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good job Alfa. I like the way you reply some people. . .

bolaino: lol, bros, prayer na prayer, lol

alright. I'll have Alfa pray to satan on your behalf then. . .

wiegraf: Op, you and the likes of folykaze never were atheists per say. I don't even recall you calling yourself atheist, it was usually agnostic/freethinker

Good for you and whatever paths you choose, as long as you don't become sheeple and separate church/state. Kudos

Don't get your hopes up. . .

This is quite funny. OP does subscribe to the christian god but he's happy to have the christians pray for him. Hehehehehehehe.
Abeg make una leave oga B alone oooo!

Chibuebem: One more thing bolaino;

I hope fear didn't play a part in your change of ways??

I didn't think this ever possible but i actually agree with you. Miracles do happen. . .

@Ray, it seems to me that you are the type of person that will go to any length to win arguments. I will address your posts later when i get on a better device. Stay tuned. . .

Ray McBlue: Apparently, you don't know your history. Ever heard of the Vikings? Oh yes, they are the ancestors of the race we call Scandinavians today. They are known to be conquerors, invading one country after another and planting their seeds (that's how they spread to Faroe Island, Iceland, and shetney islands)

Geez man! What has the vikings got to do with this discussion You implied that the atheistic countries are enjoying peace time atheism because of the US and i just showed it to be false. Now you pull out a viking strawman. Go and sleep man. . .

Lol! You conveniently forgot to mention, Norway and Sweden. Btw, Mr history teacher, Switzerland is not a Scandinavian Country. It's a land-locked central European country that is made up of French and German majority and Italian minority. Finlands are not really regarded by some as a Scandinavian nation. Denmark was occupied by Nazi Germany during the WW2, and thus weren't neutral, just like France weren't neutral when they are also occupied subsequently.

The countries i mentioned were to show you that they do not owe their peace to the US. By the way, Denmark was neutral during WW2. That germany invaded them doesn't invalidate their stance. What are you saying guy?

Lol! Hitler started out as an catholic but rather on at the height of his power declared that Christianity wasn't suited for the Germans as a race. Read up on that on this link and quit this foolishness of yours.

from nazi germany to the many views of Hitler. Lol. Nazi germany was never atheistic my guy. . .

Entirely missed the point. The point I'm trying to get through is that religion isn't the problem, rather man is.

still rubbish. This is just like saying corruption is not a problem, humans are. . .its a clear thing guy, the over religiousness of we africans has caused us more harm than good therefore religion, as practiced here is one of the problems we face. Do away with it and there'll be one less problem.

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In fact, it is in the name of religion that most murders and genocide have been committed. The dark ages, the inquisition, the crusades, Even the slave trade was sanctioned by prominent religious figures. See africa with its many superstitions and diverse religious practices. . .

Ray McBlue: Been non-religious doesn't in anyway compel me from speaking the truth as I see it, mate.



So that is the basis of your argument? That countries with atheistic tendency tends to do better than the religious ones?

You need a reality check, mate, and I'm gonna provide one for you.

Ask yourself what would happen if United States weren't there to keep the peace? Sweden, Denmark and such are only enjoying the full benefits of peace time atheism because World powers like U.S.A are there to shield them from the full dose of reality.

What nonsense is this? Go read some history man. The scandinavians have always been peaceful and it has absolutely nothing to do with the USA. While the US and europe were in the throes of WW2, Denmark, Switzerland, Finland etc were basically neutral and never involved themselves. Pls stop this ignorant misinformation. . .

Let's go back to WW2 when atheistic Nazi Germany wanted to take over the world, or the abominations of the Soviet Union Communism subsequently. Those, were fueled by Man's ambition at it's most ruthless, without any inhibitions or excuses like religion to mask it.

Nazi germany was atheistic? Are you high? Do you know Hitler was a practicing catholic and in fact got the blessings of some prominent catholic fathers during the war? This is a public forum mate, misinformation does not carry for long.

Now, what do you think will happen if a rising power like atheistic China were to take over world supremacy from the United States? Do you think that peace will suddenly reign? I don't think so. The demise of religion will only usher in a greater evil in it's place.

Just remember, it's man that is driving the car, not atheism or religion. As far as man is in the forefront, peace will never reign on earth, it's just not in our nature.

Cease scratching the surface and dig deep, mate.

What strawman is this? Who says peace will suddenly reign? And besides, how are you certain that its because USA is mostly religious thats why they are the world power or why are keeping the peace? Mcheew!

Hehehehe. Sometimes i don't know whether to laugh or cry. The way some people de reason sha. . .

Mintayo: i don't actually expect u to understand.
Yes God is ominpresent and omnipotent,but this does not mean He will force himself on people,i am sure u ppl will cry fowl if He does!

God is everywhere and He sees all things but He will not go where He is not wanted,He wants people to come to Him,yet He will not interfare unless we invite Him,unless we call upon Him-this is my point!
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Most of the Bad things that happens,it is because we allowed them!
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Which germs and viruses killed both godly and ungodly? How do germs kill both godly and ungodly?

at this juncture, i think its safe to unfollow this thread now. . .







Or not!

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funny how, when something bad happens you guys find a perfectly reasonable explanation but when its a good thing. . . GOD DID IT!
Meanwhile he's supposed to be omniscient o! Lol

Nice work here Alfa. Since the thread was not stickied, you have taken it upon yourself to maintain it on the first page. You de try. . .

Make una leave OP jare. Whatever helps him sleep at night. . .

beejaay: Op Doesn't acknowledge any god,he simply realise the Absoluteness of the One.he simply realize that nothing rili exist outside the One whether muslim,xtian,atheist,theist,agnoist,hindus we are existing within the. Context of the One that is why he won't feelthreatened again by the uttrances of anyone believe because henow realize that notin real can be treathened(with this realization he can accomodate all views and yet not belong to any, the joy accompanied with this state of mind cannot be xplained and dts wat religions called paradise)
@op welcome onboard

er. . . Are you Bolaino?

joel lala: Yes i understand but you misconstrue the topic...majority of these countries you mentioned still highly believe in a god, goddess or deity..take china for example, majority still worship and pray to budha, a god/deity and are doing well..so the idea here is lets remove everything and anything that has to do with worshipping God, gods, deity or have any form of festivity to honour any gods and with this how would the world be then? Lets try to picture this..

What constitutes a majority for you bros?
No offense but what the hell are you talking about china and worship of buddha? Buddha is not a deity, he's a man. Buddhism as a religion does not inculcate the worship of any deity, certainly not buddha. Get yourself informed bro.
Of course there's no 100% atheist country anywhere. What we are doing here is an extrapolation. I just showed you countries with higher percentages of irreligious citizens and they are doing very well without having to attribute anything to any supernatural deity anywhere. Their society is better organized than what you would have imagined. Even the religious citizens there know how to mind their business and not disturb the peace.

And just to be clear though, not all cultural festivities have a religious connotation. . .

@OP, care to define this GOD that helped you? Because the way these christians here just de jump up and down sef. . .

How you came to be sure that in fact it is a supernatural being that had a hand in whatever fortune you found. This your write up is very vague. Some people don de claim say na their own god o! Clarify abeg

joel lala: I thank you nd agree to what you said but not fully...you indirectly mentioned in your write up that there are some atheist countries that dont believe in God or any deity or even have any form of beliefs..so please mention some of these atheist countries that dont believe in a supernatural being or dont have any form of beliefs(e.g paganism, buddism).

Don't mistake me. There are MAJORLY atheist countries. Surely you would find religious people there but the athesists or irreligious are in the majority. Gerrit?

China- 59% non religious

Denmark- 71% non religious

Netherlands- 69%

France- 67%

Germany- 56%

Etc

Source- wikipedia.

*singing* its a round round world!!!

We are going round in circles. I don tire...

nnofaith: Total chaos. i am an atheist, but i believe religion has helped put a lot of people on a leash. most of the wars or conflicts you term as religious are in many cases struggle for power and control of resources.

this your post is a non sequitor.

Is religion itself not a means of power and control?

Is denmark in total chaos? Many of the conflicts even if not religious are usually termed religious to give it some sort of legitimacy and make its fighters more convinced that they're doing the right thing. All in all it still Boils down to the same thing. The powers use religion to cloak their evil deeds. Remove religion and they have one less excuse to hide under...

Ok, let me make small sense...

Just like Mazaje said, we would have one less thing to fight about. This is not to say that the world would automatically become problem free but at least we would wake up everyday determined to fight to make this here world a better place. We won't sit on our hands and wait for an omni omni skydaddy to come and clear away all the evil doers. We would fight for our rights harder, we would fight for equal rights and justice. There will be no room for 'God de', 'Karma' etc etc

We won't automatically suspect a borno man just because he's muslim, there'll be no talk of devil worshippers and false gods and the attendant discriminations...

This is already evident in majorly atheist countries, because contrary to what you may think, there is law and order there, respect for rule of law. No shoddy politician will come and tell y'all to pray for gods intervention in remedying our power situation, something that can be done by ourselves. No silly president will make a show of kneeling for a man of god in other to impress the christians and probably win their support while doing nada to improve their living conditions. No rogue politician will go to a church and brazenly tell the congregation that even if an election was rigged it was all gods plan and they'll all shout Amen!!! Nobody will rob you blind and still tell you to pray for gods justice.

In short, we as humans will become fully responsible for our actions and inactions. No outsourcing of responsibility to an invisible devil or god!

Uyi Iredia: No. Here's why. Each material in the working human brain. Including nuerons in the frontal lobe and the brain stem, which mediate for your consciousness (self-awareness) are not conscious of their existence whether the brain is working or not. Do you agree ? Also, state any other part of those axioms you disagree with. This seems to be the only one.

I stated 2 actually. Look again...

Is religion your source of entertainment?

Uyi Iredia: You expect me to take you seriously when you disagree that DNA contains the genetic code. SMH. Playing the blind man by ignoring my points, keep at it.

lol. Uyi, your very first sentence says Creation trounces evolution. That is a silly statement unless you are willing to back it up with evidence. While evolution does not answer all the questions about life( DS' thread is still treating it i don't know why you decided to lift some of the points here though, trying to impress someone?), it gives a clear pointer towards how we came to be where we are at this point in time. So my good ser, care to show how creation(whichever version you choose) trounces evolution? Or are you going to pull a GOD DID IT on us?

Btw, i never said that the DNA does not carry the genetic code. . . Drop the strawman.

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Uyi, as usual again you have just succeeded is saying nothing.

Why not make it simple... Select the best creation myth you think makes the most sense and let's put it side by side with evolution and compare the evidence.

And for the last time, drop this genetic code nonsense you keep throwing about. Its obvious you don't understand it(I doubt yu understand half of what you read sef). Smh

Uyi Iredia: ^^^Then let's clean up things by using definitions and axioms, where by axioms I mean a statement whose truth is self-evident.

Definitions

Matter: something with weight occupying a region in space.

Consciousness: state of being aware of oneself especially in humans.

Information: a material which represents another material or a concept.

Axioms

* Matter has no consciousness not even in a working brain.

* Consciousness is immaterial and hence isn't physical in nature.

* Information requires consciousness.

* All information is manifested through matter.

* All consciousness is manifested through matter.

* All matter is known to exist by means of consciousness.

Agreed ?

some, not all.
*All matter do not exists by means of consciousness.

* The human brain is matter and a working one has consciousness. . . Even a malfunctioning one has consciousness, albeit twisted. Ever heard of LSD? Read about its secret uses in the '70s to alter consciousness etc etc. Psychedelic drugs. . .

Person go just blink, thread go add 20 pages make una no worry, i be troll. I like reading and gathering info. . .