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mysticwarrior:
chai this one strong o, Morpheus 24 we would appreciate it if you could kindly come out and convincely deny these allegations

I am not sure what I am really denying here.


These are allegations without any factual information to support the allegation.

If you allege i stole something, you would have to categorically state what it is i stole, When I stole it, How I stole it and who I stole it from for it to make any sense wouldn't it.

If you enjoy empty allegations then that my friend is you issue not mine. I deal with concrete facts and not innuendos for entertainment sake.

I am waiting for Amujale to bring this information forward and I shall take it on but I suspect it will be more empty allegations and more accusations of my not being a Pan African because I don choose to associate with outdated and sometimes fabricated information.

Shikena!

Amujale:
Everyone knows that morpheus24 is a spanner and isn’t a real African.

He’s probably a Berber, Moor or some other Asiatic trying to pass as an African.

1.I don't know what relevance this has. Are you trying to insinuate that I have to be of another racial classification in other to oppose your nonsensical arguments.

2. Berbers or Amazigh people in fact actually have a better claim to Africa than your Olmec civilization. Their paternal Ydna ties them genetically to African haplogroups while the rest of their DNA emanates from the Levant and West Asian.

3. Moor is pretty much a synonym for a berber person from North Africa as they come from ancient Numidian populations that have lived in Africa and have genetic ties to the continent. These Moors also incorporated Sub saharan African peoples in their gene pool which would make many moors technically African people as well.

You are a duance!


Keep exposing yourself.

Amujale:
No, argument, except for stating the obvious that everyone knows already that I am a pan Africanist.

You are just projecting now, stick to the actually arguments at hand. You being a pan African has nothing to do with
1. supporting your assertion that Africans or Humans are 50 millions year old.
2. Stating that Africans populated the entire world for millions of years
3. There existed an African civilization in the americas who found their way there via ships and boats

Amujale:
No original content except for copying and stealing other peoples on the forum.

You'd have to point to what I stole on the forum and we can argue this point. Please point to it, show where, what and when I stole these view.

Amujale:
No sense, just read his posts and come up with your own conclusion.He has no knowledge of history except those that he steals from other Nlanders on the forum.

Again you will have to point to where, what and when i stole these ideas from nairalanders. Stop babbling rhetoric and state fact.

Amujale:
morpheus24 is an abomination that will always come up short coming up against the greatest continent on Earth.

morpheus24 is never going to recover his senses, even washing his brain with omo cannot cure him.

morpheus24 is a liar and faker and i have been able to determine that he obviously hates himself and hates the truth about African history.

None of his responses addresses the facts above.

Watch, as usual his response will be inconsequential.

What facts are you talking about, you are trying to hide your own lack of knowledge by projecting your stupidity on me.

The only two things you have posted to bolster you points are videos and a book you keep pasting here without pulling content out if it to really debate about.

Then you pull excerpts from several scientific journals from the internet and completely mis-state what they mean. You in addition pull a list of names of these researches who are pretty much European and non African people to bolster your point with no contextualization. I correct you and you have no rebuttal.

All you are left with now is naming calling so you can divert away from the fact that you have nothing left to offer.

Very sad.[/quote]

Amujale:
I’m guessing morpheus24 is deaf, a dunce, cannot read nor understand written text properly.

African historians spend the better part of their time studying and researching African history, whilst those with Eurocentric views waste their time chasing rainbows with outdated Eurocentric concepts and ideologies.

There is no comparison here.

I am a professional African historian with a background of multi-discipline in the Arts and sciences as well as a pan Africanist with bags of experience in related real-time academia, and you are a faker.

When you get your sanity back from Eurocentric fantasy, if ever you get your senses back, take the time to study what has been written on the thread.

You are a blockhead as you think that you can use Eurocentric views to argue against Africa’s exceptional and rich history.

Before you continue to spout your fantasyland rhetoric, there’s need to go and earn your stripes at a higher place of learning.

It’s clear to me and everyone else that you hate yourself and all Africanist out there such that you hold a warped view of World History.

Red herring and fillibustering. You are attacking the character and not the actually subject matters presented. Only very gullible people fall for such arguementative strategies.

Attack the information not the personality. It doesn't matter if I am a 3 foot 3 midget with red hair and a pink nose. Admit you don't understand the information instead of telling us how many African scholarships you have here.

You cut and pasted information from the internet on genetic information about Africans you don't understand and now since you can't answer you resort to attacking my character, throwing around words like Eurocentric to throw readers off.

Sertima's anthropological explanations for the presence of Africans in the new world and other parts are outdated. They cannot stand the test of genetics. Don't be mad at that, embrace the truth regardless of who is giving it to you.

Genotype is not Phenotype.

Now answer this question. Of the pictures below who is an African. Please point to the African. If you choose one , why did you choose that one, If you chose all, why did you choose all



Olodo!!

Amujale:
African historians and academics are the authorities that possess the correct qualifications regards African history, all other versions are null and void.

I am guessing Rosenburg, jakobsson and Wang are all African scholars from the list of names you posted eh!

Amujale:
Below are a list of worldwide academics that suppprt the previous posts



1.Campbell MC, Tishkoff SA. Annu. Rev. Genomics Hum. Genet. [free article]

2. Reed FA, Tishkoff SA. Curr. Opin. Genet.

3. Ethnologue ( www.ethnologue.com)

4. Tishkoff SA, Williams SM. Nat. Rev. Genet.

5. Sirugo G, et al. Hum. Genet.

6. Pritchard JK, Stephens M, Rosenberg NA, Donnelly P. Am. J. Hum. Genet. Reynolds JB, et al. Genetics.

8. Cann HM, et al. Science.

9. Rosenberg NA, et al. Science.

10. Dr Cheikh Anta Diop

11. Rosenberg NA, et al. PLoS Genet

12. Jakobsson M, et al. Nature.

13. Ramachandran S, et al. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. [freebarticle] [PubMed]

14. Forster P, Romano V. Science.

15. Wang S, et al. PLoS Genet.

16. Friedlaender JS, et al. PLoS Genet. [free article]

17. Behar DM, et al. Am. J. Hum. Genet. [free article]

18. Gonder MK, Mortensen HM, Reed FA, de Sousa A, Tishkoff SA. Mol. Bio.

19. Tishkoff SA, et al. Mol. Biol.

20. Li JZ, et al. Science.

21. Chen YS, et al. Am. J. Hum. Genet. [free article]

And fifty other reputable academics from around the world.

You just pulled a whole bunch of stuff on the internet and pasted it here with reference to each of the specific studies by each of those individuals.

If you notice some of the names are repeated on each of the lines you enumerate simply meaning that each of them collaborated on the articles they were researching.

Oh and by the way many of them are Europeans as well so you post Eurocentric people then in the same breath say you support African scientist, anthropologist etc.

is it so hard to concede that what you may know as your paradigm and is lacking is evident and you incorporate new findings into your reasoning but no like religious people you will clling to your beliefs because it informs your world view and anything outside of it you are terrified of the thought and so cling on to what you understand instead of stepping into new information available out day in the name of staying PAN AFRICAN.

For real

Amujale:
African historians and academics combined to identity continental ancestral population clusters that correlate with self-described ethnicity and shared cultural and/or linguistic properties.

We observed high levels of mixed ancestry in most populations, reflecting historical migration events across the continent. Our data also provide evidence for shared ancestry among geographically diverse hunter-gatherer populations (Khoesan speakers and Pygmies).

The ancestry of African Americans is predominantly from Niger-Kordofanian (~71%), European (~13%), and other African (~8%) populations, although admixture levels varied considerably among individuals.

This study helps tease apart the complex evolutionary history of Africans and African Americans, aiding both anthropological and genetic epidemiologic studies.

You don't really know what you extracted and posted above. All of this above information is in support of all the information I have been posting so far

Africans have a mixed ancestry which is a combination of several groups of Africans on the continent with distinct genetic material, with the khoi and the pygmies having the closest genetic relationship because they are the two most oldest African populations in terms of genetics.

The African American sample simple shows that they come from majority West and Central African regions which correlates with regions that the Atlantic slave trade took place in addition to European DNA which would come from rape, inter mingling and miscegany.

Stop picking quotes that you don't understand it just makes you look more silly.

Amujale:
Genetics is NOT an absolute science, the reasons using it as an argument without studying the necessary variety of disciplines that Eurocentrics come up short.

You don't know what you are talking about really.

Nothing is absolute that is why when you do a DNA test to find out if a child is yours the data never says 100% he/she is yours.

But 99.999% probability is as accurate as anyone can get. This is what is referred to as fact. A test if performed multiple times will yield the same result everytime.

Amujale:
Africa is the source of all modern humans.

This is not disputed since the Hominid that evolved into Homo Sapien Sapien comes from that particular continent.

This does not mean that other species of Humans did not exist on other continents simultaneous to Homo Sapien sapien.

Amujale:
After our team of African historians and academics studied 121 African populations, four African American populations, and 60 non-African populations for patterns of variation at 1327 nuclear microsatellite and insertion/deletion markers.

I don't know where you pulled this quote from but it is incomplete so I don't have an idea what you are trying to say here.

Amujale:
Are you nuts?

You are a dunce.

It seems you have problems reading.

Stop quoting me in your post.

You are a liar and faker.

I stopped taking you serious after your fakery and antics.

Go and play with your thumb, you are a disgrace to all the senses.

All my posts are based on scientific and analytical conclusions and are verifiable to the general public.

But you are a faker so you can go and bury your head under a rock with all your crazy Eurocentric ideology.

I will be here anytime you post that mumbo jumbo Afrocentric gibberish you are passing off as science.

Show us the 50 million year old human fossil that was found?

If Africans were the first people in the the Americas, Did they just vanish? Why don't we find a trace of them in the DNA of the Native Americans that live there today?

The Olmec sculptures are circumstantial anthropological evidence of an African civilization. The genetics points to all fossils found in the new world as correlating to Asians that crossed the bering straits.


Can you point to the African below. if you pick one, Why are they African. If you pick all, why are they all African.

Olodo!

Amujale:
morpheus24 are you nuts?

Stop quoting me in your posts, you and I are done with conversation.

Stop butting into my conversation with sane people.

I don’t converse with fakers.

I have nothing to say to you, except that you are a liar and faker.

Stop butting into my conversation I dont want to be associated with a crazy Eurocentric liar and faker as you clearly are.

I will be here waiting for you anytime you spit that mumbo jumbo deceiving people with your Afrocentric paradigm.

You cannot refute or rebut anything that is why you dance around accusations and project your own ignorance of certain subject matters.

I have combed through Dr. Sertimas assertions. They are outdated and you know it, that is why you cannot defend it.

Genetics will always trump anthropology because the latter's conclusions are based on circumstantial evidence and inferences while the former is scientific fact.


Olodo!

Fainthearted:
No it has far reaching conclusions than humans came out of Africa That was known before the project


Scientists concluded that a mixing occurred between humans and hominids yet they are saying they don't know how

What do you mean they say they don't know how. Humans are a branch of Hominids and Neanderthals and Denisovans are Humans as well just an archaic type.

Fainthearted:
You can't mix two distinct species without genetic splicing yet they are still in denial that Africans invented sciences such as Babylonian Africans had trigonometry 1000 years before the Greeks who were also Africans
Africans were all the classical civilizations that owned Hybids as slaves for labor and it seems as well as sex

?

Fainthearted:
Imagine there was only one race on the planet if we are too use the concept race although I prefer to use human species rather different kinds of man

What Elijah Muhammad revealed was also revealed by Prophet Noble Drew Ali yet no one ever mentions him Nor do they mention C.M Bey and his Clock of Destiny works

When speaking with Dr. Charles Finch once he told us that Nile Valley experienced rapid advancement that suggested a higher intelligence spawn Kemet Some can throw that out yet the Myths are clear that ancient Gods walked among men and mixed with them


It seems you have bought into they lies of hidden archeology

Hiding information is lying too

Keep waiting for that space ship Yacub is bringing to come carry you away. You and me will not see it come to pass and I can almost guarantee that.

Mumbo jumbo Aliens created Kemet.

letu:
The order guy is a faker well by their fruit you shall know them , I understand what you're saying thanks for understanding.

Olodo. What fruit have you known me by.

That's why you asked me to explain genetics and haplogroups to you. Something you have zero understanding about. Please go and research and stop being lazy.

Your friend Amujale keeps dodging that subject matter because he has no idea the implications of it to the outdated mumbo jumbo he keeps posting here about Africans populating the world 50 million years ago.

The two of you keep projecting your ignorance talking about "I follow African scholars because they explain African things in African ways". Some of the stupidest comments I have ever heard.


Can any of you jokers point to the African in the picture below. If you do why did you pick that person as African if you pick all of them why did you choose all.

Olodo!

Fainthearted:
Research the 2010 Neanderthal project that proves Africans are 100 percent homo sapiens and everyone else is mixed with Neanderthal

I thought it was nonsense too yet that was decades before new scientific evidence proving the human race is African and at one time all there was on Earth was Africans


Yet we warred over different bloodlines and moral values

It was a cult that created the hybrids as slaves so they could eventually rule by soul transmigration

From what I gather the Sutan wanted to kill all of Yakubs cult yet the elders said it must take place

It wasn't tyrants kings that caused Africa s downfall it was many cults undermining the Sutan and before hybrids were enslaved Africans enslaved each other

The history of man is contraire to the history of souls

We are undergoing a cosmic lesson

Hmmm, you guys have some imagination for real.

The neanderthal genome project simply revealed that Homo sapien man who appears in Africa first, interbred with another type of human that existed when he left Africa i.e. the Neanderthal.

However the amount of Neanderthal DNA in non Africans is intro-gressed, which means Neanderthals contributed little to the entire mapping of the Human genome today.

For your information other peoples who look very similar to Africans in phenotype also carry this Neanderthal gene including a good number of African Americans, Ethiopians, Fulani and some Masai people as well.

The scientist Yakub was an invention of Elijah Muhammad who is yet to prove any of that Gibberish. The rest of your write up about the beginnings of the Hebrew language are none the less historically accurate.

Amujale:
morpheus24 liar and fraud, go and remove my name from your fake post.

It’s simple, go back to the post in question and edit amicably so as to correct your error.

Stop quoting me in your post until you remove my name from your fake post.

I have made myself crystal clear.

I acknowledge the post was in error now you can run along and tell the appropriate authorities so they can come and arrest me on the web.

Olodo!

Fainthearted:
The history of man is trillions of years old and the history of man is different from the history of souls after the creation of Yakubs pale skinned Neanderthal which occurred about 6,000 to 8, 000 years ago

Bro I was digging the knowledge until you threw me off with with that Nation of Islam Gibberish about the story of Yakub creating pale skinned Neanderthals.

Can you prove this?

Kennewick man

Second to Oldest fossil found in the Americas aged at 9000 years, thought to be European because of his cranio metrics.

DNA evidence shows he was Native American

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/06/18/415205524/dna-confirms-kennewick-mans-genetic-ties-to-native-americans

Amujale:
African people circumnavigate the seas and oceans to discover the Americas thousands of years ago during the Olmec Xi civilisation. Modern day historians identify the Olmec with the Mandé people.

Whilst Africans are already well established, living in their glourious communities, the Red Indians walked the steps of Eurasia reaching the Americas on foot.

The Red Indians met various African communities already present in the Americas, as did the Europeans that came later. We fed them, clothed them and taught them how to communicate with God.

And now they want to claim Native American without the proper proclamation of Africas great influence on the continent.

The genetic evidence does not support this theory. If Native Americans met Africans the Africans DNA would live in the Native Americans today.

We do not see this when we test the DNA of "proper" Native Americans

Olodo!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_xTG6VXlIQ

Amujale:
You are spot on with your analysis.

I am a pan Africanist with multi-discipline background and over a decade of research into World History, the other guy is a faker.

a decade or research yet no knowledge on haplogroups or the genetic makeup of populations round the world.

Amujale:
My study into World History, with the aid of African historians, scholars and academics makes me come up with my findings.

Are these your findings or other peoples findings

Olodo!

Amujale:
Pan Africanist are about working towards a progressive worldwide movement that aims to encourage and strengthen bonds of solidarity between all Africans worldwide.

Whilst, Eurocentric views are based on flawed concepts and ideologies.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXsqjbT3QlE&t=3s[/flash]

Being a Pan Africanist requires that we tell the truth about scientific discoveries even if when they do not promote our world view. You obviously don't know the difference between an Afrocentrist and a Pan African go back to school

Olodo


https://www.thoughtco.com/out-of-africa-hypothesis-172030


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUG2BqLwRxY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KyeENDKMw0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mpkn7AEAvU

Amujale:
Without a shadow of doubt Africans are indigenous to mainland Africa, however, all and every other African community that exists outside of Africa prior to 1400 B.C.E. are said to have circumnavigate the oceans and seas in order to transport themselves.

The earliest examples are given in line with the early Eskimo, Indigenous Americans, Indigenous Asians, Indigenous Australasian and the Indigenous European. (not meant as a chronology rather alphabetic in order)

They circumnavigated the oceans and seas, depicted themselves similar to present mainland Africans, they described themselves the same way
as well.

All people of the world can trace their roots to African history.

Simply put, all the communities in the world are born from Africa.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/astonishing-3d-face-10000-year-10561797?fbclid=IwAR1U_5z0ABKkXQThJVjpf0_mRycSbUwqllWL1ZtOhLjr7YDLrEsMnGqCWa0

We've addressed this issue already unless you have new information to share, there is no DNA evidence that puts Africans in the Americas 50,000 year ago. The people that crossed the bering straits were genetic Asians.


https://sciencecodex.com/new-face-south-american-people-623728

Amujale:
According to the Paleoclimatic history of our world, the "Out of Africa" experience occurs during the period denoting the Wurum Inter-Stadio. It was said that the Phenoms got caught up in an Ice box.

They live within the ever so hospitable ice; an enviroment dominated by Icy conditions for over a milenia.

Once the Ice Age passed, many Africans turned into white Europeans and Asians (there are a combination of conditions that allows for such to happen); whilst a few retained their complextions throughout the entire period. Those that retained their African features are known to us as the 1%.

50% of World History occurs exclusively within the African continent.

No sensible academic anywhere in the world can deny the fact that every human on earth came as a result of Africa..

What mechanism turned these "Africans" (even though back then there was nothing such as an African, just a Homo Sapien Sapien being running around) to change from their present features into that of Europeans and Asians?

Amujale:
These conclusions are based on a thorough scientific and analytical research opposed to the Eurocentric views that are based on rhetoric and false assertions

What is this Eurocentric view that you keep referring to?

Olodo!

Amujale:
For the umpteenth time go and fix the errors in your post.

You inserted my name fraudulently into one of your crazy highly provocative post, and I ask you to go and correct it immediately.

If you don’t by tomorrow morning, I will be reporting you to the appropriate authorities.

Did you not see where the response acknowledged it was an error in posting.

Hurry up and go and report.

Olodo!

letu:
It appears that you are a very angry person,

I don't like lazy researches

letu:
I don't need to do that kind of ridiculous research because who ever those scientist you worship are that's your business,those your scientist are not the only scientist in the whole world, there are many all over the world and they don't have the same view on African history that's why they are divided into two, (1) Afrocentric and (2) Eurocentric so it's up to us to choose which side to follow and there's no middle ground in all this is either your here or there because you appears to be the type that will call themselves pan African but will always make use of Eurocentric ideology/school of thought to describe everything that has to do with Africa so I've heard what you have to say as an angry person you are any way thanks now you can continue your argument with your friend Amujale goodbye.

Data is Data and the inference is what can be construed as Eurocentric or Afrocentric.

Data is not subjective. Data is objective.

If I test the blood of an African and the combination is AA BB CC DD EE and I test out the blood of a Native America and it comes out FF HH II and then someone comes and says that Native Americans have African blood because the Native American's skull shape is similar to that of and African that is an inference

In order to conclude we go to the genetic material of the two groups of people. if the genetics of the skull reads FF HH II similar to that of other native americans then regardless of the skull shape it is an objective statement when we say that Skull is that of a Native American.

Shikena!

letu:
who are this scientist that makes use of this new information which speaks against everything that
Sertima and his likes stand for, I'll like to know more about them.

Why don't you avail yourself of the information by searching in the journal of human genetics. Just type in Luzia or native indian dna etc,
instead of asking lazy questions.

letu:
Morpheus who outdated the information , what made them this angry/ on what ground do they base their reason to declarer the information as an outdated information.

The information is outdated because it did not take into account "the new information i.e. genetic studies/Human Genome Project" that has come to settle most of the circumstantial anthropological claims made by Sertima and his likes.

Case in Point. The Luzia fossil dated 11,500 years ago and found in the Americas was said to be anthropological and archaeological proof that Africans were in the Americas thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. The bust of luzia had an intemediary morphological and cranio-metric shape similar to that of Africans and Melanasians, both of who are similar in appearance.

However after the genome sequencing of Luzia DNA, it was discovered that She clustered genetically with Amerindian peoples regardless of her skull shape.

Amujale:
Without a shadow of doubt Africans are indigenous to mainland Africa, however, all and every other African community that exists outside of Africa prior to 1400 B.C.E. are said to have circumnavigate the oceans and seas in order to transport themselves.

The earliest examples are given in line with the early Eskimo, Indigenous Americans, Indigenous Asians, Indigenous Australasian and the Indigenous European. (not meant as a chronology rather alphabetic in order)

They circumnavigated the oceans and seas, depicted themselves similar to present mainland Africans, they described themselves the same way
as well.

All people of the world can trace their roots to African history.

Simply put, all the communities in the world are born from Africa.

Yes, the ancestors of all peoples including present day Africans all emanate from Africa because Homo Sapien was born in Africa, but you don't seem to grasp the implications of this statement do you.

Again there is only one person below who can be identified as African on a genetic level, the rest all correlate on a genetic level with people from their regions, can you pick out the African?

Guru10450:
Native Americans are currently fighting law suits in American courts in areas of their interests. They attempt to get the courts to agree with their arguments and award them settlements and repatriations. They have had success with similar claims in the past.

African American families that are direct descendants of the Native American should also fight for their part of the settlements and repatriations.

There’s a proposition to all law students out there. Here we are talking about fitting ourselves into a multi billion dollar project that will employ thousands of professionals from all different backgrounds, especially law.

i don't know what your blabbing on about here

Amujale:
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/astonishing-3d-face-10000-year-10561797?fbclid=IwAR1U_5z0ABKkXQThJVjpf0_mRycSbUwqllWL1ZtOhLjr7YDLrEsMnGqCWa0


The debate over whether Africans or Asians were the first ancient people to set foot on American soil took an unexpected twist today with the unveiling of the 3D face of a 10,000-year-old African caveman in Brazil.

Digital imaging by Brazilian graphic designer, Cicero Moraes, exclusively revealed by Mirror Online, shows the features of a 40- to 50-year-old prehistoric man whose face resembles Australian Aborigines.


The relic, dubbed Apiuna, was discovered deep inside a cave during an archaeological dig in Lagoa Santa, south east Brazil, some 50 years ago.

It appears to support a two-decades-old argument that Africans were the first colonisers of the Americas.

The news comes just weeks after Moraes also revealed the 3D facial characteristics of a 28-year-old Siberian Asian male, modelled from another prehistoric cranium.

His face resembles Australian Aborigines. The unveiling appears to support a two-decades-old argument that Africans were the first colonisers of the Americas


The discovery of the African’s face challenges the thinking about the American continents' first pioneers.

[bApiuna bears a close likeness to Luzia,[/b] the name given to the 11,500-year-old skull of a young African woman, whose remains are the oldest ever found on the South American continent.

In 1998, Luzia’s fossilised bones, excavated more than 20 years before from the same region as the primitive men,were found to have similar ethnic characteristics to modern-day[b] indigenous Sub-Saharan Africans, native Australians and Melanesians.[/b]



Luzia’s people was one of two groups of early settlers in the New World according to scientific studies.

Archaeologists believe there were at least two large migratory waves of distinctively different people who made the odyssey across the Bering Straits, the land bridge between Siberia and Alaska, reaching the American continent thousands of years before the first Europeans arrived.


Apiuna may have been in the first nomadic wave with Luzia.

The Siberian Asian, called Diarum, whose face was unveiled by Moraes in May this year, likely trekked across in the second flow, it is claimed.

Professor Claudia Rodrigues, director of Brazil’s National Museum said: “The discovery of these new faces from the past reinforces the complexity of the settlements of the South American peoples.

"It’s not a simply process and there’s still a lot we don’t know.”

Moraes makes clear the 3D facial reconstructions do not attempt to solve the mysteries surrounding the occupation of the New World.

“My job was to bring the past into the future through artistic creativity and to add to the discussion,” he said.

It took two months to reconstruct the features of the immigrant cave dwellers.

The fossilised remains of Diarum were found in 1971
The fossilised remains of Diarum were found in 1971 (Image: Cicero Moraes Caters News)
Putting the flesh to the bone on the man's 3D skull
Putting the flesh to the bone on the man's 3D skull (Image: Cicero Moraes Caters News)
This picture shows the stages of the 3D facial reconstruction of the Siberian Asian
This picture shows the stages of the 3D facial reconstruction of the Siberian Asian (Image: Caters News)
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Moraes explained: “The process involved photo-scanning both fossils using an advance computer programme. We took images from various angles and algorithms calculated key measurement points on the skulls and converted the information into the 3D results.”

Photos taken by researchers at the Lapinha Museum in Lagoa Santa, where the skulls are exhibited, were emailed to the graphic designer in Sinop, central east Brazil, some 1,500 miles away.

Moraes continued: "I sent the data to Marcus Paulo Machado, a forensic specialist in Rio de Janeiro, who did a blind identification of both skulls.

“He had no historical information about the craniums but was able to tell their ages and verified both were males. He concluded one had the physical characteristics of an Asian and the other had those of an African Austro-Melanesian."

Please pay attention to all the bolded parts above from the article you reference. This just exposes how updated information is necessary.

1. The fossils both of Apiuna and Luzia are dated within the period humans from Siberia and Asia migrating via land into the Americas i.e 7000-15000 years ago. They did not come by boats or ships

2.The reconstruction originally fit within cranio metric measurements for Australian Aborigenes and Melanasians who resemble Africans physically but are the most genetically distant from them

3. Luzia skull which is similar to that of Apnia but much older at 11,500 years was DNA sequenced a year after this article and

in November 2018, scientists of the University of São Paulo and Harvard University released a study that contradicts the alleged Australo-Melanesian physical appearance of Luzia. Using DNA sequencing, the results showed that Luzia had Mongoloid features.[24] The bust of Luzia displaying African features was done in the 1990's. "However, skull shape isn't a reliable marker of ancestrality or geographic origin. Genetics is the best basis for this type of inference," Strauss explained."The genetic results of the new study show categorically that there was no significant connection between the Lagoa Santa people and groups from Africa or Australia. So the hypothesis that Luzia's people derived from a migratory wave prior to the ancestors of today's Amerindians has been disproved. On the contrary, the DNA shows that Luzia's people were entirely Amerindian.

How many human migrations from Asia came to the Americas at the end of the Ice Age more than 16,000 years ago was hitherto unknown. The traditional theory, formulated in the 1980s by Neves and other researchers, was that the first wave had African traits or traits similar to those of the Australian Aboriginals.

The well-known forensic facial reconstruction of Luzia was performed in accordance with this theory. Luzia is the name given to the fossil skull of a woman who lived in the Lagoa Santa region 12,500 years ago and is sometimes referred to as the "first Brazilian".

The bust of Luzia with African features was built on the basis of the skull's morphology by British anatomical artist Richard Neave in the 1990s.

"However, skull shape isn't a reliable marker of ancestrality or geographic origin. Genetics is the best basis for this type of inference," Strauss explained.

"The genetic results of the new study show categorically that there was no significant connection between the Lagoa Santa people and groups from Africa or Australia. So the hypothesis that Luzia's people derived from a migratory wave prior to the ancestors of today's Amerindians has been disproved. On the contrary, the DNA shows that Luzia's people were entirely Amerindian."

https://sciencecodex.com/new-face-south-american-people-623728

Amujale:
Take your Eurocentric mumbo jumbo a throw into the dust bin and instesd focus on being truthful.

Honesty is always the best policy. Honesty trumps almost anything.

There's almost no end to the advantages of being a person that is honest.

Being an honest person is a healthly way for anyone to live their lives.

Always red herring. Honesty has nothing to do with this. Deductive reasoning does.


Of the pictures I posted can you point to the one who is an African? if you pic one, why did you pic that particular one. If you pic all of them then why?

Olodo. I am trying to help you use your brain.

Amujale:
Your Eurocentric mumbojumbo is invalid around here.

So stop wasting your time.

Pointless conversation.

Now get on your bike.


You make false claims that you cannot substantiate; all my post are indeed verifiable.

You will NOT take the time to read content, links, books and other media.

Since you will Not have a sensible conversation without being deceitful, our conversation ends.

Let me help you out young man.

Correlation does not imply causation. Because two things are co-related, this does not imply that one caused the other.

There are black skinned people who exist outside of Africa today. These black people are no more African on a genetic level than a White European.

Dr Sertima's assertions that these black people in the Americas were African were based on linguistic, pictographic and phenotype.

BOOM! in comes genetics which shatters all these assertions.

Again for the 100th time. There is only one pic of an African below, the rest are non- Africans with genetics that correlate with people from their region. Can you pick out which one?

Olodo!

Amujale:
The news of substantiated proof that Africans are found in the Americas caught the attention of pan Africanist academics and all other non- African institutes. These individually exceptional academics as part of a team of experts working out everything about our rich history.

Block head, the Africans that left the continent nearly 200,000 years ago are no longer African. They are every other type of person you see outside of the continent regardless of their phenotype.

Some retained certain phenotypical traits advantages to them, others did not. However, all people outside of Africa didexperience mutatations on a genetic level which is how we are able to differentiate peoples on a geographical level.

Correlation does not imply causation.

Phenotype is not Genotype.

Go back to school.

Amujale:
Barton discusses early American civilisations, have you heard of the "Wahetaw of Louisiana" ,

the Darienite Indians of Panama,

the Choco Regional Indians of Colombia,

the Chuarras of Brazil,

the black(sic) Califonians of California

or the Jamassee Indians whom in antiquity occupies modern day Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and North Florida.

There are also the Guanin who are also said to be indigenous to the Caribbean.

Barton discusses black(sic) civilisations of the Americas from pre-historic to the present day times. The Washetaw of Louisiana are said to be master shipbuilders, in addition to sailing to and fro the coast of Africa, they are said to voyage the Atlantic and Caribbean Sea as well as the Pacific.

you still don't get it do you. This information is outdated.

You will not find one sane scholar who will corroborate this story. Why? because these groups of people who's pigmentation is similar to that of Africans do not correlate on a genetic level, therefore they are not African people anymore so than an Aboriginal Australian is African.

You are really a block head.

There is only one picture below that depicts Africans that can be tied to the people of Africa today and 200,000 years ago. The rest are genetically similar to the people that live in the region where they come from "REGARDLESS OF SKIN TONE OR CRANIO METRIC & BODY MORPHOLOGY".

PHENOTYPE IS NOT GENOTYPE

Go back to school!

Amujale:
Most of the things i talk against on the forum is engulf in you morpheus24.

You are untrustworthy, you lie, you steal and and you cheat.

Thus to expose you completely and tterly for the bogus personality that you are.


Everything that i am strongly against is manifest morpheus24.

Why?

morpheus25 lies point blank and cannot read properly.

All my post have sources insert. If it isnt a book and the sources, then it would ptobably be a video with the sources clearly visible to the reader.

I hardly use Eurocentric sources, although i have been knowm to quote Martin Bernal as most of his writings are seen as pro African literature.

And yet, he keeps asking for sources, you are the worst typr of student anyone could ever have.

An ingrate and a faker that would like to take the credit for the next guys efforts.


morpheus24 steals

You steal other peoples ideas and arguments and try to use to scam your way around the forum.

You have used my own material a few times already.

Not cool.

It isnt your fault though


I gave you my audience, you can jog along and go and spam another thread. Take what you jave learnt and use it wisely.


And you morpheaus24 are a cheat.

In the same way that you steal other peoples ideas snd concepts, you write as if they are your own, no reference to the original posters.

We have learnt nothing from you other than your use of information that is outdated.

its like you telling us to go and read Darwins " the origins of man" when there is material that is out there that is way more current.

SMH

Amujale:
How can you say you are an Africanist and have these views?

That doesnt seem right.

Respecting ones efforts in terms of the fight against Colonialism and Opression doesn't preclude me from understanding the flaws of one o its proponents