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OLAADEGBU:
Was Jesus being rude to Mary when He referred to her as "woman"? Why didn't Jesus show more respect to His mother in John 2:4?

GraGra247:
He wasn't trying to disrespect her. He foreknew that in time to come ignorant people will turn her to a deity. He wanted everyone to know that she's only a woman and nothing more.

The "woman" word usage had nothing to do with guarding against deification or Mary being perceived as a god because as a matter fact, Jesus used the "woman" word for other females on at least on three different ocassions

asuustrike1:
Do you have biblical backing for this assertion of yours?

I dont think he will have any

GraGra247:
Do you have a biblical backing for using your God given intellect to figure out things.

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."
- Genesis 3:6

"Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; in sorrow you shall bring forth children;
and your desire shall be to your husband, and he shall rule over you."
- Genesis 3:16

"And Jesus said to her,
“Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.”"
- John 2:4

"¹⁰When Jesus had lifted himself up, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her,
Woman, where are those your accusers? has no man condemned you?
¹¹She said, No man, Lord.
And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn you: go, and sin no more."
- John 8:10-11

"And when Jesus saw her, He called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity(i.e. meaning, she henceforth is free from that mental condition which deprived her of enjoying or accomplishing what she would like to do"
- Luke 13:12

Jesus' "woman" comment has nothing remotely at all connected to male chauvinism. It has nothing to do with being disrespectful to neither His mother, the woman allegedly caught in the act of adultery or the woman He healed who couldnt lift up herself. People havent cop on to how John 8:11b and Luke 13:12 above was reversing, overturning and negating Genesis 3:16. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know but las las, we will get there and know.

God did not chastise Eve for being a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, but He told her off for openly disregarding His express command not to eat of the fruit, this because man's dominion mandate didnt last more than a day though, as everything crumbled and came crashingly tumbling down, in the last hour, as a result of the woman taking off the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil before God's approval of them eating from it. It is the same "woman" spirit in Eve, from Genesis 3:6 above, manifesting in Jesus' mother Mary, as seen in John 2:4 above, that Jesus was talking to you. Equally it also is the same "woman" spirit in Eve, from Genesis 3:6 above, present in John 8:11b and Luke 13:12 that Jesus is seeing, and so addressing His comments to, with reversing, overturning and negating Genesis 3:16 blip. This is Jesus asking the "woman" why do you want to jump the gun again like in Genesis 3:6. It is Jesus letting the "woman" know, she is loosen from the curse of Genesis 3:16. It is Jesus letting the "woman" know, she is is to rise up and be free from the Genesis 3:16 mental condition which deprived her of enjoying or accomplishing what she would like to do

Jesus wasn't being rude, He was comforting, He was healing, He was restoring the "woman"

NCBMEDIA:
BENNY HINN TRUE CONFESSION -*Repent* "I'm Correcting My Theology" LESSONS FOR NIGERIA PASTORS.

Watch the video :h t tps://www.youtube.com/embed/CpWyr0y3KDg

CodeTemplar:
Good

Babacele:
hmmmm....

"³"I tell you the truth," Jesus said,
"this poor widow has given more than all the rest of them Nigerian who sowed $1,000,000
⁴For they have given a tiny part of their surplus, but she, poor as she is, has given everything she has."
- Luke 21:3-4

Benny Hinn slumps after a Nigerian sowed $1,000,000 into his ministry but doesnt slump when poor widows etcetera give. SMH
Money will turn men into ....
One day, everything will make perfect sense."
- Re: Benny Hinn 'Faints' As A Nigerian Sows $1 Million Into His Ministry (Video) by MuttleyLaff: 9:12pm On Nov 17, 2017

Benny Hinn, slowly but surely is now recanting. The "one day, everything will make perfect sense" prophetic comment, is why and how Benny Hinn can now say that he no longer holds his opinion and/or especially his perverted heretical belief anymore.

CodeTemplar:
Please show where Oyedepo made the comment on the screenshot in the video link. What time duration was that?

"³"I tell you the truth," Jesus said,
"this poor widow has given more than all the rest of them Nigerian who sowed $1,000,000
⁴For they have given a tiny part of their surplus, but she, poor as she is, has given everything she has."
- Luke 21:3-4

Benny Hinn slumps after a Nigerian sowed $1,000,000 into his ministry but doesnt slump when poor widows etcetera give. SMH
Money will turn men into ....
One day, everything will make perfect sense."
- Re: Benny Hinn 'Faints' As A Nigerian Sows $1 Million Into His Ministry (Video) by MuttleyLaff: 9:12pm On Nov 17, 2017

The "one day, everything will make perfect sense" prophetic comment, is why and how Benny Hinn can now say that he no longer holds his opinion and/or especially his perverted heretical belief anymore.

CodeTemplar:
Please show where Oyedepo made the comment on the screenshot in the video link. What time duration was that?

Nwanne, just let jesusjnr have this one because Oyedepo loud and clear did make the comment on the screenshot in the video link as part of his intro. If Benny Hinn, slowly but surely is now recanting, then there is hope for jesusjnr/Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA.

Harshirama:
Notice he said heart and not spirit.

The spirit, basically tunes in to the Holy Spirit channel to receive signals, out of which, it processes or computes whatever it receives from the soul

glowingflame7:
E gba mi ke? Heart and spirit, no be the same?

Fa-fa-fa foul and over the bar. Issa goal, not. The heart and spirit, are not the same. Sorry nwanne. The heart is the workshop where thoughts are conjured up from

Harshirama:
How are the same? Is it the heart that's saved or the spirit?

"Guard your heart above all else,
for it determines the course of your life (i.e. for everything you do flows from it)"
- Proverbs 4:23

"The good man brings good things out of the good treasure of his heart,
and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil treasure of his heart.
For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks"
- Luke 6:45

It is the Soul that is saved. The heart is used by the Soul and it is definitely not the spirit

Proverbs 4:23 and Luke 6:45 above, informs us that, it's out of the abundance of the heart first, then processed in the brain or mind, before the mouth speaks. All evil intents comes forth out of the heart, housed in the human Body

What is man?
Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul
Man is made up of Body, Soul (i.e. uses the heart as an outlet) and Spirit. Fyi, the Soul has the Body and Spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a Soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up, in a human being body suit

Now moving further on, the Spirit and Soul have different faculties, where the faculties of the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition, while the faculties of the Soul comprises of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions and the Body has 5 faculties of senses, which are, sight, as in to see via the eyes, hearing, as in hear via the ears, touch, as in, feel via applicable part of the body, smell, as in, perceive via the nose and last but not the least, taste, as in, sense with the mouth.

Mind you, the Soul, biblically speaking, is the most important existence of Man and that is why the battle is and always has been about and over the Soul. All attacks, are ultimately targeted at and for the Soul. Now, getting started proper, the Soul is the first medium key component of Man created by God and Man is tickled and accessed through this same Soul, by way of the Body and Spirit. The Soul, as a matter of fact, in effective, is the mediator between the Body and Spirit. The Soul uses the heart, as a point from which issues are sent out or distributed from.

This is how everything works, the different faculties in the Soul waits, to pick up signals coming from the relevant and/or applicable faculties in the Body and the Spirit. This crucial bit of information here, is very important to grasp, and it is that, the Soul receives from the Body and deposits into the Spirit. Whatever the Body reads or sees via the eyes, hears via the ears, feels via applicable part of the body, smells via the nose and talks or tastes via the mouth is picked up by the Soul and deposited into the Spirit. The Spirit then, upon receiving these things from the Soul, has to deal with or process what the Soul has deposited into the Spirit's laps.

Fya, please note, anywhere in the post you see "Spirit", unless it is stated otherwise, take it, to mean, as in, spirit-man, and not the Holy Spirit or Spirit of God. Thank you

Now, this here, is why regulation is very important. It is why we ought to control and oversee what the Soul is picking up from or what it is picking up with the senses. If you have to by all means, eat the chicken or fish, then its necessary to know when and how to spit out the bones, or if it's straw to eat, then know when and how to spit out the sticks, alternatively, if it's liquor to drink, and you cant hold it down so you don't throw it up, then know how or when to stay away from the liquor. Caveat emptor clause #1 done.

The devil has no power over anyone, except if such person, is in the dark, dabbling in the dark or is ignorant, so I'll advise the curious to distance themselves from dabbling into the dark, to save themselves from misery, but if hellbent on dining with the devil, then make sure you've got a long spoon to eat with. Caveat emptor clause #2 done.

Resuming and back on track, now, if the Soul picks up an interaction, info, instruction, message, communication, issue etcetera from the Body, it cant interpret, then the deposit the Soul received from the Body and put into the Spirit will be unfruitful then (i.e. remember the red emboldened above hmm?) The thing here, is that, the Spirit, by the God design, knows what it expects from the Soul for positive fruition to be possible but the Soul has received from the Body something it doesnt via the Mind or Intellect understand or know about. Wahala don begin to gas be dat ooo. Now, just as in the physical, when the stomach growls, making noises for food, when nourishing is long overdue, so it is spiritually, the Spirit, intercedes for us through wordless and noiseless groans for substances necessary for growth, health and good condition

The Soul, as a conduit, a vent hole determines what the Spirit receives, but if the Soul is transferring the wrong expectations (e.g. like not praying right, not asking right, not the will of God etctera) then the Spirit, does the wordless groans. It does this because the spirit-man knows what should be prayed for, so it becomes restless with wordless groans, when the expectation(s) is not forthcoming or not in sight. The Spirit, as in, the spirit-man, is like saying: Hey Mr Soul, where are the goods I am expecting, please dont feed me with trash, junk and all these ungodly razzmatazz stuffs. So since the Spirit, is capable of asking and telling the Soul what it needs, the Soul just has to return back to the Body to honour the request and be asking the Body for correct or "kosher" stuff and not the crap its received

Now, if it is one of those classic cases of the Spirit, is willing BUT the Body is weak, then the Body many times will REFUSE the Soul the request of the Spirit, and here we have a typical case of struggle or power tussle going on in the Soul involving the Body and the Spirit
The Spirit , knows what it needs the Soul giving it from the Body (i.e. the Spirit tells the Soul what to do, expecting the Soul to relay this information request to the Body) but the Body, many times, is not ready or prepared to act in accordance with the wish or command of the Spirit, by giving or offering it to the Soul for the Spirit.

There is a rule, that the Spirit, cannot give to the Body righteous things it didnt receives from the Soul. Hmm, I perceive someone's going to trip at this point, so OK, here is the clarification to ward off confusion:
The Soul passes on all righteous things it receives from the Body, if fruitful and meaningful when the Spirit, receives it, the Spirit, will then conceive the ''fruit'' and return it back to the Body via the Soul. Call it payback, if you like.

So, in effect, the Soul feeds the Spirit, and the Soul receives from the Spirit, to feed the Body. This is the reason, why if your mind (i.e. Soul) doesnt understand something OR anything, it would be unable to interpret, to then, successfully feed the Spirit or the Body

"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health,
even as thy soul prospereth"
- 3 John 1:2

As seen in 3 John 1:2 above, the Soul (i.e. the Mind (i.e. conscious and sub conscious) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions) tops it all. Of course, the ability of the Soul to prosper or be held back to any degree, is dependent on the Spirit, getting the right detail, at which to relay back to the Body via the Soul at a latter date, future or time as and when needed.

This is another God design, quest for quality GIGO and QIQO system set-up. GIGO is an ancroymn for "Garbage in, Garbage out" and QIQO is an ancroymn for "Quality in, Quality out" If the Soul sends in shiit to the Spirit, you get shiit back from the Spirit. It just implies that bad input by the Soul will result in bad output returned back from the Spirit to the Soul. Ultimately too the Body, at the receiving end of it all, gets the flawed and nonsense input data from the Soul, obtained from nonsense output garbage obtained from the Spirit that originally and in first place was sent in from the Soul coming from one or more of the Body's faculties (e.g. eyes, ears, touch, mouth, smell)

I think this post has gotten too long and might get flagged up as being just that, so I'll pause here, and maybe, God willing, continue later if clarification is required

elated177:
Acts 9:7-8, 22:9 & 26:14.
Paul never said anything about seeing the face of the Messiah. He saw a bright light and heard a voice.

"... who is influencing you, but do know you are of the spirit of King Ahab, a covetous increasingly evil king in Israel's history, who abused his responsibility and led God’s people right into idolatry, leading others into idolatory, as in for example, like you and Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA breaking the first and second commandment of God, as it is only a delusional person, like yourself, Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA and bunch of gullible others, who dont know they are delusional, to the extent of believing they have seen the face of Jesus Christ, to the extent of even, putting an image, physical feature and/or picture to Jesus' face.

From 1st and 2nd part of the Ten Commandments, it says:
1/ You shall not have no other gods before me (i.e. Exodus 20:3)
2/ ⁴You shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
⁵Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; (i.e. Exodus 20:4-5)

God emphatically, with the 1st and 2nd commandment, is saying, not to have a false knowledge of Him. God is particular about people not making a false representation of Him, God. God doesnt want human beings to advance a perverted intelligence about Him, God or what the Bible does not say how God is and how God looks like. In fact, both the 1st and 2nd commandment is emphasising not to have and not to paint a false picture about God and even not to conjure up a physical look appearance of God, whether on earth or in heaven etcetera.

The disciple whom Jesus love, a proper and genuine Apostle, Apostle John, unlike the fake arse self-styled Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA, that he addresses himself as, didnt see Jesus' face, all Apostle John said he saw, was that Jesus' face was radiating with light, which makes very good sense, when you begin to think of all this, but your jesusjnr/Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA and the bunch of gullible others carnal minds, as in, you, your alter-ego jesusjnr and lackeys' carnal minds dont compute this nor comprehend any of it.

Prophet Ezekiel, in Ezekiel 3:23, saw the glory of God but not God’s face. The Jesus, the disciple whom Jesus love, a proper and genuine Apostle, Apostle John, when he saw Jesus, the Jesus he saw did not in any way look like the Jesus the Apostle John, knew when He was on earth. Jesus did not look anything like nor close to the Jesus, Apostle John wined and with for almost three and a half years, but here we are, having self-styled Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA/jesusjnr, saying he vividly saw Jesus' face and having the cheek and bad manners to be describing Jesus' "facial features" and obviously having a fake knowledge from the pit of hell for making a false misrepresentation, painting a wrong picture and misleading himself and others along, when the Apostle John said Jesus' face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance, note that Apostle John never described any sort of physical face feature, skintone etcetera, except for the metaphorical mention of hair being white like white wool and like snow, eyes were like a flame of fire and feet being burnished bronze

Except you repent, you suddenly will be swiftly and justly judged by God."
- Religion / Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:17am On Sep 01

"jesusjnr/Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA,
1/ Did you ever read that Paul painted a picture of God, hmm?
2/ Did you ever read that Paul described the facial features of God, hmm?
3/ Did you read that Paul in his experience on the way to Damascus ever described Jesus' facial feature, hmm?
4/ Have you ever read anywhere of Paul saying he saw the face of God hmm?
5/ When Paul had a vision of Jesus, did you read that he saw Jesus' facial feature, erhn.
6/ Fear God ooo with this idolatory you're romantising with.
Truth be told I just smh for you"
- Re: Inspiring Story Of Akiane Kramarik That Converted Her Atheist Parents To Christ by MuttleyLaff: 7:06am On Sep 05

Michellekabod2:
If I insult now shadẹyinka will say it's unladylike to insult.

Muttleylaff I hope you will not caution me if I explode

Maybe he is looking for a dealer. Though, you have in this case my unreserved thumbs up to insult since you werent the aggression instigator, but of course you and I know that when a dog bites a woman that is not news, but when Michellekabod2 a woman bites a dog that is news and makes front page.

CaveAdullam:
ok

Arent you meant to be concentrating on lectures than responding to mentions on your phone hmm? Tsk, tsk tsk.

CaveAdullam:
At least you can't deny that the information I shared are outside the Bible.

Have a nice day muttleylaff.

This is beside the point. Nobody asked you about any poxy information, especially when you never in the first instance addressed the question originally asked by Ginalex. You completely just ignored the question and went on your own merry go round errand, talking about what no one asked you about and no one told you they are interested to know about.

I am pleased to know, you, though forced, confirmed that the Lord Jesus Christ didn't specifically mentioned demon names and ranks. It is good to know that none of any of the apostles and disciples neither too specifically mentioned demon names and ranks. Guess they had better things to do

CaveAdullam:
OK I Don hear you.

The truth is left for anyone to examine.

Have a nice day.

Thanks.

God bless.

Bye.

Not truth diluted, not truth omitted, as in, not first telling or admitting that the Lord Jesus Christ didn't specifically mentioned demon names and ranks. It wasnt until after I laid into you that you practically was forced to admit that the Lord Jesus Christ didn't specifically mentioned demon names and ranks

CaveAdullam:
Lol.......Kikikikikikikiki. u nor go kill me with laff o oga.

Glad to know you had a good laugh at yourself

CaveAdullam:
So you are looking for where Jesus specifically mentioned demons and their ranks but you have been gladly preaching homosexuality everywhere you go as if Jesus even branch that side at all.

You just couldnt help not getting sucked into stepping into the gutter and bringing up unrelated mentions into this conversation erhn?

CaveAdullam:
Oga calm down!! Anyway that's not our topic of discussion

It's you who needs to reduce your sugar intake,making you high. Glad you realise its not our topic of discussion

CaveAdullam:
The ranks and names I mentioned, are they in the Bible based on your Bible reading and understanding?

Stick to the program, stick to the scope and remit of the question. The question focused on Jesus, period.

CaveAdullam:
Where in the Bible are we advice to go to school and learn science or improve our education? Don't Christians have the Spirit of Wisdom to teach them or guide them in all things?

Jesus was what the question Ginalex asked about, not interested in your "aronda" questions

CaveAdullam:
The Lord Jesus Christ didn't specifically mentioned demon names and ranks but shed light on the topic and it is my duty to investigate it, not to start worshipping them but know how to go about them during times of deliverance and also as a source of testimony and hope to others.

That wasnt hard after all, was it. Thank you. I dont think any of the apostles and disciples did either too.

CaveAdullam:
No scripture is of its own interpretation, scripture must explain scripture muttleylaff. If we must insist to follow only the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John what about His revelations and words in other books of the bible? Should we do away with them?

Nobody asked you to follow anything, but only to give information specifically asked

CaveAdullam:
Please let's call a spade a spade oga.

Whether you guys accept it or not, truth is truth and false is false, your opinion does not change anything but gives you a proper understanding of a better foundation on which to stand.
Remember I don't like wasting my phone ink over arguments.
Thanks.

God bless.

Just pointing out the truth that your first response wasnt not truthful. Why say something that is not completely true, just in order to achieve an aim. Why couldnt you in the first place, had said to Ginalex's question, that the Lord Jesus Christ didn't specifically mentioned demon names and ranks. I guess it was convenient for you to bury that information and gainful for you to advance something completely different to the actual question asked, erhn? Wasting phone ink on and over unsolicited info, smh. Learn and have the self-discipline to first answer questions before going on a whim and caprices

CaveAdullam:
Lol.......Kikikikikikikiki. u nor go kill me with laff o oga.

Glad to know you had a good laugh at yourself

CaveAdullam:
So you are looking for where Jesus specifically mentioned demons and their ranks but you have been gladly preaching homosexuality everywhere you go as if Jesus even branch that side at all.

You just couldnt help not getting sucked into stepping into the gutter and bringing up unrelated mentions into this conversation erhn?

CaveAdullam:
Oga calm down!! Anyway that's not our topic of discussion

It's you who needs to reduce your sugar intake,making you high. Glad you realise its not our topic of discussion

CaveAdullam:
The ranks and names I mentioned, are they in the Bible based on your Bible reading and understanding?

Stick to the program, stick to the scope and remit of the question. The question focused on Jesus, period.

CaveAdullam:
Where in the Bible are we advice to go to school and learn science or improve our education? Don't Christians have the Spirit of Wisdom to teach them or guide them in all things?

Jesus was what the question Ginalex asked about, not interested in your "aronda" questions

CaveAdullam:
The Lord Jesus Christ didn't specifically mentioned demon names and ranks but shed light on the topic and it is my duty to investigate it, not to start worshipping them but know how to go about them during times of deliverance and also as a source of testimony and hope to others.

CaveAdullam:
No scripture is of its own interpretation, scripture must explain scripture muttleylaff. If we must insist to follow only the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John what about His revelations and words in other books of the bible? Should we do away with them?

Nobody asked you to follow anything, but only to give information specifically asked

CaveAdullam:
Please let's call a spade a spade oga.

Whether you guys accept it or not, truth is truth and false is false, your opinion does not change anything but gives you a proper understanding of a better foundation on which to stand.
Remember I don't like wasting my phone ink over arguments.
Thanks.

God bless.

Just pointing out the truth that your first response wasnt not truthful. Why say something that is not completely true, just in order to achieve an aim. Why couldnt you in the first place, had said to Ginalex's question, that the Lord Jesus Christ didn't specifically mentioned demon names and ranks. I guess it was convenient for you to bury that information and gainful for you to advance something completely different to the actual question asked, erhn? Wasting phone ink on and over unsolicited info, smh.

CaveAdullam:
The Lord Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. He is the one in the Old Testament, New Testament and even in this Era. Is the Bible no longer our focus point? Are all scriptures not given by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit?

Thanks.

God bless

Nwanne, the question the lady asked was specifically about Jesus and what demon names and ranks did He mention nah. Ginalex never said anything about the Bible being a focus point, nor whether or not the scripture are given by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but you derived pleasure in giving unsolicited information when all Ginalex was just interested in is, if at all, Jesus mentioned or not, the rank and file of demons. Stick to the program. Biko. Jor.

"Well the Bishop is not perfect (no one is actually)."
- Religion / Re: African Church Leaders Like David Oyedepo Are Spiritually Bankrupt. by Acidosis(m): 7:16am On Sep 05

"Haven't you put a protective fence around him, his home, and everything he has?
(i.e. the protective fence/hedge, until when it was temporarily removed, made the blessings of Job secure)
You have blessed everything he does. His cattle have spread out over the land.
- Job 1:10

Acidosis, well said and an overall mature post you have there."
- Religion / Re: African Church Leaders Like David Oyedepo Are Spiritually Bankrupt. by MuttleyLaff: 8:52pm On Sep 05

Ginalex:
What names and ranks did Jesus mention again?

CaveAdullam:
The ranks are the texts you bolded. For more clarification they include;
1. Demons that go by fasting and prayer only.

2. Demons that go by just simple command.

3. Demons that go and bring seven other demons.

4. Demons that forms legion in their host.

5. Demons that tried to announce you before your time.

6. Principalities and powers.

7. Rulers of darkness.

8. Spiritual wickedness. etc.


Some names in the Bible include;
1. Behemoth.

2. Leviathan.

3. Dagon.

4. Molech.

5. Chemosh.

6. Baal. etc.

Thanks.

God bless.

Hmm, are you sure, you actually did answer the lady's question? Why have you let Satan fill your heart?

Kenneth4u205:
Following your write up, it align with the word of God. I'm a deliverance minister. Will like to correct a minor mistake you made. You said that christian can not be possessed by demons. That's wrong. Demons doesn't waste their time possessing sinners because the don't need demons to continue spinning. Demons are more interested bin possessing Christians today, since no man is perfect. Christians fall into sin that gives this demons the legal right to come in and possess. That's why it's God to repent immediately each time we fall into sin

Believers fall into sin everyday, and thanks to God for Hebrews 4:16, but it doesnt mean demons go in and possess every believer for falling into sin. C'mon, get real now. Of course, demons are opportunists, they will take advantage of opportunities as and when they arise, regardless of whether it was planned or not. If the house door or windows are left open, of course thieves will enter and make away with whatever valuables are inside. They however will not hang about to possess the house, especially if someone is in, they will just quickly thief and leave

Temptation, influences etcetera arent necessarily symptoms or sign of demon or Satan possession. Jesus was tempted but wasnt Satan possessed. Satan tried to influence Jesus, but Jesus wasnt Satan possessed

butterfly777:
Sir, Christians can't be possessed. They can only be oppressed, and obsessed. All these are different ways of being tormented and deliverance is still necessary. It can be personal deliverance or ministered.

Somebody can be possessed before getting born again. Such people find it difficult to get saved, but they can if the spirit is bound.

Possession means possession of the person's spirit and once you are saved, it is the Holy Spirit that possesses the person's spirit. No demon can't take it.

Before a Christian can be possessed again, he would have denied Christ.

Believers cant be possessed because they have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. What do we mean by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit? It means, unlike in Old Testament days where the Spirit of God, if and when necessary, comes and goes, the situation now has changed, because God, with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, now takes up permanent residence in the body of every believer in Jesus Christ. The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is an automatically assigned blessing instantly made available at moment of opening up to God and being receptive about things of God.

Temptation, negative influences, temporary madness, foolishness, ignorance, lack of awareness of fact, truth or knowledge etcetera are not necessarily symptoms of demon or Satan possession

Harshirama:
Even if we assume Peter was possessed, he didn't have the holy spirit then. Btw, he was only influenced, Judas was the one possessed.

"Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices."
- 2 Corinthians 2:11

"Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control."
- 1 Corinthians 7:5

"But when I couldn't wait any longer, I sent [Timothy] to find out about your faith. I wanted to see whether the tempter had in some way tempted you, making our work meaningless"
- 1 Thessalonians 3:5

Peter was not possessed, so no need to assume he was, ah you've actually said it sef, yes, Peter was influenced and not possessed as Judas was, whom the bible said Satan entered into.

OK, lets for the benefit of others reading, break this Peter thing down. When believers succumb to the flesh, we operate out of tune with the Spirit, then we inadvertently are helping along the development of the works and progress of Satan

Though Peter was not possessed by Satan, he no doubt, unknowingly, as because the flesh is weak, was promoting an intent and desire of Satan. It is possible that without being possessed, believers, just as like with Peter, because of ignorance, lack of knowlege etcetera
are capable of being or likely to be tempted, influenced etcetera in negative ways when we behave, speak or say things in the flesh, as in, not in the Spirit, and so contrary to the will and word of God. Any of these, are especially done without us even being aware they are done. Peter wasnt aware, by his utterance, he was siding with Satan, however Ananias in Acts 5:3 below, was aware of his and his wife's actions

Eve wasnt possessed by Satan before she ate from the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil (i.e. tkoge), and Peter was not possessed by Satan when he blurted, by saying something that he shouldn't have said. So what's the point here, the point is, believers dont necessarily need to be possessed before they are tempted by Satan. Look at 1 Corinthians 7:5 above, those are married believers, who arent Satan possessed, but are being advised on what to do, so that Satan wouldnt be able to tempt them. Even 2 Corinthians 2:11 and 1 Thessalonians 3:5 above, confirms that believers, without at all being Satan possessed, can be taken advantaged off and can get tempted by Satan

glowingflame7:
Satan took over Peter's will, making his will contrary to the will of the Lord. He also took possession of Peter's consciousness, he didn't even know until Jesus pointed it out. If a Christian doesn't put on the Lord Jesus, the flesh or satan may take over for a while.
Also a naive, prayerless and ignorant Christian can be oppressed, manipulated and defeated by the devil. I think this what the others are saying about being possessed. They are not talking about going to witchcraft meeting in the night or being tied like legion.

Satan, on that occassion, never took over Peter's will nor was Peter possessed by Satan. What happened was that Peter had full capacity of his will, but unwittingly by that his infamous and ignorantly speaking out of turn moment, was promoting, encouraging, fostering the intent and plans of Satan. Unlike, Peter, Judas was of the devil, so it was easy for Satan to enter Judas and take possession of him then put into his heart to betray Jesus

glowingflame7:
What is your definition of possession?

""Ananias," said Peter, "why has Satan taken possession of your heart, (i.e. fill to individual capacity) that you should try to deceive the Holy Spirit and dishonestly keep back part of the price paid you for this land?"
- Acts 5:3

Acidosis:
Well the Bishop is not perfect (no one is actually).
The summary of the entire book of Job is that bad things happen to good people and, sometimes, life's circumstances can be unrelated to our actions. Let's not forget the core message in his story - temptation. We all face this everyday and temptations, by my understanding, is God's way of testing our faith, whether we tithe or not.

God permits the devil to tempt believers. In the case of Job, the de.vil used what we may call a weakness against him. The devil won't tempt you in your area of strength. He did same to Jesus, offered Him food knowing very well he had just concluded a 40-day fasting and prayers.

More so, Job was a radical giver and a wealthy man, hence, what happened to him is totally independent of tithe or giving. Givers don't lack (the widow in Zarephath is an example) but giving or tithing is not a guarantee that temptations won't come your way.

titigenius:
Wow! well, thank God for knowledge

"Haven't you put a protective fence around him, his home, and everything he has?
(i.e. the protective fence/hedge, until when it was temporarily removed, made the blessings of Job secure)
You have blessed everything he does. His cattle have spread out over the land."
- Job 1:10

Acidosis, well said and an overall mature post you have there.

jesusjnr:
That should also give an idea of the real spirit behind my attackers at the time, as they seemed to be rejoicing at the same time with the Nairaland Satanists.

To be continued.

No human being isnt with some delusion of some sort and/or kind but the degree of delusion displayed here is no longer marginal.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Maybe they think Paul had exclusive rights to seeing Jesus and that barring him no one else has had an encounter with Jesus after His ascension.

So while Paul's vision of Jesus was authentic and from heaven and dare not be questioned, that of everyone else Is fake, demonic and from the pit of hell. Lol!

Truth be told, these same ones would have debunked Paul testimony of his encounter with Jesus had they been there at the time, since he was a former persecutors of the Jews.

But as Jesus said, "wisdom is justified of her children".

jesusjnr/Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA, did you ever read that Paul painted a picture of God, hmm? Did you ever read that Paul described the facial features of God, hmm? Did you read that Paul in his experience on the way to Damascus ever described Jesus' facial features, hmm? Have you ever read anywhere of Paul saying he saw the face of God, hmm? When Paul had a vision of Jesus, did you read that he saw Jesus' facial feature, erhn. Fear God ooo with this idolatory you're romantising with. Truth be told I just smh for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ULEHQ7v9I4
Akiane Kramarik, A False Prophet, Deception Exposed!!!
In this video we will review what Akiane Kramarik believes and supports. She is not Christian and is promoting a false gospel in order to publicize herself and her art.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0RrbEo4MV8
Akiane Kramarik exposed

"... who is influencing you, but do know you are of the spirit of King Ahab, a covetous increasingly evil king in Israel's history, who abused his responsibility and led God’s people right into idolatry, leading others into idolatory, as in for example, like you and Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA breaking the first and second commandment of God, as it is only a delusional person, like yourself, Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA and bunch of gullible others, who dont know they are delusional, to the extent of believing they have seen the face of Jesus Christ, to the extent of even, putting an image, physical feature and/or picture to Jesus' face.

From 1st and 2nd part of the Ten Commandments, it says:
1/ You shall not have no other gods before me (i.e. Exodus 20:3)
2/ 4You shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; (i.e. Exodus 20:4-5)

God emphatically, with the 1st and 2nd commandment, is saying, not to have a false knowledge of Him. God is particular about people not making a false representation of Him, God. God doesnt want human beings to advance a perverted intelligence about Him, God or what the Bible does not say how God is and how God looks like. In fact, both the 1st and 2nd commandment is emphasising not to have and not to paint a false picture about God and even not to conjure up a physical look appearance of God, whether on earth or in heaven etcetera.

The disciple whom Jesus love, a proper and genuine Apostle, Apostle John, unlike the fake arse self-styled Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA, that he addresses himself as, didnt see Jesus' face, all Apostle John said he saw, was that Jesus' face was radiating with light, which makes very good sense, when you begin to think of all this, but your jesusjnr/Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA and the bunch of gullible others carnal minds, as in, you, your alter-ego jesusjnr and lackeys' carnal minds dont compute this nor comprehend any of it.

Prophet Ezekiel, in Ezekiel 3:23, saw the glory of God but not God’s face. The Jesus, the disciple whom Jesus love, a proper and genuine Apostle, Apostle John, when he saw Jesus, the Jesus he saw did not in any way look like the Jesus the Apostle John, knew when He was on earth. Jesus did not look anything like nor close to the Jesus, Apostle John wined and with for almost three and a half years, but here we are, having self-styled Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA/jesusjnr, saying he vividly saw Jesus' face and having the cheek and bad manners to be describing Jesus' "facial features" and obviously having a fake knowledge from the pit of hell for making a false misrepresentation, painting a wrong picture and misleading himself and others along, when the Apostle John said Jesus' face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance, note that Apostle John never described any sort of physical face feature, skintone etcetera, except for the metaphorical mention of hair being white like white wool and like snow, eyes were like a flame of fire and feet being burnished bronze

Except you repent, you suddenly will be swiftly and justly judged by God."
- Religion / Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:17am On Sep 01

Akiane Kramarik became known as a child prodigy artist & "indigo child." Indigo children, by the way, are a pseudoscientific New Age concept popularised by parapsychologist, aura reader and psychic Nancy Ann Tappe.

The "indigo child" concept incidentally, has further been developed by Lee Carroll, an American channeller and Jan Tober, a metaphysician

The kid who paints God, hmmm. Not everything that looks precious or true, turns out to be so, especially so, if it's actually just a velvet painting of Barry Manilow

delishpot:
Lies. Buhari has completely stopped corruption in Nigeria.
He promised us that corruption would stop as soon as he becomes the president and it has stopped.
Anyone that says otherwise is an enemy of Nigeria. No more bBoko haram, not a single corrupt govt official in Nigeria, everything is perfect in naija. The only reason why 1 dollar is not equal to 1 naira is because of GEJ and PDP. Inshort feel free to blame the future generation for anything happening that you don't like. Just don't say its Bubu's era it happened. Bubu has made naija paradise on earth and the envy of the world. Why the hell do you think nobody likes Nigerians? It's cos Bubu has made us the envy of the world. Its pure jealousy. Buhari till the end! Sai Baba!

"There is nothing that comes from above, that the earth cannot take. All these tactics, that there are hidden games, you dont know about and cant fight, are successfully being used to emasculate and undermine the aspirations of any with visions of seeing or working for, a better Nigeria, on its feet and at full potential

... the journey of a thousand miles began with the first step of educating all the people in Nigeria who are entitled to vote in the election and/or sensitising PVC carrying voters that they have no business of choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Youths can make can make a difference of the outcome of the 2019 February 16th election because more than 60% of Nigeria's population are aged below 25. With political fortitude and if no compromises, the right candidate with clear cut and spelled out digital ideas of how to transform the the country, alleviate poverty, turn the country into a construction site thereby give rise to mass employment, tackle the epileptic power supply problem with 21st century innovative solution etcetera will win but then, if people prefer another 4 years of between the devil and the deep blue sea, well, what more I can say than just, as you lay your bed ...

Who has bewitched us Nigeria?
The elitists and the corruptible biased media outlets who are all indifferent to the hardship, throngs of sufferring, woes and the unfortunate conditions of the common man, have seared their conscience and sold the country and its citizenry down the river.

Nigeria is at a crossroads, at an opportunity watershed moment, where and when we can take our destiny into our own hands, but the youths that ought to know better, the youths that should see visions, arent seeing nada, but, for crumbs on the table and floor, they have camped tent with the elitists and corruptible elements shafting the whole nation. They are pitching tents with those who once they get in power again, will turn blind eyes to acts of stealing the country blind"
- Politics / Re: Ogboru The APC Governorship Candidate Buhari Called 'APC Presidential Candidate' by MuttleyLaff: 7:17am On Jan 18

As you lay your bed, lie in it. I didnt finish my sentence in the above red inverted commas with the "lie in it" last three words before, I have now. Enjoy the change. Mtcheew.

Check my Nairaland Profile portal. Free Sowore now!

OLAADEGBU:
Yes.

https://i2.wp.com/redeeminggod.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/log-in-eye.jpg
Good on ya.
OLAADEGBU, just don't forget to mind the long and big "plank of pride" in your eye before the little "speck" in mine. OK?
Isnt it weird and amazing that sometimes when you remove the log from your own eyes, you will see that the other person had no speck there after all the suspicions.

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that you are now above the level of those who can be cautioned?

You mean you were cautioning me about spiritual pride abi? Isnt that it?

OLAADEGBU:
See the answer in the OP, it needs no further explanation. No offense.

What's my own. Do as you like, na you get your fingers

OLAADEGBU:
Beware of spiritual pride.

Explain all you mean by this comment please because I am not understanding

Na dem, Na dem

OLAADEGBU:
Where and when did God 'emphatically talks' against incest and bestiality?

"⁶Never have sexual intercourse with anyone related to you by blood I am the LORD.
⁷Never have sexual intercourse with your mother. She is your own mother. Never have sexual intercourse with her.
⁸Never have sexual intercourse with your stepmother. She is related to you through your father.
⁹Never have sexual intercourse with your stepsister, whether she is your father's daughter or your mother's daughter. It makes no difference whether or not she was born in your house.
¹⁰Never have sexual intercourse with your granddaughter, whether she is your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter, because she is related to you.
¹¹Never have sexual intercourse with a daughter of your father and his wife. She is your own sister.
¹²Never have sexual intercourse with your father's sister. She is your paternal aunt.
¹³Never have sexual intercourse with your mother's sister. She is your maternal aunt.
¹⁴Never have sexual intercourse with the wife of your father's brother. She, too, is your aunt.
¹⁵Never have sexual intercourse with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife. Never have sexual intercourse with her.
¹⁶Never have sexual intercourse with your sister-in-law. She is your brother's wife.
¹⁷Never have sexual intercourse with a woman and her daughter or a woman and her granddaughter. They are related. Doing this is perverted.
¹⁸While your wife is living, never marry her sister as a rival wife and have sexual intercourse with her."
- Leviticus 18:6-18

OLAADEGBU:
Where and when did God 'emphatically talks' against incest and bestiality?

"You are not to have sexual intercourse with any animal, defiling yourself with it; a woman is not to present herself to an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion.""
- Leviticus 18:23

OLAADEGBU:
What then would stop you from having sex with your daughter (if you have one) if she consents?

What the heck kind of question is that, hmm? What kind of person asks a question like this? Asking such a pervese question like this, sure does reveal the personality and the inner workings of the questioner's mind.

Fyi, the answer to your perverted question is, asides instructive Leviticus 18:6, the understanding it is a confusing and/or perverse act stops me.

OLAADEGBU:
What stops you from bestiality if your domesticated dog is on the heat and in the mood for you to hump it?

Smh. Aside instructive Leviticus 18:23, self-discipline, self-control, self-regard and the understanding that this is a confusing and/or perverse act stops me, the fact is, any domesticated dog is not in any position to give a human informed consent to sex

OLAADEGBU:
Where does the scripture forbid that?

"For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish"
- 1 Corinthians 15:39

Leviticus 18:23 earlier above given, is where the scripture forbids that. Now, as noted from 1 Corinthians 15:39 above about the difference in flesh, then having sexual intercorse or carnal knowledge with animals, means such person is consumed with desire for different flesh. Some even go beyond animals, by lusting for strange flesh, something further and more different

OLAADEGBU:
What is the basis of that superior, stronger and higher law?

It helps you with your life as regards, forming normative rules of conduct, as in, moral standards that regulate right and wrong conduct

OLAADEGBU:
Does this law demand lesser requirements from you than the one we are talking about on this thread?

"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"
- John 13:34

"In the same way, when working with Gentiles, I live like a Gentile, outside the Jewish Law, in order to win Gentiles.
This does not mean that I don't obey God's law; I am really under Christ's law"
- 1 Corinthians 9:21

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
- Galatians 5:14

OLAADEGBU, please respond to the following three easy, simple, straightforward and direct questions:
1/ Please tell, what then is/are the law(s), you're talking about on this thread?
2/ What to your understanding, originally, contextually, truthfully to the fullest degree and really all about, is/are the law(s) you hopefully on the thread, are n point of fact(s) deliberating?
3/ The law by virtue of being superior, stronger and higher does not demand any lesser requirement. Does the law of aerodynamics, in face of the law of gravity, demand lesser requirements from you?

budaatum:
"For the bread of God is He which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world…" John 6:33

"Yeshua said to them,
“I AM THE LIVING GOD, The Bread of Life;
whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever trusts in me shall never thirst.”"
- John 6:35

jesusjnr:
Tares planted the devil inside the church.

Satan has a church for everyone. The church is full of tares and it always will have room for biggest among, more

CodeTemplar:
You already said you are not a servant of your father in another thread.
And we understand that you are a servant of who you choose to obey. So no need talking about obedience to me. You are not qualified for that.

jesusjnr:
Was Jesus a servant or a Son of His Father, despite that He served and obeyed Him?
If not, then I am not a servant of my Father despite that I served Him.
Go and read the parable of the prodigal son to get the difference between a son and a servant.

"The LORD says, "Here is my servant, whom I strengthen--the one I have chosen, with whom I am pleased. I have filled him with my Spirit, and he will bring justice to every nation."
- Isaiah 42:1

"Instead of this, of His own free will He gave up all He had, and took the nature of a servant. He became like a human being and appeared in human likeness"
- Philippians 2:7

"‘Now listen, Joshua the high priest, you and your friends who are sitting in front of you—indeed they are men who are a symbol, for behold, I am going to bring in My servant the Branch"
- Zechariah 3:8

"When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. (i.e. as a result of the anguish of His soul)
And because of His experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for He will bear all their sins."
- Isaiah 53:11

"Jesus told them,
"My food is to do what the one who sent me wants me to do and to finish the work he has given me."
- John 4:34

"And the boy Samuel continued to grow in stature and in favor with the LORD and with people.
(i.e. meaning, as Samuel grew older, the LORD was pleased with him, and so were the people)"
- 1 Samuel 2:26

"And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men
(i.e. meaning, as Jesus became wise, and He grew strong. God was pleased with him and so were the people)"
- Luke 2:52