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@OP, magnets!! And the guy is a post graduate student? This only goes to show how bigoted people can really get. In an effort to appear intellectual, they are now making a ridicule of the Nigerian educational system abroad. Now i'm ashamed of being a Nigerian graduate

Logicboy03: I wanted to add you immediately but erm......how do I know that you arent Muskeeto Judas?

Craze de worry o! So you follow think say i be Musky abi?

noblefada: No you simply say its illogical, an illusion. Go back and read the thread u will see. Yes its not suppose to be logical

So, in other words its not supposed to make sense? Ok then.

So LB you no see the 2 emails i send you abi? Or you de wait for next year february make you come announce am say i bin de feel your 'swag'?

Reyginus: What does it imply?

Appeal to authority?

@lordlexxy, pls stop making a fool of yourself here.

@Anony, are you saying that information exists separately with or without a material base?
In that instance of a map, what is simply being shown is unprocessed data. It is the brain that processes such data into information and in the process forms new neurons where the information is stored.

Much is not known of how consciousness comes about but it is clear that it only exists in animals with relatively higher brain functions. the way this is looking now is just a case of. . . Matter is affected by non matter which is affected by matter which is affected by non matter, and so on. . .
To just jump in and say GOD!!! though. . .

noblefada: Ok then don't use or quote the bible, because logically u can't understand it. I not against u asking question or trying to point out errors but don't try to prove you know the Bible more than the believers. Imagine an atheist starting a thread on " I don't think this is what your bible say", who made u an authority on that issue? as far as the book is concern it is foolishness to u. You say we're ignorant and u want to educate us, ok no problem use u science, logic or what else u feel ok, but don't use the Bible.

bros, in order to show you how ridiculous your beliefs are, we only need to start from your holy book. The bible alone is enough to show you the improbabilities of your god. Lol, how can you say we can't understand the bible logically? Is it written in swahili? What is there that is too difficult for a literate mind to understand?

This is precisely how the catholic church tried to keep the bible away from the masses during the dark ages in order to continue their exploitation over them. Abeg talk sense jo. We understand the bible as well as any man, only that we are not blinded by religious bias. . .

noblefada: As a definition to the world Christianity is a religion, but that's not what the thread is about. I just came to the same realization as the OP, this guys say they don't believe in God but say the know and can explain the bible more than believers and argue it aggressively. Now how does that add up.

Its simple really. They were religious, they are not anymore. They want to show the religious people how ridiculous their beliefs are. While they don't believe god exists, they know people that believe he does so they want to educate them on their ignorance. Is it still hard for you to understand now?

noblefada: When we do u simply dismiss has u guys have done severally on this thread, so what else do u want

we don't just dismiss it. We show you why and give reasons, not so? Even at that, posterity requires that you explain your position properly so that whoever sees this thread in future will know that you did a good job.

Help your fellow christians bros, their hand is being 'falled' here o

Is christianity true?

www.nairaland.com/1327703

This thread is a gold mine. . .

Reyginus: Mr Troll is this for real?

No. It is for fake.

striktlymi: Is Christianity a religion??

hehehehe Epic!!!

Lol. Its simple really. If you that supposedly has the spirit understands it, why not explain it to us heathens?

aManFromMars: Lol, where u hide since?

Matters arising, bbm later...

I de o. Mail things abeg. My bb de kolo now. I'll probably get a new one soon. . .

Argumentum ad Vericundiam

lana_Vello: i presume datz a nice way to give in to the xtians....

Give in to the christians

Delusions of grandeur

whatever makes you sleep better. . .

noblefada: You guys are very funny, I'm out. It would have been very interesting and fun debunking and clarifying all the above contradictions but alas u guys did not start the thread for purpose of getting answers or learning. For records I can clarify all the above contradictions very easily. Take care

lol. Save some pride. Bye!

JMAN05: No. it is correct. remember that that statement was made in the same chapter. What it means is that he never saw his face in the first place.

So what does face to face mean my good ser? Or did the bible lie the first time?

He had really made the wisdom of the so called wise men foolish! they now believe that their ancestor is Ape. what a foolishness!

strawman alert!!!

It is correct but you cant interprete it cos you dont even see anything. the veil is still in ur eyes until u recognise you creator.

fail!

You wont accept anything as true unless it passes scientific procedures, but you blindly cast ur faith on something that cant pass scientific methods. What can we call that?

er. . . Pls tell me what i cast my faith on and how it remotely addresses my posts. Trying to divert the issue?

Your pathetic attempts have failed and now you're trying to pull the spiritual get-out-of-jail card. Lol.


P.S: delete the recurring posts

LightningLord: avi?

No.

I said I'd consider being nice. Not sure why I considered that consideration now..

hehehehehe. Na boredom bin cause am.

lana_Vello: oh,so they gat many theories that doesn't even answer your question.
i arrived late hence didn't c d fault yu found in d creation story. kindly post it!
oh,you're workin&typin? cool story. can't do d same,datz wah makes u a troll en me,vello

Listen man, if you choose to be ignorant thats your problem. I will not hold your hand like a 5yr old. Do some research on your own. It is better to accept that some things are still unknown than to make up silly stories in place. . .

For your info, evolution is at odds with the creation story. But while evidences abound for evolution, none exists for creation. Except of course. . .the bible.

JMAN05: exod. 33:20, 23

20. But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

you took the bait! I was waiting for this exact verse. Can you now see a classic example of a bible contradiction? Just a few verses ago it said they talked face to face, and now suddenly the bible will have us believe it never happened and that in fact Moses would have died if it had happened. Hehehehehe! Just 7 verses down and somebody just suffered amnesia!

23. Then I will remove my hand and you will
see my back; but my face must not be seen.”

hey! My own bible said back parts not back o!. . . Moses saw yahweh's yansh na abi?
whatever it is sha, but them de see spirit back sef?

the almighty God has never been seen by any human before.

Moses did. Its in your bible. Except you will have to clean it out.

the angels are often referred to as God or Jehovah cos they represent God when they deliver his message.

It is even likely that Moses was conversing with Michael there instead of the almighty.

hehehehe. Getting desperate now, are we?

He is saying that you have not shown the non material manifesting without a material base. . .

lana_Vello: @nofaith,lmao. idk wu created God. i told u earlier,i don't try to demystify tinz beyond me. so y not illuminate me on how u came abt dat?
besides,wat do u tink existed b4 dz world of ours?

There's nothing to demystify. The origin of the universe has been traced to as far back as the big ban.g, what caused the big ban.g though has remained unknown. There are several theories that abound. . . Some say it could be the remnant of a former universe, others say this universe might be one of many out there. Read up the multiverse theory. Intelligent Design proponents also speculate that the big ban.g was caused by an intelligent designer. All these theories have their associated problems but the fact still remains that what came before the big ban.g is still unknown. Only dumb sheeple still cling unto the notion of a 6 day creation debacle.

P.S: Using a mobile phone is no excuse for improper spelling. I'm on mobile right now at work too. . .

noblefada: No I did not insert anything, that's why will tell u guys that the bible is not a literal work. From those passage its clear that Saul's armour bearer died with him, but more importantly when the young gave report to David in 2chronicles 1 and David asked him to be killed, he said the man testified himself, because David knew he ws lying.

una don come again with the literal and figurative nonsense!

It is clear in 2nd Samuel that David ordered the man killed for murdering Saul, not for lying that he did. How do you just get to accept one version as true and the other as false without any evidence. It wasn't shown in the passage that the man lied, apparently he even brought Saul's crown and band as proof. Just accept it man, the bible writers didn't actually know the true story of how Saul died so they just wrote all the different accounts:suicide, murder, death in battle

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wiegraf?

Mr anony: How do you do Mr Troll? Thanks man

yes o! We don miss u small sha. The theists here have been dreary and really boring. Any shayo for the boys?

tobechi20: You err siree, the bible isnt always interpreted literally.

At times words symbolising earthly meaning are used to describe heavenly action.

E.g when the bible saig God walked, .....walking is a physical atribute ...the walker must have legs......God is spirit, has no leg, so he didnt walk...he only moved......

Can you all do us a favour by pointing out in detail which parts of the bible are literal and which parts are figurative? I don tire for this goal post shifting

Walking is an earthly action but moving is not