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Ukuts gp: There is nowhere infants are baptised in the bible and there is nowhere baptism is done by sprinkling. It is a doctrine from the pit of hell which should be rejected. The catholic does not know anything that is why they are dancing round a circle. They cant defend their barbaric doctrine with the bible cos all they know is mere dogma and human tradition which God does nt command. Their doctrine is man made. Matthew 15:7-8.
Another thing is that they have been indoctrinated with demonic doctrine. 1 timothy 4:1-2. Those who are deep in catholic will tell u that it is not better than a cult.
I know a lot of people who hv repented from catholic, who are really deep in catholic and i even hv some of their books from them, where most of their secret deeds are exposed. Pls no one should believe d catholic, that was why catholic is dividing everyday, cos their doctrine doesn't match with the bible.

exactly. And they still argue

POPE II: We don't have anything to prove to heretic bastards like you . We are God's Church the only true and apostolic church, we are not a manmade church and we are definitively not in the same league. How dare you question the Holy Church?

I will ask you to stop persecuting Gods Children for your own good.

this one is high on lacasera or somtin. See mr man i was once a catholic ok.so dont decieve your self on here. Using the word 'bastards' is uncalled for ok. Just calm down and defend your doctrines in a civilized way

woky: exactly the main reason why i dnt wnt to answer them.. Very annoyin set of pple! They jst want you to aswer so that they wil start displaying thr ignorance..

no oh. Oga woky your own case is different

Conner44: Answered what correctly? See how you are shamelessly trying to waive the answer he gave you

Must you copy and paste? Even in your posts I see statements like "click on photo for high resolution", must you try to copy even the images too?

Na wao ohhhhhhh! And some people here actually think you are versed in the scriptures. Na your type of pastor go dey take iPad dey preach for pulpit with Google open ontop am

CHANGE YOUR WAYS, FACE YOUR CHURCH, PRAY TO GOD, READ YOUR BIBLE, GET A JOB and stop questioning what is obviously bigger than you

that is irrelivant. Besides the same google is open for you to use. Still u havent made any meaningful input hia. Just making silly noise ever since. Bro proove your doctrine! That is what we want. I believe u can read

unongu: Your historical account on how the rosary emanated is hogwash... The Rosary, in descriptive term, is a simple praying tool made of beads and string, which helps the Catholics to remember God. About 90% of the Rosary is directly from the Bible. If you say your Rosary daily and meditate on its mysteries, it will bring down many graces from heaven to you. It will strengthen you to overcome temptation, and to grow holy. It will lead you straight to heaven, and away from the devil. Habitual sin will no longer be a part of your life.

this guy must be a confused fellow. Can u tell us now how ur ''bead'' (rosary) emanated? What kind of grace does it give you? Imagine him saying '' it will lead you straight to heaven'' lies lies lies. Without holiness no man SHALL see the lord. No wonder i left the catholic church. These lies were so much for me to handle. No scriptural backing to worsen things. I hope God opens your eyes somday. Amen

mavister: More!

If sola Scriptura cannot be the correct method of determining truth because of the religious division among churches that claim to use sola Scriptura, then does this not also disqualify the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches method of using tradition, since they are divided against themselves?

such a briliant question. Most of them dont even know the history of their church. If i was a catholic and cant defend my self ehn? It would be shameful o. I wonder how they still have mouth to reply after they havent answered my questions. Shame shame .yuk!

Conner44: It's doesn't change the fact that she is right. Stop hating the Catholic Church, it is bigger than you, your family, your generation, your village , your home town, your state of origin, your country, your continent andyyour existence.

Only the HOLY TRINITY supersedes the Catholic Church

stop wasting time. Answer my questions. Besides was jesus a catholic? Why all this 'my church is the biggest'? Ok if it wil please u. My church is the smallest. You ok now?

mavister: lolz.they are even confused within themselves,

thought i was the only one who noticed it.

" Systematic Murder of Believers--The Untold History of the Inquisition" (this article is written by a former Roman Catholic priest). It is said thatduring the approximately 600 years of the Roman Catholic Inquisition, tens of millions of Christians were tortured and murdered.Why the killing spree? Primarily to suppress any and all opposition to her heresies. "Side benefits" included taking the material wealth of her victims and showing the pope's power terrorizing people and keeping them in line believing Romish superstitions and heresies.Roman Catholic agents have tortured, crippled, burned, murdered, mutilated, and imprisioned millions of Christians. Rome's inquisitors hunted down Christians and had whole towns and cities wiped out, murdered.Whatever happened to love your enemies (ref. Matthew 5:44)?A look at papal decrees and letters reveals that the Inquisition was carried outunder the instigation and authority of the popes of Rome(e.g. Pope Innocent IV's 1252 A.D. bull, "Ad Extirpanda" which gives laws and commands "To root up from the midst of Christian people the weed of heretical wickedness." Law 4 instructs the "twelve upright and Catholic men" et al (of Law 3) as follows-- "Those...appointed may and should seize the heretical men and women and carry off their possessions and cause these to be carried off by others...".The office of the Inquisition has only changed its name--according to wikipedia, it was "Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition" and it is now called "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith" (CDF) (Congregatio pro Doctrina Fidei).

unongu: There is nothing worth defending here, besides, the Catholic Church do not need to defend self from any misconception whatsoever, not even yours. However, for the benefit of clearing doubts and exposing the folly of critics and misguided Christian brethren, Please get the book titled: "The Twenty-Seven Most Common Misconceptions About The Catholic Church" written by Moses Unongu. Soft copy available online! Call 08068700027 for the book and your doubts about the Catholic Church will be cleared forever!!!

hahahhaha business man. Why not answer the few here. Hahahha

try69: @mamavister tell me what you decipher from the words below, so I can know if to reason with you

"Birth Control – the words are not very proper because those who believe in it actually believe neither in birth or control” - Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen.

Oya FACULTY101 test

Answer pls..

this guy is so so pathetic. He fails to answer the threads questions. Hecant even know d difference btw 'mamavister' and the guys name 'mavister' u think you are funny? See the way mavister is lashing you all.. What a SHAME. KINDLY RE-READ YOUR POST YOU WILL KNOW WHAT U JUST SAID. TALKING OF BIRTH CONTROL? u always run away from d subjest matter

highyo: sorry many deeper life uses rubber and wool thread thinking its safe to use it, forgotten the meaning of attachment

when saying something do not be biased. I think you are trying to attack deeperlifers for no reason whatsoever? The church you attend, tell me how they braid their hair

woky: lolz

you jst remind me of what happend in the book of Luke 4:3-4

what happened in the book of luke 4:3-4. Besides.. U also have the opportunity to answer my questions. Na italo una dey depend on? He hasnt been able to defend y'all why not say somthing for ur self? Heaven na personal race oh.

italo: ^^^

speechless isnt it?

italo: Luke 23:9 He plied him with many questions, but Jesus gave him no answer. 10 The chief priests and the teachers of the law were standing there, vehemently accusing him. 11 Then Herod and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked him...

Let me do like the Master did before his accusers.

doing like the master isnt it? Come to think of it. U dint do like the master here
https://www.nairaland.com/1503616/please-there-anything-like-purgatory

u dint do like the master here
http://www.nairaland.com /1506699/jman05-please- defend-jehovahs-witnesses
yet you come here to say u ''want to do like the master'' .u havent answered my questions. And to me i call that cowardice. Doing like the master isnt it? Until i catch u arguing in another thread. U just decieving your self bro. I still await your answers

italo: Even though I have treated the questions before, I didn't tell you the bold.

see how he contradicts himself.. Pls kindly defend your catholic doctrines.. Every other thing is not welcomed

italo: Is this 'going behind someone's back?'

italo should i speak latin? Pls answer the questions on dis thread.. Abeg na

italo: Even though I have treated the questions before, I didn't tell you the bold.

Why do you lie?

Should anyone discuss with you if you will lie openly like this?

bro u dont have to be confused here ok. What i mean is that u said u have treated such questions but no links provided for us to see such. Or did u provide any? Ehn ehn?

italo: I visited the thread and found nothing but blank space.

...and since you have listed the teachings you want me to defend with a huge gaping blank space...not even a title, I have equally made a detailed response to you with a blank space.

Please go through and let me know any answer you're not satisfied with.

Thank you.

mr italo kindly face the subject matter and leave frivolities. We all await your answers

JMAN05: No. I didnt ask him to create a thread. I just told him to feel free to criticise any of our current teaching he feels is against the bible. Even though he derailed and start talking about a changed teaching, I never gave up in reminding him my earlier request, and even replied some unsupported inputs. If you know what you believe, thread name is no problem. at least the name is not that bad.

His inputing Italo's name should even be a privilege. at least among many other catholics, he is recognized. maybe the guy who opened it know Italo as a champion of catholic doctrine here. So he wants to direct it to him straight.

and he came on here saying you guys had a mutual agreement to that respect. Well thats between u both.. But i visited that thread in which he tagged your name in the topic and i saw u dint even start saying he should remove your name. U tried ur very best to defend ur doctrine and churxh belief even though he went at ur back to open a thread in your name.. Now i did so. He evades my questions and focuses on his name..

JMAN05: @op

You should have known that some of their teachings are not bible based, they are just traditional teaching, some of which contradict the bible.

If you want to follow only the bible, then you aren't talking Catholic.

little wonder he hasnt even answered the questions.. He knows very well there is nothing to say. Perhaps the pope would call his guards on me if i threw such heart-hitting questions at him. Lol i still await answers though

woky: u jst wnt him to answer so dat u wil start displaying ur ignorance abi...hmmm

bro i indicating italo's name there doesnt mean the questions go to him alone. U are a catholic. Why linger on this issue? Why not come out to proove strongly what u believe in? Or do u believe in somtin u know notin about? Pls answer the questions

woky: i no dy answer!!

hhahhahahahhaha but why?? Need a bible?

italo: There's no need to 'merry-go-round.'

If I have done wrong or told a lie on this thread, please point it out.

he says he has treated the questions i asked in similar threads yet no link to them.. Hmm.. Yet he doesnt answer the questions.. Am still waiting patiently.. Pls to the other catholics.. Dnt just stand dia abd be gazing.. Kindly reply my questions. Please

Afternoon brothers and sisters. On seeing the topic of this thread, i decided to pop in and see how the discussion is going. @ op well i see your zeal to awaken believers to the fact that worldliness is not of God and will DEFINATELY lead to hell. Yes i concur to that but i MUST voice this out. The bible, which is the basis of any discussion among believers and also the word of God on which we believe has told us without any contradiction that without holiness , no man shall see the lord. I wouldnt be quoting bible passages here but let me get this straight. Somtime ago, a lady from another african country came up with a '' revelation'' that she saw in heaven people dressed like deeper lifers and its only if u dress like that, u would go to heaven. Well, what made me bring that in? Brethren, the devil is very crafty. The bible calls him an old man and he has been existing right from the beginning before we were.. Now the devil has his strategies to drag people to hell.. If u are led by the holy spirit., u would understand that the devil and his cohorts are trying to create an atmosphere of high sensitivity in the outward appearance than how we are inwardly. By this i mean that the devil, using his agent want to make church- going christians, norminal christians, wishy-washy christians to believe that the pre-requisite for going to heaven and making the kingdom of God is to look 'sisterly and brotherly' from ur outward appearance and so think that that is all is required of you by God.. See this is a plot by the devil nd if u havent realized it, do it now. Christian decency and decorum in dressing cannot be over-emphasized because your outward appearance also gives details about the kind of chrictian you are and this is not in all cases. I.e even prostitutes, fornicators and sinners even dress decently to church and about their every day life but are still the same. What am i trying to point out here? What am trying to say in earnest is that the focus should be on evangelism, living a christian life, being Godly, and a good christian and all other things follow suite. Concerning this thread used in making hair as is the topic here.. Well the bible DOES not specifically say or lay down a platform or profile of making hair.. Well saying its demonic and all that. I wouldnt want to despise that outrightly. But amongst we humans in this contemporary time, i believe we all know there is a wide distinction between rubber thread and weavon ( talking of artificial hair) .. On a personal note, making use of rubber thread is not sinful BUT it depends on the motive behind it. I.e the wearer. Coming to weavon and attachment, well permit me to say this.. A friend of mine once told me that ladies overseas sell their hairs and the hairs are collated . There is a probability that that hair is what makes up the attachment . Am not a female though, but regarding this,. And like i said , on a personal note.. Making use of weavon is more of worldliness.. Please dnt ask me why. Finally in all we do.. There should be moderation. Cos our God is not a God of confusion.. If u cant braid ur hair without rubber and all that.. Fine.. Have a nice day @ all

italo: The Church has ALWAYS believed in purgatory. The date a doctrine is formally defined is not the date the teaching or belief started.

Tradition / Church Fathers
I. The Early Church’s Belief in Purgatory

"And after the exhibition, Tryphaena again receives her. For her daughter Falconilla had died, and said to her in a dream: Mother, thou shaft have this stranger Thecla in my place, in order that she may pray concerning me, and that I may be transferred to the place of the just." Acts of Paul and Thecla (A.D. 160).
"Abercius by name, I am a disciple of the chaste shepherd...He taught me…faithful writings...These words, I, Abercius, standing by, ordered to be inscribed. In truth, I was in the course of my seventy-second year. Let him who understands and believes this pray fro Abercius." Inscription of Abercius (A.D. 190).
"Without delay, on that very night, this was shown to me in a vision. I saw Dinocrates going out from a gloomy place, where also there were several others, and he was parched and very thirsty, with a filthy countenance and pallid colour, and the wound on his face which he had when he died. This Dinocrates had been my brother after the flesh, seven years of age? Who died miserably with disease...But I trusted that my prayer would bring help to his suffering; and I prayed for him every day until we passed over into the prison of the camp, for we were to fight in the camp-show. Then was the birth-day of Gets Caesar, and I made my prayer for my brother day and night, groaning and weeping that he might be granted to me. Then, on the day on which we remained in fetters, this was shown to me. I saw that that place which I had formerly observed to be in gloom was now bright; and Dinocrates, with a clean body well clad, was finding refreshment. And where there had been a wound, I saw a scar; and that pool which I had before seen, I saw now with its margin lowered even to the boy's navel. And one drew water from the pool incessantly, and upon its brink was a goblet filled with water; and Dinocrates drew near and began to drink from it, and the goblet did not fail. And when he was satisfied, he went away from the water to play joyously, after the manner of children, and I awoke

blah blah blah... Stories by the moon tale... All dis are stories.. Any one could have woken up to say all this... From dis post.. I personally dont get anything reasonable... I wonder if the others do.. No bible quotation with reference to what you are saying. We call this cock and bull story bro..

italo: My God!

I've not even started and you're already calling me ignorant...

YOU are just here to fight me abi...

Alright go ahead and fight me. I'm not giving YOU any answers.

After all, when Jesus was taken to Herod and saw that Herod was just being imbecilic, he didn't say a word to him. Let me imitate the master.

italo italo italo we await your reply.. Forget all these. I directed this thread to you cus u seem to be in a better position to answer. Just reply my questions. Thats all we seek..

My catholic soldiers italo ,salc etc aren't saying anything. Please we need ur responses.

KraticKratus: All my inputs are meaningful. It your problem if you can't understand them. Not mine.

i see

Salc , bro the stage is set for you.

Sal C: @Op I hope you are not out to just argue but to seek clarifications.

When you get one, will you be truthful enough to accept it?

Though all what you asked have been treated on different threads, we can also grant your request if you so desire and will not drift along the line.

my brother all this questions are not neccesary.. I believe on the bible and if u can show me these doctrines based on the bible teachings, who am i not to believe?

Italo.. The stage is set for you. Please proove the doctrines above.. Other catholics are welcomed