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JMAN05: Moses never saw God.

Exodus 33:11

And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend

Deuteronomy 34:10

And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face.

Maybe they were using skype

@noblefada, nice try there. One question though, how did you come about the conclusion that the amalekite lied? Was it recorded anywhere that he lied about being the killer of Saul? Or did you just insert that excuse to dismiss that part?

On one narrative, Saul asked his servant to kill him but he refused so he committed suicide. On another occasion, Saul told an amalekite to kill him and he did.

Which is which? Don't dismiss an account as a lie without proof!

lana_Vello: i dnt try 2 demystify tinz dat r gr8er dan my lil carnal mind.
wen y'al can giv an xplanatn 2 aw d planets came by& wat encompasses d endlez space,mayb God wud reveal his awesomeness 2u

in other words, you are too lazy to think and therefore will accept the only explanation you know no matter how ridiculous. How about you start by spelling properly? Rule 21

Welcome back Anony

italo: He is not physical. It is folly to test for him with physical means.

RationalDude: But the Christian God isn't immaterial. He walked in the garden of eden, he called out to Adam, he settled on a mountain, Moses saw his shadow, Jacob fought with him and a host of others.

Moses even talked to him face to face as you talk to a friend. Maybe Moses was hallucinating

I don show! ITALO!!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!?

Care for some whiplash? Hehehehehehe. Damn!

Italo says you're bitter therefore you are bitter. QED.

Chimaritoponcho: uhhhhm...not like i dont know eiffel tower jus dat i wanted to be certain if it was the particular one i was thinkingp#blv#

There's no argument here folks. OP is dissatisfied with the way this world is so he grabs a book that promises him a better world elsewhere with an omni omni sky daddy and he gets to live happily ever after. . .

And they actually think that that is a sensible question. . . If you evolved from apes why are there still apes? SMH at such foolish ignorance.

Chibuebem: you are a very troubled man

Butthurt much? Address the contradictions in your bible.

It has been shown that your bible is full of sh.it. Prove it wrong or go hide your ignorant head in shame.

You should donate your brain for medical research man, you don't need it.

Appliedmaths.:
Biology told us that we evolved from monkeys and apes but why do we still have monkeys and apes around us?, didn't the "evolution process" affect them all?. Are humans the "smarter" species?

sheeeeit! I can believe this
Honest advise OP, go get yourself informed. Go and read about evolution.

We can only have a fake ₦1000 note in circulation because there's an original, you can't see a fake ₦2000 note because it's not yet in existence. The mere fact that you talk about a thing is proof enough that it exist; be it true or false. If heaven and hell were not real the speculation wouldn't have been in existence in the first place.

so Santa Claus exists. Likewise the Flying Spaghetti Monster. And the pink unicorn. And dragons. And elves. And goblins. And 7 foot dwarves.....Gaddemit man!!! How can you be this dumb

You guys aren't still answering my solem question, "If you say there's no afterlife, then of what justification would it be to do good?, why be moral?. If we are to go by your claims then no man on earth has the right to protest against injustice after all aren't we just living a free life were anything goes?".

Are you wishing afterlife into existence?

What kind of false analogy is this? If there's no afterlife than don't protest against injustice in this life. Really?
Listen man, The very fact that there's no afterlife is the main reason why you should make this one worthwhile by protesting against every form of injustice. Are you serious!!!? Are you for real man!!!? Is this thread a joke?


And to think this guy is about to become a university graduate. SMDH!!!

Its amazing how when you post the many contradictions in the bible and instead of the christians to address and possibly debunk said contradictions they go on a tangent and start telling you to turn to their god blah blah blah. I mean, somebody is telling you that your 'holy' book is full of sh.it with proofs but instead of showing them their error you go about telling them to believe in your god, same god being preached about in the full of sh.it bible. Who does that? I swear some people need to be locked up in psychiatric homes!

OLAADEGBU: You said only atheists annoy people and I said some teachers annoy the pigs when they insists on teaching them.

Its obvious you can't comprehend sarcasm. No surprises there...

You challenged me to a bet using your grandmother but I said that you are already doing worse than betting with your g/m you are gambling with your life, by playing russian roulette with a loaded gun. If you don't know what russian roulette is say so.

lol. Why not tell me to explain my posts, possibly with diagrams and crayon. Comprehension mate, comprehension.

Is your atheist goggle so thick that you couldn't see the link I suggested?

Link you suggested? Atheist google? Guy you need to go back to school. Your OP is a copy and paste. Kindly put up the link where you copied it from, or is the link you put up there where you copied the OP from?

If the OP is gibberish to you why don't you simply move on? Must you troll on posts that you've got no clue about? Trolls are not allowed in this thread and if you've got nothing logical to contribute can you just "dissapearance from my before" and move on to the next thread.

this thread is nonsense. You are incapable of coherent logic. You are a mindless ignorant robot. You cannot recognise logic even if its staring you in the face. So bye!

OLAADEGBU: That is the reason why it doesn't make sense trying to teach a pig how to sing and if you insist you will both annoy the pig and waste his precious time.

What does this have to do with my post?

You are gambling with more than that my friend. You are playing the game of Russian roulette with a loaded gun.

how does this address my question?

Your OP is not your original thought. The least you could have done is acknowledge your source. Is that so hard Ola?

As for the other gibberish in the OP and your subsequent posts, I already know you are incapable of making sensible coherent arguments so I'll leave you to your delusions. When you can think properly, we'll discuss then.

Appliedmaths.:
I want to believe that at one point or the other we have come across those nollywood movies where the fellow dies and the spirit comes out of the body and starts roaming about, if I'm not mistaken I think "Bill cosby" acted something like that. You can call that imagination but I tell you those movie guys are almost close to the real thing.

Matthew 10:28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Genesis 2:7 : "The Lord God formed man of
the dust of the ground, and breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life; and man became a
living soul.

Matthew 16:26 : "For what is a
man profited, if he shall gain the
whole world, and lose his own
soul".

Psalm 42:1 As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.

When we die our earthly bodies goes back to the ground as dusts but our souls becomes answerable to God.

Hebrews9:27-28 Just as people are destined to die once,
and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ
was sacrificed once to take away the sins of
many; and he will appear a second time, not to
bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who
are waiting for him.

The earthly court of law is just a replica of the heavenly court, God is a man of justice and he pays everyman according to his works.

Galatians 6:7 ASV
American Standard Version
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for
whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also
reap. How ever this relates to the earthly law of karma.

wait! If I understand you correctly, you're basing your assumptions on the bible and the christian god which no atheist believes in. Guy go and sleep we have no discussion.


Even referencing nollywood movies!!!

Appliedmaths.:



I asked a question with an illustration; as humans when we die do the good people and also the bad people end up the same way, or rather do the good and bad people end up in the same place? No hard feelings bro, we're just rubbing minds.

let me break it down for you...
You asked a loaded question: where do good and bad people go when they die? That is already an assumption that they go somewhere I.e heaven or hell in your case. What I'm asking you is to provide evidence, empirical evidence that:
1) We have a separate soul
2) There's an after death place called heaven or hell where your supposed soul goes to.

Until you do that, I won't take you serious.

Uyi Iredia: Oh shut up ! You wouldn't even wish for a couple of minutes waterboarding talkless of an eternal torture. Comfort with dolts makes more sense than eternal torture in a place where intellect is useless: but I don't know Martians for sense anyways.

do you always long for a shouting match so much so that you would just spew trash in hopes that your wish may be granted?
Like seriously wetin you just talk now

Ishilove: Yezzur

really?
My good Ishilove, can you explain what a scientific theory is and why people who accept the theory of evolution should be said to have blind faith in it?

Appliedmaths.:
Last I checked I did philosophy and logic when I was in 100L and that was like 2years +, so my friend if you have any "emperical" proof bring it ON!. I have made my claims, so open the fora for yours.

I should provide proof for your claim? What are you ON about?

You asked a question and then before anybody answers you say that heaven and earth is real and that jesus is the only way. So what exactly are you looking for?

You also make a claim that humans have a...soul

3 claims without any shred of empirical evidence yet you expect logical answers. Bro, pls go read logic101. No oofeinsee!

Ray McBlue: Jupiter's Côck! Compared to the link, I merely scratched the surface!

that's a gold mine, that is if you lack the 'holy' spirit. I think christians are right though, the holy spirit is a substitute for common sense. Apparently, gods logic is the opposite of rational thought. Who are we to question the omni omni omniness?

Y'all think this thread is all that? Visit this website and get informed

aManFromMars: Need to update the OP, but muskeeto's been banned...

Should I create a new one?

request to be unbanned. The MODs already know you have a new ID so the ban is really serving no purpose anymore.

aManFromMars: So Ola is irrational?

no he's not. Only atheists annoy people. Christians just tell you the 'truth' and if you get annoyed then maybe your conscience is pricking you so you may need to repent!


@OP, I can bet my grand mother that this is NOT your original thought. Wanna make a bet?

Alfa Seltzer: Don't know how this observation gives a school certificate to jesus.

give her a break man.

Calling someone mugu means you're occultic. really?

I swearidog...!!!

























In short we give up!!!

joel lala: ..I will have to admit that you have used the error i made for not posting the link source to the science evidence i posted..Nice move but i wont say you debunked me per say but rather you held me indirectly to ransom and made my stance shaky...You are sly..I surrender the argument of the mustard seed however, i was able to prove alfa wrong in the remaining two he provided (Alfa go vex now)..The mustard seed is tricky(no time to really ponder on it because i am working while replying you guys and your deciet)..

ok. Save some pride.

As for typing with my brain without making any sense, even you admitted it on the debate with alfa concerning the harlot stuff that i debunked him..that was common sense ( Alfa go vex again)..so that was just another cheap attack, no personal grudge there..hehehe..

that thread was just full of sh.it. I was waiting for somebody to come do justice to it, maybe I'll have a laugh in between...

BTW, even though it was all copy and paste on the mustard seed stuff, you still didnt prove me or anybody wrong..As 4 u copying and paste on the website, maybe you read and quickly re-arranged the words(who cares anyways) but i know so many NL athiest that copy and paste without reference and none of you say anything..I would have pin pointed them out but it will be totally irrational to drag them into something that they werent involved in.

lol. First of all, I did prove you wrong whether you want to admit it or not. Also if you want to continue this allegation without any shred of proof then you're looking for more trouble. I do not copy and paste anything without acknowledging the source. I know what plagiarism is, even though this is a faceless forum. If you have any proof show it or otherwise shut up!

Anyways, i will always be here to debase you guys anytime(with more precautions to avoid errors)..hehehe..This is really good am enjoying this debate.

Debase I think you mean DEBUNK(logicboy8)). Anyways, you can't though. Have fun...

Let's have some fun...

she-blayze:
1. Do atheists believe in heaven?

No. Certainly not the type espoused by religion.

2. If yes, what would be your definition of heaven? Would it be the atypical Christian heaven with God as its Head?

see answer 1.

3. If indeed the Pope is right, do you guys clamour for a Heaven headed by a God? You don't believe in HIM. Do you still wish to spend eternity with HIM?

he's wrong. The bible made it clear that believing in jesus is the only way to heaven. He's just playing a game...

4. To everyone here, do you think morality and christianity are one and the same thing?

Of course not. All through the ages, different societies have had their own sense of morality. Even now different religions have their own sense of morality. Christianity is just one of the many religions out there, although they like to feel special and claim theirs is a way of life and not a religion. Whatever that means...

The floor is open to all. Enlightened minds should please discuss.

let's see...

joel lala: hohoho..so u are trying to use the part of the science explanation i gave to hide ur decietful lies..it wont work..and i will proof to everyone here that you guys are all guilty of this same accusations by posting all every atheistic topics, proofs and comments for all to see where they get their topics without acknowleging the owner then...u want to use one oversight to claim that u are right..lolz i am going to enjoy this..BTW eventhough it the science evidence was word for word i still proved u wrong and u are yet to prove otherwise.

What are you talking about? Have you noticed that since you started typing from your own brain you've been making less and less sense?

I did not claim I was right, I actually showed you how I was right.

And pls, by all means prove how I've copied and pasted from ANY atheist website. Liar!!!

@wiegraf,
Hehehehehehehe. Sorry. I take it back. I'm gonna go apologise to Italo.

Uyi Iredia: 2nd comment.

Now you're doing exactly what I feared. Anyway...

joel lala: hahahahaha....i cant stop laughing..i actually thought you wanted to even quote me in the areas were you were debased..BTW everybody viewing this whole discussion knows that the scientific research evidence i provided was not carried out by me..so if you believed initially that i did that research then you are grossly ignorant..also i didnt bother to look at the website since rather i must have been more focused in giving alfa n answer using science since that was the initial scope..
Now, that you are accussing me of copying the science explanation, did you or alfa think of this issue on the mustard seed before or you came across it on an atheist website? Infact most of you nl athiest contraditions topics towards the bible are actually gotten frm www.evilbible.com and how many of you acknowledged the source.

lol. You said you've never heard of that site but I just exposed your word for word copyying without acknowledging the reference. That makes you a thief, plagiarist and liar.

Can you post one sentence I've made in this forum that can traced to that site you just accused me of? Liar!

You have no substance and you didn't debase() Me in any way. You virtually ignored my last post where I exposed your sophistry and cherry picking and all you did was ignore it and started attacking strawmen. I de laff!!!

Shameless liar! Hehehehehehe