africa. traveling is stressful, the options are limited, and im not carrying my backside to South africa where they are constantly shooting people for no good reason. plus they have white skin complexes there anyway. it africa, nigeria etc can fix all these problems then yes, maybe i and my friends can roll in for some fun. until then, cancun here i come

You are making excuses. How many tourist have you heard that died during their vacation to African countries from crime. If that were the case places like the desert festivals in mali, the sea sides of zanzibar, the ocean views of the cape and the islander destinations fot he cape verde would not be attractive.


just say you are misinformed and don't know where to go instead of all this gibberish about unsaftey and so on.

Abi you think them mexicans actually like you going to cancun

bandiejay:
what is there in africa to look? The Asorock? lagos Ibadan express road? kai? lastman? police taking 20naira? bar beach? may be am making a mistake somebody should explain futher what is there to look or may be Jos where hausa man will cut your head for suya

The post says Africa not necessarilly Nigeria. Haven't you seen exotic locations in Africa before. if not We can show you here.

gallivant:
and so much when it comes to African solidarity, "my brother"!

i am all for solidarity bro. just educating you on understanding how Nigerians thick,

[quote author=nice-guy10 link=topic=403489.msg5586255#msg5586255 date=1267125003]Poster, i know for sure that you are a black South African, can you post pics where Blacks Lives? Or better stil pics of Soweto town.[/quote]What;s the difference> we all know everywhere in the world has ghetto's, That;s not the point of the pic forum,

gallivant:
No.I am Kenyan and your earlier statement was uncalled-for.

Precisely my point. ,

benom:
@morpheus24
You kind of sound frustrated. I doubt if u are a nigerian cause we never get frustrated.

Just for the records, i am a graduate and an IT specialist. I work for Nigeria's biggest bank and I come from a very humble background.

You cannot excel when you carry the problems of 150 million people on your head. All i advice u to do is to stop whining like you a currently doing, believe in your capabilities as a true Nigerian (if u are one) and exhibit the rugged Naija sp4

4 ma guys in South Africa, Naija rocks and if u doubt it, then pay me a visit.

I am very far, far, far away from frustration bros. And the reason i asked if you were Nigerian would be if you truely were one you would realize the nature/nuture of the average Nigeria.

Most other Afrian countries are very small in number compared to Nigerias densely populated land mass. The population size adds to the event of continiuos struggle for limited resources amongst it populous thereby creating a survival mentality of fight or flight. The fight mechanism creates a resilient character who uses domineering aggression and arrogance to survive the flight mechanism makes an individual leave his/her environment in search of enviroments in which he has or can manipulate to create an advantage.(@ RSA this analysis for you is for free)




Much can be said of the average South African in analysis of certain behaviour types as well. On close examination of the average South African's boistruous nature in terms of music and dance one can deduce that this trait is ingrained as a result of culture and enviromental circumstance.

ever wondered why SA are the best singers in terms of Acapella?

RSA:
Yes I will also like you to elaborate?

@Benom I like how you think,and so far I agree with you on everything you said.Like 1,2 have said where have you been?

how many times will I continue to elaborate to you RSA. You of all people should know that 150 milliion people lef to fend for themselves in such a small, harsh, and constricting enviroment will develop a 'swagg" nature once they have achieved what they believe to be coined material success.

I will not analyze for you that fact anymore.

As for benom

you obviously are very young or ain't a naija person,

RSA:
I read somewhere where you said you are living in South Africa,let me tell you one thing,how about you go back to where you come from? Better one go back to you mother's womb D.i.c.khead.

Just keep posting your pics. There will be ignorant people till kingdom come.