kgr28: Don't tell me about economics wena. What are you classical or Keynesian Either way, so if my country has a drug problem may be caused by us, does it give you a write to come here and mess up things even further This is not your country.
Stevecovey: Enjoying to travel is not an excuse for MASS MIGRATION into another country.
Mass migration is a problem. And in all societies, it is always met with violence. Because it is seen as a threat to survival. ALWAYS. Since the days of Moses till now. This has to do wt natural human instincts. Survival instinct will win over Rationality any day. Educated Germans burnt Jews in ovens. So all this back & forth ur having means nothing.
Forget drug crime, or southafricans talking about unemployment .etc. (those are legitimate concerns). However, this mass migration is THE MAIN PROBLEM. And their opposition to it is very natural.
Its a simple solution then, pass laws to limit migration, curb illegality and deport criminals.
MPSA: Brother! Do you know when this Xenophobic started, Almost immediately After our Democracy, Don't you think our People need their own Space?
If not! Why they are behaving so badly towards Others?
The toi toi and riot behavior was pre democracy and has been ingrained in the psyche of your people who have carried over to this dispensation so stop lying about that.
You have always demonstrated violently and are continuing to do so today. You are just picking a different "enemy" at this point.
Your tactics are the same because you don't know how else to operate.
MPSA: Open Borders will cause more Problems, You can clearly see from Now, Those who don't Believe me, They'll see, This is a taste, We are going to see a miracles I always see something wrong from the distance, This week it was a Drama More Drama is coming The Best way is to distance yourself from all this Drama
Open borders are not necessarily a bad thing. It depends on what is flowing through. Capitalist like 'capital" to flow freely across borders but not labor, well to be more accurate "unskilled" labor. Free movement of factors of production is the basis of Globalization and has had its benefits across the world without a doubt.
Your government does not know how to frame this argument appropriately nor does it know how to solve the problem because it lacks the know how.
there are close to 15 million illegal immigrants that are easily absorbed with the economy of the US who's GDP is close to 18 trillion dollars.
China has 1. 4 billion people and is has managed to transform its economy from cesspool of the world population to 2nd largest economy in the world.
MPSA: If you're happy with all this Conflicts between Migrants and South African Migrants time and again, Good For You, Innocent Migrants are dying because of the hate towards them in Most of the time, If you're Happy About That, Good For You,
Peace Of Mind If I don't see this Killings of Migrants each and every time, My Mind will Rest, When African People Cry all over the Continent because of Xenophobic! My Mind Don't Rest , If you're happy, Good for You.
Space
According to the Killings of Migrants time and again, I Believe this Murderers don't need them, Which is True, You can't attack people that you love the most time and again
Reason for all this poooo0 It might happen we spent a lot of our time without our African Brothers, It might happen we need time to recover, Which is fair ,If you see it in order way Round, Good for you,
Take all the time you need. You have made the point clear. You do not want people in your space.
MrBrownJay1: Grow up, because I use common sense to judge this issue certainly doesn't mean I am South African...thats a very dumb way to think....and let us all agree that the spark that ignited these xenophobic attacks (even though irrelevant) is the fact that MANY Nigerians are drug dealers in SA.... and that's the cheap excuse these xenophobs will use to point fingers.
If you are right and this was the fact that ignited the xenophobes then why did they not hit any drug dens, capture any drug dealers, raid any prostitution houses, etc instead they went to steal pap, nyama and magwenya from people stores.
MrBrownJay1: So because Nigerians don't manufacture these drugs, they should be exempt from pointing fingers on this issue?! Come on bro, now you are talking nonsense!
that's not what I said so don't put words into my mouth. My point is follow the trail and you will see where it leads you. Look at the big picture. Any thing that generates large amounts of cash will not be curtailed by any government. The power of money is beyond your spaza shop squabbling.
MrBrownJay1: As much as these bastard xenophobes use this issue to attack Nigerians (like they could have used any other issue), you can't sit here and pretend that it is right for anyone to do these crimes.
Again putting words into my mouth. The point was not justification but again its hard for you to see it huh?
MrBrownJay1: MANY NIGERIANS ARE DRUG DEALERS IN SA, and that's the flimsy excuse these xenophobs used to murder countless of African foreigners in SA. You can blame whoever you desire on this issue, but don't try to take away "some" of the blame from these Nigerian criminals.
YOur minister is a poor user of words and I have noticed it is very common with many of your officials.
A better language she could have used was
"People of South Africa, There are Nigerians who are in our country from doctors to engineers to teachers, university students, entrepreneurs to your lowly hair dresser, barbers, night watch men who are in this country as economic migrants. Of this population there are a percentage who are engaged in llllicit, dubious and heinous crimes against our citizens and we will not hesitate at bring this people to book and dealing with them decisively. They have been warned.
As for the law abiding Nigerian citizens in this country who have come to contribute, exchange knowledge, pay taxes and leave peacefully in our society, you are welcome here and must abide by our societies norms as part of your obligation and responsibility as good citizens of your country."
South Africa is tolerant of all peoples but will not and I repeat will not tolerate hoodlums. This is my government warning. !
MPSA: My Brother, You always talk about African Union when you are angry, Everything that you think is sanction towards South Africans, Is what most of South Africans want, We don't see that as a sanction, For us is Peace Of Mind, Believe me Brother, We don't hate you, We need to do our things, Only this Looters are really trouble towards you for their own reasons, The common reason among us is Peace of Mind,Nothing Else
Peace of mind to do what?
1. When they clustered you in Bantustans were you not there in peace of mind, why did you want to move freely within all parts of SA
2. Who is disturbing your peace of mind, is anyone hindering you from enjoying your country. You make no sense other than finding excuses to lash out at others. You are not forced or coereced into talking to an African foreigner. You are free to associate with who you desire.
You are not making an ounce of sense. This is the same mentality whites have when they tell you they want to exist by themselves in their own enclaves without anyone bothering them yet they want to move freely around the whole entire world without hinderance.
King44: I agree but still jungle justice is not right at all
Don't mind him the reason no government can eradicate drug dealing is because it is a business with willing buyers and willing sellers with a profit motive that generates revenue and is taxed illegally by the same government that are trying to stop it.
MPSA: My Brother, You are correct Somewhere, We don't travel, Especially across Africa, We were isolated from the Rest of the Continent since from the beginning of South Africa, The are so many things that we don't understand from our Continent, We used to do things our way for many years, You do things differently, We aren't used to migrate, We always want to solve our problems right here at home, Your Number is growing with a different culture, Most of us it's very difficult to cope with the whole thing, Most of us need our own space, We don't get that space, This is truly frustrating, We don't Support this Looters and criminals, But we're battling to be Honest, We don't hate you Guys but we're not used to the whole thing.
Welcome to the 21st century. You better adjust properly otherwise you will become extinct.
Survival of the fittest and smartest. No excuses.
I do understand that you need time for mental adjustment after liberation but this I know, even if you send all the African foreigners out of your country you will still have the same psychological problems because the problem stems from within and not from without.
MrBrownJay1: Nice dream...now let us ALL be real for a minute on this issue.
We need to be real and factual. There are a syndicate of drug peddlers in SA who are Nigerian. DO the needful and work with the Nigerian government to weed these people out and jail, deport and ex communicate them from your society.
Tax the Nigerian government for all repatriations as well but no you won't do it because your government officials are busy sharing money and can't solve your major issues so are diverting away by shifting the blame on criminals.
Your police are in cohoots with this criminals and so are your citizens.
kgr28: Yes I hate you fuckiiiing maggots. You need to be wiped out from the face of earth. You fuckkking bad reputation wherever you go. Now you wanna act like sissies and pussy and crus like babies you derseve everything that comes to you.
Advocating genocide is a serious crime.
A logical mind you do not have. Emotional fool
180 million Nigerians
10% in diaspora =18 million
1% of that in SA = 1.8 million
50% of that population are men= 900,000
75 % of that population over 18 years old=225,000
70% of this population are professionals, students, diplomats underskilled workers i.e barbers, shopkeepers, food sellers etc legal entrepreneurs = 157500
Leaving the remaining possibly 67,5000 miscreants and drug dealers
You want to damn 180 million for this small number of bad people
MAY THE ALMIGHTY SHORTEN YOUR LIFE SPAN AND SEND YOU STRAIGTH TO HELL!
JaceBlaze: Yeah I know,those elders who got their life savings looted from the VBS bank by EFF were truly empowered .Malema is a Mugabe in the making but thank God he will never be a president in South Africa,NOT IN THIS LIFETIME.
Like I said the odds at this point in time is that he couldn't be President, not by a long shot.
However so he and his party are a check and balance that will be forever needed.
JaceBlaze: I have no problem with you enjoying SA politics and that of a continent as a whole,I just won't tolerate being called names for not voting EFF,you don't see me complaining about how Nigerians casted their ballots.
You can vote who you want.
I like Julius, for all his errors he is a work in progress towards that which will empower the under classed African against the mighty grip of capitalism that needs reformation but is stubborn because it takes power away from its beneficiaries.
Fula123: Original Jews are from Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia.[/QUOTE]
What language did they speak before they were designated as Jews or Hebrew?
[quote author=Fula123 post=81856532]They were black as night. You guys are confused about your heritage because of colonization. Everybody started off dark skin, textured hair and maybe the noses and features variate.
It is likely Homo sapiens develop dark skin as an earlier adaptation yes but don't misconstrue that with race or facial morphology.
Fula123: Semitics come from negroid people. All ppl come from negroid people and if that were not so then the Egyptian negroid ancient artwork is a lie. We have to study to relearn true history of our people. The first Jews and Christians were all negroid.
Please clarify what you mean here. All humans originate in Africa, where is your proof they looked like the typical Nigerian or were there possibly variations of human morphology.
Fula123: The first human Lucy was found in Ethiopia. The other humans were found to be similar to the Ari people of Ethiopia who look negroid. Conversely, the San people look chinese. Why? Because all humans come from the first humans. I believe facial features are more keen as you get up north and east Africa but that doesn’t mean a mixture with Europeans or semitics. It means they’re mixed with us. Next!
Lucy was not Homo sapien but an Australopithecus afarensis, an upright walking ape.
San people don't look Chinese. San people share similar facial features with Asians in general but what does not say. Correlation does not imply causation in this case.
JaceBlaze: Take it easy,Morph!! who says if you not EFF then you must be DA or even ANC? how about being neither and vote based on who got the best policies?
Even if I was DA's puppy,an outsider like you has no business fuming about that because it won't affect you and your country.
This is the problem you South Africans have, so insulated and small minded. You think the world began in cape town and ended at the Limpopo province, ne!
I enjoy African politics in general and South African politics in particular because it stands as the most liberal democracy in operation within Black Africa and a litmus test to see if "Africans" in general given inherited democractic structures such as that which exists in your country will preserve. This is the reason why Julius is popular across many borders.
Basher8583: So its tribal war in SA abi. Mumu Ask your brothers there in SA. They will tell you the type of party they throw. But since collective amnesia is trait in your tribe, I will help you a bit with this link. Olodo
Pulsenaija: African Giant Burna Boy React to the ongoing Xenophobic attack in South Africa, not minding his previous friendships with South African Rapper AKA Burna Boy Said this below.
“And @akaworldwide i knew you was retarded but I didn’t know it had gotten this bad. Next time I see you you better have a big security bro,On Gambos Grave ur gunna need it.”
Se how you evil people post stuff on line. All these are jumbled up clips fromd different parts of the world including Malaysia, india etc with several events in South Africa
marosmart: Call me what you like Am still better than the goat � you voted for You should have been emotional genius when you were asking how people that or you send one of your brothers to go SA and count how many Nigerian has been killed..........
Who is talking about who voted for who you this illiterate. IF you can't answer simple question and can only reason like an emotional he goat you better go back to school fast fast before you are continuously embarrassed.