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Jkay187:
Morphy leave our children alone.

I am not holding them o!

JaceBlaze:
Pick a book and read and leave Google Wikipedia alone then we'll talk.

I have. A good one I can recommend to you is called the "history of Southern Africa" by Eric Walker.

Very good book.

Lets talk shall we.

^^^^

hahahahaha, That's your best rebuttal eh.

You know I am right, I dare you to rebut

MPSA:
Let me assist you here, Coloreds are mixed with different Races, Blacks, Asians and Europeans, I don't understand why you choose one group out of all races, Now I can see, You are not African and you want a piece of Land, Correct?

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Coloreds are a combination of different peoples that inhabited South Africa with a good amount of their African genes coming from the indigenous Khoi.

You are exposing your bantu education

MPSA:
Most of us we are light in complection but we aren't Coloreds, It is very easy to identify Black South Africans because of our complection, If you want to Believe your Colored Story ! May God Bless You Yes, We have Colored Community But we aren't all Coloreds


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MTOKS_mV3U

In your dreams you are light. Ndebele are Nguni and are not necessarily light skin, like wise with Zulu's as well.

Botswana's are not necessarily light skinned either, neither are tswana's. The lightest skinned people I have encountered are mostly Xhosa's and Sotho's but they are likely the most heavily assimiliated with the khoi who though African are fair skinned.

A large percentage of Khoi communities with mixed ancestry were incorporated into the Colored communites of the Northern and Western cape.

The gunukwebe's tribes of he eastern cape are literally a mix of Xhosa's and Khois

Know your history!

MPSA:
You are totally wrong, You must check the meaning of Coloreds properly, The Khoisans are 100 % Africans like Other Black South Africans (Bantu/Khoisans)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0cZNsJwIiM

According the DNA results the lady in the video is not coloured but very likely a mix of Khoisan and Bantu as South central hunter gathering groups include the san peoples of those areas.

Khoisan are 100% Africans but most coloureds are not 100% Khoisan.

Do you understand the logic above, if not don't waste your time.

JaceBlaze:
Herman never said he would be showering the citizens with free gibs,he vowed to clean the filth out of the CBD,and we are ALL tired of it.We must all be disgruntled and jobless then.

When he cleans those streets of yours, who is coming to reclaim all the loot, his DA capitalist gang. Who owned your CBD in the past, aren't they the same owners of seapoint, green point and a good portion of Bantry bay.

****shaking my head***

JaceBlaze:
So retort the Kirikiri slowpoke with emboldened ignorance.Most South Africans descended from the Khoisan people not Ngunis.Nguni is an umbrella under which Zulus,Xhosas,Ndebeles and Swatis belong just as Sotho covers the Tswanas,Sotho and Pedis.And you claim to be educated?

No you dummy who doesn't even know his own history. Khoi and san have inhabited southern Africa for the longest. Everybody else are late comers. This is the reason you are called Ba-ntu speaking peoples as opposed to Khoi speaking peoples.

All Bantu consisting of The Sotho, Tswana, Pedi and all other sub clans such as batlapi, barolong, bakwena and the Nguni peoples absorbed a good number of Khoi and san peoples that have influenced their linguistics and their phenotypes.

The only other group in south Africa with significant Khoi Ancestry are the "coloured" groups in the cape.

JaceBlaze:
So they "toppled" Xhosas just to vote for a venda speaking president whose language doesn't even remotely resemble theirs? Ramaphosa is from a minority tribe but he had a huge support in all corners of South Africa so your claims are pretty void right now.

There was resentment coming from the Zulu's on the well educated status of the Xhosa so that did factor in their populist support for Zuma.

Ramaphosa is still in logger heads with this Zulu faction.

JaceBlaze:
so what crowd is he pandering to?

Disgruntled, hungry, jobless, underskilled, entitlement seeking free loading SA's

JaceBlaze:
Perhaps!! personally,I have never claimed to be Pan African because I don't believe in forcing cohabitation with people just because of mere melanin.One has to act like an evolved human before I care share my space with them,so I guess we ain't pan African enough to let rejects who lack home training come all the way to do as they please in SA.To fućking hell with that...

1.The concept of Pan Africanism goes way beyond Melanin but no need to expand further, we know your position.

2. What evolutionary trait in humans are you pointing to. do you mean culture?

3. I am with you on sharing space. If you wish to live by yourselves then do so but tell your riff raffs to stop stealing and looting peoples things in the name of that. These are the less evolved humans you are defending.

JaceBlaze:
People like you are an embarrassment lol.When the argument doesn't favour them they always antagonise the opponent with false claims.point me where I said that I'm a DA supporter.It's like when weak-minded black people lose a debate with a white man,they always throw the race card into the mix to put a dead end to the argument...not gonna work here.

The accusation was merely that. I have no proof but there are subtle hints that allude to that conclusion.

JaceBlaze:
Too many building in Johannesburg are being revamped,but you wouldn't know that because you get reports from Kwarinpa journalism,I live far away from the CBD but every time I go there I see progress,it may not be fast enough but the guy is working.

Ahh maboneng and the adjourning areas. I have been, seen some of this. He is selling the recovered properties back to the highest white monopoly bidders after rescuing from the scourge. Capitalist formula 101. When will you learn?

JaceBlaze:
While you watch and counting 5 years don't forget the bigger mess created by 60 years of misrule in your country

There are many others watching that a whole 180 million strong, they are afford for me not to pay attention to that and throw my attention elsewhere.

Wena, don't be mad.

JaceBlaze:
South Africa does not have your level of tribalism,yes we do throw tribal humor here and there but you will never see South Africans toting machetes in the streets trying to kill each other.

1. That was not the question I asked

2. You do have tribalism in South Africa, subtle but none the less present, suppressed by the fact that a common enemy was fought in the past and so consolidation took place. Also coupled with the fact that technically you are the same people emanating from an Nguni ancestor with the rest having close relations as well.

3. IFP and its history is a glaring example. The toppling of Xhosa's in power by the Zulu led Zuma faction more evidence. The detest of minority tribes like the Shangaan and Venda more examples.

On close look you will see that most of the hostilities as far as tribes go in Nigeria are between the North and the South which have vastly different orientations which causes most of the tensions

The rest of the bickering among southerners is as subtle as the ones in South Africa. There has been no mass killings of one group on the south against the other, just mere bickering.


Educate yourself Bantu boy!

JaceBlaze:
If he was kissing kwerekweres' butts he would be put in the "WOKE" ,"Real pan-African" category but because he makes them uncomfortable with the truth he is illiterate.

its his city, he should enumerate what steps he is going to take to clean up the city and not pander to the crowd.


South Africans are not PAN African and will not be in a long time. too much isolation from the rest of Africa, as I have said your Africa begins in the cape with Jan and ends in Limpopo with the Venda.

JaceBlaze:
Psst!! this pretender,Herman has managed to take back buildings in the CBD that entitled kwerekweres have hijacked and been living rent-free for years.Under his mayoral leadership the police continue to raid hijacked buildings and deport illegal aliens,so if your misinformed utterings are an insinuation that he is just doing lip service to save face then only God can tell how far your ignorance has gone.

I always knew you were a DA supporter lol

Which buildings did he take back?

How many illegals deported so far?

Last I heard Hilbrow and the CBD are pretty much the same as they were.

JaceBlaze:
Malema has staged multiple Motion Of No Confidence against the Nelson Mandela Bay mayor shortly after the coalition with the DA,why has he not done the same with Mashaba? I'll tell you why...it's because even he can't deny that Mashaba done fairly in Jo'burg.He praises him.As much as I hate the pig in red overalls I have to give him the kudos for handing the reigns to Herman.

Malema has no time for Mashaba, bigger fish to fry.

JaceBlaze:
Yes!! we love him and your tears ain't gonna change that.Imbecìle or not,his patriotism is highly appreciated in his country .You do know what they say about opinions and assholes right!! you got one and so do I,the only difference is that yours is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT...as far as South Africa affairs are concerned that is

1. Relevance is a subjective matter, depends on context and situation.

2. I am not crying my dear, I am a watcher not a participator.

3. folding my arms waiting to see what happens in the next 5 years. I have time.

TMKsouth:
You are exhausting this. Not my fault if you can't read between the lines.

You are a waste of space.

TMKsouth:
For a Level 5 you fail dramatically to read between the lines.

EXPLANATION FOLLOWS HERE:

Rich people live in rich spaces. Your assumption Mr-Know-It-All-About-South-Africa (but living in a hut in far-away Nigeria) is that ALL black people are poor and live in townships. Our dollar-millionaire figures show clearly that there are blacks who can easily afford to live in those spaces. Even middle-class blacks (forget the millionaires) live in very smart areas. So keep fooling yourself about SA, you are the Level 0 and have proven it on may occasions.

like JaceBlaze told you - you pretend to know everything about anything South Africa. You know JACK!!

Your red herring will not help your level zero thinking.

How many black South Africans live in those areas you pictured Atlantic seaboard, Camps bay, Hout Bay etc. I didn't ask if they can afford them. There are Nigerians that can afford houses there. That is not the question.

Bantu education.

TMKsouth:
That's exactly the level 5 i was talking about. But if u so smart why is your country so gross?

Coming from someone who's longest journey is across the border to Gaborone, I can't take you seriously.

TMKsouth:
Ok, show me a white/asian Nigerian. You people are totally beneath them, they want absolutely no association with u.

Level 0 mumu. I don't need to show you anything. You made the claim, prove it.

TMKsouth:
Black vs white millionaires in South Africa
https://businesstech.co.za/news/wealth/121059/black-vs-white-millionaires-in-south-africa/


(2016)

New data published by advisory firm, New World Wealth, shows how the racial composition of South African millionaires has changed over the past eight years.

NWW defines ‘millionaires’ or ‘high net worth individuals’ (HNWIs) as those people with net assets of US$1 million (R14.5 million) or more.

The advisory firm said that racial wealth breakdowns are an important issue in South Africa – ‘many feel that the speed of wealth transfer to previously disadvantaged groups has been too slow’.

It noted that ‘previously disadvantaged groups’ include Black Africans, Coloreds, Indians and Chinese Asians (i.e. anyone that was restricted from voting prior to 1994).

According to the research there are currently around 17,300 South African millionaires from previously disadvantaged groups, which equates to 45% of South Africa’s total millionaire population.

You this level 0 thinker. Did I ask you the stats on SOuth African millionaires. I asked how many black Africans live in the area "Waterfront" or the Atlantic seaboard you posted that is attractive to the Nigerians.

Level 0 mumu, pay attention.

JaceBlaze:
What he is to you doesn't count cause you don't matter,

This doesn't change the FACT!!!that he is an illiterate in power. I am merely making it known. Do with it what you please.

JaceBlaze:
South Africans seem to be fond of the guy for his unfiltered truth about the kwere filth in the CBD.

He is playing to the gallery because he is trying to differentiate himself from the ANC and increase his popularity, no more. Not one sensible solution has emanated from that gap in his face.

JaceBlaze:
Remember when I told you that you only pretend to know South African politics? I was right afterall.Herman became a Jo'burg mayor through the DA/EFF coalition,which means even Malema approves of the guy's position,hell he even praised him for the good job he has done in the CBD.This is how you know that him (Malema) claiming to be a "president for all Africa" is just mere smokescreen.We love Herman and there is nothing you can do to change that.

Malema was trying to frustrate the ANC which is why he agreed to the coalition with the DA to allow Mashaba in, it had no bearing on his ability to govern and you know this.

Like I have said, listen to that monkey face and all he does is highlight the symptoms and forecasts doom, nothing upstairs.

He speaks like a goat with his googling eyes at the camera with no articulation.

You can love who ever you want. Even an slowpoke needs love.


Hail the great Herman
To hell with entitled kwerekweres [/quote]

TMKsouth:
1. Kenyans, just like Nigerians, hate each other. So tribalism and xenophobia (same WhatsApp group).

Point to a country in Black Africa that doesn't have some level of tribalism.

TMKsouth:
2. Fix Nigeria first before lecturing me about Level 5, globalisation and my bantu education. If indeed Nigerians were Level 5 I would be skipping borders to emigrate there coz your country would be so fantastic.

1. Level 5 in intellect you Bantu educated duance.

2. Nigeria is currently being fixed. At what rate, well that's the part that is debatable.

3. The assumption that South Africa is fixed simply because your kind attained political power but are still suffering the same symptoms of apartheid is foolish reasoning. This is the reason you are at level 0

TMKsouth:
But no South African (no even a single one) wishes that for themselves. Instead you are here begging for my acceptance so you can come chill in Joburg and Cape Town.

Just as all the other Nigerians you are deluded.

1. Who is begging you to come leave with you in Joburg, me. ****Never*** in Julius Malema voice.

2. You are not emigrating because you will not survive outside of our enclaves. You are not experienced to do so. The whites in your country on the other hand know very well how to straddled worlds and are able to exist in different areas around the world amassing wealth and bringing it back to your country to continue to subjugate you. Even the dreaded Nigeria.

3. Like I said when you get to level 5, we can talk.

TMKsouth:
Stay in your own countries and fix them yourselves. That way you will stop begging me to accept you.

You need to say the same to every other non black emigrating to your country so you are fair, no?

TMKsouth:
This is what attracted them Don't act like you don't know SA ROCKS!!

How many Black South Africans live there.

Do you have stats?

TMKsouth:
Weren't you also colonized baboon? Today not a single white person claims Nigerian citizenship because you f*uckers are world-renowned despicables.

Where did you source this information from, or do you just open your mouth for the sake of it?

JaceBlaze:
And they went to pick them up in silence because they were in Libya,Lord forbid if it was in SA,all the news media platforms in Nigeria would have been in full effect sensationalising the situation.

The extra coverage is simple to explain. Xenophobia since 2008 without end.

JaceBlaze:
Johannesburg's own Napoleon


he just echoes the thoughts of 54 million South Africans and we love him for that

You know that guy is a DA illiterate put there to frustrate the ANC in the governance of Gauteng.

He is a monkey faced clown who everytime he opens his mouth cause chaos rather than order.

TMKsouth:
Our government is foolishly buying into this African unity bull. Why should SA absorb all the millions upon millions of you people from failed states? Why is that our responsibility? Don't you have governments of your own and why are you failing to hold them to account?

Anyway, now they have an excuse to chase your raggedy as***s outta here - WE THE PEOPLE have spoken.

Kenyans house refugees, no madness

Tanzania houses refuges no madness

Uganda house refugees no madness

We have heard you loud and clear, now tell your government to make it official, remove all "Black" foreign nationals out of the country and close your border.

A student of world economics understands the consequences of protectionist measures. Globalization forces all factors of production to move where they are the most efficient. I am not saying this is the case in South Africa but bantu education hinders your mind from thinking outside of the location you reside in so I cannot communicate with a small boy at you who is at level 0.

When you get to level 5, call me

Olodo!

JaceBlaze:
Whatever,Morphy!!! who said opportunists only see monetary gain from every situation? he is elevating his ego,plus diverting attention of Nigerians from the real reasons why Nigerians are suffering (thieving politicians).Yeah right,300 million spent naira spent on only 600 Nigerians is quite a lot for an airline that is supposedly not making profit don't you think?

Like I said you know nothing of the man. He does not need to elevate his ego. He is a very religious individual who's ethics speaks for itself in all of his actions through the years. He did no make his money from aviation and was a multi millionaire long before he floated that airline.

He is not part of the political class of Nigerian and is self made like most of his brethren from his particular part of the country who are known as innovators.

And yes, it does cost that much in terms of one flight to and for just jet fuel wise.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQt0TzZA1_k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85KqhKkYB0

JaceBlaze:
Where was this heaven sent good samaritan when Nigerians were being stripped off their humanity by Libyans who had them in shackles and auctioned them into slavery?

Different circumstances and in that particular case the government was actually active in repatriating Nigerians in Libya. They had send several envoys to go pick them up


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBTnh0KsRL4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDpeGkqQO8Y


But

JaceBlaze:
Bantu education products still reason better than under tree pupils in West Africa.

I beg to differ. An under tree pupil can probably name all the capitals and countries within their continent. Your people at best would only be able to name the provinces.

kgr28:
Yeah. It's hard.....cant you see. There are laws idolo clever. We allow people in the country that we thought are gonna make a difference kathe they are fuckkk-ups.

So the Nigerian doctors, teachers, engineers etc are not making a difference abi. You can only see the ones in Hilbrow abi?

There is nothing hard in parliament enacting laws. The ANC has the majority.

kgr28:
Tell us how they should do that and why your mules can't take themselves back cause they got here by themselves.

The mules will go anywhere they are allowed to go unrestricted.

Your government is busy stuffing their pockets with your money that they can't deploy resources to Home affairs to do their job.

All they need to do is pass laws in parliament and deploy funds to home affairs to stop issuing asylum papers and work permits to foreign Africans.


They can raise this capital by penalizing companies that hire illegals, migrants and poor foreigners, beef up police force and aggressively attack drug cartels.

Have you asked why they haven't done this.

Olodo bantu education!
Is that hard to do?

TMKsouth:
The one we had under Mandela when you mules started flocking here in your thousands turning our cities into disgusting Lagos.

Tell me why your government can't send these mules back.

Do they lack the capacity

Hmmm?

Lionessza6:
Judging from posters from both Nigeria and South Africa on this forum , i am forced to believe that whatever educational system your grandparents , parents and now the new generation received was more detrimental than Bantu education, afterall Bantu education did give us great thinkers like Bantu Biko and the Mandelas of this world. I have never had the misfortune of interacting with people with the level of retardation as the ones I encounter here , so your " superior education" is laughable . Go through nairaland for 30 minutes , you will see what I'm talking about .

I can only speak for myself sweety. I don't know who you interact with on nairaland. Aren't you usually in the romance section, those people are soft in the brain.

Biko and Mandela were not limited in intellectual capacity by Bantu education. They are the exceptions.

Lionessza6:
LMFAO, you can spin in it around all you want . No person without any psychological damage would want to out of their way to bleach their young children for fashion ,wtf?. It's a sickness and very serious one that you should all be concentrating on as it affects millions of you, no wonder some of you sound more like white supremiscits online . Self hate is a disease lol.

You are speaking with no evidence.

If bleaching gives one social status, name the people who have succeeded in achieving this as a result.

If bleaching is as a result of wanting to be more European, name the instances this is demonstrable with the Nigerian context.

Lionessza6:
No matter how much you share in common with Ghananians, you still use words like " charcoal " " kiwi" etc not in a friendly manner but out of spite , this my friends speaks volumes . It's not just Ghana, Kenyans as well , you have deep psychological scars , deal with them instead of running around making excuses. I have never seen people from these countries insulting you using "racial "terms like " You are too black and ugly " . These comments are am every day thing on nairaland and everywhere where there are a lot of Nigerians.

Over half the people in Nigeria share the same skin tone as Ghanaians, tell me why there is not a similar abuse of colorism within Nigerian society itself. You know nothing young Padowen.

Lionessza6:
LOL, you didn't have any settlers who "taught " you violence, why are you so violent amongst your own ?. Why do you have so many of your women burning and beating down their housemaids ?. This is prevalent in your society by the way . Why do you have so many young men ready to butcher each other over cultism and such shyt ?. No settler caused you any psychological damage " make you violent ", so the conclusion is that you are naturally violent people. The war that took over 3 million of your own by your own was another good example of your last for your own blood. The " ritualists " leaving dead bodies all over your streets is just one of the examples of your love for violence. The hersdmem who butcher innocent farmers like it's a game of soccer is another one. My man stop deluding yourself. You are simple trying to feel better about your own shythole issues at our expense, more like projecting. You have a lot of depraved killers amongst your own , the only difference is that you use your sword on people that no one outside of Nigeria cares about ( fellow Nigerians). That is why not even your government cares to have crime stats.

LMFAO , at least 600 years you . The close to 800000 left behind must be the violence loving ones I guess lol. What you guys should be doing is forcing the government to close the embassy and break all ties with us, clearly the relationship is not working out . Since you are the ones affected by this, you should take all the necessary actions to save your people from us . Ranting and raving like lunatics on social media every time this happens makes you look like pathetic homeless people.

1.The examples you point out above do not negate the fact that you are a violent people, it simply is a red herring.

2. I do want the government to severe ties with South Africa completely. You cannot force cooperation amongst people that have divergent histories simply because they share the same skin tone. Russians don't love Americans do they?

3. Nairaland is medium to dissuade people from continuing to flood South Africa so I am doing my two cents to stop this from happening.

IronGalaxy:
I agree with the mayor

he's an illiterate puppy of the DA, heard him speak several times.

his articulation of the issues are poor.

TMKsouth:
They've introduced bribery to the police - that's why communities are taking the law into their own hands. We're reset-ing our country and going back to the SA we were once proud of.

Which SA were you proud of. The one where you were restricted to location?

The one where you could not be in certain areas after 8pm?

The one where you couldn't travel out the country with a South African passport?

You are not resetting anything. You have been introduced to the 21 century and globalization and you cannot handle it so you are running back to what you know best.

Burying your head in the sand.

I laugh in Zulu!

nairalandposter:
That's just the main point here.

Is it not possible to control the flow of emigration?

I know Nigerians won't agree with this, but we don't want all doors shut to us. Other people also need their space and sanity.

South Africa is white monopoly capitalist that will seek the cheapest amount of labour it can attain to maximize profits at all costs.

Their government is powerless against this "capital power" and so cannot monitor, penalize or restrict these cheap labor transactions. the government also have to negotiate taxes with these powerful entities who wield so much capital to the extent that they will not attack the head of the beast.

instead the most vulnerable class, the economic migrants will be vilified and demonized and the government will shift the peoples attention there as the main source of the problem.

Capital is allowed to flow freely en mass into the country while labor is not because labor is the weakest negotiable factor of production.

Pass laws to restrict emigration

Pass laws to repatriate migrants

Pass laws to screen asylum seekers.

pass stricter laws to curb illegal activity

Nope, they will be in parliament talking about scandals left and right.