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lol. your reason for asking that question is, ?

earTHMama:
Naysayers R KoboNuzo.

Haters R YoU

OOOOOOOOOOOOH! na wetin again. cant i stand and watch again. and who am i hating on? YOU or OBJ? whichever one it is God forbid bad thing. i get it because i refuse to make ur eyedull mine, im now a hater. by the way how does KOBO and NUZO help with ur response to my comment? anyway r u who u r. whatever sinks ur boat.

standing on the sidelines and watching the soccer game going on. spectators R us.

earTHMama:
whatever you say but just leave Obasanjo and his family alone. That man has done enough to win a Nobel prize for governance.

we have a truce.
but i can't leave OBJ alone. if i think he deserves critiquing i wouldn't hesitate to. because he is ur eyedull doesnt mean i should put him on some untouchable pedestal.

i would assume u didnt make that last sentence because if good governance includes starving a state of funds because you disagree with its governor and if good governance is keeping MUTE when a village in bayelsa gets wiped out by the army you a C-in-C of then i might as well have u confer on me the Nobel price for bad citizenship.

earTHMama abi Funmi(if thats your birthname) abeg it has does. i don tire. keep dribbling and painting people multi-colored. you claim i might be a tribalist yet you refer to me as someone from the thickest forest in ekiti yet you are not one. in short i take all that back, you are citizen number 1 in my book. if thats wat sinks ur boat, then so be it.

earTHMama:
Why is this egba wannabe on my neck?. I know you are probably Egbira or from the thickest forest of ekiti.

COMEDY CENTRAL! i see u have something against people "from the thickest forest of ekiti". intra-TRIBALIST born again.

stop dribbling. using phrases from the scriptures does not mean u r answering u r simply RESPONDING

earTHMama:
That was before I got born again. One love.

and that doesnt stop you from accusing northerners of everything bad that has ever happened to nigeria WITHOUT FACTS to back it up.

and what makes you think KOBO can do such a thing. because she questions everything that passes her whether good or bad.

sue me for EGBA treason then. but seriously though. this is ga ju! you strive to protect ur own thats something i cant take away from you.

why would she score when she can always do what she does. DRIBBLE away from goal even when there is no goal keeper.

scoring would mean she would have to stop dribbling. IMPOSSICANT!

earTHMama:
How am I sure you are no tribalist?. How am I sure you don't have an inherent hatred for Egbas?

ROTFLMAO (kobojunkie hope i can use that)

how are you sure i am not egba? i guess if i hate egbas and i am one. i can be referred to as a traitor. Correct?

earTHMama:
No man is infallible but don't take advantage of the infallible nature of man to accuse obasanjo for what he didn't do. Most of the accusations leveled against him here are false and born out of shear hatred for the man and some element of tribalism therein.

i dont hate him neither am i a tribalist. but i sure would critique him none stop if i need to. where does that put me? since im not a tribalist nor do i have hatred for him.

[quote author=B.O.S.S. link=topic=222703.msg3374124#msg3374124 date=1232645704]This this really happen? Are you joking? I heard it from someone and thought it was just a rumour!!!

Oh my gawd!!!

[/quote]i helped usher them into the UN building (call it service to motherland). ok i didnt but it did really happen. senator Ufot Ekaete led the delegation.

click on the link http://allafrica.com/stories/200807210371.html

ok B.O.S.S.

lucabrasi:
well not just bacslider but the united states of america do so as well, the united kingdom do so as well,
you get filmed by an average of 300 cctv each time you go out of your house in the united kingdom,
your finger prints and other data is taken and left on the database FOR LIFE, even if you are found not to have committed a crime if the police in the u.k have any reasonable suspicion to stop you or take you in,

and is this going to be done by the state or the federal govt. cos how feasible is finger printing every fly that comes into lagos as backslider had stated.

earTHMama:
Stop smearing our government with mere speculations abeg. You don't know whether they plan to embezzle the loan or replace it. You are tarnishing our image.

which image is being smeared? the same one smeared by ALAMS disguising as a woman? or the one smeared by taking a delegation of 75 people to the UN to defend some indecent dressing bill when FOI bill dey ground, or is it the one smeared when OBJ and ATIKU where playing sling-some-mud b4 the 2007 selection b4 the eyes of the world.

i am confused which one u r refering to,

50million pounds instead of dollars . i guess they paid the one that sounded better to them.

do they offer waranty on the replacement cos it might come in handy in a few months.

YOU ARE GIVEN A NUMBER  LIKE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER THAT ONLY YOU KNOWS. YOUR INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO A HIGHLY SECURE DATA BASE THAT CAN ONLY BE ACESSED BY POLICE OR ANY OF THE SECURITY SERVICES.

IF YOU ARE COMING INTO LAGOS YOUR FINGER PRINT IS TAKING THIS MEANS APART FROM THE CCTV WATCHING YOU, YOUR DATA FILE ABOUT YOU IS ALSO CREATED. THE 3 COMPANIES BATTLE FOR EVERY JOTT OF DATA.

TELL ME HOW PEOPLE WILL NOT FEAR TO ENTER LAGOS TO STEAL EVEN PEOPLE IN LAGOS WILL KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS WATCHING.

ALOT OF JOBS WILL BE CREATED BY THIS.
TO GET A MORTGAGE WILL BE VERY EASY
BANKS WILL GIVE LOAN VERY QUICK
INFACT I FORSEE THAT THE BANKS WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND ALMOST BEGG YOU TO TAKE A LOAN
BUSINESS WILL OPEN UP BECAUSE THE STAKES HAVE MOVED.

thats the way backslider sees the plate of rice from his side of the table so who am i to condemn his thoughts. NOT! i hear finger printing as you enter lagos, social security number, data, etc etc etc HIV being spread on here.

they might as well, scan every retina and take blood sample

Kobo!


lol

lmaorotf hope they dont think i lost it.

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCOMBO BREAKER! now we have more facts available. we can debate this with more sense and eliminate all the BullManure assumptions.

even the well educated are illiterate when it comes to this which you have stated.

and the 2011 positioning begins,


who next?

the 2011 positioning begins

lucabrasi:
i cant argue with you on these points,moreover as the finer details have not been released but wehile we are in the realm of speculations,its a safe assumption to say,when a company of cisco's statuire are involved in this project,they know these issues you have highlighted and will work accordingly so that the project will be sucessful, come to think of it,is there asny major or minor area really where there isnt crime?

sure there isnt much, pple get mugged right in front of their own homes. talk of Cisco being involved in this came about after some of the assumptions have been made. and that was why i had stated earlier that there was more info needed to better understand what was going on. but all well, i guess its simply wait and see thats left for me now.

Sky Blue:
At current a good number of street lights in the newly refurbished roads in Lagos are powered from an alternate source and not PHCN and inverters are used. It wouldn't be too difficult to imagine that such could be used as an approach as well. The original idea for the street lights on the BRT corridors was that they would be powered by solar power which is also used in certain roads in port harcourt and other areas of the country, don't know if that is what is being used in the final thing though. I hope if anything this arguement has informed all of things we might not have known. So enough with the numerous speculation, you can research these things.

so from questioning those, you assumed i was predicting its failure. i know solar panels could be used, but in a case where wat is being captured is not well lighted of what use is the feed. but i wont go that route.

Lucab, i know CCTV technology works perfect. heck i was being watched by like 3 of them while i stopped over at heathrow and was busy facebooking my time away. i know its advantages. the building im in right now has one that records whoever comes in and out of the building and its in plain site too. but all this advantages come to nothing when reality checks in and tells us the camera are being installed at wrong locations.

if im asked to advice on taking the CCTV idea a step further. making it a requirement for public buses wont be off my list. and in a case where a bus is stopped and its found out that the camera isnot working. na fine.

i_laugh and sky blue

i had questioned how it would be powered, what support system has been put in place to enable us derive maximum benefits not partial. if from what i said, u were able to see my assumption of its failure then i guess i must be good at this and not know it then.

lucabrasi:
for crime "blackspots"meaning places where crimes are rpone to take place, an example from the definition and context is third mainland bridge where you r almost sure of being mugged if your car breaks down,with this initiative,someone will quickly see whats happening and alert the police, with some cctvs in uk here,they have an hidden microphone where you are warned not to drop litter ro anything untoward

i agree with you that blackspots are mainly where the cameras would be required. wat about public places like idumota or ojuelegba where there are always people present at all times of the day. yet your bag is snatched at high noon. it is easy to assume that the devices would be placed where human eyes cant always be. but nothing supports that assumption from the facts provided by the authorities.

nowhere has it been stated where exactly the cams are going to be placed. people coming up with installing it on the premises of businesses and what not makes it seem like ^&*)*%$##^ (make that mean whatever u feel bests fills that gap)

a)it will be installed in blacks spots, meaning crimes like one chance,vandalism of government  property,muggings and rapes, kidnapps and ritual killings e.t.c will have a fighting chance of being monitored, if you are familiar with criminal behavior, ill suggest you flick through the chicago school, criminals who operate in an area do so regularly i.e they wont operate in ikeja today then migrate to victoria island, they tend to stick to their regular watering holes,especially the types of crime i v listed above,meaning the cctv will capture the major and minor criminals in these black spots and they ll be easier to aprehend,
also imagine the countl;ess cases of ritual killings and kidnappings,are you saying the cctv will not prove as a deterrent?
no matter how much it costs,within reason,if it saves a couple of lives and makes the life of traders who are robbed regularly easier,has it not justified the cost?
as long as cctv can prevent lagosians from being victims of these crimes,then its money well spent,like i said before, ill re iterate that if you have been a victim of robbery of any sort or seen families whose daughter was raped while coming from a night vigil walking on a dark road or parents whose son or daughter was kidnapped and to this day the police have no leads because they simply cant put a face to the crime or where he/she was last seen, then you ll realise how important it is,

on an awesome day, that which u have stated above is what the CCTV should do. but when they start making mention of private businesses installing, without defining what a "private business" is? they simply gave reason for a detour to my line of thought.

For the most part the reasons we have all given for the projects success are entirely based on ASSUMPTIONS we all made.

rotflmao