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My opinion:

They are just wasting their money; it'll do them nothing good. They ought to have left that unwinneable ground since. . .

Assalamu alaikum,

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Narrated By Wahb bin Kaisan Abi Nu'aim:

A meal was brought to Allah's Apostle while his step-son, 'Umar bin Abi Salama was with him. Allah's Apostle said to him, "Mention the Name of Allah and eat of the dish what is nearer to you."

Bukhari - Volume 7 - Book 65 - Hadith 290[/center]

davidylan:
Even muslims too are claiming Angel Gabriel. What next?

Won't they? Why?

Too good bad.

I don't think, really.

Subhanallah!

kola oloye:
Another lie from the pit of hell. Holy spirit is the comforter of the brethren.
Who is even teaching you this nonsense . Was it written in the Quran like that

Why are you that shocked?

Sky Blue:
Putting in mind what fact? "Building embargo on any religion"? Apologies, but my patience seems to be running out, so I would have to ask again, what are you talking about? In most western countries people are hardly just allowed to build anything they want, a permit is required. Such a prerequisite for building, is useful in controlling what such cities or towns or nations want their image to be. The Swiss have not banned mosques, they have banned Minarets. So is Minarets Islam? They have decided they do not want Minarets in their country, it seems they have decided it is alien to them, it is not part of their culture or traditional architecture. I guess it is "barbaric" because they want to keep some of their traditions? It is barbaric because they have refused to be arm twisted into accepting what they don't want? Have they stopped Muslims from practising?

Spires are a recluse of 'church architecture'? What on earth are you talking about? Please I urge you, do some research.

OK. I understand your point very well. The problem likely lies with my inability to establish mine. . .

We might continue when I get back; I am going now. Cheerio!

Sky Blue:
This is getting a tad irritating. Switzerland has not banned the building of mosques for crying out loud, so why the reference to Iran.

Then to look at your second excuse for an argument. How big is the vatican? Please do tell. Are muslims banned from going to the vatican? How big is the vatican and how big is Saudi Arabia? What is the population of the Vatican and what is the population of Saudi Arabia? The Vatican is actually in Italy, to be more precise Rome. Are mosques banned in Italy or Rome? Please at least do some basic research before trying to put up such weak arguments.

In a much hurry, I was replying to this:

Akanniade:
What you should ask yourself is How many churches worship freely in iran, saudi, etc not to talk of building cathedrals. The western world should stop tolerating the intolerant. This desert dwelling reprobates would only use their democracy against them.

Then I wonder why did you think I am wrong?

Assalamu alaikum,[center][b]


Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported that:

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) who is the most truthful (of the human beings) and his being truthful (is a fact) said: Verily your creation is on this wise. The constituents of one of you are collected for forty days in his mother's womb in the form of blood, after which it becomes a clot of blood in another period of forty days. Then it becomes a lump of flesh and forty days later Allah sends His angel to it with instructions concerning four things, so the angel writes down his livelihood, his death, his deeds, his fortune and misfortune. By Him, besides Whom there is no god, that one amongst you acts like the people deserving Paradise until between him and Paradise there remains but the distance of a cubit, when suddenly the writing of destiny overcomes him and he begins to act like the denizens of Hell and thus enters Hell, and another one acts in the way of the denizens of Hell, until there remains between him and Hell a distance of a cubit that the writing of destiny overcomes him and then he begins to act like the people of Paradise and enters Paradise.

Muslim - Book 33 - Hadith 6390[/b][/center]

Nezan:
You are one who needs repentance. How can you say this lie over the blood of numerous defenceless Christians  who were killed by muslims in the North?

The adjective "defenceless" really amazes me. Your people apparently killed hundreds of Muslims camouflaging as cops, using sophisticated machine-guns. Yet they are defenceless. What a description? And Muslims only used machetes, stones, etc.

That was confirmed by many non-governmental, international organizations, e.g. Amnesty International.

What do you mean by ‘no-religion sources’? I did not tell you what I read in the papers, I was relating what I personally witnessed in the religious upheavals in Kaduna and Kano. If you did not witness it, no need coming here to refer to sources you yourself can not trust.

I can't believe you actually "witnessed" the violence. If you really do you would not have said that baseless crap.

I personally witnessed some; and read about others.

Was it Nigerian journalist that equipped the maitatsine people and asked them to be attacking innocent Christians? Or was the media helping the book-haram leader to unleash mayhem on defenceless Christians in Borno?

Neither Mai-tatsine nor Boko-Haram had Christians as target. The former attacked populace, and the latter government. Everyone knows that.

Yes, I believe Christians are guilty of one thing: leaving they states to come and reside in muslim dominated northern Nigeria.

This is one out of hundreds. 

BTW, Nigerian constitution give them every right to do so.

The genocide in Kafanchan began by muslims trying to dominate the Christian minority in Kaduna south, no Christian can trigger a war on muslims in Kano (you are just lying to suit you), muslims also wanted to dominate Jos, hence beginning a campaign to subdue the mostly christian owners of Jos. The miss world pageant terror in Abuja began by muslims as a carry over from the Danish demonstrations over a cartoon of mohammed. For God’s sakes, were the cartoonists Nigerians? Yet you people killed many Christians over this.

You too are shamelessly lying. I find it even difficult to comment here. Mts.

Don’t try to be self righteousness, your prophet aptly encouraged you not to make friends with Jews and Christians, and to kill them wherever you see them, so no need claiming piousness, islam was spread by terror and it shall continue to be.

Say that a million and one more times. 

Why cant you people leave Christians alone too? Ehn? Wanst this thread began by a muslim to ridicule Christians? Sharrap!

And, for example, this your recent OP : Zamfara Pilgrim Dies Stoning Devil is to "praise" Muslims? Wonder.

Good post, brother.

May Allah guide us to the right path, amin.

Sky Blue:
Since you seem to see the connection, why not point it out? I keep asking how this is "babaric" or "stone age", such postulations are quite laughable. Read the article again, mosques were not banned, muslims were not banned from worshipping, minarets were banned. MINARETS. The Swiss do not want Minarets in their sky line and do not see it as part of their culture, just like most western cities in the world won't allow you to build whatever you like in their cities, the Swiss have decided to keep their skylines Minaret free. Wouldn't forcing them to adopt an architectural style they find foreign and not paticularly likeable be undemocratic and "barbaric"? Minarets is not part of Swiss architecture, it is not the style and they want to maintain a particular look in their cities, so what are you talking about?

Let me do it here briefly:

The word “secular” encompasses huge meaning, really, politically and democratically. And that meaning comprises total negation to putting "embargo" on any particular religion as there is freedom to profess and practice any of the religion on the earth. Putting that fact in mind, doesn't this action resemble barbarism . . . where certain rule is stated but a different thing is practiced? Hope you get my point.

More-over, why even Islamic countries don’t ban spires? Is it because they don’t value architectural stuff or what? This is ridiculous. . . They are just trying to ban anything Islamic that’s why they started with smaller, smaller things like minarets.

Akanniade:
What you should ask yourself is How many churches worship freely in iran, saudi, etc not to talk of building cathedrals. The western world should stop tolerating the intolerant. This desert dwelling reprobates would only use their democracy against them.

This is a wrong comparism; Churches are allowed in Iran. . .go ask. Iran as an Islamic country.

Switzerland is a SECULAR country. . .go ask if you don't know.

And, Saudi is a sacred city for Muslims. What you here have to ask is: are mosques allowed in Vertican?

How many questions? 3. Only.

Damned rubbish!

Too bad, Abuzola.

Didn't you save it somewhere?

Thanks God; its only the "common" sense I lack.

Do you wanna engage me in real discussion? Ge buy maturity.

Cya!

I laugh in Hausa. . .

Barka da Jumu'at.

Nezan:
What stupid argument are you putting up? Why were the maitatsines killing Christians? Were we at war with them? What of the boko-haram? Did we declare war on islam? What of the numerous killings of Christians in Northern Nigeria? Were your people not killing defenceless Christians? Stop deceiving yourself and other ignorant people, islam does not preach any peace!

With much respect to the thread's topic, I would like to pin-point sth. here and in the same race debunking some of your (above) baseless accusation of Muslims killing defenseless Christian in the North. I know deep down inside you know that is but a bastard lie. Repent ASAP or else you'll be penalized by God, the Creator. Will you?

Following reading that your claim, I went over my archives, looking for stuff to read. Let me tell you, many of the "things" I read come from no-religion sources. I read them, though very quickly, for I feel it 'neccessary' to come up here and reply. I quite know some of these violent were under-reported or unreported at all.

What I so far understand (I'm trying to be as unbiasedly as possible) are;

1st;

Nigerian medias have lots to shoulder in fanning flames of crisis in this country. Media, as a double-edge tool, can help in either cooling off the conflict or escalating it; Nigerian ones, due to their unprofessionalism, help always in doing the latter--instigating and escalating it. Too bad. Thence folks like you are succumbed viewing things wrongly.

2nd;

Muslims are not guiltier in kicking-off disputes than non-Muslims. They are, in fact, not even that guilty except on a very few cases, contrary to your aimless and baseless accusation against us.

Exapmle include; Muslims backlash following Kaffanchan genocide of Muslims; another one in Kano after ethno-religious massacre of Hausa/Muslims at Yelwa-Sheldam, Jos; Shagamu upheaval, clash between Muslims and Christians over "Miss World" beauty pageant slated to be held in Abuja, which was ignited by [i]This Day newspape[/i]r, to mention but a few. And remember Mr. Gedion Akuluka,? Who descreted on the sacred Quranic papers in my state, and host of others.

What I just believe is that; we might only be charged aptly for "religious intolerence". And that, simply put, means our "retaliatory action" or "responsive" one towards provocative and thoughtless action always perpetuated by non-Muslims, e.g aforesaid cited examples, etc, etc, etc.

We always say; leave our prophet alone. He's unjokable, untouchable, leaveable and everything. We never toy neither we do tolerate anyone making fun of him. And so is our Qur'an and so on. But you never listen. Why? This is whats mostly degenerating conflicts between us.

May God guide us all to the right and straight path, ameen. May He bring bliss to Nija, ameen.

Sky Blue:
What exactly have you said and what has it got to do with the points I raised?? Nevermind

The response actually gets lots to do with your points. Re-follow your posts.

Wisdom and sense are what some people lack, and that leads them to talk stupidly, irrelevantly and offensively regarding everything they are "invited" to talk about. Thats really disappointing seeing the fact whoever can operate computer is expected to, at least, know something, i.e. is referred to as literate. But apparently the reverse is the case. Too bad.

I wonder why Swiss people passed a referendum to banned Masjid's minarets? I thought Switzerland is one of the most educated and secular country so never thought they will resort to stone age and barbaric acts like this.

A friend of mine who lives in a Muslim country wrote to me concerning this, and I quote: In my country, a predominantly Islamic country, we have more churches and temples if compared to Masjids. See how much freedom given by my Islamic govt. In area I stay alone, 95% of the population are Muslims, yet temples and churches outnumbered our Masjids.

Why "persecute" the Muslims minority?

Assalamu alaikum,

[center][b]Narrated By 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

The Prophet said, "While three men were walking, It started raining and they took shelter (refuge) in a cave in a mountain. A big rock rolled down from the mountain and closed the mouth of the cave. They said to each other, "Think of good deeds which you did for Allah's sake only, and invoke Allah by giving reference to those deeds so that He may remove this rock from you." One of them said, 'O Allah! I had old parents and small children and I used to graze the sheep for them. On my return to them in the evening, I used to milk (the sheep) and start providing my parents first of all before my children. One day I was delayed and came late at night and found my parents sleeping. I milked (the sheep) as usual and stood by their heads. I hated to wake them up and disliked to give milk to my children before them, although my children were weeping (because of hunger) at my feet till the day dawned. O Allah! If I did this for Your sake only, kindly remove the rock so that we could see the sky through it.' So, Allah removed the rock a little and they saw the sky. The second man said, 'O Allah! I was in love with a cousin of mine like the deepest love a man may have for a woman. I wanted to outrage her chastity but she refused unless I gave her one hundred Dinars. So, I struggled to collect that amount. And when I sat between her legs, she said, 'O Allah's slave! Be afraid of Allah and do not deflower me except rightfully (by marriage).' So, I got up. O Allah! If I did it for Your sake only, please remove the rock.' The rock shifted a little more. Then the third man said, 'O Allah! I employed a labourer for a Faraq of rice and when he finished his job and demanded his right, I presented it to him, but he refused to take it. So, I sowed the rice many time till I gathered cows and their shepherd (from the yield). (Then after some time) He came and said to me, 'Fear Allah (and give me my right)." I said, 'Go and take those cows and the shepherd.' He said, 'Be afraid of Allah! Don't mock at me.' I said, 'I am not mocking at you. Take (all that).' So, he took all that. O Allah! If I did that for Your sake only, please remove the rest of the rock.' So, Allah removed the rock."

Bukhari - Volume 3 - Book - 39 - Hadith 526[/b][/center]

[quote author=Abuzola 1 link=topic=335959.msg5044543#msg5044543 date=1259877230]I don't mind them[/quote]Me too.

Mts. "Shook head"

Great posts, Abu-Safwan.

I subscribed to all that you have been saying.

BTW, I have just discovered that Jesus knows no bible. Surprise, huh?

Assalamu alaikum,

[center]Narrated By Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "There is none amongst the Muslims who plants a tree or sows seeds, and then a bird, or a person or an animal eats from it, but is regarded as a charitable gift for him."

Bukhari - Volume 3 - Book 39 - Hadith 513[/center]

0hsisi:
why are you the only Hausa on the forum,you claim to be the most populous tribe in Nigeria and only one is found here.
Internet never reach una huts?

I helplessly mentioned it earlier on; its but a bitter truth to me that your people are far learned in Western/orthodox education than our own. Thats the prime cause of that.

But, go to facebook and see; they littered the frigging site.

That notwithstanding, the fact remains intact, and you very well know it, woman.

You can say that again. . .