₦airaland Forum

DictatorZAR1:
Tell me how does this question correlate to the header of this thread.

Recession....fiscal policy....fiscal...discipline......fiscal spending.......social grants......RDP housing......Gugu grants.....grants go to spending on too many children in gugu's house.

DictatorZAR1:
I can also respond by asking why is there currently a crisis of child slave rings in Nigeria. How can a nation that claim to be a beacon of Human Rights still allow slavery within its borders, underage marriages, baby factories and illegal organ harvesting.

Off topic!

DictatorZAR1:
The issue of SA's recession is a question of lack of trust between government and business. Its got more to do with political indecisiveness, mistrust by business and miss management of state enterprises.

Now how does SA's economic situation lead to nation bashing by your compatriots save Nigeria from a even worse economic downturn.

You need to pose that question to the people who are bashing, i am simply asking pertinent questions

All49ja:
Leave them, we gonna put their a$$ on hot zone now. It looks like they've been going unchallenged for a while now. Lazy goats.

BTW, how have you been?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!, I trust you, you no dey tire.

I have been well, money no dey come as before so i no dey travel as I use to. Recession no good o!

DictatorZAR1:
Any report on your president AKA Dictator Buhari's holiday in the UK.

You forget your history is a tell tale of decades of horrendous mismanagement of a country by its black leaders.

I'm using it as a case study for students on how leaders of africa fucccckup their country which eventually leads to rebellions and terror.

I am a southern African foreign affairs expert. If you need a response on that go to the political section, there are many that will give you a fully informed answer

As far as using case studies from West African Miliatary regimes and their subsequent results, you would do your students a better service to move to places like Liberia and Sierra leone. They are far worse basket cases in those terms and far more interesting . My humble suggestion.

Jayceon:
tbh I don't think that clown is a worthy opponent,he doesn't even understand basic grammar

He sure does get under your skins and has been for years.

Lionessza:
Hahahaha @ colonized minds. Colonized minds are those who will bleach their skins at an alarming rate ( because ..well, white skin is better than a black one right?). Colonized minds are those who would risk their young lives to go through lybia(where they are frequently put straight to slavery) to reach the whiteman's land ( promised land fools). Colonized minds are those who jubilate at small compliments onyibo throws at their country so he can come exploit some more. Colonized minds ? Lol. Well those who think progress made by other Africans is because their neighbors are onyibos. Colonized minds would sell their property and give up their jobs to go and be prostitutes and pimps in the streets of onyibo land (now that's what is called adventure and and being industrious in a proud " most populated black country". Lol. Smh.

Complete Gibberish again and no correlation to my initial question. don't strawman the arguement. If you want to discuss the reason whey there is a bleaching culture in Nigeria we can go there or simply search Nairaland and you will get your answers or if you wish to disucss the reasons for the sahara route journeys taken by Africans of multiple nationalities we can go there. Open the thread and invite me but don't digress.

The accusation made pertains to the way you refer to other Africans as "Uitlanders" as a consequence of your colonial history. Refute that please, don't jump around subject matters.

Lionessza:
Actually those "makeshift " RDP homes are way better than living in Makoko generation after generation. Don't be concerned for those kids and gogos they are taken of by SANS, you should be concerned about the rate at which Nigerian kids are drowning daily at the Mediterranean Sea to be refugees in Europe. You should be concerned about black on black slavery taking place in Nigeria. Do you ever concern yourself about Nigerian teenagers as young as 12 being trafficked daily to Italy to be sex slaves. I think these Nigerian problems should concern you more than healthy kids who have 3 square meals a day, access to free Healthcare, free education, 24hr electricity supply, tap water etc .

There are numerous Nigerians on this forum concerned about the above issues you are raising, Why do a lot of African take the mediternean route to europe, I could chuck that up to proximity and access to those routes as compared to southern africans like mozambicans, malawians and the likes who would choose a simpler southern route to SA in seeking better economic situations, but then again, that is not my forte and I am not here for that.


Now respond appropriately to the accusations i have put forward and stop digressing, is it true the gugus are being dumped with fatherless babies and how can they cope even with grants from the government. This topic is about SA slipping into recession and everything else related to that.

I am not Al4naija, even though I like him

Lionessza:
Lol, it sounds like Hellen Zille hurt you a lot with that statement than she did SAns, I hope you get over it someday.

Why would it hurt me you r.et.a.rd. it concerns your history. I am simply giving my opinion/judgment on the issue.

You are so 5 years old with these counter responses. You must do better wena!

All49ja:
I was laying low till I noticed your countrymen outburst. I couldn't take it any longer. I missed here menh. I must confess I miss you. You still in this game? .

You be correct Soldier. I hail you!!!

No one can get this Saffers so wired up but you.

Carry on sir!

Jayceon:
refer to other Africans in a dignified manner ...the same people referring to others as "primitive Zulus" are now demanding respect from others

Thats Al4naija you d.u..mmy. He is special.

Lionessza:
The SA government takes care of the kids, disabled individuals and elderly as it should , does the "zoo "government give a damn about its own? Lol. Nope! Which tells us the mindset of the average Nigerian .

Well last I remember the government was giving out 5000 stipends to poor families per month and my government pension funds are paying out on time,

Veron265:
I'm quite an upfront person, so I'll be honest....yes....
My spiritual quest involves SCOAN....I had opted to keep it to myself since 'we' all have our opinions about TB Joshua.
They say "send a thief to catch a thief".....I'll leave it at that for now.

You lot are nosey abeg....either way, I'll come and testify upon my return. ( Afrikanbabe and Morpheus24)

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I'm coming for a well rounded experience, I'll have my moral campus....
No regrets, money well spent.

I'm driven by my tastebuds.....so, totally looking forward to all the chow I go chop,
Music is great, especially when live
Art and artefacts
And the basic Lagos Vibe

There is no problem if you are coming to Scoan, most Saffers I meet at the airport usually tell me they are coming from SCOAN so no biggy, Travelling from the island to SCOAN is a bit far in Lagos traffice terms but I am guessing you have made plans concerning that and if you havent you should.

You will enjoy the cuisine no doubt but carry a bottle of peptobismal cause the spices are strong and not everyone can take them. I have had many a SA food and trust me you may need it.

Music and nightlife you will definitely enjoy.

DictatorZAR1:
Acute Amnesia now hey MORPH

You are probably thinking of some other people. What concept of freedom or democracy would I be preaching to a sovereign state other than those outlined in the Universal declaration of human rights.

Nope never me!

DictatorZAR1:
So the goat butler finally crept out of his Northern cave in the wilderness of Madiguri to come school us on democracy while he's enclave got independence in the 1960's and since lived under military dictatorships while only tasting true democracy in 2000 by the help of the very south africa he now wants to claim superiority over how ironic.

Abacha hanged you lot everyday while looting your resources and left you with 100m lazy maggots who now perish in the Mediterranean sea trying to escape the Nigeria aka land of free blacks.

Nigeria the great giant of africa 100% black criminal breeding paradise whose citizens by the thousands died this year crossing deserts and seas on there way to the whitemans heaven.

Is this the nation who tries to preach to us about freedom and democracy. Now tell me with all that land why aren't Nigerians staying in there country and developing there land.

Who preaches freedom and democracy to SA on this forum. Hmmmm??

All49ja:
Are you really talking about laziness? If you not lazy, tell me why your ancestors couldn't fight when the white rendered 3.5 millions of them homeless?

This is what you can't hear of in West Africa, you can't come to my land and take it. I'd rather fight till my last blood not run away like cowards. You guys are bunch of lazy coward, no wonder the whites segregated you for over 4 decades because you can't bite.

N:B all4naija is back, if you don't know me lady ask from your country men Mdza or Morpheus and co. It's time I returned you guys back to apartheid era on nairaland like you were when I was in active service. I'd be waiting for you all.

This is me all49ja representing my nation with the facts

This guy you still dey here.

na wa o!

You be soldier for Nairaland. Respect

Jayceon:
maybe it's that N63 billion they "donated" to SA during trying times that's got them thinking that their unsolicited opinions count for shìt

Ohh a government that works "promotes laziness"? That's interesting that people can form long queues under blazing west African sun to elect leaders that don't care about the citizens..mmm

Not worth a response.

Gibberish!

Lionessza:
Remember Jace to them a government that cares about its vulnerable citizens is promoting " laziness "lol. They would rather see those kids(some as young as 10) being "industrious " aka hawking on the streets and begging or taking that boat ride to slavery. Maybe it's their money coz it really pains them.

The Vulnerable in society are the elderly and the kids not full grown fat azz men and women toyi toyi on the streets.

Jayceon:
This outsiders are something else I tell ya,they are pained by the south African government taking care of our senior citizens and homeless children as if the money is stolen from Nigeria...choiiii

Please have some respect and refer to other Africans in a dignified manner. I prefer foreign nationals or refer to me by my nationality if you don't mind.

This 'Uitlander" reference is indicative of your colonized minds.

Like I said earlier why should anyone be pained for taking care of senior citizens or homeless kids with makeshift one room RDP houses. I am concerned at the rate these poor gugu's are left with illegitimate children being dumped and running around those houses with no mothers or fathers to take care of them

Jayceon:
Every person with fully functioning brain cells know exactly what Helen meant with those remarks but it seems it upsets outsiders more than South Africans

Its a ridiculous and insensitive statement, especially considering the history of the country in terms of what colonialism and Apatheid had especially done to the natives.

Many a White in SA cannot grasp this concept as they have always been on the other side of the fence as is Madam Zille, regardless of how much she has fought for equality. ITs called White Priviledge or in my own words. White audacity.

DictatorZAR1:
Missed you too Moffie.

Last time we had an disagreement on NL I got banned for life by your resident fuucktaard mods so I will let your palm wine induced base less rants slide for now.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Its cause you were a very emotional Saffer then and were very sensitive. I hope you have grown up a little and had time to reflect

Veron265:
Bless.....

Well, I'm largely coming in on a spiritual quest.....a demain to fulfil a 10 year dream.
Experience the Lagos vibe, cuisine etc. I'm excited about it, it's been long overdue.

My friend is banking on her aquaintances hooking her up etc. So no Job yet.

What has been your experience with the visa process etc.
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Ré Lagos....
Any recommendations
Not to miss attractions.
General advice

Its a 2 wk trip

lol, I hope you are not coming to SCOAN to see Pastor TB Joshua o, lol

I don't know about your friends acquintance, **cough**, unless its heading towards marriage then fine, if not as far as long term, I would be skeptical.

As far as where to go well African babe has mentioned some good places. I will just add some others for night moves

Club Spice lounge
CLub Sip on Fridays
D'place in Lekki phase one. Good food, stay away from the Asun unless you can handle pepper
E Bar, good place to relax on friday nights but also good on sundays. Very chilled. Try their isi ewu there, very good
Sailors or bay lounge also in lekki, they have live entertainment

There is a market, I can't remember what roundabout in lekki it is, they sell beautiful artifacts for cheap, Ask around and they will tell you where it is.

Hope you have fun and have great testimonies to take back to your people.

PS. Speak up in Naija, we are very animated people but learn to draw the line between arrogance and confidence when you interact with the lay man in lagos

Veron265:
I've screenshot your input and will pass it on to her.
You raise very good points.
Thank you very much.

P.s.
You seem to know a lot about the Visa proc etc.
We're still sorting that out.
Folks are claiming we need an 'agent' in order to secure one etc.

The visa process is straightforward, you can go to embassy, usually they require someone inviting you before you leave and will sometimes call that person to verify. An agent is fine because the guys at the embassy know them already so they buypass some additional checks.

Veron265:
My friend and I are planning on visiting Lagos next month, fingers crossed.

She's dead Set on not returning....unlike Afrikanbabe, she hasn't been to Nigeria before.
She's aware of the pros and cons......so I guess, in a population of about 50 mil pax, there are SA babes wanting and willing to relocate.

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The thread prior to being derailed has been super healthy, thank you!

My dear Veron265, she is not fully aware of the pros and cons, trust us Nigerians on that, someone who has not visited or lived in Nigeria for a while will surely have a romanticized view of the city. Lagos can be exciting if you are visiting for a shore time and have a host to show you around, however it is a fast city very much like Johannesburg and if you end up in the wrong area, not very good for you.

Visit first and if you "feel" the city like Africanbabe you can make an informed decision. I usually suggest when SA's come to lagos my recommendations if they don't have a host is "four points" hotel on the island, very nice place and location to experience lagos.

It is close to everything on the island and the night life around the area is great for tourists. Its also a safer area to hang out until the late hours of the night.

Ps, I know they usually give SA's a 3 month visa reciprocal to SA visas so I don't know how your friend is planning to stay longer than her visa expiration date. Lagos is not Johannesburg were one can blend into Yeoville or hillbrow or sunnyside in pretoria. You will stick out like a sore thumb

ZarZar:
Mtcweeeeeeew. Get a life!

I could respond with a nasty "voetsek" but the gentleman in me prefers "have a nice day!"

ZarZar:
"Appropriate manner" according to whom?

According to the rules of the forum. READ them!

ZarZar:
The fact that we're already discussing things unrelated to the subject matter, means that it's not longer relevant. You're the one that needs a reality check for thinking we need a stamp of approval before moving on to something else.

This doesn't deserve an intelligent response. Refer back to the above initial response.

ZarZar:
Oh shush! What argument is to be won? Are we in court here? Not everyone puts as much importance on online stuff as some of you do. Once whatever disagreement is over with, some of us actually move on with our lives.

Then move on in an appropriate manner. What is the correlation with drinking stout and the topic that was initially being discussed. Appropriateness and decorum would dictate you open up a thread for SA's to come discuss "The travelling habits of SA's" but then again there aren't enough of you here and the the threads would probably stop at page 2 or 3.

DictatorZAR1:
As a SA citizen I wish the gov can buy me a new car.

Why should your government buy an able bodied individual with the ability to be productive a car for FREE!

DictatorZAR1:
Some of you fuccckers here like to spew garbage everytime a name like SA comes up. Is it bcus of jealousy or plain ignorance.

Not sure why anyone would be jealous of close to 300 years of colonial/settler oppression, mass murders, rape, segregation and the likes simply because some black BEE tenderpreneurs have some money to spend on goods they do not produce[/quote]

DictatorZAR1:
You fuccckers hate SA bcus we give grants to our Elderly well its not our fault that your FG can't even look after your most vulnerable in your pathetic society no wonder more then 100m of you fuccccckeras are still under the poverty line.

If you ask me those grannies need them grants because the rate at which they are taking care of additional grankids that are dumped on them, they would collapse or die early of physical and mental exhaustion[/quote]

DictatorZAR1:
Go educate yourself before you come and spew shhhiiit then call it SA xenophobia. Focus on solving your country's problems before pointing fingers from your shiIthole.

SA in recession is still x100 better then Nigeria ever will be.

Yes it is because it was a settler country with the legacy of colonialism that brought development so says "Helen Zille" and many white SA's

"surely you are not prohibited to write your own isikwerekwere"


@MdZU

Can you imagine this dirty Kaffir.

Pidgin2:
After all said and done the South Africans have succeeded in derailing this thread. ZarZar and her mufasa lionesses have diverted all attention to themselves, the OP who opened the thread looking for a job has left, una lucky say na online bi diz

Diversionary tactic to create a perception that they somehow have won an argument when in reality is not the case. They are simply jabbering

MduZA:
Mfethu" remind me about yourself...i remember "fokol ngawe"

Illiterate in action. How am I suppose to decipher what the last two words of your response mean. This is not alexandra township. Speak english no fanaglo here.

Jayceon:
Let me sum up all the unoriginal,repetitive vomit they usually spew before I exit this useless topic...

-hiv country
-their economy is controled by their white masters
-nigeria is giant of africa
-xenophobic lazy zulus
-south africa will be another zimbabwe
-Southies are not adventurous(my favorite )
-we steal their women
-our GDP
-blah bla blah blah,more yada yada less ching ching

i guarantee you mami, I will not touch on one of these topics when I attack the 3 of you going forward but will still destroy you.

You can quote me on that Wena!

Jayceon:
And I should be intimidated by this .you should ask your folks who ratted me out to the mods when it got hot in the kitchen.DONT START A FIRE THAT YOU WONT BE ABLE TO PUT OUT

very well then!

Morpheus24 is on you now.

Trust me you will regret this very much so. I guarantee it

Jayceon:
that "SA this SA that" tune is going to end,Lionessza,ZarZar and of cause Me are gonna end it.we are the motherfücking Three Musketeers so any mumu villager that think they can talk smack about the Mighty Republic of SA and get away with it are dead wrong,we will be at their service...TRUST THAT AND BELIEVE THAT

Obviously you guys don't know about me on this forum. This is my good and polite side, better ask your comrade MDuZa and the rest of the SA gang on Nairaland before you look for trouble that you will regret starting. You must think you are dealing with Uche from Nnewi or those Nigerians you see on your streets in Yeoville.

You have been warned!!!

wahabian:
Doesn't matter.Just come over here,locate them and they will fix you up.You will also have SA communities in Nigeria,link up with them .That's a good way to start.

I don't think that is advisable for her unless she has a good amount of money saved up or has a sponsor or people she can stay with while she is trying to do that.

The SA community in Nigeria are mostly White, the only blacks I am aware of work at the embassy, some banks and some energy companies and don't have any official organizations that cater for their people.