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Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 2:46pm On Jun 27, 2019
Shepherd00:
lolzzzzz. MuttleyLaff. Any man who put his penis in the anus of another man is what I'm talking abt, not where and how they did it.
OK, how about any man who puts a Love Machine in the anus of another man? Oh, you have a take on that too, haven't you Shepherd00?
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
Shepherd00:
Lolzzzzz. This guy like plenty words eh. Did you or did you not admit that you and Rev. M Turner posted the same things becos you think alike?
We both share the same school of thought, this is why and how, we both have the same thing to write and say. This is the essence of me, saying "great minds think alike". Too much of a good strong coffee is affecting you. Shepherd00, please post here what is the same Rev. Turner and I wrote. If you fail doing this, then please shut the fringing up. Ah-ha kilode?.
cc EmperorHarry
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
Shepherd00:
That's why I said you shd relegate yourself to the shrine, when we need the help of the ancestors we shall consult you.

This is not what happens in ATR or Eastern Religions,, this is about what Sweet Jesus says.
Anyone that is informed, is useful and far better anyday, than or to an ignoranus Christian/believer
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 12:21pm On Jun 27, 2019
Shepherd00:
A pagan who does not have regards for the word of the God you claim you serve has spoken words of wisdom abi?
What is the wisdom in what he said?

Keep shouting SSA monogamous romantic relationship maybe with time it will pop up in the Bible
You left out "strictly". C'mon stop slacking.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
openmine:

grin
Even you are making such erroneous submission!
Oga kegel exercise is only used to strengthen just your pelvic floor muscles to delay ejaculation and not to strengthen you anus!
The anus doesn't need such as it has its own ability to strengthen itself from the inside!
The problem is from the outside which when stretched may not return back to its original position!

Just because you don't smoke does not mean you are healthy, even those who excessively drink have unhealthy bodies!
However,your unnecessary comparison is not enough excuse to state that smokers are healthy!

At times,you guys need to leave the cyberspace and get down to some realities about your health!
Stop trying to all of sudden become knowledgeable in kegel. Kegel strengthes the pelvic and anus region jor, go and better cross check to find out that the purpose of practicing Kegel exercises is to strengthen the muscles that help control bowel, the anus, by default inclusive.

Why do we men clench our butts and eyes shut, when coming. Go figure. It's easy for you to dismiss and poo-poo.

You are skirting away from the fact. I am talking of the state of lungs of a nonsmoker and a smoker, and you drifted off to something else
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
openmine:
You indeed speak as one who really has no grasp of the scriptures!

Indeed I don't speak for God!

But I use his words to speak!

This manipulative narrative is not excuse to the scriptures that clearly defines what God permits and endorses!
There are more than 25 scriptures where God welcomes and endorses union/marriage between a MAN and a WOMAN!

If you and Muttleylaff believe there is some sort of scripture that bears semblance to God endorsing homosexual acts, please coordinate with him and find such scriptures so that we can save our selves from extending this unnecessary thread any further!
openmine, openmine, SSA attraction has always been a minority, as ever being few and far in between, this why there are only at least two mentioned reference in the Bible about it. As it was in Biblical times, being a single digit amount of the entire world population, so it is now in the 21st century. Now what I am getting at or saying, I am saying because though besides the physiological God design of the human body, male especially in this case, God had no reason to in the Bible disapprove of strictly monogamous SSA relationship and romantic sexual act in that kind of setting. There is no scripture disapproving or approving of SSA having a strictly monogamous relationship and anything romantic sexual in that context.

OkCornel:
Exactly! One example of same sex marriage in the scriptures will put this matter to rest!
Please openmine and OkCornel don't anymore send Folykaze or any other poster on a "arodan" errand. Besides, the thread, as I keep reminding you was never opened to search for anything of that sort, but to deconstruct the lies perpetrated by the church, you've learned to believe, hook line and sinker. Now, I am waiting for the first poster, who is going to start referring me as the Antichrist.
cc EmperorHarry
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 10:48am On Jun 27, 2019
openmine:
Whatever you agree with has nothing to do with the realities!
You can as well ignore medical advise about smokers and join him!
Meanwhile are we discussing anal sex or scriptures that prove God's endorsement of homosexual deeds?
Smoking is dangerous to the health, you know that much. Have you seen the state of a non-smoker lungs compared with a smoker's openmine? Well I rest my case then.

Kegel exercise for men is to strengthen the anus and pelvic region, so you can last longer than a 40 seconds man does because you'll be able to control when you want to blast.

The thread and my post is getting risqué, so will hold back saying anymore in this regard
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
^^^^
Folykaze, I concur without any demur to all you've typed immediately above and on the next post above. Any one whose agree and accept those comments can "komanbitmi in my aos"

You have said, exactly almost all I would have typed about anal sex. There is bacteria in the mouth sef, on the penis, after you use the toilets, on your kitchen sponge, in your gut, the list goes. How you safeguard yourself from infection is through cleanliness and good hygiene practice . Is it any wonder, our missuses and daughters daily wash under. There is a reason for it.

Too many prudes on the thread, not realising that husbands and wives anal each other because of the pleasure etcetera. Anal sex by a God design is available for whoever that floats their boat.
cc EmperorHarry
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
openmine:
You will soon be sipping cold tea by the time you have received your final TKO
Bang! Bullseye. I said to myself watch it within 10 mins openmine will respond to my post, thats not even having any poster mentioned in it.

Tbh, I don't know what is eating away in him openmine, something terrible is really gnawing away at him inside. He has taken it upon himself to be policing every other comment and posts I upload.

He is a "curtain twitcher", Mr Neighbourhood Watch. The guy says he knows that I upload posts at around 6:00-6:30am every day. What a pitiful life, having to be watching my posts and waiting for me to post something so he can respond to it. It's quite bizarre.

I am actually sipping and having iced cold tea. Didn't you read the memo, we have a heatwave thing currently going on. It gets worse on Saturday coming.
cc EmperorHarry
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 9:51am On Jun 27, 2019
#sipstea, not strong coffee, like some do
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
FOLYKAZE:
Who is pagan?
"Ase ni bọbọ yẹn. Ootii mọ ẹnu gbọrọ. Abẹbẹ ni, ki nse fan ẹ"

FOLYKAZE:
I knew it was sweet jesus talk, that was why I ignored the thread in the first place.
But if you noticed, the topic is about consented adult homos, this is about fellow human being and their fundamental right to live and orientation. And as such, I can contribute to the thread.
Are we writing a new book here? "
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:09pm On Jun 02

"Na so we see am, nothing wey Musa, no go see for front gate
We shall know the truth things, and the truth shall make us free things. Issa goal.
"
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:21pm On Jun 02

"I rarely discuss on topic like this. Apologies, I won't contribute anything reasonable here."
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:34pm On Jun 02

"I know you well, that you dont discuss on topics like this and I never was expecting you to. Your awareness that such a thread was opened was all I wanted to convey to you. I actually wanted you to be among the list of "dont mind objective referees", but absent mindedly left you out."
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:38pm On Jun 02

Thank you ojaare. Tell him at the emboldened and underlined above! I gave you an invite, let Shepherd00 and anybody else "komanbitmi in my aos" for inviting you on to the thread.

I've said before that, imagine, I wonder how they'll feel and/or behave, if one homosexual, happened to be their Dad, Mum, Granpa, grandma, Aunt, Uncle, Niece, Nephew, Cousin, Work Colleague, Friend, Daughter or Son, hmm?

FOLYKAZE:
Yoruba spirituality is my pride, my heritage and my cultural identity, which I am proud of.

Ever wonder why ATR, and many Eastern religion don't discuss topic like this? Apart from not been homophobic, they have important thing to talk about that is beneficial to humanity. The greatest advantage is uniting the world, instead of creating a divide like your religion does here
Wisdom words, na wa oo. I am ashamed. Not only important things, but they havent like the church, lied, misled and invented falsehoods about SSA just only to have them demonised and have SSA strictly monogamous romantic relationship and sexual act hated
cc EmperorHarry
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
Shepherd00:
Are you changing your words about what you said Arsenokoites was?
You dont know this, but you are more confused than a fart let ripped out, on the production line, inside a fan-making factory

Shepherd00:
Didn't you say it was wrongly used to demonize SS people?
The church and people like you, have used one word, an aspect of homosexuality to cover all cases of homosexuality, knowing fully well that the term "arsenokoites" does not tie-up with SS people living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle. It is chalk and cheese, the two instances are different.

It is glaring, except if in denial, and this now, is talking of certain posters on this thread, the likes of TV0.1 in particular, then Shepherd00, open.mine, O.kCornel, b.loodofthelamb, solite.3, jesus.jnr, elated.177, Ranch.hoddas, Thoth.Hermes, a.lBHAGDADI etcetera, what the true and original meaning of "porneia" and Paul's "arsenokoites" used in 1 Timothy 1:10 and and 1 Corinthians 6:9 is, before each were being translated to mean "homosexual" or homosexual acts and used to demonise, discriminate and persecute SSA persons. They even lied and translated "qadesh" and/or a sodomite too, mentioned above, to in every respect, mean an ordinary SSA person, "homosexual" or homosexual act.

The above paragraph is an excerpt from the post you have everything mixed up and confused from.

Shepherd00:
You said Categorically that, even a certain Pastor Artur something, haven really looked into the terms agreed that Apst Paul wasn't talking about homosexuality or men sexing men, but temple Prostitution.
You gave the time when you believed the translation was changed to homosexuality.
Look at Romans Chapter 1 now, read it contextually.

If you do, then you'll know that Romans 1:26-28, is Apostle Paul talking of straight males who were sexing other men in their cults which is unnatural to them because they arent sexually attracted to men, but just doing it for pagan religious reasons or forced into doing merely for financial gains

Romans 1:25-27, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are caught up in deeper meanings that when properly and correctly studied gives one abetter and right understanding of the passages

Shepherd00, come here, come closer, let me lean forward and say this in your ear, if you're reading Bible in translation(s), you can bet your bottom dollar that a very good 90% of the real and original bible meanings are bungled, botched, twisted and/or fouled up. So what's the remedy for this? How does one counteract and fix this Shepherd00? Well whenever you read and study Bible, you first have to find out the "whys", if not, then, you don't know the meaning of the "whats" you have in front of you. Romans 1:25-27, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are good case in points of this.

Shepherd00:
You accused Apst Paul of changing the term and made it look like God was against homosex when in fact, He isn't.
Now I know, you don kolo, add put to your ignorance and your mumu has upgraded to part 2. You've wrongly been think about what I typed too much and for too long, now you've ended tying yourself up in knots, from trying too hard to understand all I've typed. What Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 1:26-28 is different to what he typed in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10, but there is a common thread in all three, which is male prosituting. Incidentally and/or by coincidence OkCornel is interested in, that him and I discuss Romans 1:26-28 together.

Fyi Shepherd00, the coined term "arsenokoites" was not like as done in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10 used in Romans 1:26-28 because the term wasnt he hadnt yet invented the term when the letter to the Romans was written

I never accused Apostle Paul of changing anything Shepherd00, but I explained the origin of the word "arsenokoites" and described how the word was developed by Apostle Paul when creating it.

Shepherd00:
I kept calling you back to tell me what the Act of men sexing men was called, instead of trying to bury it in terms like Arsenokoites and the other terms you pulled up. What did you say 'SSR is not homosexuality, but 'SSR.
Like Homo, doesn't mean 'the same'.
You kept calling me back to do what, hmm? You kept calling me back to join you in chasing shadows? Right? You know what, I do recall once telling you that you're not only a time waster but you're an unashamedly time stealer and a time killer. I added that you, abeggy carry your bad energy and negativity far far far away from me please. I further told you, to keep your distance. Why havent you stuck fast to the advice, hmm?

Shepherd00:
Now you been caught, you admit Arsenokoites is men sexing men, but the ones which jump around.

MuttleyLaff, it's not about the gallivanting of the men, but the Act or pattern of sex they choose.
"All SSA people are "homosexuals/lesbians" or indulge in SSA sexual act, but not all SSA people are into "porneia", are "arsenokoites", a "qadesh/qedeshah", "malakoi/malakos" or are a "sodomite" but you watch as my brethren/sisters, as they, either think little of all this, ignore this, gloss over it and/or make these facts I've made known, seem not important, significant nor interesting. The church, in this regard has proven herself to be a serial liar in regards to the true and actual meanings of those terms or words."
- by MuttleyLaff: 11:44pm On Jun 25 2019

Shepherd00, you're just making a further and more nuisance of yourself. Of course, you can read the above inverted commas quote of mine, and so I rest my case. I have nothing further to add.
cc EmperorHarry
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
Shepherd00:
Wait!!! Did you forget that I called your attention to it, but you claimed you wrote the same thing because you both have great minds which thinks and says the same thing?

OKcornel posted your response to that here, did you forget?
Shepherd00, talk is cheap. You're a mouthful, throwing out words and I've been warning you that the fat is in the fire.

This is a ludicrous thought, it isn't acceptable, it is you cheerfully casual in a careless and irresponsible way insisting on discrediting me by making false accusations. It is embrassing. I no like am shishi. Your wahala sef don dey too much now, you get lying talent die, and "wahala yi, dẹ ti fẹ wa pọju nsẹyin sef kẹ, abi kini gbogbo radarada yi bayi. Abi iru pala pala wo leleyi, ti mo ko, lọwọ Shepherd00" Biko, jor.

Nwanne, brother, please, if you have proof and evidence of me plagiarising other people's content, please, please, as a man full of honor and integrity that you are, paste it here verbatim for the whole wide world to see and that you and I, can both carefully examine what you've presented as exhibits and we both cross-check for evidence of me alleged to have copied and pasted. Now, if you are unable to, bring forward at least one proof, then do the right thing of withdrawing and retracting this your funny old smear campaign, in addition of, putting out, a follow up apology for the slander and malicious lies.

"Alaye mi, you go school nah, shebi o kawe, shebi o mọ iwe" loosely translated means "My Mr Big man, you attended college, didnt you. I thought you're literate, thought you read and know book"

Tbh, Shepherd00, it just beats me, why you never understood, that the phrase, "great minds think alike" in simple literal terms, means, two or more people having the same thought, as in, used for when two or more have a particular same way of thinking. I am equally surprised that OkCornel was puzzled and was questioning the use of the phrase by me because I used it also for alBHAGDADI and I.
cc EmperorHarry
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 7:57pm On Jun 26, 2019
OkCornel:
Muttley, I'm having issues logging into my system.

We'll proceed on our discussion regarding

1) Arsenokytes
2) Romans 1 v 26-28
3) The Talmud that prohibits same sex marriage among the gentiles.

It is impossible not to have these discussions without inserting references...

For example, unless you want to tell us you are fluent in Greek to give us the interpretation of Arsenokytes...

We'll do so when I can access my system...as I'm typing from my phone currently...

If not tonight, then tomorrow...

Also expect my responses to your other posts
No problems my dear brother, take your time and I'll be praying for you that everything gets set properly and correctly for you, so don't worry much or even at all.

OkCornel, all I am asking is to put down, in your own constructed words, what you've found, amassed, got to know, learned and understood about each of those three subject matters you itemised for us. If I can write posts in my own words, and without sign posting anyone to third party websites or sources, so can you easily do too. If you wrote things up yourself, you would be able to confidently defend what you've typed and be able to answer convincingly any questions asked you about anything in your write-up.

OK, I am a generous, firm and fair person, and I happen to be in a generous mood right now, so put in references, if you want to or have to, but just make sure it's minimal. Tbh, I don't like responding to regurgitated contents or lifted and dropped in contents, some call it copy & pasted, the reason I don't like it is because it is indefensible, being I am not talking to the original author of the content

I am online 24/7, nothing do me. Just holler, when you are about, yeah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
^^^^
The erratic might be due to the current heatwave everyone is feeling and complaining of being humid, sticky and very hot today.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
OkCornel:
I just noticed you edited this your comment to invite alBH.AGDADI...
I've been watching you one post after the other post today, cc inviting TV01, Openmine, Shepherd00, so I thought, if alBHAGDADI feels like joining, why not extend an invite to him too. You dont want alBHAGDADI join in the fun ni? Or you want to dominate the thread all by yourself ni, erhn?

OkCornel:
You and alBH.AGDADI think alike, but alBH.AGDADI is not in support of homosexuality... You are not in support of monetary tithing
Please clarify on what you mean by thinking alike, but yet having differences...

Cc; Openmine, Shepherd00, here we go again...
OkCornel, are all your fingers equal? No, of course they arent.

Now watch this. Do you really think God isnt aware there'll be divisions in ekklesia? Do you think God didnt know alBHAGDADI wouldnt be in support of strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle and I would? That alBHAGDADI would champion mandated ecclesiastical or obligatory tithing and I kick against it?
OkCornel, listen, we dont mind all that because what unites the fingers is greater than what is division among them

What unites alBHAGDADI and I together is far greater than that which divides us. We have different graces and different level of grace. We have the same Holy Spirit, but fit into same amount and equal Holy Spirit, size wise, differently

Lastly, alBHAGDADI thinks in the same or a similar way like I do. alBHAGDADI goes about things in the same or a similar way like I do. alBHAGDADI says and writes certain things in the same or a similar way like I do. alBHAGDADI and I think alike that, Jesus Christ is God, He is our Lord and Saviour. Hallelujah. Amen to that. Praise to God in the highest.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 5:31pm On Jun 26, 2019
OkCornel:
See why I said it is difficult to separate the sinner from the sin? Christians are not permitted to hate anyone, whether they are homosexuals or thieves.

But ensuring justice is dispensed doesn't necessarily mean hatred for the sinner. At the end of the day, everyone reaps what he/she sows.
I hated the thieving bastard not personally, not as a person, but hated him for what he did, he stole my car. Prior to stealing my car, another two precious violations with same car, my car window was smashed in, costing me to fork out a liitle over a hundred quid to get replaced, (i.e. an unnecessary and not budgeted for expense), my car's dashboard compartment was ransacked, the boot got into, to thief away my high performance sub woofer speakers and amp. Do you think after all those, I loved the guy(s) who did this? C'mon now OkCornel that, if I bumped into them on that day, I'll throw my arms round him/her, exchange niceties with him/her and mutter, I love you, hmm?

Now let's bring this home, the homosexual, that you compared this thieving bastard with, on the other hand, has been minding his/her own business, kept his/her nose clean, not bothering anyone nor antagonising anybody, is squeaky and goody two shoes. Why on earth should want to or would I want hate such person OkCornel erhn? Can you now see how flawed and illogical your comparison of a thief and a homosexual is?

I, at least was honest, I answered your question, but you didnt bother to answer the two questions I put to you. You instead you faffed about and started talking of tangent about something completely unconnected. You didnt have the good sense and decency to answer the two below questions:
1/ Do you have anything, no matter how small, against male and female sexing each other?
2/ Do you have anything, no matter how small, against male and male sexing each other?

OkCornel:
Homosexuality is totally wrong, and it is even more annoying when a homosexual attempts to lure me into such an act. I get extremely furious at such. A boundary is crossed at that point in time.
OK, I respect your right in having the opinion that homosexuality is totally wrong, but lets cut to the chase, with these few questions OkCornel:
1/ Please tell me, what specifically is it, as far as you understand it, that makes homosexuality totally wrong?
2/ Please tell, when, how, where has a homosexual attempted to lure you into homosexuality act?
3/ What was the kind or sort of homosexuality attempts were you lured into?
4/ What is reason for the rage, why do you get extremely angry?

OkCornel:
Muttley, separate the act from the actor. I am not permitted to hate the actor, but I am definitely permitted to hate the act! That doesn't make me homophobic.
Unfortunately OkCornel, I really I am sorry for being the one to tell you this, that, it does make you homophobic

OkCornel:
Being homophobic is hating the actor and the act...
Being homophobic is put homosexual at a disadvantage because of the act. You OkCornel are prejudiced towards homosexual because of their act, that means you are a confirmed and bonafide homophobic. No two ways about it, as long has you have this thing about their act, you're marked a homophobic for as long as you still do.

OkCornel:
Like I mentioned earlier, homosexuality, lesbianism, tribalism, racism, theft, fornication, bestiality, abuse of substances e.t.c. I put them in the same bracket. Everyone has a defect, likewise everyone has something positive and good about themselves. I love the good and hate the bad, but I am not in any way permitted to hate the person
Homosexuality and lesbianism have place in that your whack category

OkCornel:
Would you like us to go through
I very much would like us to both go through them albeit with signpostings. I prefer original content that is first hand, it is easier to grill and interrogate the first hander, than some third party content, whom the authour of, doesnt even know we both exist

I am enthusiastically looking forward to this "going through" stuff together OkCornel. Do you know why I am fantastically thrilled at the opportunity to do this, hmm? Well, it is the prospect of if a crooked stick is before you, you need not explain how crooked it is. Lay a straight one down by the side of it, and the work is well done. The truth will be preached and error will stand embrassed

OkCornel:
1) The meaning of Arsenokytes?
2) Romans 1 v 26-28?
3) The Talmud that also prohibits/outlaws same sex marriage for the gentiles?
You go first OkCornel

OkCornel:
I agree. But regarding the matter of loving the sinner but hating the sin, Jesus and Ghandi are on the same page;

I can't recall one sinner Jesus hated, was it the Prostitute? or the thief by His side on the cross? or Zaccheus the extortionist?

This is not a license to promote sin, note that those aforementioned sinners were willing to forsake such lifestyles after encountering Jesus. Likewise, believers are expected to confess and forsake those sins...and the ultimate power for that resides in the Spirit of God to overcome such...
I dont think you know Ghandi that very well as you make yourself believe you do. If Ghadhi, were to meet you OkCornel, he'll probably shock you, by telling you to your face, that he likes your Jesus, but he doesnt like you OkCornel. His reason will be that he doesnt like you because you are so unlike our Jesus Christ.

OkCornel:
Amongst the few things that really put Jesus on the edge were hypocrisy and gloating in self righteousness (the Pharisees had such in abundance)...
Oh yeah, I see a lot of that "hypocrisy and gloating in self righteousness" expressed and displayed on this thread. I have a very good fanciful name for them, I call them the "Far-To-Sees", they are to far to see past their bridge nose
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
OkCornel:
This is just to show how silly and illogical your reasoning is...Let's put homosexuality and theft side by side since they're both sins

For example, do you have anything, no matter how small, against a thief stealing your property? Does it mean you hate the thief when you are not in support of theft?
Yes, I hate the thief, I hate him for being a thieving bastard. I vividly remember in 1995, waking up and walking down the street to where I parked my beautiful waxed black colored VW Golf Gti Mark II, couldn't find it in slot I parked. I walked both ends of the street, only for to dawn on me that my beloved car has been stolen. I remember how I hated the person that violated me by stealing this loved car. I remember also prior to this, on two separate occasions, when the windows of same car, was smashed, just for some thieving bastard to take out my removable car hi-fi, got to my boot, rummaged through to take away the high performance speakers in there.


OkCornel:
If telling the truth (which is bitter anyways) is what you mistake for being homophobic...or hating a thief, you've gotten it totally wrong.
I straightaway answered your question about hating a thief or not, but you couldn't answer the two questions put to you, you just as usual turn evasive

Homosexuality did me no wrong, has done no one anything evil or bad, but thieving, why would anyone take what isn't rightfully theirs, why take another's property without authorisation, hmm?

You need help, you need help with the disorder you have. Homophobia is a disorder, and it can be cured off, only if you are willing to be cured and become a better person

OkCornel:
So when Arsenokytes is interpreted as a male that lies with males (homosexuality)... which Paul included in 1 Timothy 1 v 8-11; and Romans 1 v 26-27; Paul wasn't talking about homosexuality abi?

Mtcheeew
Arsenokoites is not just, male that lies with male. It actually means male sexing males, it means a male hopping from one bed to another bed. It means a homosexual, who is promiscuous, means someone having casual sex with many and different men. It means a homosexual, sleeping around, having multiple sexual partners. Please why don't you want to get the fact right, hmm?


OkCornel:
alBHAGDADI also tried this silly line with me. Need I tell you that that Hindu brother (Mahatma Ghandi) studied the Bible/Jesus extensively before saying that?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. At the end of the day, any sinner who refuses to confess his/her sins has his or herself to blame...

You cannot solve if your problem if you do not admit (confess) you have one...
I am glad he did, just shows great minds think alike, hey. alBHAGDADI and I think alike, in spite of whatever difference we might have. I'll still any day, take Jesus' words, teachings and virtues way above and first before Mahatma Gandhi.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 1:14pm On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
But I just posted the website for interested folks to go in there and see for themselves. Unlike you who is hiding scriptures, I posted a link.
This is shoddy, this isn't acceptable, this is mediocre. Nwanne, brother please, if you have proof and evidence of me plagiarising other people's content, please, please, as a man full of honor and integrity, paste it here verbatim for the whole wide world to see and that you and I can both carefully examine what you've presented as exhibits and we both cross-check for evidence of me alleged to have copied and pasted. If you are unable to, then do the right thing of withdrawing and retracting this your funny old smear campaign, in addition of a follow up apology for the slander and malicious lies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 1:06pm On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
Look at that? A man who is so well read does not or has never heard of Sir Aleister Crowley. MuttleyLaff, you can lie eh.

And, which Elephant are you talking about? Lolzzzzz. There's no single Rat in this your room (thread). If there was, that verse in Isaiah wld've come out.
What am I going to do about you Shepherd00, hmm? Shepherd00 please calm down mate, please chill and relax, because when and where, did O say I don't know Aleister or that I have never heard of him, hmm? Shepherd00, don't you know the difference or meaning of "don't associate me with Aleister" ni? Your cup, hmm, your cup ooo. I don't want to look to see what level it's at. Repent nwanne, repent quickly and make a U-turn because of what lays ahead. There is danger and doom crouching to pounce. You have dutifully been forewarned

You are a bad influence on OkCornel, you have managed to get join you in smearing me with falsehood, salacious fake news, fantansy, make believes and delusion
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 12:54pm On Jun 26, 2019
OkCornel:
Muttley, show me where I promoted hatred against homosexuals on this thread... Another desperate lie from you...
Easy, peasy, lemon squeezy OkCornel. Are you ready OkCornel for me to show you where and how you promote hatred against homosexuals on this thread, hmm?

Here it is OkCornel:
1/ Do you have anything, no matter how small, against male and female sexing each other?
2/ Do you have anything, no matter how small, against male and male sexing each other?

Need I go on? Need I ask more questions? Need I spell it out for you that you are a homophobic, hmm?

OkCornel:
Homosexuality, lying, fornication, bestiality e.t.c... they're all sin...

But what I find absolutely disgusting is defending a sinful lifestyle...

No remorse, no show of repentance, now that is something totally different...
The Bible has never ever stated that homosexuality is a sin. The fact of the matter, is that, the word homosexuality, isn't even an original word in the Bible. This word is an invention of man, introduced into the Bible by man, just less than 200 years ago.

OkCornel:
Hate the sin, not the sinner. Easy to say, difficult to do...but must be done!
Do you know who that "hate the sin, not the sinner" saying is attributed to, hmm OkCornel? Do you know that is not a Biblical verse and/or not even from scripture? Yep brother, a Hindu, said that. I will take Jesus' words, deeds, actions and teachings, any day, any time, over that of a Hindu. Thank you very much.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 12:20pm On Jun 26, 2019
OkCornel:
There are many other questions you've dodged...

Such as your source(s) to the interpretation of Arsenokytes and strange flesh.

I have narrowed everything down and made it easier for you...

Show one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures...

Shepherd00, openmine, TV01, have shown you scriptures that proves homosexuality is sinful...

Even the consensual same sex relationship you have been arguing on has been busted by the Talmud...

You have nowhere else to hide on this matter...

Your fellow homosexual supporters (e.g. folykaze) would really be happy if you can show one scriptural example of same sex marriage...

Or they're not responsible too?
You can't go on, you cant survive on the thread, without asking this same request, over and all over again. Your staying on the thread, depends on you keep on repeating the question, even when you know, it will never be granted you. This explicitly has been well known made to you that the information wouldn't be given to you, at least not by me, and if someone else does give it to you, I wouldn't corroborate it. No, I won't confirm, if it is or not.

It is only a wicked, hard hearted, ugly dark soul and evil person, who will not empathise with SSA people. SSA people have enough, everyday, to deal with on their plate, not to have be mindful and be worried of some people, like on this thread demonising and whipping up hatred upon them and their strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle.

Where is the hospitality, where is the compassion, where is the love, that Jesus preached in all this? Did Jesus teach and demonstrate all these virtues for us, in vain?
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 11:55am On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
I can quote Aleister Crowley saying this same thing to his lieutenant. Hmmmmmmm MuttleyLaff.

You dey hide scripture now?
Oh did he now. I didn't know Aleister said anything like that to his lieutenant. Well, there you are Shepherd00, you seem to know more than I do about Aleister then. I hardly and at all, know Aleister.

I look forward to you, pasting both my comments and those of your Rev. Turner here, for all to see, so we can together carefully examine and cross check, if I had plagiarised any content off his website, OK?

You and slander, are 5 and 6.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 11:52am On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
You know MuttleyLaff. I think you are subtly propagating what Aleister Crowley advocated, but mildly.

You promote homosexuality, he did.

You promote Masturbation, he did.

You promote the use of Narcotics or (High drugs), he did.

What else are you not telling us?

Are you an Occult hiding inside Church?
All I see here, is a drowning man, clutching at any available water reed in sight, desperately trying to remain or stay afloat, with head above water. From Rev. Turner to Aleister Crowley... I wonder who else from your excessive wild imagination and fantasy, you will try associate me with next, hmm?

Shepherd00 is only interested in salacious fakes news, rumours and make believes. Never remotely interested in the elephants in the room, I've so far, introduced him and the thread to.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 11:45am On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
Abeg, show me were YHWH commended the homosexuals and promised them anything. Where did Jesus praised them? Stop this rigmarole
What part of NO, don't you understand, erhn? Is it by force, to tell you ni? I said, you haven't proved yourself worthy yet, to have that information. Please forget that one. Go sleep on it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 11:42am On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
Anyone who wants to catch MuttleyLaff hands down shd type www.gaychristians101.com. you wld see verbatim what MuttleyLaff copied pasted here.

When I brought it to his attention before, he claimed, they were like mines thinking and writing the exact same things. They used the same phrased, framed sentences he same way.

Rev. Turner of "The Church With out Walls", is MuttleyLaff's right hand man.
Shepherd00, are you scared of pasting both my comments and those of your Rev. Turner here, for all to see, so we can together carefully examine and cross check, if I had plagiarised any content off his website, hmm?
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op):
OkCornel:
The knowledgeable, traveling, artful dodger...

Please show us one example of same sex marriage from the scriptures...
OkCornel, let me be frank and kindly explain to you what you have as a problem. You are a one-trick-pony poster on this thread. You have no tricks left in your bag of tricks, so you just have to, as if your entire pitiful dear life depends on it, hang to repeatedly asking this now gone stale request. You are not ingenious or creative capable to formulate another request or question other than this single one. You have no other strategy than this and only single. Not obliging you, will gnaw and eat away in you, inside, except you are wise and clever enough to re-strategise and/or devise something else and new.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 10:04am On Jun 26, 2019
OkCornel:
Not one source to your interpretation of Arsenokytes,

Not one scriptural example of same sex marriage...

Shame...
It's called being responsible, by not handing over something to someone not trained or worthy yet to have it. You're not going to be given it, you cant touch it. It can, the day that you touch it, kill you, that's why.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 9:54am On Jun 26, 2019
OkCornel:
So you're giving us your flawed interpretation of Arsenokytes as a fact?

No source(s) to back up your interpretation?

So sad...
Well, that's where you got it wrong. Its from many and different discussusions, I've had with my missus, family members, friends, acquaintances, people I've casually bumped with on the road and innocently we talked about all sorts, then gay issues crept into the discussion etcetera. OkCornel, tbh with the sources are varied, I would know when and where, all I know it got formulated from those experiences and especially, like I've earlier told you on Page 27, of course with the aid of my Teacher, nudging and egging me on in right directions.

OkCornel:
One scriptural example of same sex marriage shouldn't be hard to find for homosexual activists na...
Its not hard. It actually is easy, peasy, lemon squeezy, only that because of the pips in the lemon, you cant have the scriptures OkCornel. Again sorry about that and nothing personal. It called being responsible, not to hand over something to someone not trained or worthy yet to have it. Now stop behaving like a broken record, bleating and repeating yourself for it. Behave now.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 9:45am On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
Hahahahahahaha. Okay, the passage in Isaiah you claimed YHWH promised to reward the homosexuals and the one the Lord Jesus Highly praised homosexuality abi?
One out of two right. Not bad Shepherd00, I did say, I've become warming up to you, didnt I. Looks like you want to be consistent. I think I need to be giving you more attention than anyone else for now. You unconsciously are learning, and increasing learning fast. That is impressive and you can take it as a compliment. Watch out someone will covet that glory and shine on, would want to share a part of it. You've been forwarned. Thats what moGs do, to forwarn just like I do.

Shepherd00:
I don tell you before, no post dem becos of me, do am for your silent audience. they'd want some closure that what they are doing is okay by God. Isn't that what you opened this thread to do?
It doesnt work like that Shepherd00. This is how it works, when you say one thing, the clever person understands three. The clever person, is able, capable and so smart enough, to join the dots I've put down and then see the emerged picture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 9:32am On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
Maybe I shd post where he lifted that 'Arsenokytes' concept from.
OkCornel:
Please do...
Yeah! Please do Shepherd00. Do you know what in Yoruba, is called "arodan"?
Well OkCornel is egging you, to go on a fruitless and futile "arodan". There is no road there, because you wouldnt find all and what I wrote up there about "arsenokoites" online or anyone's websites for that matter. Sorry to burst your bubble. I am ever so sorry for shattering and destroying your illusions about that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 9:06am On Jun 26, 2019
Shepherd00:
Ah, this court jester.
naimean... I've got jokes too. I have a funny bone just like youse all too. "Ko si arugbo ni Ghana"

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