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The suffersticated developers. Economy builders. Land of millionaires. Where exactly are the Igbos? Let it be Lagos they will be attacking Lagos, Tinubu and Yorubas all up and down. They are avoiding this like the plague. The people have trashed Biafra for 400 NAIRA?!?! CHAI!

Tonim:
Ocean Valley Estate, Oke mosan, Abeokuta.

wow these are gorgeous.

The West and their imperialism has started again! They’re trying to prevent Ethiopia from industrializing and becoming a world power themselves. With the Renaissance dam that’s near completion, they would be a NET EXPORTER of electricity to neighboring countries, by about 50% of its electricity! They want to keep Ethiopia and Africa DARK as a result. So that people don’t get smarter and start demanding for their OWN natural resources. Instead of giving it to Apple, Microsoft, etc. at such cheap prices to make their computers, tech, and other products for western economies. When Africans realize they are poor because they are not building their OWN Apple, Microsoft, Nestle, etc that is syphoning off Africa’s natural resources for the west, and keeping that wealth for themselves, the west will plummet and likely enter a period of an African centered hegemony they may never be able to recover from.

They are doing to Ethiopia what the west did to DRC, and tried to do to Zimbabwe and other countries. When the EFF in South Africa wins more elections, a party for black South Africans, and when they give the people back their land and Diamond mines, the west will come after South Africa next. I promise you white people are the most wicked people on earth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0iXlqy2qnM

sherlock229:
Ibadan ,this comparison is laughable,Ibadan business district blows anything in eastern nigeria out of the water.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uk-gxUmmtY

They know this. But they try to manufacture and change perception from reality to make their case. You should be medically insane to try to compare Aba with Ibadan. But they are crazy.

Yorubas unmatched when it comes to software engineering. Kudos to her!

Yorubas really don’t need any other group to be successful. Let’s face facts. Yorubas have billionaires in oil, telecoms, fashion, etc. And have quickly become the wealthiest in tech from Paystack to Flutterwave. We honestly dominate the entire continent when it comes to music (Wizkid, Burna Boy, Fela, Olamide, Davido, etc). Same with movies. Even have a female billionaire in Fashion and oil (Folarunsho Alakija). So whether it’s oil, Banking, Tech, Fashion, music, movies, we have everything we need. So why join another country?

I would rather have an ethnically homogeneous country like Japan that hasn’t had any political strife basically since WWII. And that’s because they’re extremely restrictive with immigration. I would like Yoruba Nation to be the same, and also have a place for other Yoruba decendants in Benin, Togo, Brazil and other South American countries to come and visit to get back in touch with their roots. If only more Yorubas were in this page, it would be a wonderful sight to see.

Ghana must go part 2 loading.

Vaughanlanrewaj:
Great stuff!!! Wow!! This is so so touching and will love to visit this place in the Bahamas some day.

The Yoruba are perhaps the only African tribe that retained its identity and religion despite being forcefully carried overseas. I sometimes imagine the strategy these my forebears used to achieve this. They successfully replicated almost every section of the Yoruba life in these far lands.
May God bless them. Their descendants come on yearly pilgrimage to Ile Ife, Osogbo, Abeokuta etc

I find it interesting as well but have found the answer. Someone else said it on this forum, that’s because Yoruba is a religion. Not just a tribe. Once I heard that it all makes sense. Our way of life supersedes cultures / religions so much so that foreign religions/cultures often bend to the Yoruba culture. Whether it be Santeria in South America, Hoodoo in the U.S. south, or the strong roots of Yoruba culture in Brazil after centuries, the Yoruba culture always survives wherever it goes. The culture is very strong.

OneTemplate:
Foe once I completely agree with you. It is a very big problem that will only get worse the more SW thrives and continues to be a relatively secure Oasis in a desert of terrorism, unemployment and insecurity.

If Britons chose to brexit over a situation similar to what we are facing in the SW, albeit without the insecurity issues, then we must, as a matter of urgency, start sensitizing Yorubas to be more protective of their corner of Nigeria for the sake of self-preservation.

Much as I love Lagos, I realize some of her major problems stem from how the State is full of parasitic immigrants who don't really care for it. Ditto for all SW States.

Their heart is with their home State and Lagos, Ogun, Oyo etal are i just 'land of hustle". It should not be that way. I hate it personally and you are right to insist something should be done about this status quo.

Lagos, and the SW at large, should begin initiating a rigorous' controlled State' structure that will make it difficult for all but the most productive and skilled Nigerians to live in all SW States.

The unskilled work must be given to Yorubas alone in the SW so that only well-educated professionals from other States would even consider relocating to any SW State.

Similar to how many Nigerians abroad with no papers are stuck in limbo and are worse of there than they were in Nigeria. Yet our skilled specialists and professionals are hesd-hunted by many nations abroad!!!!!

I might sound harsh but if nothing is done then we will all drown in a sea of insecurity, mediocrity, pollution, filth and inadequacy. Foe example, the optimal population of Lagos, per her land mass, should be 8 to 10 million max yer the State host 21 million Nigerians today today with more than half if that number immigrants from other States. One Nigeria os a scam.

This is the answer. If we can all accept this and be ruthless in pursuing what you laid out, we wild be better off. Fashola understood this long before anyone else and sent people packing back to their region. We need MORE of that. Not just on the state level but the regional level as well. Employment should be based on papers and state of origin. Much like how other countries operate, indigenes should be prioritized for all the jobs both skilled AND unskilled.

OneTemplate:
@OP.

I agree with the point you are making. Yoruba 'liberalism' would be good and even exemplary if others played to similar rules and adhered to same ethos for the sake of building a great nation where everybody and every ethnic group is equal in the eyes of the Nigerian constitution and laws.

Yet our ways, commitments and thinking is idiocy in Nigeria that is an ethnically 'charged' nation and a mere "geographical expression".

Our ways put us at a massive disadvantage. We could actually have 'cleaned up' ages ago, to make thw SW the Dubai of Nigeria, if we are as blindly clannish and as ethnocentrically machiavellian as the Igbos and Fulanis.

The Fulanis and Hausas are even a bit better but imagine if Igbos, in their SE region, had our human, geographical and material endowment?

They would have walled up their own region ages ago to prevent anyone coming in!!!!!

Yet we open our doors to everybody and commit to multicultural, egalitarian and cosmopolitan societies not seen anywhere else in Nigeria.

Has it now not turned out , with the Nigeria of today, that we are merely playing into the hand of others who are covetous, sinister, deceptive and wicked with our liberal, accommodating and 'principled' approach to everything?

We definitely are unfortunately. But in order to remove ourselves from this situation we only need a small and strong group of 10% that evokes the ethnocentric and Machiavellian ideals we want to see replicated, chastise those that don’t act in this way (this is the most important part), and we’ll start to see changes. These traitors care more about what people think about them than anything else. We need to be the loudest group in the room to make them shift to supporting the group or be labeled the traitorous agents that they are.

TheSupleemLeada:
But OP....at the end of the day, on the flip side of things.

Look at which region has experienced more peace compared to other regions in Nigeria.

North is dealing with banditry and terrorism.

South east is dealing with unknown gunmen and ipob.

South south just finished dealing with militancy not so long ago.

With all their clannishness and agenda what has it brought them except for sorrow, pain and tears. The only downside is the increased in flow of economic migrants into our region. Yorubas just need to learn how to balance the liberalism and conservatism, be more logical, politically aware and tribally conscious.

I agree, I’m always one to point out rising minor issues before they become major ones. But even right now, the young Yorubas are WAY too liberal. And that NEEDS to change.

OlogoJ:
@MrMaestro: You see the Yorubas that are kissing ibo azzes, especially on social media, are doing so for optics; to appear 'woke', sophisticated, and detribalized. Not realizing that ibos no send them; ibos will only like you if they feel they can intimidate and dominate you. These yorubas know quite well that 'saint Obi' is no different than any other Nigerian politician, but they're blinded by a want for validation. Tinubu has helped more Ibos than Obi has cared to help yorubas, but none of that matters because there's an agenda to demarket him in order to elevate ibos like Obi. The same Obi that is a renowned bigot and ibo supremacist. It is what it is.

This is very very true. It’s only a matter of time before they start getting called out for the Yoruba Traitors that they are.

LegendHero:
It is not more liberalness, it’s starting to be foolishness.

But let’s just call it liberalness until it gets worse. When it’s worse, the liberals themselves will come to their senses.

I’m seeing it as foolishness as well honestly.

Asgard73:
When I say Yoruba propaganda machine .. called press .

Only few igbos understand politics.. even here .. Nairaland.

Ona daily Yoruba Dey use dia brain wan Dey soak garri ... idiots will be forming wetin dem no be..

Igbos Dey dull... politically they yet to understand Nigeria politics

Observe how idiots among them will support Tinubu calming and trying to be right with humans wey go still turn around and abuse curse the living day light out of them ... while they go emotional

Funny some igbos don Dey call obi thief why Yoruba Dey call their thief Saint .. while aggressively campaigning for their thief

Igbos need to wake up..

Elections is coming and everywhere is politically quiet. Na only wen dey rig una go come back the shout

First of all, there’s no tribe that holds their corrupt politicians to task like Yorubas. The thing now is that people have begun to fabricate corruption and criminal charges on people like Tinubu/ Sanwo Olu with ZERO evidence or proof. And Yorubas are busy swallowing it like chicken. Meanwhile you have investigative journalism PROVING Obi committed a crime, he even admitted to having a business overseas to evade tax and not declaring it while in office (which is a crime), and igbos are boldly saying he’s innocent. There’s a difference between the two.

I’m just sitting here wondering about the Peter Obi scandal. Not declaring all of your assets before getting into office is a crime. Period. And it’s quite clear that every Igbo on earth is making excuses and supporting this man. But my question is, when did Yorubas become so naive, and so traitorous?!? The Northerners have shown that they will NEVER turn on their own powerful politicians no matter what crime they do. The Igbos have shown they will NEVER turn on their own powerful politicians no matter what they do.

So why is it only Yorubas performing SOPHISTICATED slowpoke AND BEING TRAITORS to other Yorubas by throwing Tinubu, Sanwo Olu under the bus? And when did this start? Does anyone have an answer?

On Obi, it is clearly against the law to hold office without declaring all of your assets. Because when you DECLARE it, the government can ensure you are not using your position to give your business more money. If it is undeclared, how can it be tracked. But regardless, stealing or not, not declaring it before taking office is a crime. Just see the people below making excuses for this crime boldly and shamelessly.

nisai:
True. Osinbajo is too soft and will be controlled by the North for me.

exactly my point. If people want intellectuals, maybe they should go to university. This is politics. And no emotions will change that.

stanluiz:
Tinubu should go back to Osun state and turn it into Lagos. Using lagos to brag.

Looter like Tinubu. Nigerians are the most gullible people on planet Earth.

Your candidate should turn their state into Lagos before even thinking of contesting. Can’t develop a community talk less of a state and they want to govern an entire 210 Million people. Can you imagine?!?

Initially I was on the fence. But now I’m taking a liking to Tinubu. Yorubas need a STRONG MAN in presidency. We saw what happened with Obasanjo. Too many SOFT & SPINELESS Yoruba politicians. Let a strong and powerful Yoruba man get a chance. We see what he implemented in Lagos. Let him try his hand at the country.

Tajbol4splend:
The Igbos pioneered it and it was all about the Yoruba people stopping them from winning the Biafra War and voting against their favorite thief and tyrant in Jonathan, you know as a Yoruba man, you have to give it back to them at the right size, but I think it's getting better, at least I hope so.

This is the real truth. It actually started with Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB to be more accurate in his early days of Radio Biafra. That Biafra war talking point came from him. He was the one that infected the Igbo tribe with the Yoruba hatred. Maybe because he was in the UK and is surrounded by so many thriving Yorubas, lots of well paid Yoruba doctors, professors, restaurant owners in the UK. He probably began to have inferiority complex.

Things were fine before him. He started with the whole “Yoruba Demons”. He would have broadcasts denigrating Yoruba people. Calling Yorubas bastards and slaves. Igbos would parrot him. Then after a while of turning the other cheek Yorubas began giving them responses back. People who were here long enough know this.

The damage has become irreparable.

You can rationalize the south east governors actions as strategy all you want. But the fact remains that they are slow moving and have yet to act as a group. There is no strategy.

2 governors have already stated a stance against it. That shows there’s no stance or strategy, and if there is they’ve already shown they’re against it. Unless they go back on their word and support SS/SW.

NubaVertigo:
It doesn't prove anything. They are just using the existing governmental divisions to float their measure

You can say whatever you want, but with how Wike has emerged as a leader in the region and his sentiments on IPOB, it’s clear that there’s no way he’ll agree to any Biafra of the sort. If a referendum is called the leaders set the terms. Biafra won’t even be an option. It’ll likely be a vote for South South republic or Nigeria. But time will tell.

Wike is like a Phoenix. And chosen by the people. I think he’ll be a wonderful president of a South South nation. I don’t even see Europeans able to turn him into a puppet. His spine is made of steel.