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inforesource:
Tell us HIS birthday.

inforesource:
Nobody is claiming that, we just set aside a day to celebrate HIS birth since we know HE was born as human. Just like I can argue that Easter is not the real dead day of Jesus Christ, but that period is set aside to remember HIS dead. Just celebrate Sir, a Son was given to take away the sin of the world. God's promise fulfilled!

inforesource:
What a time to celebrate, leave the date and celebrate the reason.

Maximus69:
Jesus taught his followers the model prayer starting with "Our father"! Matthew 6:9

And this same Jesus told Jews like himself that Satan is their own father! John 8:44

So when Jesus was speaking to Mary Magdalene about the same father, he was referring to that father whose children are united in LOVE, JOY and PEACE {Galatians 5:22 compared to Matthew 7:15-18}

Maximus69:
NOT the father whose children have conflicting teachings and contradicting doctrines, always arguing bitterly amongst themselves over sacred issues yet claiming worshippers of the same God Sir! Act 23:6-9

My heavenly father is not a God of DISORDER but of PEACE! 1 Corinthians 14:33

achorladey:
Let me take my OWN wide GUESS.
If the colours of white lights are under consideration here two numbers should not be PRESENT. Numbers 4 and 9. Just catching my own fun though.

achorladey:
Maximus69 equally believes this as well "only God knows who is serving Him."

Only that YOU CAN NEVER be his brother in CHRIST. The reason for that I DON'T KNOW. The same medication Maximus69 dole OUT when our discussion revolves around this. But I know of the GOOD SAMARITAN STORY though. Lessons abound in there.

Maximus69:
Can you see what i've been telling you all this while?

You're promoting the thinking of the world!

That's why you can't quote the Bible to back up your thoughts even when i keep citing a scripture each time to back what i'm saying!

Please is your Jesus still the same as mine? if you don't know what's happening now, it's a challenge for your Jesus to fulfill the promise the REAL Jesus made to his followers, he promised to send the holy spirit that will remind us of what to say each time our faith is called to question! Luke 12:11-12

Well that's how first century Christians do talk after separating themselves from FALSE RELIGIONS of their time, it's always WE THIS, WE THAT! Roman 1:12, 5:8, 2Corinthians 5:20, Galatians 6:9, Ephesians 4:13, 1Thessalonians 5:14

Maximus69:
Jehovah's Witnesses claim they're WITNESSES of Jesus by practicing exactly what he taught us.

©We don't participate in WORLDLY politics! John 17:14-16, 18:36

©We don't engage in WARS! Matthew 26:52 compared to Isaiah 2:1-4

©We don't make noise in public places in the name of preaching {Matthew 12:19} we respect people's opinion so we ask for their permission before we preach to them! Matthew 10:11-13

©We don't pray in public places so most people assume JWs don't pray at all! Matthew 6:5-6

©We don't protest against governmental authority,{Romans 13:1} because we know they're there temporarily for a purpose! Romans 13:2-4

©We encourage all members to go out in their respective neighborhood to preach zealously and teach effectively to make more workers (evangelizers)! Matthew 28:19-20

Anywhere a witness is found he/shes becomes one of us no matter where he/she comes from! Matthew 12:46-50

If your Jesus is not proactive in all these fields, it's a demon (disgusting as Jesus) promote LAWLESSNESS! 2Corinthians 11:14 compared to Matthew 7:21-23

Maximus69:
I know nah!

That's what you're thinking!

But the TRUTH is that my Jesus totally differ from your own!

Mine is a mighty spirit being who is capable of uniting over 8,500,000 people from different races under the heavens, recruiting them all as his workers to preach and teach zealously in all their neighborhood, and they're all having the same line of thought! John 17:20-23

But yours is also a mighty spirit being who is capable of causing confusion amongst people, {2Corinthians 4:4 compared to 2 Corinthians 11:14} teaching them to kill one another over pride, racism and politics, and at the same time deceiving them that they're all worshippers of one single loving God!

So MY JESUS AND YOUR JESUS AREN'T THE SAME PERSON SIR! Matthew 7:21-23

Maximus69:
Walahi Talahi

Spiritual blindness is evil!

Please what exactly binds you and i together?

Well let me remind you that if you're insinuating that we're both Bible carriers, Satan has really caged you alive!

Because during the first century Jewish religious leaders called Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and Jesus' followers (Christians) all claimed to believe in the 39 Hebrew/Aramaic scriptures known today as "Old Testament", yet Jesus called all other religionists "Children of Satan the Devil" {John 8:44} referring to them as DEAD! Matthew 8:22

So do not assume that since i'm talking about Jesus and you are also talking about Jesus then we are of the same sort!

NO!

We must have the same line of thought as to what Jesus stands for {Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2} otherwise there is a great chasm in between you and i! Luke 16:26

You and i can't be brothers in faith yet when i speak to someone asking questions about faith, you flair up criticizing, antagonising and outrightly condemning what i said!
When a finger is about to carry out a task, all other fingers come up to support, it's when another hand SECRETLY comes around UNSUSPECTED that fingers disagrees. Meaning the fingers don't belong to the same owner (Jesus)

shadeyinka:
So, it was a test!?
It doesn't stop me to start profiling you when I'm less busy.

MuttleyLaff:
"Laying wait for Him, and seeking to catch something out of His mouth, that they might accuse him"
- Luke 11:54

Who profiling epp? Smh.

Maximus69:
Jesus labeled you and your folks who can't agree on principles, doctrines or teachings yet claiming worshippers of the same God "workers of INIQUITY" Matthew 7:21-23

So just go straight and call Jesus the small pikin ignorant on the matter!

shadeyinka:
I thought you speak good English!
How could you have written:
Can you find the THE mistake?

If there was any mistake, it's your grammar!

So, was that supposed to be the question or is there something else?

shadeyinka:
One day, I'm going to profile you!

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmmm,
I can understand!
You really wish JWs are your brothers in your confusion, but the TRUTH is we are NOT your brothers because you are WORKERS OF INIQUITY(LAWLESSNESS)! Matthew 7:21-23

MuttleyLaff:
shadeyinka and you say you want to profile someone,
but look at you fumbling about over a simple and easy peasy lemon squeasy observational test, smh, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, lol.

shadeyinka:
I didn't know it was a test!
What's the question?

MuttleyLaff:
I'll show you amusing next below

[img]https://s5/images/shadeyinkaProfile.jpg[/img]

Let's see, with your answer, if really at all "one day, you'll be ... enough to profile!"

shadeyinka:
Your numerals didn't exceed 9 but numerals are supposed to extend till infinity! LOL

But by now, you should be able to count beyond 9?

Have a great day!

Maximus69:
@bolded Sir!

Of course you and him are brothers in disorder!

But NO! You can't be my brother if we're not related
Through blood~ family ties like brother, sister, cousin, nephew, uncle and so on.

Through business ~associates assisting one another to earn money to take care of our material needs.

And most importantly
Through faith ~ having the same line of thought on sacred matters.

So since we have NOTHING in common, both of you are my neighbours, NONE of you is my brother in anyway Sir!

MuttleyLaff:
I love you, love Christians, love believers, love every Tom, Dick, Harry, Mary and Jane

What binds believers together is much stronger than what separates them

What they agree on binds them together more than whatever differences or disagreement(s) they might nurse that others think separates them from each other

MuttleyLaff:
What binds us all together is greater that what seemingly has us on different sides

CaveAdullam:
What binds every Christians together is not doctrines or denominations; be it celestial, cherubim and seraphim, Christ embassy, winners, catholic, synagogue, redeem etc Na JESUS CHRIST NA BE THE YOKE WEY BIND US TOGETHER. Inasmuch you believe in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ with all thy heart, Spirit, Soul and Body you are free to go BUT WILL NOT GROW EFFECTIVELY WHEN ENTANGLED IN THE WRONG DOCTRINES.

Your strawman is always too bad bro. Any truth that cannot stand the light of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God will begin and end like the tower of Babel.

Thanks.
God bless.

Maximus69:
This is your choice!
No order and no conclusion!
Between you and MuttleyLaff now who is the believer and who is the unbeliever?
But when you see an organization that's PEACEFUL and ORDERLY you'll start quoting all manner of scriptures to say they're wrong!
Is this MuttleyLaff guy not your brother in TRINITY?

Well there may be argument due to secular works but there is NOTHING that can separate the love true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have for one another in Christ! Romans 8:35-38

Continue pondering over that Sir! Philippians 4:8

MuttleyLaff:
This is the beauty of breaking bread and sharing it in opened topics like as this one. Interlocutors bring along food, you eat with them on the table, chew the food but making sure not to swallow the bones but to spit them out, lol

Maximus69, my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person. God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity.

God is someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the the word trinity to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol

Now going to what was referenced and about the point made by Biblespeaks when he laid bare Matthew 24:36. Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him

Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28

Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of.

This isnt news anymore

shadeyinka:
Good morning!

shadeyinka:
You reminded me of the numerals!

shadeyinka:
Still profiling..! LOL

shadeyinka:
Amusing Personality!

shadeyinka:
One day, I'll be ... enough to profile you!

ATTemi:
Even Nostradamus was exact with his words.
Pastor, these are permutations!

Awol1:
An Open Response to Reno Omokri on His Attack On the Catholic Church

First Paragraph From Reno Omokri:
"Some of my Catholic followers have asked me to do an analysis of their church. I find their use of the word ‘our church’ almost ironical because they do not know my history. Not only was I once a Catholic, my mother, and my grandfather were both Catholics. As a matter of fact, the first place Catholicism came to in Nigeria is a place called Ode-Itsekiri, which all true born Itsekiri know as Big Warri. Augustinian Monks set up the first Catholic mission in Nigeria there in 1555. My grandfather was an Olu of Warri. I can trace my bloodline and Catholic origin up to Olu Atuwatse I (AKA Dom Domingos), who in 1648 became the first university graduate in West Africa, as well as the first Christian to be crowned Olu of Warri."

Response:
It is very beautiful that some of your Catholic followers could in sincerity ask you to do an analysis of "their Church." I guess they trusted you so much as one who is knowledgeable in giving a sincere analysis, even though they do not know that the words "sincere analysis" are actually not compatible with you when it comes to the Catholic Church.

You know that it is funny for children to ask a stranger whom they meet on the street to tell them the story of how their mother gave birth to them instead of asking their mother or a relative directly, so you cunningly inserted yourself into the picture as a Catholic with Catholic origin so that your so called analysis will be seen as true. Nice one! This is why you started tracing the history you read up, finding a way to put your father and grandfather and great-grandfather into it. But you forgot something.
The history of how Catholicism first came to Nigeria has nothing to do with your mother and grandfather becoming Catholics. This is because, the missionary activities of the Portuguese in Itsekiri land when they first came as far back as 1555 was highly unsuccessful. It was until 1914 and specifically 1916 that Catholicism took root in Warri through the effort of an Italian and a French priest. We are talking of almost 360 years difference here from 1555 to 1914.

The Olu Atuwatse 1 also known as Dom Domingo whom you mentioned, was actually sent to Portugal by the Portuguese missionary to train as a priest, but he did not meet up with the requirements of being a priest because he got married to a Portuguese woman. He studied at the Portuguese Premiere University of Coimbra from 1600 – 1611. Thus, he became the first African graduate. At his return, he became the seventh Olu Of Warri who reigned from about 1625-1643 AD.

The Catholicism your grandfather and mother got converted into was what was planted around 1914, that was 359 years after the Portuguese missionaries first came to Ode-tsekiri.

So, bringing the story of the first missionary in a bid to do an analysis to your Catholic followers on "their Church" does not say anything other than to make them feel you are credible, when you are not. Also to prove that you are knowledgeable in history, whereas you only succeeded in copying from the book written by Samuel U. Erivwo, Ph.D. on the "History of Christianity In Nigeria: THE URHOBO, THE ISOKO, AND THE ITSEKIRI." A book published in 1979.
That is not scholarship my dear pastor Reno Omokri.

harmonyAris:
This Rev Fr is part of our problem I'm Nigeria. Reno stated some thought provoking facts about catholism but instead of you to state some counter facts you resort to attacking Reno personally. How about you tell is why catholic do things obviously against what the bible stated, like the"father issue", the "veneration of mary" and so on

MuttleyLaff:
ikorodureporta, fyi, Reno Omokirikiri is a big fat shameless liar, it was the church father Saint Ignatius of Antioch in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans, who first used the phrase "ekklesia katholicos" which when translated to English turns into "Catholic Church".

As could be seen from my above mentions from two other different threads, it is Saint Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of Apostle, who coined the phrase "ekklesia katholicos" and to mean the called out ones universally, in distinct to the local, town or city assemblies called out ones.

As a matter of fact, the first use of the word "Catholic" was by this man, Saint Ignatius of Antioch, in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans

So contrary to what Reno Omokirikiri is saying, that the word Catholic means "all embracing" and with false humility pleading to please go check the dictionary for the meaning of the word "Catholic", in case he lied, well Reno lied, and its a barefaced lie because the word "katholicos or katholikos" first is Greek in origin, or if "catholicus" then Latin in origin, and does not mean anything and/or does not anywhere close mean "all embracing." Saint Ignatius of Antioch coined the phrase used to mean the church "on the whole", to mean the church "according to the whole" or the church "in general".

It will interest anyone wanting to know, that the word katholicos or katholikos" is a combination of the Greek words "kata" meaning "about" and "holos" meaning "whole", so in effect, the originator of the phrase Saint Ignatius of Antioch, is saying he is writing about the church in the whole, when he used the phrase in his "The Epistle of St. Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans"

Reno Omokirikiri, is not really on about Catholicism, he cares less about Catholicism, what Reno Omokirikiri was doing and going at great lengths while at it, is sneakingly trying to put it out there in the public domain space, that he has blue blood flowing in his veins, that as he has the Olu of Warri royalty blood flowing in him, then he is to be looked at, as a person of noble birth, lol.

It is very easy to read Reno like a book, this all thanks to his past unsavoury antecedents, lol. I am sure this latest one is not going to be the last of them, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
As I previously had typed, it was Saint Ignatius of Antioch, in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans (i.e. the ''Epistle of St. Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans'') who first coined the phrase "ekklesia katholicos," used to mean, the church "on the whole", to mean the church "according to the whole" or the church "in general". It would have been lazy and irresponsible of me to leave you and my readership mystified by not providing a little backdrop of whats behind the word "ekklesia katholicos,"

The fact of being untrue, incorrect and/or insincere, the untruthfulness in how Reno said what is the meaning of word, stood out like a big fat sore thumb. He even had the cheek to tell people to go check the dictionary for the meaning. Is it from the English dictionary, that Saint Ignatius of Antioch coined the "ekklesia katholicos," phrase from ni, hmm?

The meaning of the word "katholicos," according to what Reno said it was, is an indisputable big fat lie. Catholic, better still "katholicos," according to Reno's definition, does not as he puts it, mean "all embracing" period.

He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones. I am not going to trade words with you listing errors, the tribulations, the scamming, staged healing miracles, the misogyny and/or mistrust of women, the sense of entitlement culture, obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing, prejudice(s) and bigotry etcetera in the penterascal circles, which Reno himself, a self-styled pastor, is prominent in, lol

Reno has enough on his penterascal plate to look into and so should face straight front, mind his own penterascal affairs and just already leave the Catholics alone in peace, lol,

We have got the gist Reno, that blue blood runs in your veins, lol, thank you for the unneccesary and/or unsolicited information, lol. Everyone that is anyone, knows Reno Omokirikiri. If you know Reno, you know Reno. Who no know Reno, no go know Reno. God bless auntie Toyin Ojora-Saraki, lol.

harmonyAris:
Lol nah you did not step on a nerve. Are you pissed I called you stupid? Aww tot I affirmed "no malice" I'm sorry baby boy.

harmonyAris:
Dear I do not care about the word ekklesia or whatever pseudo train of thought you learnt to boost your ego here. I'm talking about how the doctrines of the catholic is in contrary to what Christmas taught.

harmonyAris:
Keep your pseudo knowledge to yourself. I don't give a fück about Ignatius.

harmonyAris:
I do give a lot care about Jesus.

harmonyAris:
Still with the ekklesia thing huh

harmonyAris:
He asked the people to go check the meaning of catholic which means "encompassing". Checks out!

harmonyAris:
I see where your problem lies. You simply read to attack. Those nuggets from Reno must've or still torments you. Take that up with him huh

harmonyAris:
Well you listing the faults of the pentecostal does not validate those of the catholics. Its just as simple as that. Two wrongs dont make a right! Truth!

harmonyAris:
Here we go again with Reno Reno Reno.......no he won't. He has looked into enough penterascal plates, peeping into the catholical plates to get them get their shit together is admirable

harmonyAris:
Reno Reno Reno. Again

harmonyAris:
And I'm obligated to tell you, why?

harmonyAris:
You're so entitled.

harmonyAris:
Singing Renos name like a baby even when you do so little to mind your own business.

harmonyAris:
Big grammar don't cloud stupidity honestly (ah there I go again) premium trash is still trash

harmonyAris:
Your attempts to sound knowledgeable make you appear desperate hence more stupid(no malice)

harmonyAris:
Giving me the history of the origin of the word ekklesia has no relation with what I intended to research about them.

harmonyAris:
That word wasn't the major point that reno talked about.

harmonyAris:
His major points were
1. "Catholic being an encompassing religion"

2. Directly disobeying the Christ's precedence in the case of calling fellow man "father" "rev father", "pope which also means father"

3. "The veneration of Mary and so called saints"

4. "Supposedly worshipping God through carved images"

5. "Compulsorily forbidden marriage as a criteria in their enlistment" (so called priestship)

6. "Their claim to be infallible" (one or a group who does no wrong)

7. "And having 73 books instead of 66 popularly accepted

All these are in direct struggles with what Christ or his disciples taught.

harmonyAris:
(what Reno Omokirikiri was doing and going at great lengths while at it, is sneakingly trying to put it out there in the public domain space, that he has blue blood flowing in his veins, that as he has the Olu of Warri royalty blood flowing in him, then he is to be looked at, as a person of noble birth, lol. It is very easy to read Reno like a book, this)

The above statement makes you sound vain, proud and restrainable to shifting your paradigm. Deep down you knew this wasn't Renos intention but you would make it so to make your idea believeable. Questioning your believing doesnt make you susceptible, it rather gives clarity. As long as u don't renounce it, you come out more affirmed.

harmonyAris:
Corazon is a twitterian I like very much. Thanks

MuttleyLaff:
why the word "church", is falsely used in place of Christ's ekklesia leaves one literally open-mouthed
No doubt, there are strong indications of foul-play somewhere down the history lanes of church, as "church" DOESN'T COME from the original Koine Greek word ekklesia.

As regards the chequered and real truth about ""Church"; where did it come from and where is it headed?”, lack of space and time doesn't permit elaborating, hence these following bullet points:

• Adam & Eve in Eden fast forward to Matthew 16:18 and Acts 2:41
• Roman Emperors Constantine and Licinius' Edict of Milan in AD 313 which established a policy of religious freedom for all.
(i.e. a proclamation that permanently legalised Christianity in the Roman Empire)
• Christianity becoming the official religion of the Roman Empire.
• the sell-out and/or shady deal(s)(e.g. "Church" and State collaboration under Constantine)
• The regularisation and formation of the Roman Catholic Church (i.e. RCC)
• Roman Empire's adoption of RCC as "official" church during Constantine's reign
• The supremacy of the Roman bishop (i.e. the papacy) created/aided with the support of the Roman emperors (i.e. Constantine and his successors)
• Constantine calling the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325, in an attempt to unify Christianity when doctrinal disputes arose
(e.g. Arianism, doctrines named after Arius, a teacher in the early 4th century A.D) and presiding over this first ecumenical church council
• the exploits of the apostles, all charged up in their faith, preaching the Gospel and like Jesus willing to die horrible deaths because of it.
• The apostolic period (i.e. including The "patristic writings'') - about contemporaries of the apostles like Linus, mentioned in 2 Timothy 4:21, and who became the bishop of Rome after Peter was martyred
• the ante-Nicene (i.e. before Nicaea) period - about the likes of Ignatius and his "ekklesia katholicos" phrase, he was a disciple of the apostle John
• the post-Nicene "church" period - about the likes of Augustine, bishop of Hippo, who is often called the father of the [Roman Catholic] Church because of his great work in Church doctrine
• The term "Roman Catholic" defined by Emperor Theodosius on February 27th, 380 in the Theodosian Code.
In that document, he referred to those who hold to the "religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter"
as "Roman Catholic Christians" and gave them the official sanction of the empire
• the first canon (i.e. Muratorian Canon), the progressive acceptance of other books as canonical and have them make up the 66 books of the bible
• The fall of the Roman Empire in AD 476 and the rise of the Roman Catholic Church
• the Pontifex Maximus; the highest office in the state religion of ancient Rome and at the collapse of the Roman Empire, RCC popes taking on this title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors
• the tragic compromise of believers with the introduction of pagan religions and assimilation of paganism influences
(i.e. the Romanization and paganization of Christianity and the "Christianization" of pagan beliefs)
• Apostolic succession and Pope Gregory in AD 590, upon assuming office denying any responsibility or support for any ambition to the throne of Peter
• "Church" and State fully merged as the Holy Roman Empire
• Subsequent popes exercising authority over kings and emperors, taking on imperial powers along with ecclesiastical authority (e.g. St Leo III)

MuttleyLaff:
"John, to the seven congregations {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} which are in Asia:
Grace be unto you and peace from him who is and who was
and who is to come and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne"
- Revelation 1:4

It's you who simply misses and/or missed the crucial point about ekklesia and what it is. The word "church" does not come from the Greek word ekklesia

Ekklesia has always been, case in point as seen in Revelation 1:4 above, where and/or when Ignatius of Antioch, who incidentally was a disciple of the author of the above Revelation 1:4 verse, as in the person of Apostle John, coined the "ekklesia katholicos" phrase, it was used to mean the called out ones universally, in distinct to the local, town or city assemblies

harmonyAris:
Going right now to do my own research. I will be back

shadeyinka:
That highlighted in RED is untrue. If you think it is, please quote me and I will apologize!

My quotes:

sonmvayina:
Consciousness is not a thing.. We are alive because we are conscious, when the consciousness (God) leaves the body the body experiences death.. And the body becomes unconscious... I drew this idea from genesis 1:26..let us make man in our own image after our likeness ".. Man = consciousness +physical body.. God provided the consciousness and the earth provided the dust for the physical body.. Man is the miracle of nature...
In the babylonian creation myth.. God(Enki) and mother Ninmah (the earth) where the creators of man... In yoruba it is Obatala and the earth too(xxxx)..same idea with different nomenclature... Same all round the earth.. In igbo it is Igwe and Ala... Same God different nomenclature

Blabbermouth:
Ahnahn.... Does this level of stupidity exist?? I've witnessed LordRẹẹd and also XxxSabrínaxxX. I seen the craziness of OtẹmAtum and the ignorance of michẹllakabod1, but they are all no match for you. I haven't seen anyone as dumb and as foolish as you are......

sonmvayina:
Who is this crash test dummy.?.

kkins25:
This is what makes me wonder how muttleylaff ended up still being a Christian who awaits the sound of a trumpet. I just cannot fathom it, why he deliberately ignore the fact that elements in Christianity can be found in other religions.. why he still think God divided himself into three different individuals yet the same being still marvels me till this day.

shadeyinka:
Okay o!
No vex!

shadeyinka:
We've said the same thing even though we don't agree about how.

shadeyinka:
Adam and Eve's nakednẹss was covered QED!

Janosky:
When will MuttleyLaff desist from making a mockery of his scriptural illiteracy and blindness?

Job1:3, Is Job "the sons of God" in Job 1:6 & 2:1 ?

Hades exists in Greek mythology. Is the Greek Hades not spoken of in the New Testament ?
In the same vein, is Tartarus not spoken of in 2Peter 2:4?

*Jude 1:6, are the angels who sinned & were chained in Tartarus not awaiting judgment?
Where are criminals kept while awaiting judgment?
2 Peter 2:4 = common sense & divine wisdom.
*Hebrews 1:7. Psalm 104:4 Are angels flesh and blood?

The Hebrew expression "Sons of God" has only one meaning> 'Angels'.
* In Genesis 6:4, what's the crime in a man ('son of God') impregnates his woman?
Genesis 6:4, points to the fact that those offsprings were 'abnormal',so to speak, not according to divine will.
Jude1:6 ,2 Peter2:4. 1Peter3:19,20. Job1:6 are the meat for the bone of Gen6:4.
1Peter3:20 says the 'spirits' in verse19 were disobedient during Noah's day.
* There is none as blind as he who stubbornly refuses to see.... oh MuttleyLaff !![

MuttleyLaff:
Janosky, I am 10000% sure that, you will NEVER find it in you, to present here, where the Bible in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Genesis 6:4, Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19 and/or 2 Peter 2:4 specifically says that the "sons of God" are angels, lol. All you'll be able to do is try your usual "wuru-wuru" "wayo-wayo" and "cunning-man" devious way(s) to give an answer

Janosky, whilst we are awaiting you oblige the immediate above humble request, why dont you please paste here:
1/ As many translations of Job 1:3 that you can lay your hands on
2/ Also paste here, a reliable interlinear of Job 1:3 for both of us, to together, study, examine and compare it with what you've pasted up for #1 above, lol

If you have the balls, try me, tempt fate now, and just oblige all three requests lol, and watch Janosky, especially with the last two requests, how your argument and your defence, that "sons of God" are angels, is blown out of water, and that's going to be even before your performance has gotten the chance to get off the ground, lol, bwahahaha.

MuttleyLaff:
We will see who is the real "wuru-wuru-to-the-answer" "wayo-wayo" and "cunning-man-die" here, lol and thats if at all, you'll already answer or respond to the above three requests

shadeyinka:
You are angry?

shadeyinka:
Why now!

shadeyinka:
Sorry dear!

shadeyinka:
It was just a side comment!
I didn't mean any harm o!

shadeyinka:
I am just reiterating that we are vastly different in scriptural interpretation (in agreement with your last post)

shadeyinka:
I agree with you here.
And that's why some people feel that homosexuality is Righteousness if it is between consenting Christian adults: and some of us see the same scriptures with a simplistic attitude

shadeyinka:
I think we should allow this to end.

shadeyinka:
We obviously don't see the scriptures with the same understanding in very major ways.