₦airaland Forum

sleekking:
Some of you Igbos think you have the sole license to mock and rejoice over the misfortune of people from other ethnic group, but start whining like a child (that you are) and playing victims. You people divided this country with your hate campaign along side the despicable oaf known as Patience Jonathan.

Tribal emotional bigotry with no use of reasoning behind it.

The article is about a "Nigerian" who died in South Africa, until Nigeria becomes no more, the individual mentioned by law and by jus soli is a Nigerian.

Shikena!

Citizenshelm:
Nigerian Union in South Africa (NUSA) has alleged that a Nigerian teenager has been shot dead in South Africa, Igbere TV reports.

This comes after the Deputy Director-General of the Chartered Insurance Institute of Nigeria (CIIN), Obianuju Ndubuisi-Chukwu, was reportedly strangled in her hotel room in South Africa on June 13.

NUSA President, Adetola Olubajo, said on Monday that the victim, Chinonso Obiaju, 17, a high school student, was killed in Johannesburg on Saturday.

He said the deceased student lived in Roodepoort, Johannesburg with his guardian.

Mr Olubajo told the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) on telephone that his guardian, Mike Nsofor, said he was shot at about 6:30 pm.

“He went to buy from a shop with his friend and someone chased and opened fire on them, killing him,’’ Olubajo quoted the guardian saying.

He added that the family would be burying him in South Africa and that the union’s leaders in Johannesburg would be contacting him on developments.

Olubajo said they were going to the police on Monday to finalise on the registry and provision of his papers.

“He was born here I learnt and the Mother is in the U.S. I have spoken to Mike Nsofor to pass the Nigerian community’s condolences and call for justice to be served in this case as anybody who hunts down a young schoolboy couldn’t have any justifiable reasons,’’ Olubajo said.

He implored the Federal Government to urgently protect Nigerians in the Diaspora.

Source; http://igberetvnews.com/?p=836010

This article is somewhat inciting. There is no evidence that the individual was shot by a South African nor is there any preconceived motive pointing to the suggestion that the killing targeted a "Nigerian" in particular.


how is this news different from a Nigerian killed in Nigeria by SARS operatives during one of their raids or the death of Eniola Aluko shot dead in London.



Hmmm?? Una like find trouble

Tunagee:
My wife started behaving strangely immediately I lost my job in April 2017. She leaves home to her mum at the slightest disagreement without even communicating or making to express her feelings; and to worsen it, her mum gives her a great welcome with a room and parlour for her to stay, without even calling me to discuss what the problem. Whatever her daughter says is always the final, and she concludes on that.

My wife literarily destroyed my image before my in-laws to such an extent that I can't even visit them again. She tells them i insult her and her parents, and i make negative remarks about them, that i abuse her verbally at the slightest provocation. Several lies against me that I did not allow her travel out, I don't give her money, I told her not to have another kid, that I told her not to work, her mother has decided to keep her with her as I speak without even calling me to discuss, even despite all my appeals. She has been with her mum now for almost ten months(my wife is a fully grown legally married faithful woman of almost 40 years)

All these disrespect, probably cos I lost my job two years ago of which I fulfilled all responsibilities to the home. i don't drink, i don't smoke, don't womanise(even till now) I have never beaten her, I never another child out of my matrimonial home, and never impregnated another woman.

Rather than resolve her marital problem by discussing with her husband, she takes it to her family claiming emotional abuse. Fine, I agree I get provoked cos of her persistent shortcomings, and of course, frustration which leads to unguided vocal utterances towards her, but this could have been resolved easily without having to involve her whole family. Now what she keeps telling my family is that her family said she should still hold on at her mum's place. This is the 10th month since October 2018.

The last time my mum went to her mum's house precisely June last month, she was asked if she was still interested in her marriage, and she said yes, that she does not intend leaving her marriage; but we should give her time. Her mother practically told me to go and do something meaningful, and that there is time to marry, separate, reunite and hustle. Her mum is the one controlling her movements and everything about her for now; not even giving her room to give me audience.

Pls advise on what to do.

We are legally married.

Bros marriage is not by force o, forget all these religious edicts about God say this, God say that. When woman don tire, she don tire na only plenty money fit bring am back

Success is the best revenge and revenge should be best served cold.

Up your hustle!

Why he dey vex, even me sef no dey pronounce Yoruba names properly

Amujale:
Hussein Bolt is the Jamaican that holds the world record for the 100 metres sprint race.

Most arent taught about the Trans Atlantic horrors, its Colonisation rather that Western education teaches.

Beause of the great carpet destruction of evidence in major continental cities & libraries, we have been forced to believe Eurocentric versions of history, not anymore, our historians have proven them as being fake, false and unreal.

Continue to educate those that arent aware that the evils of Colonialism is not disconnected from the evils of the Trans Atlantic campaign.

The same way i would say to you that the evils of the Trans Atlantic campaign is not disconnected from the evils of Colonisation.

Re-educate yourself on African history.

Never forget that we are all one big family.

It's inevitable that African diaspora will be given their proper continental rights i.e citizenship, trade, work e.t.c

Given that the talk is about those of them that have been found to have passed the necessary requirements and shown to being law abiding citizens, then, they should be allowed to qualify for a citizenship of the African nation of their choosing.

You haven't fixed the Africa you are living in and you are inviting African Diasporans living in semi better structures.

I laugh in Hausa!

JaceBlaze:
Hmm I guess you were humbled by how worse Nigeria has gotten since then as far as economy is concerned.The green pastures are in Ghana today,so you guys are now forced to use your tiny brains before you lay a finger on anybody from Ghana

Grass grows green everywhere. Your experience is what determines if you feel the pastures are greener on the other side.

PS. Nigerians usually have bigger heads compared to South Africans so I doubt the brains are tinier than that of your people

JaceBlaze:
Are you saying that "Ghana must go" sequel might be loading?

Anything is possible but as far as that is concerned, that saga has ended and is a non-issue at this present time.

JaceBlaze:
Muh Broda,wetin nonsense dey talk? have we ever had issues after Naija vs South Africa soccer match?

We move on quick down here,sure we were aiming for a win but we were beaten fair and square but losing a stupid soccer match can't be the biggest issue in South Africa right now.It's actually an insult that with so many socio-economic issues in the country someone thinks that South Africans will take their time off that and start hunting and killing Nigerians because they won a stupid soccer match against SA.

Past actions are an indicator of possible outcomes in the future.

JaceBlaze:
I just hope that no Algerian man will be shot dead "hours after this AFCON clash"

We don't role like that, no pent up anger issues of that sort.

Nigerians and Ghanaians for example can be in the same space and watch a match against each other with no aftermath.

I doubt that is likely in a SA vs Naija match where there won't be some sort of issue afterwards.

XhosaNostra:
Yes I choose not to discuss it further. If you have an issue with that, sue me. Bye. Nuisance!

No issue, just pointing it out

XhosaNostra:
Luckily for me, I don't care how you choose to interpret that gesture. It's simple really, it means you bore me & I'm not under any obligation to continue with your prattle.

No one is forced to engage in discourse on this forum, very true. This statement is however a red herring on your part.

You asserted the claim, presented some evidence of its validity but now choose not to defend it when in contention because you say you are bored, so that you choose to ignore is neither here nor there.

XhosaNostra:
Yawn.

you can yawn all you want, that's neither a reasonable response nor does it lead you to any constructive conclusion. It is a mere gesture.

Shikena!

Ybaby:
Muscle does not solve any problem now. Puffing up and down doesnot solve any problem, a man who cannot provide for his family is an infidel says the holy book.

Do you think the girl is happy to go and look for a provider for her child while the child's father is alive. Use this anger to make money. The only supremancy is money - he who pays the piper ? dictates the tune. He does not have money to pay piper so the tune is for the step dad. it hurts but the only solution is to understand that as a young man you have a financial clock and get to work making that money - even your mother will not respect you if you cannot provide for your child. curse all you want or provide or keep your peepee away from women.[/quote]Nigerian values are no more. We are a doomed people for real. See what an improverished society has led people to ponder.


SMH in shame!

Ybaby:
Where did I mention the court? I am not talking about the law. I am talking about this 15k man's ability to feed and clothe his own son.

The matter on ground is not that they are stealing his son. It is that he cannot provide for his son. Don't let him hoodwink you. If you want to help him - get hima skill, a job, a hustle etc

Let him send 200k worth of baby formula and clothing to the mother and see of he will not be allowed to see his son.

It is not by sperm - without the right nutrition that child can become retarded. To put it bluntly this man is too boy to raise a child. He keeps saying she left him because he is a pauper then why cann't he fix his poverty. Go and get some money biko then fight for your son and impress the mother.

I feel sorry for his ego but he can fix it by getting money rather than this pity party he asked us to organise for him.

Again find below some costings for a child. Please be guided before you insert your peepee and litter the earth with kids to struggle. The human race does not need more hungry kids..... biko.

To whom it may concern.

It is essential to provide for your offspring however if you believe this is the only thing necessary for the well being of a child's psychology then the society you live in in regressing faster than you even realize.

Lovelyn451:
U didnt pay bride price on the woman so u have no right over the child...find a good lawyer though

SMH!

A natural right supersedes a customary one.

The boy is 50% of one parent.

Olarewaju89:
Oga, leave that Pekin go hustle for money abeg. When the Pekin grow, him find you by fire by force

@ poster , do not sell the life you can have with that boy no matter how little for money. You can balance both out but do not sell one for the other.

Ybaby:
15k cannot do nothing for that child. How much is baby food? How much is daycare? etc

I will be honest with you - allow that rich man to look after that child biko and try and make money - take courses, hustle, get a job etc.

A child belongs comes out of who? the father or the mother?? it is who a mother gives her child to that is the father. Ok!? No one is sure who thier true father is - it is whoever your mum tells you is your father that is your father! Ok!?

Get money before you try for another baby with the next lucky lady or that one too will give your child to the highest bidder.

Most woman don't know babies are expensive until they have them - a mother's job is to do what is best for her child. Try and understand. Go make some money.

I have included prices of baby things below - does not contain school fees. He is mine is not the point here - It is can you give him a good life? You need to man up it is not about sperm. Once a child is on earth it is about provision. People will say otherwise but don't let anyone trick you. If you love that child you will let the rich man adopt him and use your ego to make money. Your child does not need your love as much as he needs diapers and formula

The truth hurts and I am sorry

This is not truth it is a warped sense of what you actually believe to be truth, plus you are not sorry for him, why would you be.

Your write up is really from the perspective of someone who is really illiterate in law or the practice of it. This is why Nigerians will claim intelligence yet haven't turned on all the faculties in their brains yet.

This is the reason we have courts that can carry out DNA tests to determine paternity, even if he is not given sole custody he should never allow another parent usurp his rights away as given by man/law and by nature.


@ poster, fight for what you want no matter the cost, you will be able to look yourself in the mirror as an old man with no regrets. Trust me on this, people often tell you to take the route with the least resistance.

Lionessza6:
. Dude .

How was I roasted ? . Can you provide me with a screenshot of this roasting ,?.

Don't get me involved in your tribal mess . My post about the guy still stands, he is one of the few people on this forum who seem to understand what nation building is about and that it starts from within and spreads out . Most of you are always willing to fight yourselves which makes you easy targets for outsiders. But what do I know?. Sigh !.

1. For the record, I don't remember roasting you.

2.You seem to revert to tribal issues concerning Nigeria. A fact but none the less a symptom of our history as opposed to yours which necessitated a coalition of tribes/clans in your country which cannot be in anywhere comparable to the complexity of ethnic identity in West Africa in general. Your country has a smaller set of Ethnic groups who are pretty much offshoots of the same people with mutually intelligible languages and culture which fosters a better chance for cohesion especially when faced with a common enemy.

3. The tribal argument on your part should be dumped as a defense or rebuttal because that is far more complex in our region than yours.

Shikena!

lexy2014:
Keep ur emotions in check. Am not moved by ur insults & foul language. I have shown u what u said. U cant go back to check anything cos u are busted. U only succeeded in shooting urself in d foot. Am really grateful that u provided that screenshot cos it only confirmed what I said earlier that south Africa discriminates its fellow Africans. All this emotional outbursts doesn't change d truth as said in d report. U can even c that d report countered d lie u told that African immigrants "forcefully" build illegal structures "everywhere" in SA. Maybe u should read d report a bit more so u can c how ur lies will float to d top.

I have noticed that Xhosa nostra is fund of wiggling his way out of his assertions when asked to explain or defend them by expanding further into the logical steps that took him there.

Hmmm

XhosaNostra:
That would still make it your opinion. Why would it have the highest death toll if it were simply skirmishes & why do we still have the mass graves? Puhleese. You're the one twisting things around. In South Africa we don't cower, papa. So don't project your cowardice on the nation of fearless warriors.

Data is one thing and an inference on Data is another thing.

The number of deaths in your "100" year war is a function of time. An inference is made on this number on your part/on the part of the historians you adhere to, as an interpretation that "your people" were/are fierce fighters(though you say this is in comparison to nothing else since you reject knowledge of other Colonial Wars that took place in Africa".

Since you refuse to delve into other situational factors that are necessary to determine if this is true your stance is merely "subjective"/ seen through your eyes and not really truth or absolute evidence of your ferocity at making War.

My "opinion" or informed judgement is as subjective as yours so my friend its really a matter of what "spin" you want to put on your story until we exhaust every variable factor that would be necessary to conclude that your stance is much stronger than mine.

Care to proceed?

XhosaNostra:
And that mindset is not about to change any time soon. Deal with it.

I can't really do anything about a schizophrenic that sees visual hallucinations now can I, so what is there to deal with ?

Reality is subjective to some minds.

XhosaNostra:
1. Can you blame me? You seem to have your own interpretation of our history, other than the one that is well-known & retold in publications by independent sources with no axe to grind. So yeah, I think I'll lean more to what I know & my own research. I have some knowledge of South African history too.

As I said your spin on history. I can easily do the same by de-emphasizing how your "100 year war" was simply a bunch of periodic skermishes that occurred between settlers, Clans and the Colonial office over that period of time and completely invalidate your so called "Long time to subdue us narrative" but hey my opinion.

XhosaNostra:
2. Again, that's your own interpretation, which I care zero about because I never said fighting abilities were non-existent. I never made any comparisons. I simply said ours was the longest due to factors stated in my previous posts & that is an undiluted FACT whether you like it or not. South Africans were tough opponents that gave colonizers the longest standoffs in history of colonialism in Africa. Fullstop.

Please refer to above reference for a rebuttal.

XhosaNostra:
No, I really don't care. The fact remains, it took more to conquer South Africans. Finish & klaar.

That bout sums up the typical SA mind set.

It is no surprise we have lots of xenophobes. "Africa" begins at the cape and ends in Limpompo, yes!

XhosaNostra:
What assumptions did I make? I stated proven facts & you're giving me your baseless opinion. What's there to argue, again?

1. The assumption that anyone other than yourself has read information on Wars that occurred in South Africa.

2. That the history of War in South Africa demonstrates some sort of fighting prowess that was non existent in comparison to other wars fought against Colonialists in Africa.

XhosaNostra:
@bolded, that's what Morpheus says, but historians (& history itself) state otherwise. I'll take their educated & informed word over yours any day.

I don't care about other people's wars, I'm discussing our own, THE LONGEST IN AFRICA & also the only one that needed more resources/manpower to conquer a people, as the article reads. Period.

1. What differentiates the perspective presented by the "historian" you choose to adhere to if he is using the same information that I employ?. Subjective don't you think?

2. You should care about other wars in Africa so you don't make assertions that are based on limited knowledge or dear I say ethnocentrism.

3. You "choose" to ignore my historicity not because it is not based on knowledge or fact but on account that it does not move your narrative forward and renders handicap your initial assertion about possessing some superior spirit of resistance against aggressors as compared to your African counterparts when really its just spin on narratives you choose to accept.

XhosaNostra:
HAHAHA. Riiiight.

Counter my contention, please.

This is what happens to people that make assumptions before they enter into arguments.

XhosaNostra:
Read, mumu

I read and the answer still remains the same.

"You have those forts because port cities tend to centralize their weaponry in this area to protect from external aggression from the sea and as a means of resupplying fighters that go inland not because the Xhosa were so overwhelming as to force the British to create many of them."

Again what fighting technics were so different from say the "Ashante wars" or "THe Dahomey wars" that stand out as some heroism that is so profilic it differentiates you from other colonial wars in Africa?


This was your initial assertion right, that you have some sort of bravery gene that is absent from other areas in Africa, no?

XhosaNostra:
Looool. So why do we have so many forts & mass graves in the Eastern Cape? In fact, we have the most ports in the rest of Africa because most battles were fought here, in Xhosaland. Try again.

You have those forts because port cities tend to centralize their weaponry in this area to protect from external aggression from the sea and as a means of resupplying fighters that go inland not because the Xhosa were so overwhelming as to force the British to create many of them. SMH!

XhosaNostra:
The ones you're lacking.

Right right.

XhosaNostra:
Of course they did, but it was not like taking candy from a baby. They had to go to battle over many years 1st.

Then you know nothing!

LMAO. Why were they halted then Mr-Know-it-all? Pray tell. On more than one occasion, an agreement had to be reached with the Xhosa because they retaliated every loss they had incurred in previous wars. A total of 9 wars. You Morpheus are clueless.

Their retaliation did not amount to anything greater than cattle theft and raiding and this was frustrating to the settlers and the colonial office as well were it was necessary to settle with the chiefs on territory that would be deemed native reservations.

It was really not in the British interest to eliminate an entire peoples. It was in their interest to subdue them and control the surrounding areas

XhosaNostra:
It had everything to do with with our abilities because we were unarmed & they had nuclear weapons.

What are these abilities may I ask?

XhosaNostra:
No, it simply means we were unwilling to let them take over. South Africans were not easily conquered, that will forever go down in history. We fought hard for our country & for our freedom. You wouldn't be asking me silly questions if you knew the history.

Did the British not conquer the Kaffirlands.

Did the British not conquer the Boer republics and establish provinces.

Did the British not overtake the Zulu's in natal and establish that province


Hmmm. So much for your resistance

XhosaNostra:
What are you trying to say? Do you know how many uprisings & wars we've had in the country? Of course people gave up their lives! When they couldn't intimidate & subdue us through violence, they used AIDS as a weapon. In case you didn't know, South Africans were intentionally infected with the disease. They hope it would wipe us out, but we're still here.

Apart from the Mfecane and the Zulu wars, there pretty much wasn't any other major Wars by black people against the colonist.

The bloodriver War also ended in Conquerism as well.

As far as uprisings, well that's basically just temper tantrums and toi toing that were usually subdued.

Guerilla war fare was very limited as well because the Aparthied government used very nasty tactics to quell the uprisings.

I will give you points for perserverance though but again that is based on the methods of suppression that were employed.

XhosaNostra:
LMAO. The Anglo/Zulu war was the shortest (yet an intense one) in South African history.

Why are you laughing, by your own definition you were Invictus so how then did the Zulu loose so quickly despite the intensity.

XhosaNostra:
The Xhosa wars lasted a century & at some point treaties had to be made because neither side would give up. So for the sake of everyone involved, a truce had to be reached. Please read!
.

You are waffling here, The Xhosa wars were far more internal with various chiefs and clans fighting each other than some strong formation of a powerful resistance against the british. The Kaffir lands were conquered none the less.