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Christianity Etc › Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 1:56pm On Aug 24, 2019
budaatum:
The Right Answer!

You might have noticed if you read on the previous thread that this post was in response to muttley who asked "what personality has the god that you've created with your intellect", essentially asking that I create for him an image of my God, hence the title, the first and second of the Ten Commandments, thou shall worship no other Gods and do not make graven images, which I'm claiming to be inclined to seriously consider more than others for reasons given in the op, and which muttley asked me to break, though I'm certain it wasn't intentional and his yada got in the way. Blindness, I call it. That which stops one being conscious.
[s]The question for which paypal £100 was offered and which was tricky, was how much would be in the vault when the person hits 40 years old? I guess you'd need experience to answer it correctly which no one did, so let me walk you through it.

Your forty year old child can not put a pound in a vault until it is old enough to count months and old enough to earn a pound a month and old enough to open vaults. So ma or pa, you, would have done it for the earliest of years, pound in a vault every month till lets say, 6 years old when your child starts hawking ẹkọ - though I doubt any of you would task your child that way, so lets say, 12, when your child starts hawking eggs, though I doubt any of you would task your child with that either, so, 16, when you deduct it from pocket money? 18? 24? Let's go with 16. At 16 years old, you, ma and pa will say to your child, "My child, in this vault therein I put, a pound every month thou lived. Now, to you give I".

Something, must have made you, ma and pa put a pound in a vault for every month your child has lived till you hand the responsibility to your child. And hopefully, you earn enough so todays about ₦500 doesn't hurt much, though, the more it hurt the more it likely meant. If you are wealthy, that something might make your pound a month in the vault double or triple or go tenfold even, unless we are to assume you'll never reflect and grow and aren't thinking school fees. But that's by-the-by, and on the assumption your child hits 16 and becomes responsible for the vault that ma and pa you, have been putting a pound in every month your child lived. How much would be in your child's vault by the time your child hits 40 years old?

I'm inclined to leave this question unanswered as a long running fund raising thread as it's work has not appeared to be completely done, but so it not in the future be pointed out as the buda yahoo yahoo thread, as in one where I swindled everyone out of a £100 because, not a single person on here got the answer right, I won't. I know the fault is mine. I'm certain if I'd raised it to £1000 for the right answer, you would have all worked harder. But as I said, you obviously already do, storing up even many pounds a day every day you live, and in a vault for your child, so, blessed are you and your fruits, for they evolve from your seedling, albeit, slowly, but accordingly.

As you have guessed, the pound in a vault is the wisdom in your head first put in it by ma and pa then the responsibility becomes your own with 16*12, £192 in your vault and 24 years of a pound a month to go till you hit 40. So, question. Would you continue putting a single pound in your vault every month, or spend it, or put in a lot more than a pound a month?

If you are anything like me you'd likely figure a pound a month will be a measely £480 by the time you hit 40. We're looking at years of work here where you'd be earning, so you'd likely put in a lot more. It's what you after all do, accumulating knowledge at a slow rate in your early years and increasing it many fold as you grow older. Would you not put £2 in every month there on or a lot more even? I'll let you ponder.

I commend FOLYKAZE and LoJ and the many others for first best answers. Special engagement thanks go to Ranchhoddas for his insight. Thanks to Truthsbitter for storing intellect and a yada to muttley with thanks to all for participating. Every tiny bit made your cups runneth over.

Please note that one person not on Nairaland was paid for being the closest to the right answer. Her vault had £4800 in it but more important was how she got so much. I think being a banker had to do with it.

This thread, raised £9860, which will go to the personal welfare fund of buda. All requests for parts thereof are emphatically denied. If you wish to challenge that your already given answer deserves to be paid for, please go ahead. Your answers will be reviewed accordingly. No future answers will however be considered.

Get a vault folks. You may start with a pound a month but in time you are sure to grow in wisdom which moths will never eat, will not rust or be stolen by thieves, and one day, we will all be wealthily wise[/s].
As usually you grossly misinterpreted and misunderstood what the question "what personality has the god that you've created with your intellect" is asking

Everyone is expected to know God, everyone is expected to acknowledge God. Every human being is expected to fear God, for you budaatum, that means to hold God in reverence etctera

Now the "yada" from first and second part of the Ten Commandments says:
1/ You shall not have no other gods before me (i.e. Exodus 20:3)
2/ 4You shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; (i.e. Exodus 20:4-5)

As I had previously pointed out to you budaatum, but it went swoosh over your head, like as if it was a Naija Airforce fighter jet and "you didn't know warris going on" God has no problem with human beings having a God knowledge or "yada" God, but what God is saying with the first and second commandment, is not to have a false knowledge of Him. God is particular about people not making a false representation of the God, He is. God doesnt want human beings to advance a perverted intelligence about God or what the Bible doesnt say God is. In fact, both the first and second commandment is emphasising not to have and not to paint a false picture about and/or of God etcetera. This was the gist and idea behind my question, not all that your rash and ill-judged version of event.

Each human being is a circle whose circumference is nowhere and centre is in one point while God is a circle with its circumference nowhere too but centre everywhere. Now the thing about most atheists, is that, they have formed/created a god with their intellect, and this god, they've developed, is impersonal, as in, unlike the true picture of God, their idea of god is one with no personality.

budaatum, do you recall me asking you a question with the following previous comment?:"If you all make your intellect as gods, what personality has the god that you've created with your intellect then? Curious to know. I bet its impersonal"
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff:
bellong:
I do not understand how you guys manifest the fruit of the spirit with the attitude you display here.

Despite the claim of knowledge of the scriptures, yet you can't show basic courtesy and respect for each other. Comparing scriptures with scriptures shouldn't be done with insults and jabs, it is not Christ-like. Such behaviour is filled with strife and desire to be heard.

It is good to educate each other but when it is filled with insults, side jabs, it is no longer education or admonishment but fleshly desire to show superiority.

We are not so learned of Christ. Please if you cannot discuss without insult or name-calling, there is no point to hold such discussion
bellong, I sincerely hope you dont take this personal, just like you do did with my first mention to you, because, even if you would, it wont stop me repeating to you, what similarly, I earlier typed to butterfly777, which is, you too, haven't been honest, fair, just and balanced on your observations of what's being going on the thread and nailing the nail on the head on who the instigator and aggressor is, in the whole matter.

bellong, now tell me, is it polite calling others names, hmm? Is it polite or Christ-like introducing unrelating subject or issues to threads hmm? Is manifesting the fruit of the spirit with the attitude displayed here by repeatedly doing ad hominems, hmm?

If we rightfully, as in Psalm 82:6 and confirmed by Jesus, in John 10:34, are called gods, I wonder what kind of god, a person is, who cant be fair, just and straightforward, but is straddling on the fence and not calling guilty people out by names, but is hiding behind curtains, pretending to advise and warn others not to behave badly, when all that's done, is talk out of both sides of mouth, and giving out, at least on one occasion, subtle crab mentality shades and writing as if, you subscribe to people be intellectual doormats.

Nobody can accuse me, of not being ready and prepared to honour a mention and invite to an open thread to discuss whatever topic anyone is interested in to talk about. From the onset, I made it clear that such threads should get opened, mention and invite me to discuss there, but what am I to do, if that generous offer is ignored and/or declined

Nobody can accuse me, of not rebuffing and turning down responding to unrelated topics that repeated attempts were made of trying to have them introduced to the thread, all in the hope of gaining unfair and undue advantages.

Am I to blame, if people want to supress the truth? Am I to keep quiet, if people refuse to let the Bible speak by itself, hmm? Or keep quiet when people are speaking for the Bible or putting words in the Bible's mouth, say what not the Bible has said erhn?

bellong, I have intensively gone through your profile. I have seen some of your fruits. From what I've so far managed to see and read about you, you come across as a person with a level-headed, right, sincere, smart and genuine heart. I was also remarkably impressed about a certain gesture you did, it is touching, so please I dont want to fall out with you or anyone like you, with this post. One thing about me, is that, if I can help it and/or if on the right ocassion, I dont mince words, then, I say things as they are. That is exactly what I am doing here now. I know all these guys, which is why I dont suffer anyone of them gladly and come down on them strong. They each call me a fool, not realising, I know I am, I know I am a fool. Everyone is someone's else fool. We all are someone's fool, but these clowns dont even know they are greater fools than I am. Individually, they are bigger fools than I am, and thats where and how the joke is on them.

EnthronedbyGod:
Succinctly said.
I've pleaded yet, they continue.
This is why I don't engage people cos it leads to strife.

God bless
Smh, stoking the fire. Why are you continuing with this comment. Is it hard for you to lead by example ni? Like jesusjnr, like EnthronedbyGod, like the apple doesnt fall far from the tree OkCornel. The three clown musketeers

OCTAVO:
GOD bless you for this post sir, I left this thread for same reason only to come back and meet same trend (by their fruits we shall know them). Infact, I scroll past posts from certain monikers because reading their comments is pointless.
Judge righteously between every man and his brother, do not act unjustly in judgment. Do not judge according to the flesh. Do not follow a multitude or majority to do evil.

OCTAVO, way too many times, we fall victims to all the above. I pray God bless us with more wisdom and grace.

You have my blessing. Enjoy your prerogative of scrolling past posts from certain monikers because reading their comments is pointless.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff:
OkCornel:
See how the long Epistles are flowing out whilst the matter of him supporting homosexuality was totally dodged in all the responses.
If you want to hide information from someone like this guy, just put it in a post. He has trouble challenges with reading and understanding posts. He sees and calls them "long Epistles"

OkCornel:
Obviously I'm chatting you now, but he'll still butt in to reply this one if he can't control himself.
I promised you, I will come after you and accordingly, if you so ever type about Muttleylaff, whether openly or in code, directly or indirectly, that if you write about MuttleyLaff disguisedly or not disguisedly, I will know, I will sooner or later find out and obviously will come after you and respond back when I do, so dont pretend as if you havent been pre-warned.

You already have 99 problems, why are you bent on wanting me be number 100. Suck it up, go in a corner somewhere, quietly go lick the bruises there. Shush, be quiet about MuttleyLaff and any thing related to MuttleyLaff. Biko. Thanks but no thanks. Mtcheeew.

OkCornel:
Abeg make the OP continue with the thread so others following can be blessed.

Cheers.
Though clowns creep me out, I am on this thread, surrounded by too many clowns but I've resigned myself, to the fact that in this life, the world needs clowns too, who are stubborn, disobedient and rebellious sons, who will not obey the voice of jesusjnr and EnthronedbyGod, but if jesusjnr is unable to practice what he preaches, what chance have you got in obeying your bosses' orders.

I blame jesusjnr, the yellow-bellied, for your insubordination.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:52am On Aug 24, 2019
CaveAdullam:
That is the last dose Classic Specimen Of A Human Being. ayam sorry sir. Lol
Trust me and mark this word, my dear sir, they each one, one after the other are going to be sorrier, if they dont repent and make ammends. The clock has started to tick-tock count down for each one of them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:39am On Aug 24, 2019
CaveAdullam:
Shey you have mouth abi, you know how to talk bla bla bla, henceforth any revelations of yours that cannot be confirmed by the Holy Bible will be counted as leap of your foolishness. So before you say anything in regards to Christendom here and outside this forum just endeavor to have back up scriptures.

Did our Master the Lord Jesus Christ resided back to the caves when challegend by the Pharisees? Answer me bros.

You are scared of the truth, your heart becomes broken when you see your most cherish false revelations about scattering in the Light of the Truth. Is this how you behave; by doing hide and seek with the unbelievers when carrying out the assignment of the great commission?

Instead of doing hide and seek with CaveAdullam, Anas09, Muttleylaff and other Monikers why not come up with at least a reasonable rebuttal even if it is not robust.

BTW that portrait you and your cohorts are parading as Jesus Christ is False. I'm telling you so that you guys won't make a fool of yourselves outside this forum.

Gold is Gold because it has passed through Fire. Jesusjnr come test your revelations with the fire of the Holy Ghost if you are so sure of them and stop playing hide and seek.

Thanks.

God bless.
CaveAdullam what is all this now after all you read me write. You want to say you havent seen what I beggingly wrote to you ni?

CaveAdullam, you and I, go take legs enter same and one trousers ooo. Leave this person alone, dont waste your breath, time and energy on jesusjnr. He doesnt deserve having both our breaths, time and energies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff:
OkCornel:
@enthronedbyGod and Jesusjnr, see how that dude is spamming my mentions like his destiny depends on it.

You're right after all, I was minding my business on this thread before he mentioned me.

Just about anything to get my attention.

I just dey look am.
jesusjnr:
Weldone bro.

I know it's not easy, but just try for that ability not to respond to such mentions is something you would definitely need along the way.

God bless you mightily bro.
It is only a rebellious person, a weak arse person, someone with the spirit of witchcraft, who is unable to obey orders. Your bosses EnthronedbyGod and jesusjnr, had used every trick in the bad begging you, to ignore and not respond in any shape or form, either in disguise or no disguise, directly or indirectly. They even used psychological manipulation and emotional blackmail, but you being a weak arsed, you having a mind of your own, you being no one tells you want to do, you being I do it my way person, just have to disobey their wise counsel and good advice. You have 99 problems, why are you bent on wanting me be number 100. Suck it up, go in a corner somewhere, quietly go lick the bruises there. Shush, be quiet about MuttleyLaff and any thing related to MuttleyLaff. Biko.

I cant believe I am agreeing with jesusjnr here, yes oo, "just try for that ability not to respond to such MuttleyLaff mentions and anything related to it, is something you would definitely need along the way.". I dont think you can manage that though, you arent cut out for taking advices to the letter, same way about not liking to read long posts

I promise I will come after you and accordingly, if you so ever type about Muttleylaff, whether openly or in code, directly or indirectly, If you write about MuttleyLaff disguisedly or not disguisedly, I will know, I will sooner or later find out and obviously will come after you and respond back when I do, so dont think you havent been pre-warned

jesusjnr:
p.s. I tried as hard to ignore but I was forced to, and i believe you can now understand why. wink
Nothing wey miguard no go see from house gate door. Would you believe this, admitting to lack of discipline, lack of self control, bunch of first class sissies. The typical Pharisaical spirit, that cant practice what they preach and/or teach
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:07am On Aug 24, 2019
jesusjnr:
Whatever you say you're entitled to your opinion, but you shouldn't complain since you first mentioned me here even though I didn't respond then.

You can now continue in your folly with your homosexualist brother, for this is the second and the last time I would respond to you foolishness here.

Thank you.
Just already crawl back to that green undergrowth grass you came out from. Ever heard the saying "keep your grass cut short to see the snakes" There is no hiding place for you and your slithering repugnant greater fool self. Stay too long in the open, your head unceremoniously will be pronto crushed and cut off
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:02am On Aug 24, 2019
OkCornel:
Nothing about Elijah's grave.

Nothing about your stance on homosexuality.

Hot air with no substance.

Ah... just observing whilst more tantrums are thrown about...
Can you see the spirit of witchcraft in you. EnthronedbyGod, knows about it and has vast knowledge in it to educate you, that you're displaying that gift.

For rebellion, is, as the sin of witchcraft, you are rebelling against the advices of your bosses, jesusjnr and EnthronedbyGod. You refuse to obey their orders. What impression are you making to them with this behaviour, erhn?
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:57am On Aug 24, 2019
CaveAdullam:
This one just mentioning CaveAdullam up and down........ Vbosùnü Jesusjnr? Keep this your trash of "False Humility" to the can, I don't care......... Wetin happen bros?

See the way you castigating the classic specimen of a human being @muttleylaff when you yourself have flaws.............abi no be you say Apostle Paul for Bible made many mistakes make you still dey try correct? oga sir, Jesu Christi say make you remove the log of wood may dey your eyes before removing the speck of dust may dey muttleylaff eyes.........shikena

You want us to see you as being highly spiritual by claiming "Lucifer himself came to visit you abi branch your area, that I nor care. Number 2 you came up with a portrait of Jesus Christ on this thread, Hmmmm....... Your head never still tell you say you are under delusion abi?

Homosexuality is abominable and I will rather risk my ticket to heaven for hell than accept the claims of homosexuality no matter how true it may appear. Muttleylaff is a CaseMaker, because you are scared of the truth you don't reply his mentions unlike Shepherd and OkCornel......... And here you are bros painting apostle Paul black and calling others all sorts of nonsense.

You don't throw away a baby in a water bath because of the bad water bro. What you do is separate the infant from the water bath and do away with the bad water and that is what you see me doing with muttleylaff. What binds every Christians together is not doctrines or denominations; be it celestial, cherubim and seraphim, Christ embassy, winners, catholic, synagogue, redeem etc Na JESUS CHRIST NA BE THE YOKE WEY BIND US TOGETHER. Inasmuch you believe in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ with all thy heart, Spirit, Soul and Body you are free to go BUT WILL NOT GROW EFFECTIVELY WHEN ENTANGLED IN THE WRONG DOCTRINES.

Oga Jesusjnr you have not repented. But the Lord is willing and able to help you only if you will pray the prayer of PSALMS 139:23......... E go pain you o but Las Las na you go still dey enjoy am wella. Lol.

Your strawman is always too bad bro. Any truth that cannot stand the light of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God will begin and end like the tower of Babel.

Thanks.

God bless.
CaveAdullam, again, and on my knees, I say, please sheath your sword and hold your peace, begging you. This is not a fight for you, please remain silent about this jesusjnr fellow. jesusjnr's cup of wrath is filled to the brim, he next soon will be drinking the cup of trembling, if he does not repent and make peace with God
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:51am On Aug 24, 2019
OkCornel:
Now I have stopped mentioning him, he can't keep his end of the rope.

If you're not in support of homosexuality as I and Jesusjnr pointed out, come out clearly and say so.

If you can't deal with this, just move on abeg.

And yeah, still nothing concerning the grave or burial location of Prophet Elijah.

Abeg, let this thread continue with the OPs update.
"You're less than a learner. You've shown yourself up with your beliefs in bullshits, fantasy and slanderous trash talk.

Practice what you preach. Stop my mentions, stop responding to posts that mentions MuttleLaff and affairs related to Muttleylaff, and I'll stay off your mention. If you fail to do, I promise to come after you and accordingly

Stick to the genesis, leave out unrelated and irrelevant homosexual topics and whatnot.
"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 4:13pm On Aug 22

You are weak and a complete let-down, simple order from your bosses, simple instruction from jesusjnr and EnthronedByGod, who both, are cut from the same cloth, to ignore me, you cant muster that. What a pity, smh.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:45am On Aug 24, 2019
CaveAdullam:
This one just mentioning CaveAdullam up and down........ Vbosùnü Jesusjnr? Keep this your trash of "False Humility" to the can, I don't care......... Wetin happen bros?

See the way you castigating the classic specimen of a human being @muttleylaff when you yourself have flaws.............abi no be you say Apostle Paul for Bible made many mistakes make you still dey try correct? Ogbenî Jesu Christi say make you remove the log of wood may dey your eyes before removing the speck of dust may dey muttleylaff eyes.........shikena

You want us to see you as being spiritual by claiming "Lucifer himself came to visit you abi branch your area, that I nor care. Number 2 you have come up with a portrait of Jesus Christ on this thread, Hmmmm....... Your head never still tell you say you are under delusion abi?

Homosexuality is abominable and I will rather risk my ticket to heaven for hell than accept the claims of homosexuality nor matter how true it seems to appear. Muttleylaff is a CaseMaker, because you are scared of the truth you don't reply his mention unlike Shepherd and OkCornel......... And here you are bros painting apostle Paul black and calling others all sorts of nonsense.

You don't throw away a baby in a water bath because of the bad water bro. What you do is separate the infant from the water bath and do away with the bad water and that is what you see me doing with muttleylaff. What binds every Christians is not doctrines or denominations, be it celestial, cherubim and seraphim, Christ embassy, winners, synagogue, redeem etc
CaveAdullam, please sheath your sword and hold your peace, I beg you. This is not a fight for you, please remain silent about this jesusjnr fellow. jesusjnr's cup of wrath is filled to the brim, he next soon will be drinking the cup of trembling, if he does not repent and make peace with God
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:37am On Aug 24, 2019
OkCornel:
@enthronedbygod and Jesusjnr. Just as I expected, a long Epistle without the grave or burial location of Elijah is the reply I got back.

Hell bent on spinning around teleportation theories to suit narratives.

Smh
I am sorry, if you find long post(s) challenging for you. It is apparent the content in the post, went swoosh over your head, like as if it was a Naija Airforce fighter jet and "you didn't know warris going on" Well you cant turn round and say, it's my fault now, can you, especially as its obvious, you find it challenging putting effort, in reading other people's long posts.

If you want to hide information from someone like this guy, just put it in a long post. He has trouble challenges with reading and understanding long posts.

Prophet Obadiah, Ezekiel, the sons of the prophets, and Philip too must have been spinning around with teleportation theories to suit their narratives.

OkCornel:
@jesusjnr, did you notice how the matter of homosexuality was totally dodged in that response to you?

So much for elusiveness....
Why should I become embroiled in what has got nothing to do with whats currently discussed. It is when people like youse, the OkCornel, the jesusjnr, the enthronebyGod, sense and know you're loosing ground, that you resort to bringing in completely unrelated matter to whats on the ground just to gain mileage and be using ad hominem to attack for gaining unfair advantage etcetera
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:17am On Aug 24, 2019
jesusjnr:
I first encountered this guy sometime late last year when I first came to Nairaland on one of my early threads. But it seems I was immediately able to sense that something was wrong with him from the onset, since I deliberately ignored him despite responding to some others who even quoted me after him.

But he kept disturbing me and trying to seek my attention, so I thought I should respond to him for all his efforts and at least hear what he had to say.

Do you know that my decision to ignore him at first was justified because I regretted it after doing so, because I had found him to be someone that would say something, but at the same time be denying what he said even when the evidence of what he said was right in front of his eyes.

That made me know that he had really serious issues, and that arguing with such a person would be a waste of time, so from then up til this very day I have never responded once to his mentions at least not directly, not even once.

But do you know that if someone can die from mentioning, that the poster could have not only killed but already buried me by now?

The first time I came to know he supported homosexualism was from the mouth of someone close to me here, a former atheist, who had told me she had made a thread to call him out for his support of homosexualism, abortion etc, but I advised her not to get into the gutter with him, and after much pleading she finally agreed to shelve it.

And you can see how wise that step was, for today what was secret has been revealed, but you can yet see how useless God's instructions concerning the abominable act is being completely denied and ignored by him as though they don't exist.

But prior to him coming fully out to openly declare his support for homosexualism, there was someone active on this thread formerly with the moniker arogbeide or so, now caveadullam, who I had told this concerning him, but this guy completely denied it to the extent that caveadullam believed him that I just made that up as a smokescreen.

But I believed the caveadullam lived to regret it because what the homosexualist denied beforehand to his belief, he was later on the neck of the same caveadullam preaching the gospel of homosexualism for caveadullam to accept, to his embarrassment I believe, because I who had forewarned him about such concerning that fella was a witness to it all.

But yet this was the same homosexualist that was here mocking me on this thread at some point when I was at the receiving end of many attacks and jokes, and even mocked and rejoice at my departure from the thread then, was being foolishly joined by the same caveadullam to laugh me to scorn.

And at that point knowing their folly and truth about what was going on, I just left without responding to their concerted onslaught, but here I am back on this thread by the Holy Ghost and not by man, but you can see the treatment the unrepentant and passionate homosexualist who mocked me is now receiving, and tell who is now the butt of many jokes.

Hence my plea to you to ignore him even though he mentioned you, because if you expect him to not mention you for you to ignore him on this thread, then you would have to keep responding to him till thy kingdom come.

At least not on this thread if you really care about souls, for I expect you should have seen how despite that anas09 had attacked me severally on this thread, I had to settle any scores with her out of this thread, because this thread means a lot to me as you may have already seen from my several comments here.

So I join the op to yet plead with you again, ignore this guy, even if he mentions you.

God bless.
"luvmijejè and you, jèsusjnr, are both cut from the same cloth
but do you know why luvmijejè is confusing, oh really, confusing to you, like you've admitted, as seen reproduced above
It is because she's nothing but a two-faced liar, a lurking green snake in the green grass, and an accuser/fault-finder of Paul
"
- Re: Daddy Freeze: The Second Coming Of John The Baptist by MuttleyLaff: 9:05pm On Dec 25, 2018

"jèsusjnr and àlBHAGDADI should go start fertilizer plants.

àlBHAGDADI will distort anything in the bible in order to justify entitlement to tithes and so validate, spread and promote obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing. jesusjnr, on the other hand, in cahoot with luvmijejè, is an easily scared, self styled attacker of Apostle Paul who relishes in laying charges against Paul, by slandering and codemning him
"
- Re: Daddy Freeze Hails Pastor Abel Damina For Saying Women Can Wear Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 6:54pm On Apr 14

"I am lowering my standards, if to wrestle you jesusjnr. Besides I never wrestle a pig. Bad move, poor judgment and taste it'll be, as the pig and I will both get dirty, but unlike me, the pig likes and enjoys the dirt.

Do sycophant, arse-lickers & arse-kissers bullshitters always need to stoop as low as you've written so? Arse-lickers & arse-kissers bullshitters like you, are always the first post false bullshits & start drama. I'll whoop your bumbum, your brain will reset and your false bullshits & drama evaporate. Mtcheew. No wonder you're the arse-licker & arse-kisser, and I am an arse-kicker.

Your insecurities are loud. Your boastings and gloating to luvmijeje confirms you shamelessly need regard & appreciation from her. Stop seeking recognition and validation from people, jesusjnr!. All these your, sucking up to luvmijeje, especially, is unflattering
and your all of a sudden, lately attention-seeking, famzing Freeze, all over the forum, haba, is cringeworthy!

Repent brother because the day of reckoning for your slander and impudence, is round the corner, about to happen
."
- Re: Daddy Freeze: The Second Coming Of John The Baptist by MuttleyLaff: 8:44am On Dec 27, 2018

"People like you, and the likes of Agrogbeide, jesusjnr etcetera understand only to the level of your perception(s). Just think for a moment, how much pleasure you are giving Satan with your discrimination, hypocrisy, bigotry and ignorance. How you are not making every effort to present yourself approved to God, not being a workman that has no reason to be ashamed as he accurately handles the word of truth. You arent correctly and rightly dividing the word of the truth, the message of God's truth"
- Re: THE SIN THAT IS SO PREVALENT. by MuttleyLaff: 8:51am On Apr 28

I will be the first to admit that jesusjnr and EnthronedbyGod are right about me being a fool, but they both are bigger fools than I am

jesusjnr, whos said I am a fool, but doesnt realise he is a greater fool than I am. jesusjnr, for getting involved in a matter that doesnt concerns him, is a bigger fool, than I am. It is an unintelligent fool, someone like jesusjnr, who goes yanking sleeping yanga's leg, looking for yanga's trouble. I am not perturbed about the noises around the MuttleyLaff ID or mudslings thrown at it. I know all each what you jesusjnr and EnthronebyGod are doing and being up to

Argh, this is so wrong, yuck, WORMS coming out of the woodwork, LEECHEES crawling out of the DARK, RATS coming out of their holes they call home and LURKING GREEN SNAKE IN THE GREEN GRASS, the confirmed and bonafide likes of jesusjnr, comes out in the open and begins to sing too.

The woodwork creaks and out comes the freak, jesusjnr.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:17am On Aug 24, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
This is why I said you should ignore him, cos he'll do everything to get your attention
I have informed you umpteenth times, I crave for nobody's attention. I dont need anyone's attention. Dissemination of information is dissemination of information and just that. If anyone doesnt respond to it, so be it, if they do, nothing's spoilt, its alright. What I know is that, in the midst of darkness, light persists.

EnthronedbyGod:
He has told me I'll end up in hell, so calling me a charlatan is small ...
"I am almost certain that except you repent, you possibly might find yourself end up with hell and death in the lake of fire. How do I know? By your antecedents, fruits, your behavioural etcetera. Nothing personal, but saying out of love, what I've observed."
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 1:25pm On Jul 31

Why am I not surprised, you havent got your facts right. That and making tactless and unneccesary remarks plus catering and pandering to your faithful itching ears, is what you're "good" at

EnthronedbyGod:
you can go back and read all he has said against me but I've never responded.
Of course, you'll never respond, because darkness cant drive out light, its light that makes darkness disappear, that's why you're unable to respond. Not that I want you to anyway

No one needs to go back anywhere. I stand by everything I've written concerning you, and fyi, people have been contacting me, asking me to throw more light on why I put up what I wrote about you.

EnthronedbyGod:
Try as much as possible to ignore. I know it's difficult, but it's worth it.

The Bible says he that hath no rule over his spirit is like a city that's broken down and without walls.
Psychological manipulation and emotional blackmail. Wow, you're a weak arse pro.

EnthronedbyGod:
I'll be so happy if you ignore him.

God bless
I'll be happier than you, if he'll ignore
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:17am On Aug 24, 2019
OkCornel:
I love the fact it is centred on Elijah's letter to King Jehoram.
"But ask the beasts, and they will teach you; the birds of the heavens, and they will tell you;"
- Job 12:7

I only brought up the letter because you said, "let me know when you are ready to tell us where Elijah was buried if you think he did not ascend to Heaven", so I mentioned the letter, so you can realise that dead people dont write letters and send letters from the great beyond. The materialisation of that letter proves that Elijah was alive on earth, about 8 years later after the ascension, when the Bible, in II Chronicles 21:12, says, that letter came to King Jehoram from Elijah. So, dont love any fact or anything centred on any letter. The issue IS NOT anchored or centred on a letter. What this issue is centred on are the following:
1/ It is centred on the word, heaven. There are three heavens, arent they?. The first heaven, is the one where the birds fly in the sky, the second heaven, is outer space, where we have the planets, sun, moon, stars etcetera are hung and the third heaven, is the incorporeal habitation of God, which is where Jesus descended from.

The hebrew word used in the 2 Kings 2:11 concerning Elijah's ascension, is "shamayim" It is the same word seen in Job 12:7 reproduced above, used for birds in the sky and the word typifies sky or the air. So just as birds fly in the heaven, likewise, Elijah was caught up in the air, as in, the sky, where the birds fly and taken somewhere else, as in, a different location on earth. He was not taken anywhere about the above the sky or above the air, but just as Philip was in Acts 8:39-40, Elijah too was teleported and/or transported to another location to retire

2/ It is centred on the chariot of fire and horses of fire. The Bible clearly states that the chariot of fire and horses of fire separated Elijah and Elisha period. Nothing more, nothing less concerning the chariot of fire and horses of fire is said, except anyone wants to read into what is written and try put words into the bible's mouth by suggesting that Elijah went up in air with the chariot of fire and horses of fire

3/ It is centred on whirlwind. According to the 2 Kings 2:11 bible verse, Elijah wasn’t taken up to sky, in a chariot of fire, as many popularly believe, but he was caught up in a whirlwind. It says it right there in 2 Kings 2:11, in black and white, is what the Bible says and reports, that Elijah went up by a whirlwind into the sky. Whirlwinds only operate in the first heaven, they dont operate in the second and third heavens.

4/ It is centred on whys and whats. Like, why was Elijah translated, why was Enoch, as well, earlier translated too?. What were both of them being protected from that God caused them to be translated?. The bible says, Elijah went up by a whirlwind, it didnt say, Elijah went up by any a chariot of any kind. The chariot of fire drawn by horses of fire, was there, present to prevent Elisha from obstructing Elijah from leaving, not for use by Elijah, for going up in air to anywhere, as if, into heaven. Why is Elijah writing King Jehoram a letter?

OkCornel:
That bit has caused a whole lot of controversies and debate in the Christendom;

Here are the conflicting views on it;

1) The letter was written before Elijah's ascension to Heaven

2) The Elijah spoken of is different from the one that ascended to Heaven - Elijah is not a unique name in Israel
Theorising, you rather theorise, than let the Bible, outrightly speak for itself. You prefer to put words in the Bible's mouth, right? You'll rather gravitate to the controversies, than the black and white of the Bible, hmmm?

OkCornel:
Muttley, if you insist Elijah did not ascend to Heaven, please let us know where Elijah was buried nau?
"Then the sons of the prophets said to Elisha, "Since there are 50 strong men here with your servants, please let them go and search for your master. Maybe the Spirit of the LORD has carried him away and put him on one of the mountains or into one of the valleys." He answered, "Don't send them."
- 2 Kings 2:16

"12Then the Spirit lifted me up, and I heard a great rumbling sound behind me—blessed be the glory of the LORD in His dwelling place!—
13the sound of the wings of the living creatures brushing against one another and the sound of the wheels beside them, a great rumbling sound.
14So the Spirit lifted me up and took me away, and I went in bitterness and in the anger of my spirit, with the strong hand of the LORD upon me.
15I came to the exiles at Tel-abib who dwelt by the River Kebar. And for seven days I sat where they sat and remained there among them, overwhelmed (i.e. shocked at what had happened to me)
"
- Ezekiel 3:12-15

Just as no one knows where Moses is buried, so, no one knows where Enoch and Elijah were buried. As for Elijah, 2 Kings 2:16 above, inadvertently gives us a clue that Elijah was teleported to another part of earth, because whirlwind is wind, it only exists on earth, it doesnt extend up into the third heaven, where Jesus came down from and/or where God is.

Now 2 Kings 2:16, is corroborated by Ezekiel 3:12-15 also reproduced above, where Ezekiel, another prophet and person, is lifted up in air and carried away to somewhere else, just as Philip too mentioned in Acts 8:39-40 above, was.

"What if the spirit of the LORD carries you off to some unknown place as soon as I leave? Then, when I tell Ahab that you are here and he can't find you, he will put me to death. Remember that I have been a devout worshiper of the LORD ever since I was a boy."
- 1 Kings 18:12

Being carried and taken away by God's Spirit, is a visually striking experience, a phenomenon as it were, very conversant with in the Bible, just was we see prophet Obadiah, in 1 Kings 18:12 above, make reference to this rare occuring phenomenon

OkCornel:
At least there should be something in Jewish History literature, the Tanakh, The Talmud or the Bible that gives indication to Elijah's burial place.
This has been adddressed above, besides, the Bible, in this matter, is my preferred only authority out of your Jewish History literature, the Tanakh, The Talmud or the Bible list.

OkCornel:
I am happy to see you disputing the views of early Christian writers like Irenaeus and Tertullian, the leaders of the early church after the era of the Apostles cheesy, as though they were blind to Elijah's letter to Jehoram as well.
I careless about Irenaeus and Tertullian, who are human beings just as I. I take the words of Jesus above Irenaeus and Tertullian. Jesus said, no one has ever ascended into heaven except Him that came down from there. Was Jesus mistaken when He said this? Of course not, He wasn't.

Making noise is not necessarily making good music
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 11:00pm On Aug 23, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
please kindly end this arguments here.
God bless you as you understand.
What you dont realise is, this isnt an argument, but it is a dissemination of information, as I never argue or engage in arguments.

The only people who are mad at you for speaking the truth are those people who are living a lie and building a profile of telling lies

OkCornel:
Definitely bro.
Muttley please take note too.
Thanks.
The charlatan and sham, is pleading to you OkCornel, not me.

EnthronedbyGod:
please ignore him ...
In time, after I've uploaded my response, let's see whether he'll obey you or ignore your pleading.

EnthronedbyGod:
... even if he calls you out
I dont need to call anyone out. I dont need anyone's response. I dont need anyone's attention. I am not doing this for likes or money, but I am carrying out a moral obligation. Telling someone the truth, is a loving act. They shall know the truth, and the truth shall make them free. Truth will never imprison you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff:
I understand perfectly well, the working behind the crab mentality. I know and understand when people latch out from suffering from low self esteem and/or inferiority complex. I know people who feel inadequate and threatened because of their deficiencies. I feel for people who take other people's word above the Bible, above what the emphatically had said and/or above what the apostles have said or written. It is worrisome when people see other fellow human beings as if they are two headed, as in, see them as super human, more knowledgeable and/or have more intelligence than they have. Some even display a phobia of grammar.

I don't know any wise person that kicks against knowledge, whether it be the letter or the spirit, it dont matter. One has to start from somewhere. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Make what you want, from all you've read on this thread, without indirectly and incognito, slagging off the interlocutors because of ignorance and feeling of embarrassment for not being fully or well informed

PS: OkCornel, I'll be back in the PM, to address your last post. OK?
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:15am On Aug 23, 2019
OkCornel:
Mr Man, you are a distraction.
You're your own distraction, you are the one distracting from what the bible says

OkCornel:
Let the Bible speak for itself you say?
I wish you take to this advice and let the bible speak, and speak, just by itself, without you putting words into Bible mouth.

As Ive previously said, on top, why not begin to wonder, why was Elijah translated, why was Enoch, as well, earlier translated too. What were both of them being protected from that God caused them to be translated. The answers to these questions, are there, right in the bible why. Enoch and Elijah died just like evry other human beings dies, They never ascended to any incorporeal heaven, they got in the air, teleported to another place of earth for their own safety and protection.

The bible says, Elijah went up by a whirlwind, it didnt say, Elijah went up by any a chariot of any kind. The chariot of fire drawn by horses of fire, was there, present to prevent Elisha from obstructing Elijah from leaving, not for use by Elijah, for going up in air to anywhere, as if, into heaven.

OkCornel:
Let me know when you are ready to tell us where Elijah was buried if you think he did not ascend to Heaven.
Ask King Jehoram about that, because he received a letter from Elijah, after Elijah made that ascension into air. I am sure you arent aware of this fact

OkCornel:
The Chariot of fire was only for separation indeed
That is what the bible says. Go argue with the bible. You just like being argumentative, just for argument sake.

When I am not knowledgeable in a subject and not well informed in it, I keep quiet, but you, oh no you dont, you take pride and delight, in arguing with preconceived opinions and ignoring stark nakêd truth and facts of the subject matter.

OkCornel:
Tell us where that same Chariot flung him into the whirlwind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-35-hdWUZuk

I already has told the chariot of fire was not in use for any purpose of catching him up in air, the purpose for catching him up in air, was done by the whirlwind, same and similar way those 300lbs portable public toilets in above video clip were carried in the air. Imagine if it was a tornardo, those human beings crounching on the ground would have been lifted too

Elijah was carried away, the same way Philip in Acts 8:39-40, was carried away to another location not for the eunuch to see him no more again.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 6:45am On Aug 23, 2019
OkCornel:
Yeah, and those cows ended and buildings ended up in Heaven like Elijah.
"And it came to pass as they were going, they went on talking; and, behold, a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and it separated between them both; and Eliu was taken up in a whirlwind as it were into heaven."
- 2 Kings 2:11

No, not at all, but those cows ended up as if into heaven, those buildings ended up as if into heaven, the same way Elijah, ended up, as if into heaven

OkCornel:
Oh...and the flaming chariots were not in the whirlwind at all, they must have had a special stopover somewhere on the way up before shipping off Elijah into the whirlwind...smh
If you let the bible speak for itself, and without you aiding or helping it, it will be evidenced to see that, what the bible says is, as Elijah and Elisha were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire drawn by horses of fire appeared, and thereafter immediately separated Elijah and Elisha from each other, which after Elijah was then caught up in the air by a whirlwind, as in, to be translated elsewhere.

Read 2 Kings 2:11 properly and well nah. Sebi, you go school nah, you attended college, didnt you, you're literate, you sabi read and know book nah, so read am correct and correctly.

On top, why not begin to wonder, why was Elijah translated, why was Enoch, as well, earlier translated too. What were both of them being protected from that God caused them to be translated. The bible says, Elijah went up by a whirlwind, it didnt say, Elijah went up by any a chariot of any kind. The chariot of fire drawn by horses of fire, was there, present to prevent Elisha from obstructing Elijah from leaving, not for use by Elijah, for going up in air to anywhere, as if, into heaven.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:52pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Because you are not seeing the lines connecting the dot there regarding the dreadful day of the Lord.

Joel 2 v 31 and Acts 2 v 20 talks of the sun turning to sackcloth and the moon turning to blood before the terrible day of the Lord comes,

Please, was that what happened in AD 70 that you were implying as the dreadful day of the Lord?



Stories stories stories, Mr. man is this about Elijah ascending into Heaven? or whether he got there by chariots of fire, or whirlwind or a space rocket.

So after the chariots of fire took up Elijah, they flung him into a tornado that took him up to heaven abi? Did you even consider whether the flaming chariots were in the tornado as well, or was even the cause of the tornado in the first place? oh...not at all.

Elijah ascended into Heaven, stop dragging the direction of the discussion away from that.
I am reading exactly what and how the Bible is written but you are reading into the Bible.

Should I show you videos or links of cows and buildings etcetera carried up in the air by tornadoes and transported to a different location huh?
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:37pm On Aug 22, 2019
Shepherd00:
I don beg Cornel, him no gree, make I beg you. Pls stop responding to him. Abeg.
OkCornel:
The conversation is steering towards the end, that's if we're not done already sef...

No worries.
Shepherd00, abi, you too, believe Elijah ascended in a chariot of fire as well, erhn?
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:35pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Yup, I'll also need a good lawyer to explain Songs of Solomon as well. Never mind though, since it's in the bible...that Romeo and Juliet story can pass for the word of God as well... grin

This is me baring my mind here
There is nothing untoward about the Songs of Solomon. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know the koko about the Songs of Solomon.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff:
OkCornel:
If according to you, the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 is dreadful day of the Lord.

Read up Joel 2:31 and Acts 2:20;
The sun turned to sackcloth and the moon turned into blood right? Oh yeah...
So you've abandoned Malachi 4:5, and gone proof-text hunting now, erhn?

Joel 2:31 and Acts 2:20 have nothing to do with Malachi 4:5, and you honestly know that. Haba. Wetin nau.

OkCornel:
2 Kings 2 v 11;
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Muttley, did Elijah ascend to heaven or not? Do you still want to spin it around to mean something else?
OKcornel what was the chariot of fire doing, hmm?

Well contrary to your assertion and belief of an :''the ascension of Elijah on the chariots of fire'', that assertion and belief is wrong, because Elijah DID NOT GO on any chariots of fire. The chariots of fire drawn by horses of fire, actually only came between him and Elisha,
(i.e. the chariots of fire drawn by horses of fire served ONLY, as a demarcation between Elijah and Elisha).

As a matter of fact, Elijah was translated in a whirlwind, or in a tornado if you like, and not with or by any chariot. Read the verse properly and well nah. You go school nah, you attended college, didnt you, you're literate, you sabi read and know book nah, so read am correct and correctly.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:17pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Thank you, please save your views on the book of Enoch for the Ethiopian Church as well. They'll be glad to hear you out.
I am biting my tongue and swallowing what I want to say about that damned Ethiopian version of the Book of Enoch. I hope the Ethiopian Church have a very good lawyer, because they will have a lot explaining to do when faced with the Judge.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:09pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Cool, then let's confine our discussions to the topic on this thread. Thank you!

My first mention on the book of Enoch on this thread was about that, before all of this happened.
OkCornel, I've said my piece about the Book of Enoch. I have provided samples of its ridiculousness.

On top I have given the blessing for any to go ahead, enjoy reading the Book(s) of Enoch. I am a simple, fair and firm person, it was no personal attack on you, it was more of a moral duty on my part, not to keep silent on the questionable genuineness of the book(s). The first century one is lost, but the other three are reverse engineering works.

I have nothing, I am willing to say again about the book here.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:02pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Please do a comprehensive study of the two witnesses.

Read what early Christian writers (Irenaeus & Tertullian) wrote about them. Put that alongside Malachi's prophecy on Elijah returning before the dreadful day of the Lord.

Unless you want to tell us the dreadful day of the Lord has come and gone.
Go find out what happened to the temple and Jerusalem in A.D. 70, hmm?

OkCornel:
Oh, and also please Elijah ascended to Heaven in a flaming chariot as recorded in Kings. There is no disputing that.
Do you want to review this comment erhn? Do you want to give it a good thoroughly and careful rethink, just to make sure you got your facts right here erhn, because I deeply am sorry to burst your bubble and belief that Elijah ever ascended anywhere in a chariot, talkless in a fantansy flaming chariot you mistakenly believed is written in the bible.

I years ago, I've dealt with this topic, I made my researches, only to find out the wrong teachings and/or misconceptions passed down to us

I am not going to spoon feed, so quietly go and re-read 2 Kings 2:11 and return back to edit your comment to correct it. Ask me questions, if need be, to get the whole thing in perspective.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 4:46pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
You started this whole thing by butting your nose into my discussions with EnthronedbyGod on the origins of witchcraft/sorcery when I brought up the book of Enoch to corroborate what he said earlier.
Yes I did and so lets keep discussion confine to that and cultism discussions

OkCornel:
And now, I am telling you get off my mentions. I have repeated this countlessly
I have advised you on how this can come true, equally, EnthronedbyGod too has given you advice, but you choose to ignore both

OkCornel:
You might just be proving Jesusjnr right after all.
I am please to admit that jesusjnr and EnthronedbyGod are right about me, but they both a greater fools than I am
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 4:41pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Any believer worth their salt and light knows John the Baptist is the Elijah promised in Malachi abi?

You mean the same John the Baptist that clearly said he's not Elijah?
Yes I do mean the same John the Baptist that clearly said he's not Elijah

OkCornel:
John 1:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
Of course, he isnt Elijah in the body or flesh. Jesus never preached nor taught reincarnation. The Bible never talks about people being reincarnated following death on earth. John the Baptist was confirming he isnt Elijah in the flesh, being a modest man, he stopped short of confirming he is Elijah in the spirit. He is not Elijah, he isnt that prophet, like he said in John 1:21.

I know what angle about all this, you next are going to come from. Let me wait so you'll prove me right

OkCornel:
Keep on spinning the scriptures Muttley. Well done... undecided
I am not spinning the scripture. I dont have any need to spin the scripture. I dont have anything to gain spinning the scripture. You dont know warris going on, that's the problem
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff:
jesusjnr:
Please my bro, stop dignifying the fool with a response (especially on this thread), for he's not worth it.
jesusjnr, you think I am a fool, but you are a greater fool than I am. jesusjnr, you're a bigger fool, for getting involved in a matter that doesnt concerns you. It is an unintelligent fool, someone like you, who goes yanking sleeping yanga's leg, looking for yanga's trouble.

jesusjnr:
Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. wink
God bless.
The dreadful burden of having nothing worthwhile and meaningful to do, so made you become a tool and your idle hands, a workshop of the devil. You just couldnt resist the urge to come on here and make a fool of your self with your unintelligent, unwarranted, showing no intelligence nor sensitivity comment

Shepherd00:
Let homosexuality stay in homosexuality thread nah? Me I don tire sef.
"homosexual Satanist OkCornel says the children of Israel didn't need to copy circumcision from the Egyptians. He said that as he maintained his stance that Egypt practiced circumcision before God ordered Israel to do same.

Despite the children of Israel who lived in Egypt for 400 years and who didn't know their God nor his laws, he still believes they didn't follow the culture of the Egyptians. Moses did.

I don't blame the homosexual Satanist
"
- Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by LifestyleTonite: 5:30pm On Jun 18

With this guy obsession of repeatedly trying to introduce and drag homosexuality talk to this thread, I am beginning to wonder what LifestyleTonite saw and notice to be calling him a homosexual. Sure, he is a cold dead hypocrite but could it be, he's a closet, like Ted Haggard was. Does LifestyleTonite know something about him, that everyone else dont seem to know, hmm?

OkCornel:
Of course, I am just surprised that after his elusive rope a dope tactics on that thread, he still wants to ask for a debate.
If you were confident, you would have jumped at the opportunity to shine, but of course, you know you have limits, so cowered, lost the bottle and will, to discuss the truthfulness of the Book(s) of Enoch.

OkCornel:
Also see how he is trying to spin around Elijah's ascension to heaven in a Chariot of fire as "teleportation"
You're less than a learner. You've shown yourself up with your beliefs in bullshits, fantasy and slanderous trash talk.

OkCornel:
Anyways, I'm ready to move on, provided he stays off my mentions.
Practice what you preach. Stop my mentions, stop responding to posts that mentions MuttleLaff and affairs related to MuttleyLaff, and I'll stay off your mention. If you fail to do, I promise to come after you and accordingly

OkCornel:
I mean, the genesis of the whole thing was me posting something from the book of Enoch that agreed with EnthronedbyGod's position on the origin of sorcery and witchcraft...

And here we are right now.
Stick to the genesis, leave out unrelated and irrelevant homosexual topics and whatnot.

tomtween1:
some of us are actually hear to learn please...

please stop derailing the threads with unnecessary arguments.

I believe somethings about God should not be debated rather if someone brings a contrary view on a subject, seek God yourself.

I know that there are important things the OP might have said that I skipped while trying to evade these unnecessary arguments.

please...

enthronedbyGrace please keep up the exposition as the Spirit of God Wills!

thank you
You better call your man to a corner and tell him not to introduce topics that has no relation nor connectivity to whats originally discussed or shared on this thread. Tell him to stop being to stop being malicious, to stop his muckraking and mud-slinging
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 4:13pm On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Mr. man , keep quiet.
Are you at all again alright today? Who you're you telling to keep quiet and using that tone with, hmm? Did someone stir craze, mix into breakfast for you to eat this morning ni? Is that why you're typing out of turn, erhn? Lack of self-control and undisciplined behavior. See me, see "arinfin" trouble...

OkCornel:
This was you asking for evidence where you mentioned you will blacklist me, and you accused me of MAKING UP THAT CLAIM

And after showing you this post from March 2018 where you actually did so, you are now yapping about telling me it was a temporary thing.
https://www.nairaland.com/4386878/discussion-yhwh-jewish-enki-epic/5#65717787
So where was I yapping in that link, or any other link for that matter. You resort to embellishment, ad hominems, throwing mudslings etcetera when you find out, you arent capable of holding your ground.

The post was from March 2018, and I only reverted back to make a mention of the OkCornel ID in Dec 2018. Over 9 months, thats a good run, of keeping to my word. You must have behaved very badly for me to, on my own accord, wanting and deciding to stay clear of you, and that I did for more than 9 months. I wish I had stuck to my guns and better judgement. I regret going back on my word and decision

OkCornel:
Oh, so it's not longer about me making up such claims? You are only trying to be elusive and slippery. Oya, type another long epistle with vocabularies and GIFs

I don't tolerate spin doctors, stay on your lane.
You side track the genuine discussion at hand, avoid it and instead be attacking the opposite side poster's character, bringing up what is not related nor relevant to what's currently discussed

OkCornel:
[s]Now I can see your elusive nature at play here.

Muttley, are you in support of homosexuality? Come out clean here and let everyone see why I called you a homosexual apologist.

Stop this hypocrisy and come out clean[/s].


[s]https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/3#79097453[/s]

[s]This is one of your numerous posts on that thread arguing in favor of homosexuality. If you're not a homosexual apologist, then what else should I call you? A homosexual believer?[/s]

Bring your hide and seek games here and telling me to debate with you for what exactly?

Get off my mentions undecided
You know what to do, if you really want MuttleyLaff stay off your mention. You are prolonging, derailing the thread because you've already being advised.

You have being personally advised by me how you can get me to stay off your mention. EnthronedbyGod, too equally has given you a wise thing to do, but of course, you would choose to ignore both our good and timely advices

OkCornel:
I can see you modified your initial post to include this bit.

Keep your chance to yourself. I have repeatedly mentioned this here, I see absolutely no point in arguing with you, especially after your disgusting evasive tactics on the homosexuality thread
What gave you the impression you were given a chance, if I had said you're a lost cause, hmm?

OkCornel:
And now you're spinning in your teleportation theory on Elijah when indeed the Bible clearly stated he ascended to Heaven, and Malachi clearly stating he will return before the dreadful day of the Lord - Malachi 4 v 5
"5Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the LORD.
6And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers. Otherwise, I will come and strike the land with a curse.”
"
- Malachi 4:5-6

"12But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.
13Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist.
"
- Matthew 17:12

Any believer worth their salt and light knows that John the Baptist, is the Elijah promised in Malachi 4:5. John the Baptist is the one that came and he came in and with the spirit of Elijah. He acted in/with the spirit of Elijah, and so the more the reason he dressed like Elijah and had the ruggedness of Elijah. John the Baptist, is called Elijah, just as Jesus is called the new Adam, plus Jesus calling Mary, His mother and the alleged caught adulteress Woman. Just as Elijah called Israel to repent and return back to God, so John the Baptist called the Jews to repent and reconcile back with God

OkCornel:
I can't waste my time with spin doctors and evasive specialists.
Dont flatter yourself, thinking you are given the time or day
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:20am On Aug 22, 2019
michaelkaroh:
The ancient world was black/brown.
The iburus, hausirians(assyrians), chad(chaldeans), izon (zidonians), edo or idu (edomites) were all black and purely Africa.
Its OK if you don't feel like responding to the question about who else do you believe is black skinned then, aside believing Jesus must have been black skinned, hmm?

I really wished you'd aswer that question, so that then based on your answers, we can take it further, because advances are made by answering questions and then discoveries made from questioning the answers.

Who else according to your understanding is black skinned? Adam? Esau? Moses? King Solomon? The disciples? C'mon now, you're behaving like EnthronedbyGod and doing closely and exactly what you've accused him of. That is evading answering questions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:12am On Aug 22, 2019
OkCornel:
Yeah right, no wonder the Pharisees also accused Jesus of being in league with Belzeebub.

Muttley, you said I called you names. The only names I called you here is homosexual apologist and overgrown kid. If that is not the case, why are you preaching God has nothing against consensual monogamous homosexual relationships? Why are you evasive on that here?
Why are you calling other people names, I mean calling me names, especially if you kick against others calling you names and trying to get the attention of moderators to them calling you names. You acted like a hypocrite, by resorting to calling me names, as you've just, thank God, admitted you have.

OkCornel:
I guess the author of the book of Kings lied that Elijah ascended to Heaven in a chariot of fire. I also guess Malachi was high when he stated Elijah would return at the time of the end in Malachi 4 v 5.

Try harder and spin the scriptures with your teleportation theory
You obviously are out of your depth. Keep taking pride and delight in being an ignoramus.

OkCornel:
Keep quiet there. You earlier stated on this thread I was making up claims of you blacklisting me. You asked for evidence, which I showed you...and you're shifting goalpost again?
I have not shifted any goal post, the goal is still standing in place, wide open. I actually gave a background and proper view of the goal post. I against my better judgement de-blacklisted you after keeping my word for more than 9 months.

OkCornel:
Stay off my mentions. You're a distraction on this thread as EnthronedbyGod rightly pointed out.
You have being personally advised by me how you can get me to stay off your mention. EnthronedbyGod, too equally has given you a wise thing to do, but of course, you would choose to ignore both our good and timely advices

butterfly777:
My dear friends discussing the book of Enoch and the likes. Some of us are definitely reading ur posts and learning from them
If you're truly and really a friend, you'll be honest to admit, the chance to go open a thread to flesh out the fake news accursed Book of Enoch was given, then to mention and invite me to it, all so not to derail or create diversion on the thread.

I hope you're learning also, how not to be a hypocrite, how to listen to meaningful advice on how stop your moniker ID from mentions and how to stop opportunity to derail the thread, hmm?

I also hope, you're learning how to courteous, how not to be calling people names, how not to repeatedly be introducing unrelated and unconnected subjects to the thread

butterfly777:
However, it is neither polite nor Christlike to derail an existing thread with prolonged arguments on weighty subject as that. Kindly shift ur discussion to a fresh thread and we will come and read it. Let this particular thread achieve it's purpose. We cannot shy away from learning on any subject. Knowledge is power.
I am quite happy to do just that. I have from the onset, offered to do just that. You haven't been honest, fair, just and balanced on your observations of what's being going on the thread and nailing the nail on the head on who the instigator and aggressor is in this matter. Is it polite calling other names, is it polite or Christ-like introducing unrelating subject or issues to threads hmm?

I have given advice on how this can be put to rest.

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