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bawomolo:
yeah bestiality involves two consenting adults.

Even if it doesn't what harm is one doing to society if he sleeps with a goat.

None of anyones business. It should be legalized.

beneli:
@poster,

I don't think that we can honestly answer the question of whether Homosexuality should be legalized in Nigeria, without taking into consideration what one can call our own Cultural values. I know that this is a rather vague term, but things like taking care of our old folks who can't take care of themselves, respecting our elders, not french kissing in public etc would most likely tick the boxes.

'Democracy is, and always will be, flavoured by the 'cultural values' of those who practice it. And that is why the version practiced in the worlds largest 'democracy', India is most certainly different from the one you'd find in small democracies like Lichenstein etc. Culture is important and must never be ignored when we try to make those decisions that we think will make us to appear 'progressive' and 'democratic' in the eyes of those, whom we think are developed.

When we make the argument about 'consenting adults' , we should also bear in mind that a 21 year old brother having sex with his 18 year old sister is frowned upon even in the most 'democratic' of societies though they would certainly pass as 'consenting adults'. With regards to the issue of the role of genetics and environment, there is currently no conclusive evidence of what is what when it comes to sexual preferences and behaviour. People have developed the habit of quoting scientific articles that sides with what they want to believe in, conforms with the expectations of their funders or is not politically incorrect at the time of publication!

Without doubt, as a nation we are lagging behind in so many spheres of human development but if we will define our progress by the yardsticks set by others, then we will most certainly continue to lag behind. Having said all that, my opinion is that the issue of legalizing (or not) homosexuality in Nigeria, should not really be among our list of priorities as a people at this point in our collective development, anyway.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

This is what I have been trying to get through to some numskulls in here. I guess you did it more eloquently.

SEFAGO:
rethought, still no problem with homosexuality except that ppl get offended by it. Please tell me the consequences, i might be blind

You first , with Polygamy that is.

babzyshe:
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After Ghana, Nigeria and Liberia are the only full english speakin countries in the region. the assumption is that these countries will have better ties cooperation but such is not the case.

Bros I tire oh! The beef is becoming very un healthy,

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Kobojunkie:
Oh come on!!! Aren't we being overly sentimental and irrational here? The country has yet to mention anything about wanting to pull out of Ecowas. There is no mention of Obama in all this, so why bring that up?  It simply plans to re-address issues so it can gain more from it's relationship with foreign companies. Why condemn it in such a way? Shouldn't every country, even Nigeria, be working on similar ideas?

I notice you like to bring up the "SENTIMENTAL" arguement on most of your posts.

This is a very upsetting reoccuring trend I have noticed in many of your rebuttals.

don't you think we have been reminded enough of this inherent flaw only you notice in the rest of us.

Just my opinion ( Not an insult).

What have we done


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot89KNd9eDE

Gbawe:
Yes you would because you simply enjoy being contrarian without recourse to logic . You are never consistent with your argument or reasoning and that would indicate you just talk for the sake of talking or you just oppose the majority because you think it is intellectually fashionable to be that way.

You are always pretending to be equitable yet you are now backing Ghana's action , as a member nation of Ecowas, when the executive secretary of ECOWAS , Ibn Chambas, has criticised Ghana over this move !!! Simply Incredible !!! It is like a poorly informed individual backing the dismissal of a worker when the labour union involve has outlawed that dismissal as unjust and illegal.

I concur!!

They should hurry up and leave ECOWAS and aligned themselves with the African Americans whom they are dependent on Tourism for

When the shit hits the sealing , watch how they will change gear

"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible.

They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible." by Jomo Kenyatta.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YRQefxaLVg&feature=related

Remember what these Europeans did to your brothers in SOUTH AFRICA when they landed on our CONTINENT!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm1L0MHyBsc

jalether:
Everyone on this thread talking abt "self hatred" and "hatred of Nigerian women" should shut the f u c k up for real

yall might as well say the most developed country in the world is Nigeria, Super Eagles is the best team in the world

hate it or love it East African/Ethiopian chicks are the finest in the whole of Africa, and all other african and even American brothers

can testify to that, you guys should face the truth and stop being so damn patriotic

make you rush go marry them nah, who dey hold you!!

SEFAGO:
A man marrying more than one wife is illegal because of the[i] consequences[/i] of doing so in society. Bigamy/polygamy causes a lot of problems, and I dont need to outline them- they are pretty obvious, now what is the consequence of homosexuality? of course apart from going to hell, which no one has ever been to anyways so why not take the risk

Your response is very hypocritical in regards polygamy as far as it causing problems in comparison to Homosexuality as causing no visible problems as you say. Please rething that response and you will see both issues create problems within societies whether you choose to admit it or not.

IF no one knew Ghana has been working on this issue for a while. They are een adamant on breaking away form the ecowas union.

i say let them go ahead, no one knows what tomorrow will bring especially in in uncertain environment we call Africa

ChinenyeN:
But is it the only (or main) factor, in the case of homosexuality? That's what I meant by "gene or genes that code for homosexual behavior and tendencies". Is genetics the only thing that determines whether or not someone will be homosexual? I ask because far too many times, I've seen cases of homosexuals, both male and female, but the mainly female, who alternate between gay and not gay. In fact, (even though my sample population isn't all encompassing), the majority of gay people that I know are converts (for lack of better word), and they sometimes convert back and forth between gay and not gay.

I'll admit, I'm no genetics researcher, researching and studying homosexuality and genetics, but I've read up on the issue. I even have my own eye witness account, and with all that, I have seen no conclusive proof, or agreement amongst researchers that genetics is the [main] determinant of homosexual behavior and tendencies. So, I just find it hard to believe anyone who tells me he/she was born gay, or anyone who states that homosexuality is genetic. Reason being that all that I have read does not lead me to conclude such.

And I find it hard to take people seriously, who claim and conclude such.

physical or psychological outcomes are as a result of genetics and enviromental factors. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive in several cases.

it can be argued that the cell mutation that causes Sickle cell anamia is a result of continious exposure to geographical locations that carry the malaria parasit as it is evident that sickle cell carries a resistance to the parasite but likewise causes side effects to carriers of this particular cell mutation and manifests itself in the symptoms experienced by its carriers. A combination of nature "genetics' in response to "nuture' enviroment may be a clue to solving that riddle behind homosexuality so it can not be ruled out.

However I do understand your stance with people who consider themselves "bisexual" as I explained earlier there is a large spectrum to this "other" sexual affinity and some people who switch back and forth or who are not 'true' gays furhter exarcebate the issues complexities.

ChinenyeN:
Bawomolo, Accident of Birth is in regards to something that can be either beneficial, detrimental, or a "just is" kind-of-thing.

Omo_law-uk, so to summarize, you are basically stating that you believe that a gene, or a collection of genes exist that code for homosexual behaviors and tendencies in humans. Am I mistaking?

Why not genes pretty much determine a lot of our propensities

^ just wondering what reasonable indications does  neuro-anatomy give about other sexual deviants ie people out the defintion for "sexual norm" which include pedophiles,engaging in sexual activity with animals and the like.

The issue is not in the 'nature' factor of being gay as studies have also drawn me closer to understanding that there is an obvious genetic component which is why some mumu's hear don't understand the comparison of the subject matter to Hemaphrodites or people of similar order.

Legalizing homosexuality is a non issue, no body is bothered what people do in their privacy. homo or hetro. I haven't seen homosexual violence in naija compared to the states where there are more so called human rights.

Marriages btw homosexauls or any other 'sexuals" for that matter is not an inalienable human right.

strangleyo:
Egypt bleeped us blacks too. mess them

And the Iraqis.

Egypt aka Kemetians was black so rephrase your response.

Puleza:
Well said Rebarobyn but I hope things will change.

The sad thing is that most people here keep on refering to Xhenophobia without looking at it's scale. It happened toa couple of townships and that doesn't reflect the whole of South Africa. I have been a member of nairaland forum for ages and that shows the interest I have in Nigeria and there are other South Africans who are living peacefully with the Nigerians. The effects os apartheid will take long to be dealt with and the frustration of people not getting employed while the ANC promised that jobs will be created for South Africans have created the hatred of illegal foreigners by Souh Africans because they being hired over South Africans but againt the government should put in place stringent laws of balancing employment of illegal foreigners and the locals. I blame the government for Xhenophobic attacks especially the Thabo Mbeki regime which was only looking after their own interests and failed plenty of South Africans.

Yes, foreginers have experienced Xhenophobia but the same thing happens amongst South Africans as well in a sense of people from one province believing that only people from the dominant ethnic group in that respective province should get employed or even get free houses. At the moment there is a tense environment between Xhosas and Tswanas in North-West province of South Africa and all this is as a result of apartheid.

Thabo was educated in a capitalist society and saw the successes this system had in its enviroment, Please you should also add that during his tenure SA saw its highest economical success post Apatheid era,Equittabel land redistribution among wthnic groups that were disenfranchised the creation of a middle class black elite in the country as well as the and crease in the GDP per capita.

Yes there was a neglect of growing social tensions which led to a push for more socialist agendas to balance the equation however only time will tell if these agendas will actually strengten the nation of cause even more problems.

You can't solve poverty by simply giving the poor money to spend.

ow11:
I read on the previous page how a fellow I can comfortably assume is barely literate and is not ashamed to expose his ignorance to the glory of his stupidity in equating a birth defect to homosexuality.

That fellow deserves

You must be an expert on GENETICS. Please Kindly enlighten this ignorant illiterate brother of your superior intellectual definition on the difference btw a birth defect, a mutation or a possible genetic inherent orientation.

And then after tha address the other examples given as well.

If all you can do is drop stupid notes on here suggesting your obvious lack of understanding for either subject matter then I suggest to[b] SHUT UP![/b]

European:
CAPITALIST, WAR MONGERING, EGOTISTICAL, SELFISH, DEGENERATE, PROFITEERING, XENOPHOBIC, INTOLERANT, NEO ANARCHIST CAVE MUTANTS.

1. Nigeria is a capitalist society, dipshit.

That is about to end. If you haven't noticed the world is becoming increasingly socialist. I guess Karl marx is winning over Adam smith's theory.

European:
2. Africa is just as violent if not more than Europe. The worst violence seen in Europe was in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. Little violence has since occured
In afria there has been sustained and continued violence after the whites LEFT. massacres and some of the worst genocides have been omitted as reently as the late 90s. Europeans have always provided military and humanitarian assistance due to these events.

3. Being proud of the vast achievements, creativity and genius of whites is nothing to be ashamed of and is certainly not egotistical.

4. selfish, Africans survive by parasitically living on the necks of whitemen. we give you hundreds of billions in aid, foreign investment, charity etc. and you all us selfish.
5. Profiteering, so what ?

You better go join your comrades on stromfront with that recycled jiberish propaganda you keep feeding yourself, it won't help wipe away your guilt and the sins you have comitted on THE FATHERS OF humanity for the sake of prosperity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOAxow2Au8&feature=related

European:
6. We dont are how xenophobi we are we dont want you blaks pouring into europe in your hundreds of thousands, you desperately want to live with us, we just dont want to live with you. You would literally give your right arm to live in our white society.

read european public opinion and you will learn how you and you wretched race are most unwelcome in europe.

At least we are progressing, you refered to me as Black. Thats lot better aint it?.

By the way no one is stopping you and your kind from breeding with each other, if you choose not to associate with anything other than white europeans surely you are free to do so, just don't force that rightist conservative view of your perfect utopia down other free minded people's throats.

When your amargeddon race wars begin , don't worry we will be ready. WE ARE WATCHING YOU.

Morpheus says "IT IS INEVITABLE"