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nlPoster:
Perception matters.

It's true but I often will stop giving explanations when I've sensed the other person only understands from his/her level of base perception.

Daejoyoung:
Well Christians only say the old testament is a shadow of the new, but it's a continuation of the story of God.

Yes, that is true and there is a bit more to that truth, and thats in the sense of that the Old Testament as a shadow of the New Testament, is the New Testament concealed, while the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed

Daejoyoung:
For example :
Why did God tell Abraham to sacrifice isaac? what kind of a test is that?

It is a test of obedience to give up what you most value to God

Daejoyoung:
ln the new testament, this is explained.
Who is the Angel of Yahweh in Exodus bearing Yahweh's very name.

the Angel of Yahweh is God, Yahweh

Daejoyoung:
There was confusion about this very Angel in jewish mythology.

Care to share with us what the confusion is or is all about?

Daejoyoung:
Why does God need passover sacrifices at all? how does it benefit God.

It served as a memorial to the Israelites for being saved from the destroyer when they were slaves in Egypt. It benefit God to later be the Passover Lamb for mankind

Daejoyoung:
ln lsaiah 53, if you say it is a prophecy about Israel, then why is God striking and bruising the jews for the sins of the gentile nations? what sense does it make? why kill so many jews for the sins of gentiles. Whatever answer you give to this prophecy, just insert jesus also and you would see how it is also consistent with the jesus figure.

lsaiah 53 is about the Suffering Servant, Jesus

Daejoyoung:
The old testament is the story of lsrael and her God, the new testament is a continuation and a retelling of that story for not just jews but also gentiles. Because even gentiles needed the messaiah figure. A figure who has power over sickenesses, sufferings and even death.
This is the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham, that in his seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. This is how the entire mythology of both old and new testament works.

The promise to Abraham is a continuation and/or progression of the promise and prophecy to Eve in Genesis 3:15

bingbagbo:
For the records, I am not trinitarian. God is one and His name is Jesus Christ (1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc).

He is a court jester, don't mind him

aadoiza:
Seriously. I'm not seething with hate nor am I prejudicial, but your espousing normalisation of an obvious sickness makes my gorge rises.

You could have fooled me that you're not seething with hate, that you're not prejudiced, bigoted and/or intolerant of others, lol. Mtcheeew.

aadoiza:
Bloody hell. Did you actually think I was just gonna take your words for it? No quote from Jesus asking men to lay with one another.

Have you any quote from Jesus, telling you to stop eating with your hands and start be using cutleries, hmm? Have you any quote from Jesus telling you to start using vehicles to move around with, hmm? Ah, you've got the drift and ridiculant in your question, erhn haven't you?

aadoiza:
Abi sodom and gomora is a lie?
Naivety just blew up in your deceitful face. LMAO

Ah, c'mon, c'mon bring on Sodom and Gomorrah. Yeah, what about Sodom and Gomorrah then. I dare you stick your head out, and say what about Sodom and Gomorrah, so I can ram it down your ignoramus neck for you, lol

aadoiza:
Lemme ask one of the honourable Christians here: shadeyinka, did Jesus endorse homo?

You are looking and hoping for a nanny Jesus, who has a handful of list of things He endorses. Fyi, my dear ignoramus new found friend, Jesus never condemned nor endorsed homo. He showered love, compassion and kindness to homo, lol.

aadoiza:
It's not about the white man? I didn't see you lot championing the homosexuality course decades ago. Is it just a coincidence that you african homosexual shibboleths just happened to rise after the homo agenda got pushed and normalised by the whites? You can't hide your follow follow joor.

You are suffering from what is called an inferiority complex. I have told you this matter has got nothing to do with black or white. Nothing to do with follow follow or not follow follow. You just cant hide your prejudice, you cant hide your bigotry, you cant hide your seething hatred, lol. Shame on you.

aadoiza:
I am not aware Jesus preached homo. Just read in post. SMH

Thank you for your confession and honesty, lol. You certainly are an ignoranus. You sure arent aware of a lot things. I give you that

aadoiza:
I knew you could never get it. A time will come your oyinbo go tell you to eat shiit and back it up with all sorts of pseudo-science and you lot will gladly oblige.

You really havent the foggiest clue. It is nothing about oyinbo, it is nothing about the white man. The oyinbo or whiteman is not my saviour. I dont take cue from the oyinbo or whiteman. This is about pure and true religion, about religion that God finds no fault in. This is about empathy, is about having compassion. It is above and beyond the oyinbo or white man. You dont know what is pure and true religion, you dont know about what religion it is that God finds no fault in, lol. You have no idea, lol

shadeyinka:
I am not against you sir!

It doesnt bother me, if you are/were against me sir

shadeyinka:
Some people respect the white man as God. Anything the white man does is civilized and perfect. Like in the contemporary world, the white man says homosexuality is just another sexual orientation which must be respected by the rest of us straight people. And the mentally enslaved amongst us jumped without thinking on the band wagon. Their excuse: if the white man said it, it must be correct!

Some of these slaves are even threatning the invocation of the "hate bill" to those of us who see it as insanity. They wonder why the rest of us wouldn't bow to the white man as the alpha and omega, beginning and the end, god supreme...

But, ko le werk! It can't work!!

We can easily forgive a child, who is afraid of the dark, but the real tragedy of life, is when men are afraid of the light. It is only wicked, twisted and bigoted men who dont see how SSA people living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle are being demonised, persecuted, discriminated. The moment we realise and recognise that every human being, regardless of sexual orientation leanings, deserves a safe and supportive environment to live in and without feeling fear of being put to death, without restraint or obligation, without being bullied, being shamed, discriminated against a safer place the world becomes. O le werk. It can work and needs to work

shadeyinka:
I don't hate a homosexual just just as I don't hate a mad person... But he needs medical, psychological and spiritual treatment. Giving him this is love(if he will take it) and denying him this treatment in the name of acceptance is pure evil hatred!

You dont hate a homosexual, thats what they all say, but then what specifically and/or particularly about being a homosexual do you hate, sir? lol

If you child in the strictest confidence, confides in you being homosexual/lesbian, would you subject him/her to medical, psychological and spiritual treatment?

Do you believe that Leo Varadkar needs medical, psychological and spiritual treatment?

aadoiza:
Did you not understand the questions he asked? Those questions were absolutely loaded, and it's why he got 1M thumbs-ups from me.

Congratulations to anyone else that believed that, they have successfully and with flying colors passed the dumb and dumber test. They are stupid positive 1M times over, for believing that the questions were absolutely loaded, lol

nlPoster:
Tracing Adam's genealogy in Genesis, I once wondered if he was there around the time of Noah. I think this might have been mentioned before by other folks.

solite3:
Yea Moses might have gotten his insight from other sources like his paternal parents because Moses was taken care of by his mother hence he might have being taught about his accestors by them.

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solite3, fyi, nlPoster is asking about if Adam was still alive and about during and/or around the time of Noah and was not asking anything about Moses.

donbachi:
From chemistry to biology

From chemistry to physics first sef before coming to biology

Godhatesodomy:
[s]Satan? The Serpent Seed View of Genesis 3:15 By Robert Velarde

Bible Answer ManHank Hanegraaff

“Here is what really happened in the Garden of Eden. The Word says that Eve was beguiled by the serpent. She was actually seduced by the serpent….He was so close to being human that his seed could, and did mingle with that of the woman and cause her to conceive. When this happened, God cursed the serpent.” —William Branham1

Branham (1909–65), a proponent of Oneness theology,2 taught the so-called serpent seed interpretation of Genesis 3, with adherents of this view often citing Genesis 3:15 in support of their position: “And I will put enmity between you [the serpent] and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel” (ESV).

The crux of the serpent seed view is that Eve and Satan engaged in sexual relations. Consequently, sin is viewed as sexual in nature, as opposed to the traditional interpretation of the fall as sin being disobedience to God. In addition to Branham, other serpent seed interpretations of Genesis 3:15 are found in the teachings of the Christian Identity movement, as well as, for instance, in the teachings of Arnold Murray (1929–2014) of Shepherd’s Chapel and also the Unification Church.

The Identity movement’s serpent seed interpretation clearly leads to racism, as one expert explains: “As early as the mid-1940s, Identity preachers were building a new doctrine: the Serpent Seed theory. It is a fairly simple and straightforward belief: Jews are the physical descendants of a sexual union between ‘Mother Eve’ and ‘the serpent’ (Gen. 3). The serpent is variously identified as either Satan, or a demonic representative of Satan. As such, Jews are literally ‘Children of the Devil.’ Most Identity believers claim the serpent was a physical manifestation of Satan himself.”3 Furthermore, Identity teachers add that Cain is the offspring of a union of the serpent and Eve, while Abel is said to be the result of the union of Adam and Eve.4

Even if the serpent seed doctrine does not overtly lead to racism, the interpretation remains problematic and unwarranted. Before exploring responses to the perspective and examining the biblical texts more closely, this article will first present how Genesis 3:15 is interpreted by supporters of the serpent seed teaching.

The Seduction. Branham explains, “He seduced her [Eve] and by her did Satan have a child vicariously. Cain bore the full spiritual characteristics of Satan and the animalistic (sensual, fleshly) characteristic of the serpent.”5

Some proponents of the serpent seed doctrine point to the word “beguiled” in Genesis 3:13 (KJV) as evidence of Eve being sexually seduced by the serpent. This requires the interpreter to suggest that “beguiled” in this context actually means sexually seduced. However, in contemporary translations, the Hebrew word that the King James renders as “beguiled” is often translated as “deceived” (ESV, NIV, HCSB, NLT) or “tricked” (NRSV, NET), while none of these translations render the word as “seduced” or imply sexual seduction. In short, “beguiled” means to charm, enchant, deceive, or trick. In context, Eve is blaming the serpent for tricking her into eating the fruit of the forbidden tree. She is not stating that the serpent seduced her sexually.

Another approach to arriving at the serpent seed interpretation is Branham’s view that the Tree of Life in Genesis refers to Jesus. Branham exposits, “If the Tree Of Life is a person, then the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is a person ALSO. It can’t be otherwise. Thus the Righteous One and the Wicked One stood side by side there in the midst of the Garden of Eden” (emphasis in original).6 By arguing that Jesus is the Tree of Life, Branham then concludes that the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is Satan (the serpent). This leads Branham to conclude that the sin in the Garden of Eden involved sexual relations between Eve and Satan.

The Seed of Satan. In the King James Version, the first portion of Genesis 3:15 reads, “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed.” The view that both seeds are literal has resulted in the serpent seed doctrine sometimes being called the “two seed” interpretation. Most modern translations render “seed” as “offspring,” while granting that the Hebrew word is “seed.” Whether the word is translated as “seed” or “offspring” is not crucial. The question in reference to the serpent seed view is, does this passage mean that Eve and the serpent (Satan) had sexual relations resulting in the birth of a child and, as a result, a line of human beings that are literal descendants of Satan?

This leads to a problematic theological assumption, namely, that it is possible for demons to manifest physical bodies, engage in sexual relations with humans, and produce offspring. However, strong biblical arguments can be made against such claims.7 For instance, in Luke 24:39, Jesus states that “a spirit does not have flesh and bones” (ESV). In any event, even if one believes that demons may engage in sexual intercourse with humans, it does not necessarily follow that the serpent seed interpretation is correct.

Disobedience. What are the hermeneutical errors present in the serpent seed interpretation? The primary error is that of eisegesis—reading into the biblical text what is not actually present within the text. There is nothing in Genesis 3:15 or the surrounding context to indicate the sin of the garden involved sexual relations between Eve and the serpent. In fact, other passages throughout the Bible clearly indicate that the sin in the garden had to do with disobedience to God, not sexual relations: “Scripture is clear that the first sin was not sexual but rather consisted of Adam’s disobedience to God’s command not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ([Gen.] 2:16–17).”8 This point demonstrates at least two other principles of sound hermeneutics: (1) allow Scripture to interpret Scripture and (2) examine the entirety of biblical teaching on a subject rather than interpreting passages in isolation. A third overarching hermeneutical principle is context. Given the context of Genesis 3:15, as well as the context of the whole of Scripture, we learn that the passage in question underscores humanity’s proclivity toward sin and disobedience to God, not sexual relations with the serpent and the rise of a demonic line of humans. Finally, adherents of the serpent seed doctrine ignore more viable and clear interpretations of the passages in question.

Regarding the Christian Identity movement’s racist interpretation of the passage, R. Alan Streett lists several problems with the Identity movement’s serpent seed teaching: “First, Israel traces its origin to Jacob, not Abel, when the former’s name was changed to Israel. Second, Abraham, not Cain, is called the father of the Jews. Third, all must be born again. Fourth, Jesus reminded the woman of Samaria that ‘salvation is from the Jews’ (John 4:22).

Fifth, and most important, Jesus was a Jew from the tribe of Judah; thus, according to this theory, He would be the enemy, not the Son of God.”9

Genesis 3:15 as Protoevangelium. There is good reason for calling Genesis 3:15 the “Protoevangelium,” that is, the “first gospel” or first instance of the gospel in the Bible. Rather than teaching the serpent seed doctrine, the passage encapsulates the centrality of the gospel message: “It has traditionally been understood as pointing forward to the defeat of the serpent by a future descendant of the woman…This defeat is implied by the serpent’s being bruised in the head, which is more serious than the offspring of Eve being bruised in the heel. For this reason, v. 15 has been labeled the ‘Protoevangelium,’ the first announcement of the gospel.”10

The Apologetics Study Bible adds, “The language is figurative, indicating the life-and-death struggle between the adversary and the human family borne by the woman….[The passage refers] to the ongoing opposition to the people of God by their enemies and [predicts] the rise of a particular seed, Jesus Christ, who will destroy the serpent in the end (Rom. 16:20; Rev. 12:9–10).”11 Ultimately, Christ delivered the crushing blow to Satan via His sacrificial atonement and miraculous resurrection.

As to serpent seed interpretations that lead to racism, the Bible is clearly opposed to racist ideas: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Gal. 3:28 ESV).

Finally, the serpent seed interpretation leads to a severe misunderstanding of the true nature of sin, which is that sin is essentially disobedience to the Holy Lord. The account of humanity’s downfall is tragic enough as plainly stated without having to sensationalize it with the unfounded view that Eve and Satan engaged in sexual relations. It is for these reasons that the serpent seed doctrine should be soundly rejected. —Robert Velarde
You need to read for yourself and stop trying to force others to read for you. There are countless books, articles, lectures on Cain being the seed of Satan. This isn't something I made up. I just explained it according to DNA and African history. That is a group of Blacks called Babylonians created the Cro Magnum Jews by mixing human with animal DNA. Then these Moors taught the cave beast sciences of Egypt, how to make steel and to rule over other Moors.. The original war was always Africans versus Africans in control over the Earth. Ancient Africans were the Giants and Gods of mythology. The ancient Greek gods, Sumerians, Indians, Celts, Vikings and Americas are all of the original race. The devil is the evil African who created the cave beast and whose spirit went into him. When the White man worships Satan he puts on all Black because he knows that the evil Africans created him. Even the satanic Roman Vatican priests wears all Black and he too knows. So does the Rabbi wear all Black the synoguge of Satan. They know they are hybrids and that their father was the pedophile dirty Moors of Babylon.[/s]

h t tps://youtu.be/OvI-tkYHOnM
Wake up out your slumber

Godhatesodomy, have you ever heard that silence is better than nonsense, hmm? What you've been asked to do, is show Satan fathered Cain, but what you've done. Nothing, except for regurgitating the above disgraceful indefensible cringeworthy, inexcusable nonsense.

I wonder why you attempt to speak and type, when you dont even yourself, know what you're talking and/or writing about. Smh. Life is too short, its better to walk away than to tolerate the abstract and abject nonsense you've typed, copied and pasted here

If you believe that crap you posted up here and also especially believe in that accursed BoE, then congratulations, you have successfully and in flying colors, passed the stupidity test and you're certified stupid positive 1000 times over

OLAADEGBU:
You haven't quoted what, where and when they said it you only quoted their monikers.

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You sure like and enjoy testing someone's patience. That's your quoted what, where, when said it and quoted moniker. Are you happy now?

Instead of playing at being a lazybones shirker, all you simply and easily needed to have done, is plunk whichever interested in moniker plus the word ignoranus into the search field and wallah Bob's your uncle, what, where and when said it with the quoted moniker pops up.

Janosky:
The satanic scam called Trinity FRAUD drained out the brain that Yahweh gave all of you.
Trinitarians are BRAIN DRAINED. Tueh !!!!!
cc : MuttleyLaff
cc : ken4Christ.
cc : shadeyinka
cc: Ihedinobi3
cc:bingbagbo
cc: Eviana.

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Why has Janosky, laughing upandan the place, like a castrated hyena, lump me in with this list, erhn?

CaveAdullam:
correct.

Godhatesodomy:
He is not correct.
Cain means cursed.

"Then Adam had intercourse with his wife, and she became pregnant.
She bore a son and said,
"By the LORD's help I have gotten a son." So she named him Cain."
- Genesis 4:1

As we can see from Genesis, Eve thinks the promise and prophecy in Genesis 3:15 is fulfilled and so believed she has acquired, when she hasnt In fact that promise and prophecy in Genesis 3:15, wont happen until 4000 years later, lol. Eve so much believed in Cain, that upon Abel's birth, she discounted him off and regarded him as being unworthy of consideration to the extent he was named Abel, indicating that he is moisture, breath, vapor, something shortlived, meaning he is something that is here today and gone tomorrow.

True to nature, true to the power of the tongue, true to the name given to him by his mother, Abel truly became something that is here today and gone tomorrow, all thanks and credit to Cain.

Godhatesodomy, out of curiosity, did you just pull "Cain means cursed" out of your rear back? Just asking ni ooo.

OLAADEGBU:
Can you quote one person apart from yourself that uses that word?

MuttleyLaff:
Under what stone have you being living. The word "ignoranus" has been in use as far back as and/or circa 2004

Your wish, is my command:
1/ by Jackal(m): at 6:13pm On Aug 05, 2007
2/ by Chacal: 5:24pm On Mar 17, 2008 (NB: Chacal and Jackal is the same person with a different moniker)
3/ by Hannibal: at 6:00pm On Aug 27, 2008
4/ by Epi: at 2:33pm On Feb 18, 2009
5/ by kaydee(m): at 10:46am On May 04, 2009 (NB, Kaydee possibly is Chacal and Jackal)
6/ by Sauron1: at 9:09pm On Jul 15, 2010
7/ by PoDeep(m): at 5:45pm On Nov 05, 2011
8/ by Killz3(m): at 9:12pm On Apr 18, 2012
9/ by at flyca: 2:54pm On Mar 31, 2017
10/ by daveP(m): at 3:52pm On Apr 15, 2017
11/ by GodSon34(m): at 9:05am On Jun 17, 2018

OLAADEGBU, if you know, you know about ignoranus. Who no know, no go know about ignoranus, lol

Daejoyoung:
1) Paul (or a letter ascribed to paul) in 1 Timothy, and even 2 Timothy has a low view of women corresponding to the times in which he lived. So a man living in the 21st century (where we should no longer see women solely as men's property) must understand that Paul was simply a man of his times here.

1/ How did you arrive at Paul having a low view of women corresponding to the times in which he lived?
2/ Where did you read in the bible that Paul saw women solely as men's property, hmm?

Daejoyoung:
2) Paul focused so much of his gospel on the death and resurrection of Jesus, while this is important in christianity, this should have come second place to the teachings of Jesus on the kingdom of God. Jesus from the gospels came to preach the kingdom of God in addition to dying and rising again according to the Jewish scriptures.

Daejoyoung, if and once, one grasps the implicit exact meaning and/or significance of the death and resurrection of Jesus, it makes the teachings of Jesus on the kingdom of God become easy to understand and/or follow.

Yes, its true, Jesus from the gospels came to preach the kingdom of God in addition to dying and rising again according to the Jewish scriptures, but some Jews dont believe this. Some Jews till tomorrow, are still waiting for the Messiah, lol. Now do you understand why Paul had to put mileage and focus on the the death and resurrection of Jesus? Preaching the gospel to the Jew is a tough nut to crack, certain things needed to be drilled in and on. Remember the gist of Peter's word in the upper room was:
"Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know. He was delivered up by God’s set plan and foreknowledge, and you, by the hands of the lawless, put Him to death by nailing Him to the cross. But God raised Him from the dead, releasing Him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for Him to be held in its clutches etcetera". By the time Peter finished his speech, and people heard it after witnessing the disciples speaking in tongues too, they were cut to the heart and asking Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?". Praise God Alleluia

Daejoyoung, you're a smart guy, I've noticed that, so lets, cut to the chase a bit, lets lay a few cards, straight up open on the table, yeah? Please tell me Daejoyoung, how many times recorded in the bible were speaking in tongues? On each of the number of times, speaking in tongue happened, what was the underlining and common denominator thing that the speaking of tongues on those occassion achieved. I am a fair minded person, so here, your clue is in 1 Corinthians 1:22, Matthew 12:38 etcetera

Daejoyoung:
These two are the major ones, but the gist here is that Paul was simply a human being like you and l. Not everything he wrote should go unquestioned. lnfact the entire bible should be seen as a very human book inspired by God detailing the story of humans and their relationship or perceived relationship with God in the light of difficulties.

Just as I thought, your two above objections to glaringly is down to not understanding the Pauline letters in those respects and also you not being at all familiar with how Paul writes his letters.

If everything Paul wrote or anything in the Bible for that matter should go unquestioned, then we wouldnt have blessed with a processing brain.
The entire bible, truly in fact is a book for humans, inspired by God detailing the story of humans and their relationship or expected relationship with God in the light of difficulties

OLAADEGBU:
Says who? Unless ignoranus is a word that you have just coined.

Under what stone have you being living. The word "ignoranus" has been in use as far back as and/or circa 2004

EMILO2STAY:
this clown stay off my mention

MuttleyLaff:
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Its a pity you are an ignoranus court jester, who you called a clown, erhn?. Not your fault, I blame myself for coming to your poxy circus. Smh. Mtcheew.

OLAADEGBU:
I am beginning to conclude that your wrong spelling of ignoramus is deliberate for a reason best known to you.

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Eagle eye. Contrary to what you believe, "ignoranus" is not a misspell nor a misspeak. Fyi and as a matter of fact, "ignoranus" is a bonafide, kosher and/or legit word in its own right, lol.

"Ignoranus" is not a wrong spelling of ignoramus. Yes, you're 1000% correct that there is a conscious effort and deliberate reason for using and prefering "ignoranus" than ignoramus.

An "ignor-anus" by definition, is a person who is a stupid, rude, pompous and also an ignorant arsehole. It in fact and in short, is a blend of ignoramus and anus. Calling him an ignoranus suits our court jester to a tee, especially when he is fond of pulling worthless and useless stuff from his rear end

Daejoyoung:
Many people have problem with apostle Paul.

Many people have problem(s) with apostle Paul because they dont understand what he writes and dont understand his style of writing either

Daejoyoung:
lt is believed that Paul corrupted christianity.

This is an opinion and one without evidence

Daejoyoung:
lt is believed that Paul speaks against the law contrary to the teachings of jesus and many other things in Paul's letters they don't like. ln addition to that, Paul's writings are very hard and full of theology.

"Paul talks about these same things in all his letters, but part of what he says is hard to understand.
Some ignorant and unsteady people even destroy themselves by twisting what he said.
They do the same thing with other Scriptures too."
- 2 Peter 3:16

The same attitude and way they have with Pauline, is what they have and do with scripture. Look around and see the prejudices, discrimination, bigotry, hypocrisy, greed, sense of entitlement, hoodwinking etcetera going on

Daejoyoung:
l do not agree with paul on many occasions, but l agree with him when it comes to the jewish laws and the role of laws generally. Keeping the laws of Moses does not justify you before God but carrying out good works borne out of faith and love.

List your ocassions that you dont agree with Paul on and why not you dont agree with him, so we together both examine if true, you have a point and/or case, lol

Daejoyoung:
People who misunderstand Paul on this issue think he was at odds with Jesus here,

People who misunderstand Paul in any way like that, dont know their bible well enough.

Daejoyoung:
the misunderstanding comes from the belief that jesus wants us to keep the laws of Moses, but nothing could be farther from the truth.
Whenever Jesus spoke of the law, he was referring to moral laws, the guidelines and principles behind those moral laws, and he wanted us to keep them even better than the scribes and pharisees. The everlasting laws of God are not the laws of Moses but the principles guiding all moral laws of men in all nations, and this is what jesus was focussed on.

The misunderstanding comes from not knowing their bible well enough, like I've previously submitted, and most importantly not understanding and appreciating the significance of the appearance of Elijah and Moses conversing with Jesus, in the form of a vision that Peter, John and James saw, on the day of transfiguration.

kimco:
I just dont get him at all

He is not woke, thats why you dont get him, lol

kimco:
There is a huge diff here but he wants to bound them together.

The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of an eye. The more light you shine on it, the more it will contract, lol.

shadeyinka:
Some people have this mental slavery syndrome: anything from the white man is perfect!
They worship the white man as gods! I don't blame them: it's just a symptom of slavery!

It is mental slavery to cling to things that dont serve any good purpose in life but perpetuates hatred and unfounded malice or disgust to your neighbour, innocent and harmless fellow human being, all because you're a slave to your misguided emotion

It is only an illterate who worships the white man as god. Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are (themselves) slaves

shadeyinka:
If the white man comes up with a theory that Kleptomaniacs are such because of their genetic makeup, would it would suddenly be an acceptable way of life?

If indeed homosexuality is a genetic disorder, how come without drugs or therapy, some revert back to normal heterosexual behaviours.

How about bestiality?
Is it also genetic?

aadoiza:
This is brilliant.

MuttleyLaff:
Somebody is thieving and/or robbing others, taking what is not rightfully his/her and taking without the rightful owners' consent and you call that brilliant

Someone is causing poor animals distress, being unkind to animals and the animal owner and you call that brilliant.

aadoiza:
How is Shade doing any of these?

Why did you type this is brilliant?

Hismasterpiece:
What money do you think they use to run the ministry? How do they maintain buildings? How do they do outreaches? How do they publish books? How do they afford electricity? How do they pay for all the utility workers in church? How do they afford busses and cars? How do they fuel them?

Do you think that the money used in running a ministry falls from the sky? Do you think that all the tithe goes to the pastors bank account?

THINK! THINK! THINK!

You have no problem receiving from God but when He asks you to give you start to squeeze your face.

You see tithes as pastors salary, which is not the case. When you give, you give for the spread of the gospel, for the furtherance of God's agenda on this planet.

Or do you think pastors poop all the money used in running their ministry's? Think!

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What is this one saying?

shadeyinka:
Have I not recanted!?
Why now!?

I have accented to your wish to be depraved with no bridle or constraints.

Animals don't put on clothes and they are happy. Why should I stop you from going berserk in the name of love? I am even considering becoming a vegetarian after your last post on animals not giving conscent. I don't know if you also eat beef and chicken? Let every animal give conscent before they are eaten.

And, you are correct. GOD IS LOVE and he actually doesn't punish ungodliness; he smiles at the evil people for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Prostitution is two conscenting adults having sex with payment involved. Conscentual, the prostitute gets money to take care of herself, the man recieves his orgasm, no one is hurt and God is very happy.!!

You still haven't a clue that prostitution though two consenting adults is about infidelity. There is someone getting hurt in the loop somewhere.

What specifically is the ungodliness in two adult of the same sex loving each other for life, not being unkind to anyone, not harming anyone etcetera, hmm? Please tell

aadoiza:
This is brilliant.

Somebody is thieving and/or robbing others, taking what is not rightfully his/her and taking without the rightful owners' consent and you call that brilliant

Someone is causing poor animals distress, being unkind to animals and the animal owner and you call that brilliant.

OLAADEGBU:
That should make us question those wearing the infamous white suits copying Benny Hinn.

Ah-ha, it's beginning to shape why and how Benny sees in Chris Oyakhilome, himself Benny Hinn and sees Chris Oyakhilome as the next to be in line to the throne, lol. Bwahahaha.

Daejoyoung:
How do you know a true man of God?

You're wasting yours and everyone else time, asking that one, how does he know a true man of God. Pftt.

OLAADEGBU:
Your call on Benny Hinn has been proven right.

I've got Benny's full digits number.

Not many know about how, back in the day, Benny was headhunted by James Eugene Ewing, infamously known as God's ghostwriter and 3 other famous "big" men, who gave him that his infamous white ""amazing anointing reeking holy ghost" whipping with jacket, lol, that he used as a zapping rod and flinging it forcefully at innocent, gullible and easily impressed people, whipping them with it and telling them to drink in the anointing, lol.

Why would someone infamously be known as God's ghostwriter, lol?

Maestro21:
petra1
Once I see anyone quoting Sunday Adelaja. I know that one does not know God at all. The other one is a very well-known hypocrite who has lost his way. I admire your desire to speak truth at all times, but be careful with these lot. They don't know the lord.

OLAADEGBU:
Who is your 'lord' with the lower case, Chris Oyakhilome or TB Joshua?

Their freudian slips just like that one gives them away