Politics › Re: This Guy Is A Legend by Moves: 1:23pm On Dec 16, 2008 |
The Other Journalist should have all joined to stone Bush; It takes bravado to do what he did; i hope one day nigerians will see the light that our leaders are humans and discover that power belongs to the people not to the few ruling elite. Instead of celebrating this thieving bastard that parade their stolen wealth; nigerians should publicly embarrass them as thieves, we they can no longer attend public functions, no longer celebrated as they are now; maybe then the urge to loot the blind will be curtailed. The Thai people have shown us they way; |
Politics › Re: $44 Million Fraud: Fbi Declares Nigerian Wanted Like Bin Ladin by Moves: 6:17pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Identity theft is a different kettle of fish all together; having been a vicim of it; u have to deal with it for the rest of your life, be it being detained extra @ airport for additional checks etc So I dont support it in any way or form; but for those that fall for email scams 419 promises of wealth stolen from africa; i say they also should be tried for conspiracy to defraud africa or nigeria; or for "intent" to be party to defrauding a state. It takes two to tango, |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 5:49pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
tharma: My very concern about corruption is not Ribadu as a person, but EFCC as an institution. In every organized society what u have is institutions that work perfectly very well without the need of a perticular man. This now makes it easy for the institution to perform its functions very well over a very long time. However institutions are managed by human beings, so in order for the institutions to work perfectly very well, the people that managed the institution have to be its blood, its life support, its frame work. So for the institution to survive and not loose its direction, smooth transition from one generation of work force to another have to take place. For instance, If a company is set up and employ staff, the staff are trained to achieve the goals and objectives of the company and if the company is doing well, the management is allowed to continue. If the shareholders feels the companys direction is drailing, they sit down and make new policies for the company to redirect the focus of the management. The management is always sacked or change when it is found out that its decision are failing the company. But in the case of EFCC what we have is a contratry. Nuhu Ribadu was given a mandate to create the organization. When the EFCC was set up, it has nothing, no office block. But this guy molded the EFCC into what we have today. He has employed staff, trained them, and of course both him and his new staff are learning. The government did not give him and his staff time to get the organization matured before dumping him and bringin in new people. Imagine chaning all the 12 principal investigating officers of the organization just over night? All their experience is wasted overnight. Transfering out all the well trained 300 police officers and send them back to the old police station where they will be force to collect N10 on the road. It will take years again for the new investigators to acquire the skills and confidence to tacke the corruption problem. Imagine Lamorde posted to Ningi! Ningi is one small local government in Bauchi and he will be doing nothing there. Imagine the experience he have gathered just wasting away. All the money the government paid for his training have become a waste. No any wise government will do that. What the present administration did to him, and the whole organisation was what we call Nigerian Factor. Anytime we have change of administration, the new administration will change the head of all government agencies and bring their own and mess the whole systmem. This is what we called lack of continuity. This is just contrary to what we have in organized societies. In organized societies head of government agencies are not changed without reason, and staff of government agencies are not transfered or deployed unnecessarily. And people are still bereft of the fact that an Ulterior motives is at hand. Wake up and smell the coffee |
Politics › Re: Quit Pretending, Lets Divide Nigeria, We Aint One: Period! by Moves: 5:42pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
It is too late in the day to break up nigeria; the problem we have is not of the different units but that of selfishness and bad leadership. In OBj house we have a one nigeria family; same goes for Atiku; same in my family. We have been intermarried with each other, the issues that seek to divide us affects us all-- Poverty, Bad Leadership and dividing the country is actually more headache than cure as u can see from the above comments |
Politics › Re: Nuhu Ribadu Video Interview With Us Journalist: Very Interesting! by Moves: 5:33pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
cre8tivity: @poster, many other nigerians including myself have also done many video interviews in the past regarding developing and moving nigeria out of darkness. the difference here is: some people believe in "do as i say and not as i do", while others prefer "do as i do". which side do you belong to? Send us a link please; And u should ask urself this same question? what camp do u belong to? Admit if the guy wasn't doing something right; global TV station wouldnt give him an ear, Admit the Guy tried but might now had reached ur very high expectations. Very Good Interview; an insight into what the man is about; atleast until proven otherwise |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 5:19pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
cre8tivity: i think the problem here is: nigerians are not used to people that sincerely fight for something without getting something nice out of it. when you defend what you stand for or share different view from the rest, it is an automatic mind set for them, the rest to think your last name is ibori or kalu. and this is very sad. the only way our country could move out of this darkness is by paying more attention to how our leaders or role models choose to handle things. and the best way/ time to judge a great leader is how he handles himself or operates when things are going bad for him. The problem is not having a divergent view; but inability to accept the validity of fact that counters ones views.[b][/b] |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 5:17pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Mamajama: ATTENTION
Please stop wasting your valuable times in trying to educate [size=20pt]cre8tivity[/size] Now I agree |
Politics › Re: That Govenor by Moves: 5:14pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
It is James Ibori; That ribadu touched him is not what the problem is; but the implication of it; by exposing him and his criminal records in the UK to public knowledge scuttled his future presidential ambition. |
Politics › Re: Ribadu And Recovered Funds by Moves: 5:02pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
@ Poster's It is with New thieves; especially now that the chief guard dog is being pursued, Its an all comers party. |
Politics › Re: Who Owns Saharareporters? by Moves: 4:56pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
@ texazzpete
It is human to Err; CNN, CBS etc get it wrong sometimes; we shouldnt throw away the baby with the bath water |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 4:51pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Muza: its funny and unfortunate that so many Nigerians are so myopic to think that EFCC was created just so that Ribadu could be its Chairman,HABA! Let the correct such ignorant thoughts,EFCC was not created for Ribadu.so wats the big deal if he is not there tmr. Its not that Waziri is doin a better job but one day we will get sm1 better. So in a country of >140m people,its only Ribadu that can fight corruption People are not peeved by the fact that he was removed as the head of EFCC, He cannot be there forever; I for one believe that appointing someone like dora akunyili will do well in that position if given the right backing, however am glad that ribadu did something even if it is creating awareness --hence he was promoted in recognition for his effort; his demotion is what people were against. They should have just left him alone after removing him from the EFCC; maybe not even promote till he retires; no but those who are after him were in a hurry and needed to show that they r now in control d but the following sequence of events is what is leading people to see the ulterior motives in play. |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 4:41pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
cre8tivity: it doesn't matter how much you've recovered, you must obeyed the rules. an american soldier that lost both legs fighting for his country would still come back home to obey the rules and regulations, or else he would be treated like a criminal. this is why it would take another 2000 years for nigeria to come close to america high standard. we are foolish and weak just like our constitution, and this is very sad. Nope I disagree; earlier this week a sitting gov; in chicago was arrested due to investigations carried out by the FBI which is similar to the EFCC; they had concluded their investigations and then arrested the gov; they didnt send out an invitation to come for questioning; he was arrested. Thats the way to fight corruption; not invited tyhe person; to let them know there r being investigated the try and start investigating -- that is our problem;;-that is the backward thinking that u r failing to accept Can u answer categorically if he was invited for Questioning? It is simple as yes or No. The fact remains that he is not being accused of anything by the EFCC; u & I know it |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 4:33pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Muza: where is that $6bn,Ribadu should tell us where it is? Hahaha; Did waziri tell u that they were missing while she was celebrating that FACT? |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 4:31pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
cre8tivity: the fact remains the same. the rules must be obeyed. without obeying the rules there is no future. FACTS Okiro was rapidly promoted why wasnt he demoted; The current Deputy IG Onovo is his Senior, what can one point to he had done to deserve a rapid promotion --zero Did ribadu promote himselve --Nope Does Ribadu deserve to be demoted-- Nope (Majority including Anti Ribadu's still waiting for Creativity answer) Rules to be Obey It seems one rule for Ribadu and for FG; When a case is in court- All parties maintain status quo till court decides Did ribadu obey yes; did FG ruse of law obey; nope they harrassed and humialited him at the graduation ceremony at NIPSS |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 4:16pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
cre8tivity: no clue at all. Thought as much |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 4:14pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Muza: he ddnt wear his uniform with his rank (which in his case is DCP) to the NIPSS Grad,nobody military or paramilitary officer has every done than.
He went in there as an AIG; thats is the rank that allows him to attend that course in the first place; so if he wasnt demoted he would wear the uniform; also the case is in court; so all parties must obey the status quo; which obviously the canvassers of the rule of law; decided not to follow.
He refused to report to his duty post (which is EDO),
Case is still in court- Hence he is deemed innocent until otherwise proven He refused to appear before EFFC to explain how he came about those houses in London,Dubai,Maitama . . .
The spoke person for EFCC has denied requiring ribadu for questioning; waziri herself said the invitation was for clarification - help to finish on going cases not answering allegations; those allegations have been there even before he left the EFCC, and he had asked his accusers to prove it
Need i say more? 
Please do, if u have any that we do not know Am not saying that Ribadu is a saint; not at all testimonies of his highhandedness etc abound; neither can we dispute his achievements in recovering close to $6Billion |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 4:04pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
scottN: Some psychophants r just using d excuse of disobedience of law to ridicule this guy. @ ScottN, there u just said, excuse thats what it is, they acted without thinking. He has not disobeyed any law; the only issue mentioned is that he appeared without wearing a uniform; And that was because he was wrongly demoted in the first place- hence the case is in the court; thats is obeying the law; he cannot be deemed to have disobeyed the law until the court rule on the matter, It's Just so Simple; we cannot becos of his past good or bad behavior change the law; Likened to Buhari or Atiku sending a conceding message to YarDull whilst appealing the election, it is so simple reasoning, lets not allow liking or disliking ribadu to becloud our judgement of right and wrong |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 3:48pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
cre8tivity: 1st, mr move doesn't understand many things, therefore it's makes no-sense to answer a question coming from someone that clearly doesn't have a clue. 2nd, the biggest mistake efcc could have made was to arrest ribadu without first exhausting all options. in-fact, it is known through out abuja that ribadu preferred to be arrested by the fg. this was the main reason why he was intentionally provoking the system. but his trick did not actualize.
A. For someone advocating for the adherence to following the law; and that all men be treated equally; u are shooting ur argument down by the above statement; so ribadu is now bigger than FG than if they arrest him it would be deemed a mistake; If they sent out an invitationto him to come for questioning say within 7days and he refused, they are well within their rights to arrest; question him for 48hours either release him or charge him to court. IT IS THAT SIMPLE---Thereby proving that all men are Equal. B. Are U saying he was wanted for questioning? C. If he was wanted for questioning he was @ NIPSS without any sort of Immunity why didnt EFCC or FG go there and arrest him like they would do to any other citizen. 3rd, fg has decided to be very careful handling this situation, they do not want anything revealed without first making sure that the evidences are legit "if only ribadu could have done the same during his time as the chairman, things could have been better". and this is why they haven't made any move to label ribadu as anything. the issues are still open. again, to be fair and civilized, let us not discussion the issues that are still open against ribadu. i'm sure that we'll do this when the time is right. as of now, he remains innocent. finally, regardless of the matter, the rule of law must still be obeyed. it is that simple.
D; This is blatantly incorrect; because if the FG was following the rule of law as u r purporting; They would first of all suspend him; continue investigating him; if found guilty then demote him and jail him. The sequence of events shows evidence of an ulterior motive E. Also if your point 3 is correct; they should have just left him alone; not demoting him; according to you "fg has decided to be very careful handling this situation, they do not want anything revealed without first making sure that the evidences are legit " so when they have collated and verified all evidences then the would nail him instead of the rubbish they did that u r supporting; let know ur stand answer d ?'s asked @ creativity; U must be a politician; if u r not; please go that direction; like the way u can deflect questions (seriously am not mocking u) |
Politics › Re: Appeal Dismissed Buhari And Atiku Are Crying, Yaradua And Co Are Laughing by Moves: 2:12pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
gaddafi81: LOL . . . you'll be surprised  Atleast for Now or Antecedent make us believe that debosky: I don't see how there is anything 'corrupt' about this ruling
Everyone knows Buhari and Atiku had no chance in hell of winning these elections. PDP and INEC rigged beyond measure of course, but even without that, Yar'adua would still have come out with a convincing victory. I agree; PDP outrigged AC & ANPP- All the parties are involved in rigging, atleast Atiku should know that. olanajim: I think the judgement is a blessing to Nigeria in many ways.
I blame Buhari and Atiku for their lost. The two men had the goodwill of Nigerians to wrest power from PDP. All the were expected to do is for one to step down for the other so that progressives would align with one candidate. But they stuck to the selfish personal ambition. I think Yar'adua has to complete his tenure. Let the opposition unite, and then restrategise for next election, Yeap; that there is the truth; no ounce of personal sacrifice for greater good; nope not in their bio; It's all about their personal Ambition. |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 2:03pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
cre8tivity: just in case you did not know: between sep 2008 and dec 2008, efcc has invited mr ribadu for at least 8 times, for questioning and clarification of some open issues, but the man clearly disregarded every single invitation. to be fair and civilized, do not let us go into those open issues, that is for another time. now question for you: what happened to those people that disregarded invitation from efcc when ribadu was the chairman? He wasn't invited for questioning; they wanted clarifications on ongoing investigation; and as i believe u have read his reply to their invitation; U didnt answer my question,please do, I will answer urs; They get arrested; That is what I would have expected the EFCC to do if they require him for questioning; but they couldn't because they do not require him for questioning but require him for help to aid them solve on going case; hope u see the difference; like i said earlier while he was @ NIPSS he had no immunity- so no excuse by the EFCC or Police. If anybody is required for question and fail to report themselve they get arrested. It's that simple. |
Politics › Re: Appeal Dismissed Buhari And Atiku Are Crying, Yaradua And Co Are Laughing by Moves: 1:24pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
I believe the right decision was made; from the 3 contestant; YARDULL is still the better option; Atiku is a no no; he was part and parcel of the Obj govt until they fell out due to Obj 3rd term ambition and Atiku's ambition to succeed him as president. Hopeful in the next few months he would rid himself of the political hanger on's and face working for the people; Atleast we know he is too dull to corruptly enrich himself. |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 1:18pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
@ Creativity-- I now see ur point; what u r saying is if the EFCC wants ribadu to appear he should like any other citizen --This point is very valid. But the EFCC have not said that they are invistigating ribadu or that he has commited any crime; they have not accused him or anything except u know of any kindly please post; which is why i believe he wasnt arrested all the while he was @ NIPSS; atleast we know he doesnt have any immunity. The Only thing widely publish is the request from waziri for a proper hand over; he ribadu refuted saying he doent need to as he had already handed over to lamorde; if u go a few pages back u will see post of this. A questions for your; as you have earlier stated that he is innocent until proven guilty; do you agree with the demotion of ribadu ? |
Travel › Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Moves: 4:55pm On Dec 11, 2008 |
@ Londoncool & Akowole;
A relative of mine had the appeal against a refusal of extension of student visa denied due to the £800 maintenance rule; and working over 40 hours a week during the holiday period; Is there a next step; or is this the end of the road. |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 6:32pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
@ creativity and Other Anti-Ribadu; What people are saying is that u cant vouch 100% for anyone; nobody is saying ribadu was a saint. What am disputing is that if Ribadu could arrest Tafa and Other Exgovs for alleged corruption, if the EFCC had evidence of him been culpable they could have arrested him while he was at the NIPSS, cos he doesnt have a immunity. By Demoting him; first based on the reason that the President promoted him; that in itself began the suscipion of ulterior motives. |
Politics › Re: Dislodgment Of Ribadu From The Force by Moves: 3:17pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
Mamajama: This action against Ribadu is vindictive and it's nothing but a power play between the Tafa boys. Add Ibori, Odili and Orji Kalu to that list; By exposing them openly as corrupt; he put paid to their presidential ambition. Hence they now want revenge. |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 3:05pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
cre8tivity: we now have many cases still open because mr ribadu refuses to cooperate. during ribadu's time as the chairman of efcc, do U need to come up with better reasons that the above pls; Ribadu was not the only employee of EFCC; the person Waziri took over from was the chief operations officer; so he would know stuffs more indepthly than ribadu. Nigerians @ this stage are more informed and clever; so the masses may not revolt but they still know the truth; They are after Ribadu becos he has thwarted the ambitions of Odili; Ibori; Kalu & co of being Presidents in future hence they want revenge. |
Politics › Re: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by Moves: 2:46pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
How can anybody in their right mind say that muslims are the majority in Lagos; @ Poster are you Ok; This can't happen |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 11:38am On Dec 10, 2008 |
@ Otukpo No one is saying that Ribadu should not be held accountable for his actions @ the helmsman of EFCC; Not at all; But there has been handwritings on the wall the wouldnt gave anybody in their sane mind the confidence of a fair hearing and guarantee their safety. 1. The manner in which he was removed from the EFCC- that never followed the rule of law or due process 2. His Demotion to 2level below; when the present IG and a whole lot of others were beneficiary of double promotion 3. He life is being threattned; he's been shot at 4. The Humiliation at the NIPSS graduation of both him and his families The above would indicate to anybody that they are being witch hunted- Hence common sense should tell the person to flee for their lives; He's safety is not guarantee; in a country where an attorney general can be murdered and nothing happened. The establishment were too much in a hurry to deal with him; if not they should have just left him as AIG; upon graduation the invite him to account for his stewardship; hence points 2-4 would have been removed and if he then refuses when can now say he has something to hide. |
Literature › Re: Who Is Your Best Novelist? by Moves: 5:31pm On Dec 09, 2008 |
Mario Puzo & James Hardly Chase |
Literature › Re: Which Books/Novels Are You Currently Reading? by Moves: 5:28pm On Dec 09, 2008 |
A Piece of Cake by Cupcake Brown ; highly recommended autobio. |
Travel › Re: Getting Married For The Green Card (Citizenship) by Moves: 5:05pm On Dec 09, 2008 |
idocare: I agree with you when you say there are all kinds of reasons people use others; I believe my ex reason was denials he received from the embassey the times he tried to come on his own. Back then I didn't know much about immigration and how some other countries want to be in America. I didn't know that your passport is stamped every time you attempt to migrate and I really didn't know that his last attempt to migrate the moral way was denied within a very short period of him wooing me to the alter.
Well I guess ur case is different and can be perceived clearly as a case of marriage scam; but u must also accept part of the blame for not doing your due dilligence on the issue before getting married.
Actually I feel that any man that can plant and seed and stay around long enough to name it then abandon that seed without knowing how the seed is sprouting has some serious issues within themselves, especially if they continue to call themselves religious, there's nothing holy about marrying for greencard benefits and planting a seed that they know they have zero intentions of sticking around for.
People that have done that to others may be laughing now and having a good time talking to family and friends about how the whole scam played out, but they just don't realize that they are also telling them that they care about nobody but themselves and could at any time also scam them. Just as they can turn there back on the children they create; they must find it equally easy to do the same to the other family members as well.
Many people are still too embarressed to talk about being a victim of a marriage scam however I've always been one to be honest and call it what it is.
I'm still wondering if that's how professionals act in my ex homeland Nigeria, do they go after what they want at the expense of hurting others, I'm wondering if his family is ashamed of what he's done or if they're high fiving him for all the hurt and pain that he has brought on me and his son, or do they even realize the deptness of the situation we all find ourselves in.
I can categorical tell you that no one will high five anyone for abandoning his family; especially his young child, and there is no need for generalisation- Most professionals in nigeria wont behave this way; most professionals on decent pay will get visa to Uk or US easily; also i wonder why a medical doctor who is doing well in nigeria will go to that extent to leave the country.
between- Marriage scams is not only perpetuated by anyone country; it involves citizen of every, UK & US citizen included. I wonder sometimes at the premium people place on "greencard" that u may end up losing or being chased for alimony paymentsfor the rest of ur life |
Politics › Re: Ribadu Flees Nigeria? by Moves: 3:45pm On Dec 09, 2008 |
cre8tivity: it will be officially announced soon that ribadu has been dismissed. this is what happens when you feel like you're too big to obey the rules of a nation. could someone please tell me what happens to an employee that refuses to show up for work? guys, do not let us play foolish, the stunt ribadu is currently displaying wouldn't be accepted in any developed country regardless of what may be going on. nigeria is a country that has rules and regulations, these rules are not there for decoration. if we want to see a great nigeria once again in our life time, the citizens must be treated equally and must also obey the rules 24/7. nigeria is not a burger king, therefore, ribadu should not be allowed to have it his way. efcc chairman is a position just like any other fg positions. it is very important for one not to develop a big head because of any position, especially fg positions. ribadu as a dismissed federal government official has disqualified himself from contesting for any fg or political positions forever. this is what happens when we operate like a bush-man. i'm very sorry, ribadu is not a bright man or a true leader and i'm not sure if he will be missed at all. democracy must live forever. if ribadu is mis-bahaving at this stage of his career, what exactly should one expect from him as the ig? What Planet are you on; which takes precedence; your personal safety or your job; using ur analogy about the work place; if you went into work today without any pre-existing issues and u r told u have been demoted 2 levels below, based on the premise that u had arapid promotion especially when is coming from a senior colleague who had same rapid promotion. And stop fooling urself since when did the nigeria police become an organisation that operate within the rules and regulation of the constitution. I personally think u r being sarcastic with u post; u cant really mean the imports of your statement. Ribadu may not be a saint; but the NPF by their action has rubbish the emerge of nigeria as a country to be taking seriously in the comity of nations. U should read the commentaries of seasoned journalist; legal minds e.g Gani and even ribadu's critics that the treatment meted out to ribadu, they all cant be stupid. Also there is the public outcry- so unless u or a relative have an axe to grind with ribadu only then will i understand ur disposition. |