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petra1:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSOR6FfAzxw
"Believers who fellowship at the Bulawayo preacher Pastor Ian Ndlovu‘s Divine Kingdom Baptist Ministries church should not believe what he preaches or prophesies as his sect is not actually a church of God, but a divine command station for Zanu PF – controversial bible scholar Howard Nyoni has alleged.

In a video posted on the Scholar’s YouTube channel titled “Zimbabwe Election False Prophet Ian Ndlovu Mnangagwa Plan”, Mr Nyoni also claimed that the President-elect E.D Mnangagwa did not win the July 30 election and charged him of ruling by force.

Pointing to the picture of President Mnangagwa, the scholar said, “As you can see, there is a picture of the President of Zimbabwe, the one who lost the election Mnangagwa. This guy is now leading a mafia in Zimbabwe. He is not the elected leader of Zimbabwe but he is ruling by force.”

In the video, Nyoni reviewed a prophecy by Pastor Ian Ndlovu in which he said Presidential candidates (Mnangagwa and Adv Nelson Chamisa) might fight and even take each other to the Constitutional court, but they will unite under the Global Political Agreement, eventually.

Commenting on the prophecy Nyoni said, “Do you know what this guy Ian Ndlovu is doing behind the scenes? He is in touch with the leader of Zimbabwe who lost the elections. So, this is the guy behind all spiritual things which are happening in the government of Zanu PF.

“So, now I want to tell you something, there are many of these pastors who are bootlicking for Mnangagwa, but now he’s using this one because this one goes to both ends – Ndebele and Shona.”

“This is not the Spirit of God. This is a satanic manipulated demonic venture which is done by this woman (prophetess in the video), and this false prophet and Zanu PF. This is not the Spirit of God. Never buy the lie that that was from the Spirit of God. Ian Ndlovu, this woman and Zanu PF, they are playing with our minds. This is not that the Spirit of God,” Nyoni said.

“God is a God of justice,” Nyoni adds, “What Ian Ndlovu is so detached from is something that is called justice. There is no shortage of laws in Zimbabwe except one law and you know what that law is? To obey the laws which are already there.

“If this Ian Ndlovu was serious and if the Zanu PF, they were serious, Mnangagwa could be gone. But you see, they create problems impossibilities which come from manipulating and deceiving people.”

Pleading directly to Pastor Ndlovu, the scholar said, “We can’t be held at ransom by your love of money and your deception, you being used by Zanu PF.”

Mr Nyoni, who in the past has called out Christian leaders the likes of Jesus Revelation Ministries leader Apostle Thomas Chiwenga and Archbishop Ezekiel Guti of ZAOGA, went on to issue a warning to believers, “Beware of these flag-carrying Zimbabwean pastors”.

An apolitical Christian Youtuber, he said he was compelled to unmask Ndlovu’s dalliance with the ruling party, not because he cares much about politics, but because the party was using fake and corrupted prophets to hoodwink the masses.

He said what Ndlovu is doing is not the first of its kind as Family of God Church founder Apostle Andrew Wutawunashe used to do it with the dislodged President Robert Mugabe in the 1980s.

Blatantly, the scholar said Pastor Ndlovu’s church is not actually a church, but a cult and a Zanu PF spiritual headquarters. He said Mnangagwa is clever because he is using Ndlovu, a Ndebele cleric and a full-time teacher at a Bulawayo school, to placate Gukurahundi victims."

It is one of the oldest tricks in the trade, to read sci-fi novels, then jump onto the bandwagon, mount a pulpit and then pretend you have "seen" and then begin to "prophesy"

Fyi, Boris Johnson, UK Prime Minister's father, Stanley Johnson, has come out saying and I quote: "I predicted a pandemic like this in my novel 40 years ago. Pray for a happy ending"

His 1982 novel, The Marburg Virus, focuses on the spread of a pandemic. Check online, Stanley Johnson explained what we can learn from the tale etcetera

petra1, I beg you, please stop all these your posts and comments pandering to these false prophets' ignoble motivations

Thank you.
Praise God. Alleluia.
"Ẹtẹ adojuti, yẹn ganga, to yẹ wọn, nah lo ma gbẹhin awọn ẹlẹgan dede" loosely translated means
"They each and all, one after the other, with their loudmouth unsustainable and uninformed polemic vain babbling will be disgraced out sooner than later. The shameless braggarts." Amen.

Amujale:
I am going to be kind and accept that answer even though it is insufficient as a response.

Suit yourself. Beggars can't be choosers. I reiterate, as a victim of circumstances, it is called Christian Bible. In the beginning it WASNT even called Bible, talkless being called Christian Bible.

Amujale:
It was initially known as the Bishop's Bible.
It became known as the Christian Bible after the protesters went up against the Roman Catholic Church and had a major split for the second time after they had split Orthodox/Unorthodox Roman Catholic Church.

The protestors became known as the Protestant and they published their own version.

Anyhow, all versions of the Bible, Catholic or other are known as to belong to Christianity.

I have studied all the possible version including the Martin Luther, Lollard and the exclusive ones that have probably never been seen by more than a million people.

They all have one thing in common they are known as the Christian Bible.

I have also read the Ded Sea Scrolls.

Anyone who reads that will again come to the conclusion that the Christian Bible is fake because the Dead Sea Scrolls reads like a militaristic masionic manuscript that talks of a militaristic messiah oppose to the fakery present in the Christian Bible.

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Would you want a cookie for that?

Its a right shame and what a waste. All that studied all the possible version including the Martin Luther, Lollard and the exclusive ones, yet still never able to come to understand the truth. All that reading the Dead Sea Scrolls, yet still never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Smh.

Fyi, copyists are not authors of the scripture, OT and NT. Scripture, OT and NT were in existence before the Romans turned up on scene and convened a meeting for vetting and then compilation. Translation from Latin to English was an afterthought

Amujale:
Choose your best version.

I dont have a best translation version and I am not a KJV-only fanatic.

I have a methodology when reading, studying, quoting and/or meditating on the word. At the very least what I do is, I "spread out" all available translations, go over them., then flip open my interlinear to see how closely the original text matches, agrees and/or relates with what's in the translation

Amujale:
Are there any lies in your chosen version?

Is the Pope Catholic? Is Muhammad a Muslim, lol? Of course, there are lies in all the translations, none of the translations are 100% error free. They are not immune to deliberate lies, unintentional lies, lies stemming from overzealous copyists, lies based of prevailing theology or political ideology, ignorance induced lies, cover-up lies etcetera

Its not just lies, even ommision are in the translation. You saw me earlier asking a poster to please paste out here, what Matthew 18:11 says in the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, obviuosly is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) about Jesus our Lord and Savior of the whole wide world and give the reason(s) for it, or why you are unable to paste here Matthew 18:11 copied from NWT.

Amujale:
There is no history contained in the bible, its a combination of fakery and falsehood.
There are no archeological evidence of anything written in the Christian Bible.
If you would like to quote history, you cannot quote any of the fake stories contained inside the Christian Bible because it isnt a history textbook.

The Bible doesnt claim to be an archaeological or history textbook.

Amujale:
And dont forget the question is:

Dont try being half a smart alec. I did already give my answer to your question

Amujale:
Does the Christian Bible promote slavery?

The Gospel does not promote slavery

Amujale:
Firstly, books dont talk.

Secondly, there isnt a book out there that has the capabiblity of validating itself.

Furthermore, the question remains:
Who wrote the Christian Bible, and when was it written?

Answer:
First century Romans wrote the Christian Bible.

Thats right, one cannot know the history of the Christian Bible better than the people who wrote it.

Noone can understand the malicious nature of Christianity better than the people who introduced it to us.

The gospel according to Saint. Amujale is utterly on all fronts and totally on all accounts wrong

#1/ Reitirating the Bible originally was written by varied authors ranging from prophets to Apostles
#2/ Get the facts right, the Romans never wrote any text the Bible is made up. They copied, translated and compiled to arrive at the Bible
#3/ The Scripture was in existence before Constantine Christianity was commandeered by the Emperor
#4/ The Bible is not immune from people wrongly using it to commit dastardly acts or to justifying inhumane acts like slavery, prejudices, bias, intolerance, misogyny etcetera
#5/ Finally there is nothing malicious whatsover in the Gospel
#6/ Amujale, click below link, read and eat your heart out:
https://www.nairaland.com/4906753/daddy-freeze-liar-tithing-very/22#74143004

Amujale:
Why is it called the Christian Bible, if as according to you it isnt associated with Christianity?

Amujale:
Are there any lies contained in the Christian Bible?

Amujale:
Does the Christian Bible promote slavery?

Amujale:
Who wrote the Christian Bible, and when was it written?

Let's see how far you want to go with your circular reasonings. OK, lol?

#1/ Circumstantially it is called Christian Bible. In the beginning it wasn't even called Bible, talkless Christian Bible
#2/ Loadsa of lies in the Bible. Too many to mention lies are in the bible, as a matter of fact not just only in actual Bible narratives, but also in Bible translation, all because of agenda, politics, cover ups, deceit, lol
#3/ For a particular period of time, the Bible, again, a victim of circumstances, succumbed sanitising conditions surrounding to prevailing unnecessary evils like slavery culture etcetera. The Israelites, even at some stage were enslaved for over 400 years. Joseph, their reason for coming to Egypt as free borns before the Egyptians switched tables on turning them to slaves, actually too was sold into slavery by his free born jealous of him flesh and blood brothers. Even the Babylonians too carried the Israelites away from their land as slaves
#4/ "¹⁶All Scripture is inspired by God
and is useful to teach us what is true
and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives.
It corrects us when we are wrong
and teaches us to do what is right.
¹⁷God uses it to prepare
and equip his people to do every good work."
- 2 Timothy 3:16-17

Various authors, under the inspiration of God, wrote the Scripture (i.e. 2 Timothy 3:16-17) and wrote it spanning different time passages

Amujale:
The Klu Klux Klan is a Christian organisation.
Christianity is responsible for the Transatlantic slavetrade.
Christianity is single handedly responsible for the murder of over 1billion innocent Africans over a period exceeding a thousand years.
Christianity is responsible for the systematic destruction of communities from all around the world.

=>(check) ✓ 11/10

Now, the fact and truth of the matter here, is that the Gospel is not Christianity. The Gospel doesnt invite you to be Christian. The Apostles, the disciples and earlier believers never addressed each as Christian, did greeted each other as Christian, never welcomed each as Christian, never called each other as Christian. The Bible doesnt call a believer a Christian

Amujale:
Learn to read properly.

Soot calling snow black. Smh

MuttleyLaff:
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I am biting my tongue. It's hard.

Please Amujale, do the honours, show in the bible of the God turning into rivers, marrying other gods and having children, become half goat half human being, half bull half human being etcetera, hmm. Thanks

Comprehension has never been one of your strengths anyway

Amujale:
Now i know why you cannot understand simple logic.

Even an infant could understand that my question demands a yes or no answer.

Try again.

This is the last chance im giving you and then i will ignore you for good.

Yes or no?

You better quickly book an appointment at SpecSavers

Good riddance to bad rubbish, if you ignore for good. You werent even up to the job anyway. All you did was flounder, abysmally inefficient, having difficulty responsibly responding to question. Going raving berserk as if like a bull seeing red in a china shop. One track minded centred on playing a victim-persecutor card

Amujale:
Thats why you're brain dead, because that is the description of the Arabian, Roman and Greek gods from whom the manufacture of Christianity owes the basis of their ideology.

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I am biting my tongue. It's hard.

Please Amujale, do the honours, show in the bible of the God turning into rivers, marrying other gods and having children, become half goat half human being, half bull half human being etcetera, hmm. Thanks

Amujale:
Since you dont bother to read it doesnt suprise me that you come up with all that bs and nonsense.

I dont see you that does read how much that has made you think you're better because all I see you type on here are just tired old bs and nonsense on steroids. You're an empty barrel make noises pretending you have something to argue about

Amujale:
You havent even bothered to read the Christian Bible that well or you would know by now that you dont have any legs to stand on.

Siddon there. Believe that and you'll believe anything, lol

You are just a chihuahua and I am, the jungle. Just like a chihuahua, you won’t survive in the jungle, talkless legs to stand on

Amujale:
They Roman Catholic Church and the Klu Klux Klan are both Christian organisations.

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So? And what's your point with that?

Are you having comprehension issues ni, erhh? I have advanced that the Gospel is not about the Roman Catholic Church and the Klu Klux Klan are nor any Christian organisations that takes your fancy. You really are biblically uneducated and illiterate

Amujale:
Alright it seems you prefer to veer off on tangents.
Stick to the content and give your response as a person who is sane would answer.

Soot calling snow black. Smh.

Amujale:
Is the Christian Bible the sole tool that the Eurocentric warmongers used in enslaving Africans for over 1000 years, yes or no?
I need a yes or no answer.

If you dont know or you've never heard this before, then you can say so.

Knowing you play silly and dishonest games, I'll just have to settle with saying, No.

Amujale:
Is it possible that a book and malicious ideology that enslaved people for a thousand years be the same ideology that will save you?

Doesnt dignify an answer, because there isnt anything malicious in a knife left on the kitchen table. The same knife could be picked up to peel potato and making dinner with, while the same knife can be picked up by an unhinged lover and use to stab his/her partner to death. There is nothing wrong with the Bible. It is people who wrongly apply and/or incorrectly use the Bible Amujale. Capisce, hmm?

Amujale:
Yes or No?

Dealt with immediately above

Amujale:
And i need a sensible explanation to how that is possible or not.

Though already immediately dealt with above. I'll just tongue in cheek, add that: Wasnt the Israelites enslaved for over 400 years, huh? Wasnt an innocent Yahshua Ha Mashiach sentenced to death and this indirectly paved way for salvation for the world ni, hmm? My point is there is a method in there, in the seemingly madness

Amujale:
Jesus brings evil, rape, murder, theft, plunder and slavery anywhere he goes.
Again, what is the etymology of the term 'Jesus'?

Entries in your Application form to be considered for one of out the many antichrists position vacancies

Amujale:
Nope because that doesnt explain why Jesus was the name of the first American slave ship.

And why the name 'Jesus' is associated with pain, misery, death and slavery.

It wasn't the first neither is it the last that the name of Jesus was/is used to justify, legitimise, carry out etcetera criminality(ies). Till tomorrow people are being duped scammed etcetera in the name of Jesus. Nothing new under the sun here

Amujale:
What does the Roman Catholic Church and the Klu Klux Klan both have in common?

Nothing comes to mind

Amujale:
The name Jesus is fake due to the fact that its an adaptation of the Greek god Zeus.

The quickest way to get to where you want to be.

The Spanish term for 'Jesus' is
'Jesús' - pronounced 'jay-zeus'.

Deriving from the Greek word 'Iēsous' (Greek: Ἰησοῦς) pronounced 'izeus'. This was translated into the English word 'Jesus'.

The name 'Jesus' refers to the Greek god 'Zeus'.

Listen man, His real and original name is Yahshua Ha Mashiach. Praise God. Alleluia

Why dont rise up to the occasion, be a star and tell the whole wide word what "Jesus, an adaptation of the Greek god Zeus" means and why, lol?

Amujale:
[s]Bin all that Hellenist mumbojumbo of the Abrahamic religions and concentrate on reality, real history[/s].
The god of Christianity is fake and malicious.

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and the Pope is and/or easily might be the False Prophet and the last Pope, maybe even the AntiChrist, lol

Amujale:
The African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

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Amujale:
Should anyone adopt a God who is not in the person's own image; once a person embraces doctrine that doesnt teach that person to love that person's own kind above any other people, when one's oppressor and saviour; one's God and enslaver are one and the same, such a person becomes the principal agent in the person's own destruction.

You've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. No wonder you are a prisoner of wrong dogma. Besides you arent expected adopt a God who is in your own image. That is idolatory. Doing that is you practising idolatory. That is stuff from how idolatory develops, lol

Amujale:
After realising that Christianity is personally responsible for the enslavement of our people for a period that lasted for almost 1000 years, anyone who continues to follow such ideology is definately suffereing from the 'Stockholm Syndrome'

You are so far out ignorant you are oblivious to the fact that the Gospel hant anything to do with Constantine Christianity to say the least. It has nothing to do with the TransAtlantic slave trade etcetera

Amujale:
You are a disgrace to all the human senses.
Get it into your thick brain cells,

Christianity was introduced to the African continent through the Transatlantic slavetrade.

Your brain cells have been swapped with sawdust

Amujale:
Based on that alone, and without invoking the multifaceted fakery of the Jesus character ought to tell you that it can never be of any good.

Go and read a book on African history and free yourself from the mental slavery of the Abrahamic religions.

Who enjoys prison when there is professed love, power, grace and total freedom in the Gospel of Yeshua Ha Mashiach. Praise God. Alleluia

You have imprioned your mind. You have become a prisoner of the past and holds you in from realising the simplest and the most beautiful realities of life, hence why you wallow in the prison of self pity, low esteem and chronic inferiority complex. Taking pot shot at the relic shadow of an unsavoury past. Snap out of playing the victim-persecutor game and move on with life

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Amujale:
God is an African concept.

The African Gods are the true and proper ones.

Not to be conflated with the Almighty God that exist regardless of human perception.

The gods turning into rivers, marrying themselves and having children, the gods that are half goat half human being, half bull half human being etcetera, hmm? Yeah right. Smh.

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Who is the Almighty God according to your knowledge and/or understanding?
2/ What is this God's name?
3/ What is/are this God's plan to end misery, sin, pain, poverty, sickness, affliction, weeping, suffering, death etcetera?

I dare you grow balls big enough that will enable you to respond to the above, three easy, peasy lemon squeezy, simple, straighforward and direct questions, lol

Amujale:
In what language can we find the root word for the name 'Jesus' ?

I will give you a heads start, it isnt Hebrew because Hebrew is a relatively new written language that was invented in 1881.

Does Aramaic and/or Mishnaic Hebrew mean anything to hmm? Are they on your radar?

Amujale:
What is the etymology of the 'term' Jesus?

You still dont get it sha, smh. Jesus isnt His real name. The content of the Bible is not based nor centred on Constantine Christianity. The question you should have asked is: what is Jesus real and original name and what does it mean, lol?

Amujale:
Who utters these words, and to whom are these directed to?
In what book would one find these utterances, the Christian Bible or the Quran?

"I am .... in glory"

"I am ... the Prince of Eternity"

"...Eternity and everlasting is my name"

....I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven.

MuttleyLaff:
Is that just how you give substantive content on Yoruba Cosmos and/mythology. Right?

It is when you guys want to hide and bury things away, that you intentionally opt for obscuring, lol, keep your points out of plain sight and not aligned with questions asked you, so to muddle up the waters and stop others keeping track of what youse written and/or responded to, lol. Nice strategy. Not

It is one or the other, if not both. Now having said that, the Qur'an piggybacks on the Bible anyway

Amujale:
That is incorrect.
Those utterances above are the words of the KM.Tic God Horus the son of Isis and Osiris.

Horus is a real God. Jesus is a fake god.

What a dishonest, vile and scum of the earth person you are
A low grade wannabe antichrist competing with the out there many other antichrists already getting their heads down

Amujale:
The authors of the Christian Bible arent qualified to comment on the validity of the African Gods.

When we talk about Gods and Divinities, the Christian Bible is nowhere to be found.

The number one rule that guides ethics and morality can be found in under the 'Laws of MAAT'.

What is your problem erhn?
I have already conceeded that, yeah, borrowed technology out of lateness, was employed. Who in theur right sense, is going to reinvent the wheel, when it's already there for the picking and/or taking. Remember all those mythologies, pantheon, cosmos narrative, I already said about them that: "Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons anyway."

These gods that often are half human half animals, gods marrying each other and some even having children, human beings like Shango, Oya, Osun becoming gods and associated with rivers, trees, rocks, market places etcetera

Amujale:
Do not lie.

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What lie? Point it out then

Amujale:
The Christian Bible is riddle with fakery and falsehood and as such is completely disqualified.

Riddle with fakery and falsehood my foot. The bible translations no doubt in certain aspect and/or areas are suspect, aside that the Bible can be taken to the bank. Such a living and very much alive book it is

Amujale:
Jesus is a fake god.

All the other gods are invention of human hands, the Bible clearly and categorically states, lol.

In fact it states that God says, there is no other God except for Him and that salvation comes from God. None of those pretenders to the throne gods, ever made/make such a bold and explicit statement

Amujale:
When you quote my naked posts, kindly provide substantive content or dont bother.

Is that just how you give substantive content on Yoruba Cosmos and/mythology. Right?

It is when you guys want to hide and bury things away, that you intentionally opt for obscuring, lol, keep your points out of plain sight and not aligned with questions asked you, so to muddle up the waters and stop others keeping track of what youse written and/or responded to, lol. Nice strategy. Not

Amujale:
You claim that the god of the Christian Bible isnt fake, then answer the question below.

It is one or the other, if not both. Now having said that, the Qur'an piggybacks on the Bible anyway

Amujale:
The god of the Christian Bible is based on a malicious adaptation and plagiarisation of various different African Gods i.e Isis/Horus/Osiris, MAAT e t.c

And to add salt to the Christian Bibles injury, they used the statements of the KM.Tic Gods in an attempt to bastardise and bad-mouth the originators.

Eventhough, majority of the utterance of the fake god of the Christian Bible is stolen from the lips of the KM.Tic Gods, theres no mention of or credit awarded to them anywhere in all of Abrahamic religious text.

Both the fake god of the Christiam Bible and the Jesus character are noted to have been impersonating the real and proper Gods.

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Big fat lie

So what's wrong in that. Isis/Horus/Osiris, MAAT etcetera, they all had a head start, didn't they all, hmm?

The God in the Bible, however, followed a plan, structed steps, timing and/or methodology. Now, why would you expect Him to reinvent the wheel, erhn?

Now, please be kind to answer the question and do in an ordered numbered so your reply won't be obfuscate. Thanks, lol

Amujale:
The concept of God is African.

For instance, foreign warmongers invaded Egypt found about thei Gods and copied them and went on to called them God.

African divinity/spirituality teaches us the difference between the Almighty God, the Gods and gods.

The Almighty God created the universe and IS the final recipient of all creations.

Orunmila is a God

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Answer the numbered & ordered questions nah

Amujale:
For me, my great grandfather is a god.

Off the point because fyi we all are gods

Empiree:
Ha ha ha. Audio refutation . I knew you would say this bcus I already debated this topic with your brother, MuttleyLaff:. He literally left the topic after he realized he can defend it LOL. Question is, who taught the doctrine @bold?. All prophets and messengers before Jesus and Jesus himself circumcised physically. So who taught you different doctrine?

Which Jesus ooo my brother?. Jesus didnt exist Letter 'J' only came into existence some 600 years ago. Letter J does not exist in semitic language . So where did you get Jesus from?. Obviously, Jesus must be European dude from Italy.

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Joker....

Pull up the thread and mention me, so I can "bo idi e fun e daadaa si" meaning whup your arse again for you properly

Amujale:
I cant see you refuting anything that has been said here.

I have given you a tutorial on African history.

According to Egyptian, Greek and Roman history, Christianity is a fake Hellenist religion.

Its either you provide an academic rebuttal or jog along.

I already said: "Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons anyway." and if you dont grasp what that means, sorry cant help you

Amujale:
Christianity was introduced to Africa through the transatlantic slavetrade.
I challenge anyone to dispute these facts.

"Among the prophets and teachers of the church at Antioch of Syria were Barnabas, Simeon (called “the black man”), Lucius (from Cyrene), Manaen (the childhood companion of King Herod Antipas), and Saul."
- Acts 13:1

Smh. Christianity of course was, which is/was a perverted version of what is preached, taught and proclaimed in the Bible

Amujale:
Islam was introduced to Africa through the Arabian slavetrade.

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Amujale:
Both Christianity and Islam are fake and malicious ideologies that need to be far away from our continent.

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Amujale:
God is an African concept.

The God concept is universal, not an African concept

Amujale:
The African gods are the true and proper ones.

The African gods are the kind of stuff mythologies are made up from, while the God in the Bible categorically, comes out to say that all other gods are false

Amujale:
Not to be conflated with the Almighty God that exist regardless of human perception.

1/ Who is the Almighty God according to your knowledge and/or understanding?
2/ What is this God's name?
3/ What is/are this God's plan to end misery, sin, pain, poverty, sickness, affliction, weeping, suffering, death etcetera?

Amujale:
Precisely, African history proves that these are the real and proper gods.

Orunmila is a real god.

Shango is a real god

Oya is a real god

Oranmiyan is a real Emperor.

The African gods are the real and proper ones.

Jesus is a fake god.

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Fa-fa-foul. Pull the other leg,
but leave the middle one alone.

Amujale:
The Christian Bible is fake because the opposite of 'real' is 'fake'.

The Christian Bible is false due to the fact that it peddles a false representation of history.

Theres no character or story inside the Christian Bible that can lay claim to being original if it wasnt stolen, it was copied, if it wasnt copied it was plagiarised, if it wasnt plagiariesed it was sexed-up and if it wasnt sexed-up it was simply outrightly fabricated

And the Christian Bible is counterintuitive because it goes against all logic and common sense. i.e The first person was a man and that his name was Adam.

Number your responses in line with the numbered question, instead of trying to obfuscate responding without order and same format used in asking the questions

Amujale:
Concentrate your focus on reality, real history.
The Christian Bible is fake, false and counterintuituve.

Is Yoruba and/or Ndigbo cosmos for example, reality or real history, hmm?

Amujale:
Go and study Ptolomaic Egypt.

Basically, Christianity is a Roman mockery of the Greco-Roman Hellenist of Ptolomaic Egypt.

For instance, according to history, the Roman Catholic Mass is a fake Hellenist concept that was assimilated from the Christians of the followers of the church of Serapis.

The Roman Catholic Mass ritual is a mock assimilation of a Roman Generals barbaric celebration of victory that waa turned into a Hellenist ritual by the followers of the vhurch of Serapis

In the original Roman celebration tbar took place in Roman occupied Egypt, they drank the fluids of their victims and consumed their victims aa part of the meal. The canabalistic ritual was evolved into drinking wine and eating bread.

The Romans thar manufactured their version of Christianity took that senseless celebration of Ptolemy (V) Epiphanes Eucharistos and awarded it to their Serapis images and called it their Lord's Super.

The first Eucharist and epiphany was held in remembrance of a Greek ruler of Ptolemaic Egypt known by the name of Ptolemy (V) Epiphanes Eucharistos and not some fictitious Babylonian.

Go and study the Bible, whether you would find any in it.

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons anyway. You'll prolly, in the next life, get the understanding that the Old Testament as a shadow of the New Testament, is the New Testament concealed, while the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed, lol

Pack in your the truculent attitude. Read the Bible objectively

Amujale:
The Arabs.

The Arabs invented the slave trade.

Theres still a slavetrade going on in Libya as we text.

There were three slave trades that occured concurrently for a period exceeding 2000 years.

.The Arabian Slavetrade

.The Portuguese slavetrade

.The transatlantic slavetrade.

All of these attrocities were perpetrated by both Christianity and Islam.

The notion that Africans sold other Africans not only false, its the biggest lie in all of human history.

It leaves a sour taste in your mouth, and you cant deny nor hide from the fact that Africans aided and abetted those criminals, they helped, played roles in selling off their brothers and sisters for bottles of akpeteshie, mirrors, guns etcetera

MusicSots:
The jews tell you Yahweh is son of Enlil? Where did they say it. Send the link biko.

MusicSots:
Hmm. Bros, can you prove it?

Him? You are having a laugh, lol

sonmvayina:
No ,that is Babylonian.. Study this article..you might learn a thing or two..

https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/n/Names_of_God_in_Judaism.htm

Didnt I tell you MusicSots, lol. All sonmvayina Mr Contradictions, will do will be to sign post you to websites, lol

sonmvayina:
Every one knows christianity is a Jonny just come religion..there was Judaism well before it....

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So what? Before, always comes after nah

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons anyway. You'll prolly, in the next life, get the understanding that the Old Testament as a shadow of the New Testament, is the New Testament concealed, while the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed, lol

Amujale:
Since we seem not to be paying attention to history, then its no wonder that some of us can easily get caught up in the Hellenist rhetoric peddled by Christianity

I am holding no brief for Christians/Christianity but please, give at least a numbered ten lists of the Hellenist rhetoric(s) peddled by Christianity

Amujale:
The Christian bible is fake, false and counterintuitive.

1/ How is the Christian bible fake?
2/ What is fake/false in the Christian Bible?
3/ Why is the Christian Bible fake/false?
4/ Where, how and/or what is counterintuitive in the Christian Bible?

Amujale:
For those who keep proclaiming Jesus as though he is a real character, are unread, unlearnt and oblivious to the truth about yesterday.

I guess Orunmila, Lamurudu, Oranmiyan, Shango, Oya etcetera of the Western part of the country mythology are real characters

Amujale:
Any black, sic, person who relates to or claims to befriend the Jesus character as prescribed by the Roman Catholic Church are a total disgrace to our ancestors and to the entire continent.

The ancestors and the entire continent would have jumped at the opportunity if was offered them

No one is advised to relate to or befriend the Jesus character as prescribed by the Roman Catholic Church, but to relate and/or befriend the Jesus character according to how He is portrayed in the Bible only and direct

Amujale:
Disclaimer:
Our parents and the elderly are given a free pass due to the fact that they didnt know any better.

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Our parents and the elderly will be judged according to what knowledge they had and/or were privvy to. The work of the law, subconsciously was in their hearts, written in there anyway, so means that, their conscience(s) would have borne them witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or else defend their thoughts, deed, words, actions or inactions (i.e. Romans 2:14-16)

Amujale:
However, within this disclaimer the youth and our youngsters have no excuse to free themselves from the mental slavery of the Abrahamic religions.

What exactly is the mental slavery in the Abrahamic religions?

Amujale:
Read, learn and study African history.

Yeah, read, learn and study African history, just like I do. African spirituality is rich. Yoruba and/or Ndigbo cosmos I know are enthralling to read, learn and study.

Amujale:
Jesus is the name the Eurocentric warmongers called the first slave ship to transport from Africa to North America.

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Who aided and abetted them, hmm?

Janosky:
Isaiah 42:10-12 (ASV) is older than Christianity.
Let me shock you:
Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness. He is the servant of Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob... Rev 3:5,12-14. Acts3:13. John 7:16. John 17:3. John 20:17.

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Janosky, are you shocked that, though you gave a correct response and even corrobated it with relevant bible references you scored zero out of ten, lol, hmm?

OK Janosky, please paste out here, what Matthew 18:11 says in the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, obviuosly is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) about Jesus our Lord and Savior of the whole wide world and give the reason(s) for it, or why you are unable to paste here Matthew 18:11 copied from NWT

MusicSots:
My point is, that's where the name Yahweh emanates from.
So one isn't wrong to use the name. Am not disputing any other point here.

The word Yahweh originates from Aramaic and/or Mishnaic Hebrew language. That is the origin of where the word Yahweh emanates from.

The word has variants and they will be Yahveh, Yaweh, Yahuah, Yah, Jehovah, Jahweh, Jahveh or YHWH,

Yahweh came to be changed to Jehovah by Christian monks and is the name adopted to signify God by Jehovah's Witnesses

MusicSots, as you can see you asked your question(s) from person, who will give you, response(s) that is full of contradictions.

Dont you know that sonmvayina, just makes it up as he goes along ni and is influenced by the BoE, hence his talk of, 70 sons of Enlil because he does a lot of circular reasoning, lol. It is a reflexive behaviour of his that is completely involuntary. He just can't help it, lo. The more he talks and/or type, the more he tergiversates, lol. I adorely call him, sonmvayina, Mr Contradictions, lol

sonmvayina is unable to tell you, where the name Yahweh emanates from MusicSots, lol. Now watch as sonmvayina avoids my questions related to your enquiries that I am going to below ask him

sonmvayina:
Like I said earlier, Yaweh is not the name in the Jewish scripture, it is Hashem..
Yaweh is one of the Babylonian god .. He is one of the 70 sons of Enlil, that is married to Asherah

MusicSots:
I checked and they even assert that I Am That I Am is the real name of God. Hashem is referring to YHVH. So what are you really arguing about?

sonmvayina:
Not Yaweh ...
Yaweh is the son of enlil..married to asherah

sonmvayina:
That is what they are saying, do I have to argue with them?..
It is not about believe..I just read it to know..knowledge is the aim..

MusicSots:
Lol. Who are "they" saying it bro?

"During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the Name of the LORD with a curse. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment.
His mother was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan."
- Leviticus 24:11

"If you are not careful to obey all the words of this law, which are written in this scroll,
by fearing this glorious and awesome name--Yahweh, your God--"
- Deuteronomy 28:58

MusicSots, now watch this, as sonmvayina, Mr Contradictions fudges, fumbles and that's if he doesnt avoid directly answering the questions below, lol.

1/ sonmvayina, what is the meaning of Hashem, lol?
2/ sonmvayina, does the meaning of Hashem signify and/or import, lol?
3/ sonmvayina, why is Hashem used at Leviticus 24:11 and Deuteronomy 28:58 above lol?

MuttleyLaff:
He is one, out of the many dread, dead and alive billionaires antichrists, perfecting all these, paving the way etcetera, who dont carry last.

No prizes for guessing, inanticipation of the PLANdemic, who owns The Corona Virus Patent, PirBright, funded by Mr & Mrs _ _ _ _ and _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Foundation before you go research and/or check it out

donnie:
He says mass gatherings may not come back at all except people are widely vaccinated. Shameless liar

Buliwyf:
Does the word "may" sound like he is forcing anyone to do anything? He is giving you his opinion. And it's a fact. Mass gatherings may not come back unless there is a vaccine or we somehow control the virus. Ogbeni use your head na.

"²The beast I saw was like a leopard, with the feet of a bear and the mouth of a lion.
And the dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
⁷Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them,
and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.
⁸And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast
—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain.
¹⁵The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast,
so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed."
- Revelation 13:2; 7-8; 15

One, out of the many dread, dead and alive billionaires antichrists, perfecting the art, paving the way for the onslaught etcetera of the beast, has spoken, lol