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Ha! Ha! Olabowale. You lost this one. You keep deviating from the point and coming up with excuses left and right when you know in your concience you cannot justify the killing of Apostates in your religion.

Your logic is the Christians do it, the Jews do it so what is wrong if we do it!!
 

Some Logic?

olabowale:
Meteorites are flaming darts thrown by angels at jinns to keep them out of heaven. True? They did not reach to heavens. That will be impossible. But they climb up to higher level, or station. The means that they use in addition to get closer was to mount on top or carry one another, in a link, whereby the rise up. That was before Qur'an was revealed. If you look into Surah Al Rahman, verse 33, you will see that they and men were only challenged to penetrate, if they can on there own, the zones heavens and the earth (between these two distinct places), the atmosphere, the space.

Allah says that they could not be able of their own, except if He permits it. This was long time before space explorations. Today we have space travels, shuttles and other unmanned crafts. But regardless how man can designs and devices, man will never be able to go beyond whare Allah permits.

Man will never be able to get to the first heaven, which is the closest to the earth!

These jinns overhead the message that Allah is one and had no wife or children. True?
This part of the question was treated, earlier. The point is that the evil one told his community, in order to lead them away from the truth the above. But the believing Jinn know better, as they became believers.




The Jinns stealing Information from the Sky before the the Messenger was sent and striking Them with flaming Fire after His Coming


Allah informs about the Jinns when He sent His Messenger Muhammad and revealed the Qur'an to him. Among the ways He protected it (the Qur'an) was by filling sky with stern guards guarding it from all of its sides. The devils were then expelled from the places where they used to sit prior to that. This was so that they could not steal anything from the Qur'an and tell it to the soothsayers, thereby causing matters to be confused and mixed up. If this happened it would not be known who was being truthful. Allah did this out of His kindness to His creation, His mercy upon His servants and His protection of His Mighty Book (the Qur'an). This is why the Jinns said,


(And we have sought to reach the heaven; but found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires. And verily, we used to sit there in stations, to (steal) a hearing, but any who listens now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.) meaning, whoever would like to steal some information by listening, he will find a flaming fire waiting in ambush for him. It will not pass him or miss him, but it will wipe him out and destroy him completely.


(And we know not whether evil is intended for those on earth, or whether their Lord intends for them guidance.) meaning, `we do not know if this -- the matter which has occurred in the sky -- is intended for those who are in the earth or if their Lord intends some guidance for them.' They stated this in such a manner out of their etiquette in phrasing their speech, because they did not attribute the doing of evil to anyone and they attributed the good to Allah. Verily, it has been recorded in the Sahih,


(And evil is not attributed to You (Allah).) It used to be that shooting stars (meteors) occurred before this, however it did not happen much, rather only occasionally. As was reported in the Hadith of Ibn `Abbas when he said, "While we were sitting with the Messenger of Allah a shooting star flashed in the sky. So the Prophet said,


(What did you all used to say about this) We replied, "We used to say that a great person has been born and a great person has died.'' The Prophet said, (This is not so, rather whenever Allah decrees a matter in the heaven, )'' and then he went on to narrate the rest of the Hadith which we have already mentioned in its entirety in Surah Saba'. This is what caused them to seek the reason for this occurrence. So they set out searching in the east and the west. Then they found the Messenger of Allah reciting (the Qur'an) while leading his Companions in prayer. Thus, they knew that this Qur'an was the reason for the sky being guarded. Therefore, some among them believed in it and the others became more rebellious in their transgression. A discussion of this has preceded in a Hadith of Ibn `Abbas concerning Allah's statement in Surat Al-Ahqaf,


(And (remember) when We sent towards you (Muhammad) a group of the Jinn (quietly) listening to the Qur'an.) (46:29) There is no doubt that when so many shooting stars began appearing in the sky, it horrified humans and Jinns alike. They were very disturbed and alarmed by it. They thought that it was the destruction of the world. As-Suddi said, "The sky was never guarded except if there was a Prophet in the earth or the religion of Allah was victorious and dominant in the earth.'' So the devils before the time of Muhammad had taken sitting stations for themselves in the heaven of this world and they would listen to the matters that occurred in the heaven.



But when Allah sent Muhammad as a Prophet and Messenger, they were suddenly pelted one night (with the flaming, shooting stars). So the people of Ta'if were frightened because of this and they began to say, `The dwellers of the sky have been destroyed.' This was because they saw the severe fires in the sky and the shooting flames. They began freeing their servants and abandoning their luxuries. So `Abd Yalayl bin `Amr bin `Umayr said to them and he was referred to for judgement among them "Woe to you O people of Ta'if! Hold on to your wealth and look at these guiding stars in the sky.


If you see them remaining in their place, then the dwellers of the sky have not been destroyed, rather this has happened because of Ibn Abi Kabshah (-- meaning Muhammad ). And if you look and see that you can no longer see these stars, then verily the dwellers of the sky have been destroyed.'' So, they looked and saw that the stars still remained, and thus, they kept their wealth. The devils also were frightened during that night. They went to Iblis and informed him of what happened to them. So he (Iblis) said, "Bring me a handful of dirt from every land so that I may smell it.'' So they brought it and he smelled it and said, "It is your friend in Makkah.''


Then he sent a group of seven Jinns to Makkah, and they found the Prophet of Allah standing in prayer in Al-Masjid Al-Haram while reciting the Qur'an. They drew near to him eager to hear the Qur'an, until their chests almost pressed against him. Then they accepted Islam and Allah revealed their matter to His Messenger . We have mentioned this chapter in its entirety in the first section of the Kitab As-Sirah with lengthy discussion. Allah knows best and unto Him is all praise and blessings.



(11. `There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary; we are groups having different ways.') (12.`And we think that we cannot escape Allah in the earth, nor can we escape Him by flight.') (13. `And indeed when we heard the Guidance, we believed therein, and whosoever believes in his Lord shall have no fear, either of a decrease in the reward of his good deeds or an increase in the punishment for his sins.') (14. `And of us some are Muslims, and of us some are Al-Qasitun. And whosoever has embraced Islam, then such have sought the right path.' '') (15. And as for the Qasitun, they shall be firewood for Hell.) (16. If they had believed in Allah, and went on the way, We would surely have bestowed on them water in abundance.) (17. That We might try them thereby. And whosoever turns away from the Reminder of his Lord, He will cause him to enter in a Sa`ad torment.)

I think you like to hear yourself speak jsut to convince yourself of most of your delusions.

I always wondered how Haldol chases away these Jinn in Mental patients when they say God is talking to them and they are on some sort of mission?

I am guessing the Jinn control the seratonin and dopamine producing parts of the brain.

samba123:
that a non sense idea you should think before you comment like this one

I know! I know before one of your brothers issues a fatwah on my head and threatens to assasinate me.

Mpele:
Where is the giant of Africa (Nigeria). Probably at no: 188

Jealousy is a terrible virus. Even worse that HIV. Chei!

elctroguru:
@babs 787, thanks Jare, I will advice you not to bother yourself too much on Morpheus24 ques because he'll never understand what u mean,

Yeah electro My guy, I am as ignorant as they come. When next you meet a genie that lives in a bottle and can grant you three wishes let me know, maybe I'll ask him to make me as smart as you.

Thats why some of you are crazy enough to fly planes into buildings.

dgreatrock:
hey guys, let's cool it down. we don't need to cast aspersions on each other over denominatons. what is important is to make heaven.

the point i want to make to those who know google so well and forget the word of God is, they should repent. any knowledge that contradicts the word of God is heresy. God's word is ultimate.

those support homosexuals and encourage lesbianism are only telling their parents that they knew nothing, and idiots for ever marrying to give birth to them

The point most people are making here is you should try to open your eyes a little wider and not ignore facts that are true and can be proven. For one stop calling your self an Anglican. It has no bearing on your salvation and anything your church is doing in terms of world matters like homosexuality is only undercover politics and power struggle. Can't you see that?

Angelheart:
Well Mpele, you are not my fav person but, you are right. The virus has been identified and like you always HINTED, its from west Africa. See below:

The mystery viral haemorrhagic fever which killed three people in South Africa has been provisionally identified as an arenavirus, the National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the Department of Health said on Sunday.

"The causative agent of the disease, may be a rodent-born arenavirus related to the Lassa fever virus of West Africa," NICD's Dr Lucille Blumberg said at the Charlotte Maxexe Johannesburg Academic Hospital.

She said tests done by the NICD and the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, US, indicated that the disease seemed to be a kind of an arenavirus. The World Health Organisation has also been providing technical assistance.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=79&art_id=nw20081012152218513C975048

Sorry guys I guess evolution doesn't favour you much. Its all that foreign ( out of Africa) blood you have in you thats causing your quick demise. Better start breeding with West Africans so you can at least have a chance on this continent anc come back into the fold other ise you are doomed to perish. lol

Mpele:
@ N guage

LOL! The reason we don't travel much is that we like our country so much. The thought of leaving my good old Suid Afrika gives me depression. In America there is no Rugby so i'll bored. In Britain the rugby is not as good as South Africa's. By the way all the things that the Americans and the British have, we also have them here. What's the reason of going to London when I have Cape Town.

Stop the f**%$ crap of saying Nigerians like to travel for fun. You're escaping your fourth world, fillthy, dustbin called Nigeria. Like all those neighbours of yours, nothing works there.

Oh by the way on the issue of us licking white people assess, shame! you don't know, these days whites are licking our assess.

The reason you don't travel much is because during apatheid those fools brainwashed you into thinking South Africa was the only civilised place on this planet. When animals are kept in cages for a significant portion of their lives if you eventually free them they will quickly run back into those cages not knowing what the concept of freedom is cause their poor minds have been enslaved far too long for them to realize the difference. Thats why your people are infected with xenophobicolisis.

From the words of the DR. DRE , and I am paraphrasing here "When animals are let out cages, its dangerous to people who look like strangers"

Angelheart:
Only 2 degrees?Hmmmm, Its not reflected in your posts though! Did you buy them?

Angelheart,

You've been hanging out here too long. I am beginning to think you have some Naija blood in you lol

Mpele:
Sad! He must rest in peace

Ode oshi, are you forcing him to rest in peace?

4 every nigerian killed on this planet 10 more are born and groomed to take over the ones who passed so console your souls my brothers/sisters. 150+ million strong.

Go to Onyibosonline to get info on expats my friend.

Oh and another thing, learn to use "OKADA". If youdon't know what I mean . You will.

bawomolo:
foreign affairs please. i see south africans have joined the good ole african way of gra gra politics.

Its cause deep down inside they have no one else to compare to as far as Africa is concerned.

You should be ashamed of calling yourself an Anglican being that the connotation for the word is Church for Anglos or English people. Are you from England , abi did your forefather form the church.

Please what do you mean by ushering in any revival. When the anglican breakaway was formed as a result of King Henry wanting to divorce and remarry and the Catholic church at that time did not condone such act or the breakways that followed because the church ws taxing the hell out of people at that time.

Where is the divine calling in that?

OH BOY I NO KNOW SAY PLENTY SA BOYS AND GIRLS FULL THIS FORUM OH DEY BLAST .

CARRY ON. THIS IS INTERESTING TO SEE ON A NAIJA FORUM

Against it. Another sneeky ploy by the US to interfere in African agenda to protect their interests. I say no. Let them spend the resources on something else. I don't blame Lliberia for giving theri support. they have no choice cause they are struggling right now and even though are aware of the implications are lending support to Africom which they might regret later on.

RSA:
And let me correct the statement that say ANC is spliting,ANC is not spliting,people who are formming this new party are people who where defeated during the ANC leadership election in Polokwane now that they lost on voteS feel that the new leadership is not the real ANC,they are sore loosers who want to govern forever.We gave them their chance and they did their best and failed where they failed,Now we have elected a new leadership which I belief will do much more and take South Africa to the next level,attracting new investors,creating jobs,offering a world class healthcare in public hospitals,improve our educational system,training our police force and providing them with best equipment and knowledge to fight crime.In short creating healthier,safer and happier South Africa.
South Africa will never be a ground where dictators and corrupt leaders are breeded,We have fought aaparheid for years without giving up,lots of people lost their lifes fighting,family where broken,souls where totured and we wont let anyone,even Mandela to mess our beautiful country.We owe this to ourself.

ha! you talk about corruption. i wonder why Zuma's financial adviser was hit with a 15 year sentence for accepting bribes from investors looking for lucrative contracts and you say you will never allow corrupt leaders in your midsts. You are about to vote for one next year. Watch what your precious zulu socialist will do once he gets into power.

The reason he is courting Mbeki to an active role in his campaign next year is to avoid the split which he knows will affect him adversely. I don't know why you guys can't see right through Zuma. He and his cronies will bamboozle you into thinking that he is working for the masses by creating socialist agendas when in fact his plan is to insert as many of his people into leadership positions which will bolster their pockets.

Mbeki was an excellent President post Mandela. The South African econnomy was quite stable during his tenure. His administration was overwhelmed with "entitlement" seeking organizations who believe it was their turn to reap the benefits without putting in the work for it and you accused him of being out of touch. You gusy would actually support a numskul who tells you he washed his privates after having Sex with a HIv infected person and thats all he needs to do to protect himself.

Let there be a breakaway party. In a true democracy the discourse can only bring improvement in the lives of the people if the true agenda of the parties are to serve the people.

Is this the end of the ANC

I say welcome to African politics my bros

Ya'll colores and whites better start advocation for your own country.

All hell is about to break loose.

I was back home for a few weeks and experienced the same. Light for 48hurs in a row , only took light for about 2 to 3huors thruogh the whole cycle. I can't believe it cause I kept on waiting for NEpa to take light and this is lagos oh!

olabowale:
@Morpheus24: Tell us then what ingredient(s) are Angels made from? Thell us what ingredients(s) are Jinns (genies) made from? We already know what human is made from; Soil and Water.

How can I tell you what they are made of, when I haven't seen one. Even in my so called dreams. Abi you have seen one and confirmed from he/she that they used fire to make them.

Okay if Human beings were made from water and soil. What are animals made from?

By the way am I reading it wrong, isn't there some mention of cloth of blood as human ingredients too?

babs787:
Salam all.


I am not trying to create a sort of enmity or castigate Christian as a religion nor ridicule Jesus because Jesus is a prophet of Islam and would always be respected anytime and any day but there is this thing that has been happening and I thought it would be better to nip in the bud and create awareness so that people would not fall for it again.

I am very sure one or two would have heard about stories on how Jesus has been appearing to some people in their dreams and telling them to worship him.

Well, we need to get to the root of it now and I could remember that one of my Christian friend here posted a link where some accepted Christianity as a result of seeing Jesus in a dream and we should ask ourselves, is that picture in existence really that of Jesus?

Well, there is Iblis who is referred to as Satan and was created from fire. This Iblis happens to be the leader of the jinn and I learnt that this Jinn lives up to 200,000 or more and those that doe young dies around 80,000 years.

They were created from fire, lives longer than human beings, have the power to transform to anything they feel like. They are like Human beings as well. They have believers (Muslims), non muslims etc and they come in different.

Jinn can take the form and shape of anything they feel like and travel very fast hence their creation from fire and as result of their ability to take shapes and forms, human beings think and claim that they saw their dead relatives in another country, state and location. There is nothing seeing somebody that died in a location, country or anywhere. Its the handwork of Jinn.

Now, this Iblis uses Jinn to carry out his work and these Jinn have men that they use in accomplish their aim e.g some white garment churches, alfas use them.

Insha Allah, I will create a thread on the life of the jinn and that of the angel.

Back to the issue.

This Jinn has the ability to hear words from Heaven prior to the revelation of the Quran and was chased when Quran was revealed.

With regards to the issue, is the picture of Jesus really Jesus? No far from that, Mary the mother of Jesus rejected it when shown the picture and the jinn said that it is what people believed that the use for them as Jesus.

Now, if they want to convert someone, it normally happen to Muslims. In a dream, they would put the picture there, shining light to it and would tell the person to worship and that would be his last chance.

The person would wake up and felt that Jesus spoke to me and would decide to 'jumb the fence'. It has happened to 2 people I know. One a friend of mine but he is now a Muslim and the other still a Christian.

I had to cut it short because the tory plenty. Muslims should please beware in order not to be caught unaware because it normally happen to those strong in faith.

Does anybody has any similar story to share?

You have quite a vivid Imagination of Jinns made out of fire and evil angels trying to decieve you. Don't you think your mind is playing tricks on you.

monkeyleg:
People, we really must let Mpele have his say, as Vile as it may sound. don't forget we are practicing freedom.

However Mpele I fail to see the benefit of your criticism. In most cases it is not constructive, but rather personal. You talk so much about the bad things that happen in Nigeria yet these same things happen in your country and even @ a greater magnitude.

Corruption, sickness, crime, Under-development are rife in your society, so why pick these failings in my country when they exist in yours. You may not like the boldness of Nigerians, but that is no reason to hate. Just like you said the Americans can be in your face, boastful and all that, but that is no reason for me to hate them.

I am glad you have pointed out the personal achievement of Nigerians, because boy we do excel in what we do. True we have not been able to achieve collective excellence, but boy it is only a matter of time. I personally do not hope for a SA that fails under black rule, but I will really like to see how you guys get on. Is it not a case that you are very much challeneged by the success of Nigerians, and the excellence they attain that you feel threatened? I can understand that if that is the case, and I suspect it is.

By the way the Ghanaians are great people and they see us as competitive brothers. No hate involved and both countries inspire one another.

Go back and re-evaluate your position, it really saddens me to see this Black - on Black hate IT IS NOT NECESSARY

That boy no BLACK oh!

RSA:
I apologise to all that I have hurt,It is just that it is difficult here to mention South Africa without being attacked.I was just showing you pictures of SOWETO,and what did I get?
Yes Nigeria played impotant role to most of the exiled people and we appreciate that.I think Thabo Mbeki who spend some of his time in Nigeria thanked people of Nigeria in parliamnet and on his visit to Nigeria on number of occassions.Mbeki worked very closely with Obasanjo and they created lot of positive things for Africa as a whole.
We are currently donating clothe,food,medical to people of Sudan,does that mean one day my grandson should mention that his grandfather was clothing and feeding Sudaness?

Aids,crime,xenophobiic attacks are happening in very poor places,people there don't care about relationships or who did what all they want is to survive and becuase of that you can't brush all of us with one brush.

As South African we love ourself and igbogolo I hope that one day you'll start loving your countrymen then maybe just maybe you will be happy for us for our succeses.Black man you're on your own

Continue your positive threads and don't succumb to some nigerians who think they know everything in this world. There are other people here who benefit from the exposure you are giving them

Ps I was not refering to you in any deragotory terms in my earlier post.

igbogolo:
MORPHEUS 24
People like you help foreigners to insult nigerians. Some little brat here said that nothing good can come out of Nigeria, calling us hippies and losers.
if nothing good can come out of Nigeria, what about the sacrifices we made for south africa back then?
do you think that you can live in the present without the ''past''? do you think relations are formed from nothing??
you are bold. very bold. you can hide under the protection of the internet to rant nonsense.

First of, the word "Foreigner" is foreign to me as far as Africans are concerned and I don't consider RSA or any other African for that matter as such so I ain't helping anyone insult anyone.

The person who said nothing good can come out of nigeria is a buffoon and I wouldnt' exchange words with an unintellectual of that sort.

We made sacrificies for many African countries including S. Africa and willing chose to do so without any outright request for compensation and even if i think the S. Africans have accomodated us for quite some time now.

What Nigerians ask for in any country is a fair chance/competition to succeed using the best of our postitive abilities and in return contibute constructively to any community we intergrate with because unfortunately our country doesn't give the whole 140+ million of us to do so in our own back yards.

We have to stop this "We did this for you so you owe us this." The people have their own problems to deal with post apatheid so give them break.

If they refuse establishment of legititmate Nigerian businesses in S.Africa then likewise I would accept baring or creating barriers for them from Nigerian markets but thats not whats happening so explain to me what you imply when you say we helped them, Do you want some sort of acknowledgment for that fact or you want them to pay us money or allow us to invade their country.

I am bold enough to correct my own brother/Sister when I think he/she is wrong if thats what you are implying

igbogolo:
Dear RSA,
I really do not wish to be drawn into this vacuous debate about south africa and Nigeria. I think you are pretty young, so I would like to educate you about your past.

My grand mother is 84 years old. She was amongst the thousand nigerian mothers that sacrificed their blouses and wrappers so that naked south african women and men stripped by apartheid regime in south africa had something to cover their unclothedness.
In your bile RSA, do not forget the historic role that Nigeria played( including providing assylum and food and education for SA activists and residents) who were about to be crushed by the south african regime at that time. Without Nigeria, south africa blacks would have had to endure the bitter taste of white colonialism a bit longer. I will paste Bothas speech on this forum later for your sober reflection.
The same Nigeria has allowed your empire to grow and nurture here without hinderance. Yes am talking about MTN and Multichoice all in her bold show of brotherliness.
Dear RSA, I so badly want to tell you to shove your puerile ranting into your ass. South africa blacks are an embarrassment. you blacks of no identity and culture need JESUS.
You dangerous and uneducated blacks of south africa are the most violent, insecure, HIV infested animals on earth. Do you think clean streets and electricity is all that makes SA better?
Do not worry about the nigerian statistics all over the world. we are an enterprising people that will shake the world when we awake.

Igbogolo,

What is wrong with you. Enough of this Nigeria helped South Africa during Apatheid. I am beginning to get sick of hearing that rubbish over and over again. We are living in the present now. Let the South Africans know what other African countries did for them during Apatheid but stop there.
Does that give any one of us any privileges over the South Africans? The guy is showing you a part of his homeland he is proud of. What is the insult there?

Naija. Una too do I too know!

The guy is right when he says he is a first class citizen in his country and has no desire to leave when most of us are overseas truly living as second class citizens. See how many of us are dying on the trip to europe so he has a point.


It is understandable that the S. Africans were isolated and have lilttle relations to other Africans pre- Apatheid but what is more unfortunate is that the first outright mass contact with their brothers was with "Nigerians" who admittedly are one of the most difficult Africans to deal with so don't blame them.

Enlightenment is the key and not this childish " I am better than you" shit.

ecomog08:
please i am schizophrenic. I need a doctor or someone who knows he is to post and lets share experiences.it is worst than aids because your body will not just sweet you at all and does it kill

if you are serious in your diagnosis then know the illness does not kill you. It however distorts your thinking process and you will tend to have delusional thougts and other associcated symptoms. Find medication that works for you and learn everything you can about your ailment as this improves your chances of recovery.

Also find a good support group and stay aay form people who don't help your situation.

Mpele:
I want to know why most of the people here are attacking me. Why does human nature allows people to attack others when they differ. I find it moronic that most Nigerians were attacking me, telling me about crime and Hiv/aids in South Africa. Is as if in Nigeria there is no crime. In fact in Africa and Nigeria there are so many illneses. In South Africa we are just struggling with HIV of which is a world wide epindemic. I mean in Asia there is so much HIV/Aids but hey no one is saying anything.

It is a shame that most Nigerians still say that the reason South Africa is developed is because of whites. Yes they played a part, but hey they're out of power but development is still taking shape under black rule. People speak as if when whites were working, blacks, coloureds and Indians were just sitting back. Who mined all the gold, who was climbing ladders and building tall buildings and stadiums that we have today, isn't it blacks. We're so different to other African Nations. When the chinese were building raliway lines and stadiums in East Africa they brought with them their own labour force. We suffered under apartheid and when it ended we didn't see a need to get rid of white people, why should we, not all white South Africans were racist.

We will continue to work hard to make sure that this country progresses. The few numskulls who went around beating up people do not represent even 10% of the population. What some of us were advocating was that there must be proper control of immigrants. People who come here to work or invest should be allowed to come in regardless of colour or ethnicity. People who're here just because some few leaders were given shelter in their countries and now feel entitled to come here and do as they wish are the dangerous ones. They'll cause havoc when things don't go their way.

Let me reitarate the fact that I don't have any problem with Nigerians and never will, the only gripe I have is the manners. Americans are brash and arrogant, but hey for them is not just all talk, no action. They're hard working people and just like the French they're allowed to be arrogant about it. Now here we have our lovelly friends, who talk too much and think that the world revolves around them. They look down upon other less fortunate countries e.g Ghana. The country is a bloody mess, nothing works. Lagos is like garbage dump, and now they're doing exatly the same thing to Hillbrow in Johannesburg.

Nigerians must learn to be polite then the rest of the world will take them serious. You don't have anything to back up your claims with. As they say most Nigerians are educated and armed with MBA's and other fancy titles. What's the use of having those things if they're not contributing to the advancement of your country. Zimbabweans are amongst the most educated in Africa and they used to boast to the South Africans about their education, where are they now. South Africa generally don't have the culture of reading, this includes blacks and coloureds who like casual jobs like working in shops, firms and mining, whites who like farming and Indians who're shopkeepers, but hey lifes goes on and the economy is growing.

Its high time Nigerians put their money where their mouths are. Its been more than 40 years of independence, but things are still the same.

The message is simple to you. SHUT UP AND GET TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a brotherly advice, take it or leave it.

RUBBISH TALK!!!! NO SUBSTANCE

Carry on!

Planner:
I am beginninjg to feel embarrases for condeneming Mpele, when he pourd venoms on we Nigerians. I am sure Mpele will be somewhere reading all th epost and be laughing his head off.

See Mpele before you start rejoicing, Zino Ben is not a typical Nigerian. He is just 0.0000001% of our Population. In fact he is lone ranger.

We Nigerians are smart, assertive, intelligent, outspoken but not deluded.

Why are you apologizing to Mpele. If he has been able to withstand the rain of abuses from fellow nairalanders and not disappear yer I vote we make him an honorary Naija boy.

Mpele:
@ grafikdon.

lol! couldn't have said it better I think 9th world would be better. That is why Nigerians are all over the world, they just can't afford to live in a lifeless country.

This is not an insult, but reality

Yes and we are about to invade your half kaffir ass too and turn you into a Nigerian by breeding out that leucoderm in you.

[quote author=dudu-bobo link=topic=170083.msg2785791#msg2785791 date=1221141493]I hate to admit this but you are right. . . and it is very painful[/quote]E dudubobo stand up for yourself. You can't allow this hatemongering zebra sway your intellect. He only pick and chooses what he wants to report.

I don't know of any existing colored forum for this raff riff to spout his xenophobia for nigerians/immigrants which is why you see him here.

Even if Nigeria became Africa's super power, which by the way we are not far from comparative to other African nations, that spider head will still find something to talk about cause he is filled with hate and prejudice.

he won't attack all the other immigrants who are robbing South Africa blind cause they are doing it under his nose. He will only attack a target he deems weak. Mind of an oppressed HOUSE NEGRO.