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I dont like the fact that she took her present post but There is absolutely nothing wrong in what she said, She Risked her life in fighting fake drug dealers whilst @ Nafdac, so for a fellow woman, I mean even Older woman of 74yrs to come out and say that she is unable to perform a function she was empowered to do, becos she is afraid, and wants to be crowned a heroine is totally wrong,

mogentle:
@Kobo[/b]junkie and @ Moves
You guys are just ranting since, i've been monitoring this Kobononsense contributions. Kobo was comparing Adenike Grange's resignation to Mrs Ayoka's, does that make sense at all?  Must u compare just anything all because u want to discredit Mrs Ayoka's action.
    Hear this, Rome was not built in a day, wether u like it or not, the woman has done her best. It may not be so easy to come out to name who's who just like that, that can wait tilll after resignation. Meanwhile you guys cannot tell me she did not state the reason for her resignation in her letter.
Do you expect her to just start to adress press coference like that? That will not be civil enough.
It's a matter of one after the other. Now she has been invited to shed more light on her letter, from their she may tell them more that are not in the resignation letter.

So [b]Kobojunkie, If you and I can even do the little that this woman has done(the action u are discrediting) i believe this Nigeria will surely change for better.  
As for Dora, She is wearing a white dress and she did not mind playing with red oil, she should not complain of spots later in the day.

I have commended her on her opting to thread the part of honour by not doing the bidding of the Cabal (note this is still an unsubstanciated allegation until she comes out to say what went on), but she falls short of being a heroine by not stating what exactly transpired, hence the import of her resignation pales into significance, Now we are hearing that she might have been bribed by Tinubu N200 million, Now the Integrity that she wants to preserve is being questioned and rightly so, as long as she continues to leave us in the dark, I my own book she hasnt done anything, As a xtian did she omit the book of Esther in the bible, Esther said if I perish I Perish, and this was a young queen, This is the problem with Nigeria, we dont want to make sacrifices even if it might enhance the future of the next generations, we sell our votes for few naira's , This drama continues,

Well- This is the correct action, when I stated in the other thread that she should have gone the whole hog to name & shame what is going on, if not that her rare action would pale into significance people thought i was being childish, now within the space of 24hours she gone from almost being a heroine to being a wanted person, if @ 74 she is still afraid of making a decision cos she is afraid for her life.and cos she is a xtian, something is not right, she no wan go heaven , well Gani who is a muslim, speaks up all the time amidst threats , am guessing the 7 virgins awaiting him is more attractive than what a xtian woman will get, I have said it before, with nigerian politics the more you look the less you see, she should have just done us a keep quiet as we are none the wiser, as this will embolden the political cabal that no one can successfully take them on, it is either you do their bidding or quit, not good enough

mikeansy:
Mrs Adebayo's reaction and resignation is very courageous

And that is the standard way of protest anywhere in the world as a Government Functionary

So also is whistle blowing and She owns it to herself and posterity to go the whole hog if not her courageous action pales into insignificance as a new REC might just do what she claims she's being compelled to do. Hence the below is what is required of her having shown such rare courage

Kobojunkie:
The AC said Mrs. Adebayo must confirm her strength of character and go the whole hog by telling Nigerians her own side of the story, so that she would not be misunderstood or mis-represented.

“Nigerians will like to know what has transpired at the election, especially in the controversial local governments, as well as those who are putting her under pressure to act against her conscience.

[b]The party said if Mrs. Adebayo stayed true to her conscience, she could become a redeeming force for democracy as well as for INEC, which it said had willfully colluded in the past with the police to thwart the will of the people.

“Our sincere hope, therefore, is that she will not crumble under pressure from rampaging vote-thieves and perpetrators of brigandage. Her reward - writing her name in gold - will be long-lasting and definitely more than what the rapacious and desperate politicians from the PDP can offer her,” the party said.

Kobojunkie:
haha! very funny, now Try again!!!

Seriously -Most things in naija politics is not that straight forward, I personally tend to view naija political events in light of which of the political actors stand to gain most from a situation. I would have thought that for her to refuse to announce the result of the election, thereby resigning her position well personally @74 she should just name & shame the bastards behind the plot to compel her to declare a fake result, her resigning am sorry doesnt go long enough,

I understand what Kobo, is saying-- We dont have the facts yet, Until Mrs Adebayo release a press statement stating that she is being compelled todeclare fake result and have the gut and inner strength to mention those pilling pressure on her, then am sorry dont believe it 100%, It could be OBj showing his hand here seeing her closeness to Obj- What has Obj got to gain from it--well His relevance in PDP he cornered the whole Southwest bar Lagos for them in 2003 didnt he, So Mrs Adebayo instead of going all the way to report to SSS in Abuja should have called a press conference even putside the country to say credibly the guilty party, cos naija politicians & politics is way too cunning,

I thought it was illegal for commisioners to ran business while still in the employment of the state, just like civil servants are not allowed to legally own businesses, more avenue to corner the agric loans, see initiave

Such things will continue becos we have a govt that is inept, If it was a british doctor being alleged; the british govt will pounce on the media house to provide evidences or investigate the matter or else apologise if it was a lie; but the Idiots we have as diplomats in Jamaica dont give a shit; if they come out and question both the media house and the Jamaican govt and Hospital the truth of the matter will be revealed; till our represntatives in these countries start being proactive in issues that concern our national integrity, there is no end in sight, Personally, the whole story sounds unthruthful from many angles but when a lie is being purported and left unchallenged then it easily becomes accepted as truth

Pataki:
There are destitutes from Niger, from Chad, from Benin Republic all in Lagos. Yet to some people here, it is illegal to deport them back to their states, since we are all in the same country, same continent and probably they are even claiming Lagos or even another state in Nigeria.

Since when are these part of the nigerian states, What am against is simply the deportation of Nigerians to their state of Origin on the account of their Financial Incapacity,

Pataki:
So you think it is only Oyo state that got the deportation package? Na wa o!

I have seen destitutes here in the UK, I have destitutes in Europe at large. No country is devoid of destitutes. Even Jesus affirmed to that fact. But the sole question is that: who takes care of these destitutes? Why must Lagos be responsible for destitutes from Zamfara? Why why why

So because Lagos is on a re-development program, citizens of other states must now flock there and expect to live on the financial resources of that state when their own respective states should take a leaf and do what is expected of them as a state. Please nothing Fashola has done is illegal. This is a simple matter.

And in which of those countries have their indigenes been forcefully relocated or deported, NONE
Am a lagosian by descent but this is wrong; there is nothing like citizen of lagos but nigerian citizen, so my grudge is the fact that they are Nigerians first, and derserve the right that every other nigerian have in lagos state, if other destitudes are being catered for; the should enjoy same, It is about time we do away with this state of Origin madness, Aside so it is alright to collect taxes from indigenes of other states but when they are destitudes you deport them, That is Inhuman.

tpia:
show me a country without destitutes.

I meant the socalled destitudes being deported in their own country, They left the home towns to come to lagos to seek work or better themselves not that they set off with intentions of coming to lagos to beg

Pataki:
No it is not illegal. Committing a crime in Lagos, you have to pay for the crime you have committed in the state in which it was committed. Hoping to live on the benefits of a state which is not your state should not be allowed. Fashola has not rejected beggars from Lagos state, rather beggars from other states, should go back to their state and let their state handle its affairs. It is that simple.

If the ruling Elite have not siphoned the colmmonwealth of this destitudes, they wont be destitude if the first place, Fashola has no right to forcefully relocate anybody from lagos state, as theyare Nigerians, You dont treat illegality with Illegality fashola being as SAN should know that? Whatever Benefit they are  allocated in Lagos state they get it as nigerians, Well he might as well go the whole hog by deporting all the hausa beggars back to the north as see what we follow, I have an inkling that its Tinubu calling such shots to embarrass the PDP govt in Oyo, It is Unfair to use the less priviledge as pawns

Pataki:
@ Kobojunkie,
See, you are spoiling for this to get personal. What relevance does my age play with this discussion? Who started the personal confrontation?

I would ignore that you have issues and keep drumming back to you where your arguments are flawed. SHOW ME HOW THE ACTIONS OF LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT IS WRONG?
You are simply jumping ahead of yourself. I have asked of you. . . . . . .
Answer my question or best still hide under your Roflmao!!!!!!

@ Pataki -- Are those con indigenes that commit crime in lagos deported as well to their respective states of origin to serve their sentences or after serving their sentences, Also all those agberos and areas boys have they been deported as well, this is just BRF starting illegality or the helpless and starting to question the intelligence as all his policy seems to have human costs -- And this is not always a problem but when in all cases it tends to affect the least and less priviledge amongst the society it becomes one, This is illegal

This is Totally Wrong, It is an abuse of executive powers, Until we start showing respect for the rights of the less priviledge ones amongst us, then the change we require wont come, If fashola being a SAN can be party to such human right abuse, then all hope is lost, It is not a crime to be destitude, They are beggars in almost every major city of the western world, and they are not forcefully deporting their citizens, WTF they are nigerians?

Well Congrats Chelsea fans, But sorry, I dont think you guys will be a match for Barcelona, not with the Current Form, Etoo, Thierry, Messi , Its All Over, CL Final --Arsenal v Barcelona, let the beautiful game be played

tamme:
According to her, "I implore every Nigerian to join me as we begin this process of renewing our minds. For our religious leaders, I know you will take this campaign as your own and preach it from church to church.

"If there is one thing certain about Nigerians, it is their respect for spiritual authorities; they will listen and believe you when you tell them that this government means well in this re-branding campaign," she said.

Not Anymore, Some of us actually can question the so called religious leaders, Am starting to question this woman's integrity if she could actually make such a statement

@ Kobo, I have personally experienced banking service Pre- Recapitalisation era and Post Recapitalisation and I can attest to improvement in service; Also the simple fact that Recapitalisation- with an increase of 25 times capital base enable the banks to expand their activities which had spin offs such as employmenst as more branches and associated services means more staffs; also means more real estate to house branches and staffs, these are spinoffs. Even most ardent critics cannot dispute the good brought about by the Recapitalisation exercise,

Furthermore, Like you am not holding brief for Soludo; but I believe that Nigerian system should quit rubbishing people's work in order to relieve them of a post; If Yardull believe that Soludo does not fit into his style of doing things, he should just ask he to resign, simple, I also do not give a hoot what tribe the replacement is from; as long as (s)he is capable but based on Yardull performance as per selection, most likely another square peg in a round hole

I believe if Fashola really wanted to Have it done; It will be done; Where there is a Will there's always a way, He is the Executive Governor of Lagos State; The Whole of Lagos behind Him; he can build a 10000MW then Jettision PHCN both for distribution and the Federal Govt can go to Hell, The worst the FG would do is withold their federal allocation, well we have survived under mad dog Obj lagos can more than survive under Yardull, When the Northern state Implemented Sharia, the Heavens did not Fall

Kobojunkie:
That it raises the hopes of our FG makes me wonder why we continue to tolerate the same set of goons!!

Exactly; $12 million is Less than the Security Vote Gov Daniel get each month; hence he could have done these if he wanted to, so not seeing what hope this raises

If Gordon can still be Uk PM, with the role he played as chancellor; mervin king still retaining his post; Alan greenspan head is not being chopped off; then Soludo should be left alone; The Economic problem facing nigeria has nothing to do with soludo, it is a simply case of no leadership,
I believe that the Soludo has clarified his statements on the Issue of Nigeria be immuned from the Global Crisis, If you look at it from the origin of the crisis starting with the sub prime mortgage market and in nigeria our mortgage industry can be said to be of negligible % of financing or the Economy,
He also stated that No nigerian bank is going to fail--well none has failed yet
On the Stockmarket--If you Invested money and Lost that ur business, it is a risk you take; I have friends that have Lost £100k in 1 day on the FTSE, I have lost Millions of Naira on the NSE but that is a risk, hence the disclaimer informing investors that you can lose all your money and some will even tell you that you can lose more than you actually invested, Nothing to do with Soludo; and most of these Coys on the NSE are still making profit; and are not asking for Govt Bailout like the GM's et all
@Kobo - This Guy had the foresight to recapitalise the Banks years ahead the new stronger banks have changed and improved way better than what was obtained pre soludo era, This is a verifiable fact,  not forgeting the Spin offs of Employment; Real Estate development; Business Financing.
Yardua should not make this Soludo the fall guy for his incompetence

I am so glad about the new message, Pastor Adeboye is not known to be flamboyant, hence believing he would personally authorise such purchase sounds out of place, He is renowned to be modest even in his dressing, seriously wish other pastors in his church would emulate such modesty,

I agree with Him; Infact they should be charged with Intention to defraud the Govt; When U get contacted from nowhere that some looted government money needs to be laundered thru you, and you agree to go along, shows that you as an individual is criminally Inclined,

Mowire:
By the way, that you are a Lagosian does not change the fact that from your posts you know next to nothing about the[b] Lagos political terrain.[/b] You are not on ground here, your Colombus is way too far.

Are U saying the Political terrain has changed since then; the opposition is still there aren't they? Basically Fashola hardwork is shutting them up, that is what has changed

There is no need to lob the 2 together; Tinubu is Tinubu; Fashola is Fashola; whatever fashola achieves in his term, all accolades should go to him, Tinubu had his chance, 8 solid years, Obj did not start persecuting him immediately his tenure begun; less than 2 years Fashola is making good waves already, so pls Tinubu failed in his term, no need to accord him any praises of actions commited by fashola

Am not an Obj person; but I must say he held his own in the interview, doubt if any previous naija president would have done better, I just am shame that with the oppurtunity he had he didnt do better, and worse still bequeathed us with Baba Go Slow. Am sure if he had choosen someone in the mould of fashola, people wont be remembering his shortcomings as lagosians and have forgotten about Tinubu, Guess thats his greatest error and I think he must be regretting it now.

lucabrasi:
no worries sent a message to you

I didnt receive your message; can you please resend. the email address= smoves79 @gmail.com

No spaces, Thanks

Luca, can we talk, hit me up on my email smoves79 @ gmail.com , need to glean some biz info off you, thanks man

KnowAll:
as knowall said, you can never be a rich man in Europe. That smacks of a wrong focus in my view.

[b]There is a glass ceiling what a black man can attain, most White folks I know they are already millionaires by the time they are 40, I am not talking low lifers here, I am talking of White folks that have a degree and get a job in a blue chip company, by the time they 40 they are millionaire[/b]. For every 10 black students that have the same degree like their white folks 1 will get a job in a blue - chip and even there, there is a level they can attain. I remember a documentry I was watching about this black guy in silicon valley, he said he wants to sue his comapany, for discrimination he earns a $1 million dollars a year, so the guy doing the documentry was saying why do u want to sue your company most americans dont earn that kind of money. He said the guys he started with are on $10 million a year. Most Naijas in diasporas will be contented with earning $1 million dollars when in actual fact they should be earning $10 million dollars. In your own country there is nothing like that.

Where did you get this stats from - or do you mean millionaires in naira, cos the average earnings of degree holder with experience doesnt translate to being a millionaire, or maybe u r taking about access to credit,

Afaukwu:
Imam Blames FG Over Ethno-religious Crises

http://www.independentngonline.com/news/arew/article01

By Chinwendu Nnadozie , Reporter Minna
Islamic cleric, Imam Muhammad Ashafa, has blamed the Federal Government for the series of ethno-religious crises in parts of the country.

"traced some of the crisis he described as avoidable to Federal Government's policy of demanding for regional, religious tribal status from among Nigerians before employments are offered to them.
He regretted that what is happening in some states is a reflection of what is obtainable at the national level where issues of quota system is highly celebrated and wondered why the Federal Government should not adopt, "State of residence instead of state of origin and as well, principles of quota system be abolished."

Kudos to Him for seeing the Truth and speaking out,

But- We have auty Dora in the PDP, She is a better contestant than Ojo, Also there is Soludo as well.

I think we are getting wires crossed here, Feglu is your argument that
A, University education is not something necessarily required especially in the nigerian context
B, or that too much emphasis is been placed upon the importance of university education in nigeria

If your answer is Yes to both question, well considering the uniqueness of the nigerian situation and the quality of university education presently available, then you have a case, but kindly refrain from proclaiming that the situation is the same elsewhere like the Uk or US, , Recession aside, that are numerous yearly graduate job fairs in the UK, where coys recruits for fresh graduates.

The Question we should be asking is why Replace Soludo? Is there any law prohibiting his tenure from being renewed, The Guy is intelligent and within the context of nigeria or any where else has performed excellently, when u consider the amount of Political Interferences and Interest he has to contend with. We cant just oust him cause the north feel sidelined and want a northerner in that position