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Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 6:56pm On Jun 21, 2019*

OkCornel:
So are you ready to tell us those who confessed and forsook their homosexual and lesbian lifestyle after encountering Jesus are liars?

That their testimonies are lies?

I am prepared and ready to tell you that to each their own and most especially that Jesus takes you just the way you, so far you are in a romantic, trusting, kind, faithful, caring, not cruel to anyone, mutual love that is till death do part SSA relationship.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 6:48pm On Jun 21, 2019

Shepherd00:
I'm shaking with fright.

You better be. Don't say you werent warned and don't come looking for me to gain assistance against whatever fate befalls you

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 5:42pm On Jun 21, 2019

Shepherd00:
You seem dead to me. How can you be this brazen?

Who do you like dis?

I've warned you before about your choice of words towards a moG. My God is a vengeance able God, and I wouldn't want you in any way feel His wrath because of you continuing to persist in this your bad behaviour. Be warned again Shepherd00. Clean up.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 3:04pm On Jun 21, 2019*

TV01:
Excerpt from here - https://www.thedailybeast.com/gay-open-marriages-need-to-come-out-of-the-closet

In a 2013 column for Slate, Hanna Rosin called non-monogamy the gay community’s “dirty little secret,” citing a study from the ’80s, which showed that up to 82 percent of gay couples had sex with other people. That number sounds about right to me, but here’s the thing: It’s not dirty and it’s hardly a secret, at least if you know where to look.

Monogamish couples are a constant presence on apps like Grindr and Scruff, which allow gay men to connect with other men to chat or hook up. Users commonly describe themselves as “dating,” “in an open relationship,” “partnered,” or “married,” while others set up an account with their partner if they’re looking to play together.

I spoke to one couple that hasn’t let marriage get in the way of their Scruff account. Eric, 34, and Martin, 33, walked down the aisle last October after dating for five years. Like many gay couples, they were initially monogamous, although with “infrequent and informal” exceptions. “Think post-bar bathhouse outings,” Eric explained. But after creating a profile together on Scruff a few years ago, the couple agreed on a set of boundaries. “We only sleep with people together, we have to both communicate with the person to some extent before we meet up, and the guy has to very clearly be attracted to both of us,” Eric said.

Like nearly everyone I spoke to, the pair had few gay friends that were in monogamous relationships, and Martin believes it’s because there are fewer rules and expectations around gay relationships. “I think we don’t have heteronormative templates that we have to subscribe to,” Martin said. “There’s just not that same kind of pressure to be monogamous when you’re gay.”

...urgh!

Look at what TV01, out of frustration and desperation, brought up from searching the dregs and scraping the bottom of the barrel, he even is doing a largely factitious urgh at it.

Conventional wisdom has it that nobody in a faithful, committed, truthful, caring kind, love until death do part relationships wants a cheating partner, wants a partner that sleeps around, wants a lustful and covetous partner, wants an emotionally manipulative partner, wants an abusive, violent or cruel partner, wants a partner with sexual interest in prepubescent children, wants a partner sexually involved with a minor, kids or animal(s). Nobody wants a promiscuous partner TV01, whatever kind of romantic sexual relationship they are in

TV01:
MuttleyLaff you can lie! Fess up, no answer. OkCornel don land knockout blow

TV

When we are done deconstructing the lies and myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union then maybe you can table the alleged lies you accuse me of. There is nothing to confess. It isnt my problem if none of youse, know the Bible well enough to tell it doesnt anywhere in it disapprove of SSA relationship. Nobody is going to spoon feed anyone on this thread, especially not the one who dont deserve being spoon fed. I am not going to provide someone with so much information that they ought have already known from studying and thus showed themselves approved to God and be an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth. Yup, you're right, poor chap landed a knockout blow and knocked himself out

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 6:27am On Jun 21, 2019*

Shepherd00:
Funny how you'd call my stance 'false religious flavoring', when all you have been doing is present your personal logic gleaned from sin laden gay pastor who by all means tries to pass himself off as a man of God.

You still havent learned anything as usual and I am not surprised

Shepherd00:
You are brazenly walking pass the questions OKcornel presents to you. What happened to the Ex-gay people who are no longer gay?

I am brazenly walking pass the questions OKcornel presents to me because I dont suffer hypocrites gladly, especially the ones like him, who take pride and delight in their hypocrisy

Shepherd00:
A man who was born male can never become something other than a man

They are men of course by gender but have sexual orientations towards or for same sex

Shepherd00:
If these people were born Gay, how could they change from being that?

This is like you asking me how come some lefthanded people born that way, change from that to being righthanded, when it is obvious the reason why they changed

Shepherd00:
Are they lying that they were?

Why should they lie? Tell me nau, hmm?

Shepherd00:
You have huffed and puffed and tried to replace terms with the Act of homosexuality, but deep down in you, you know the truth.

You got that right, I know the real truth and know the facts too but you are more confused than a fart, let loose in a fan-making factory

Shepherd00:
You mean I clutch at straws by kicking your arse into curbs?

You always have been a dreamer. Yup, I know you did in your dreams

Shepherd00:
MuttleyLaff, you are a funny man. You opened this thread to expose all the lies held against homosexuality with facts from scriptures, when you were caught with your hand right in the cookie jar trying to steal scriptures, you started lying, saying you never said you were going to present scriptures, neither did you say God permits homosexuality.
All of a sudden you developed amnesia.
Lolzzzzz. Biko puo.

I like to see the proof and evidence of this another allegation and slander you've become accustomed to dishing out against me

Shepherd00:
Let folk go and read the links I posted here of what you posted here is not there verbatim.

It is verbatim, those are your exact words in green and red, even with time and date stamps too, so can easily be tracked to confirm

Shepherd00:
A coincidence indeed. Even the Pastor you mentioned who you claimed also saw that what Paul wrote was not about Homosexuality but temple Prostitution mentioned in that same site was a coincidence also MuttleyLaff?

Great minds think alike, dont you know that Shepherd00, hmm?
Oh you mean Pastor John MacArthur, the one that bloodofthelamb highly respects and holds in the utmost regard? Oh no, he had no choice, than to change, and so conceded and admitted the context had to do with temple prostitution and SSA acts done under idolatry influences after facing up with reality and the facts that showed and confirmed all this when looked at contextually Shepherd00.

Shepherd00:
Na small pikin you think say you dey follow talk?

[img]https://s3/images/Shepherd00kidPhone.jpg[/img]
Now that you first brought up the matter of small pikin, I wouldnt be surprised if you are, as I doubt if you and especially those other particular ones on this thread can dial this phone shown above. You wouldn’t even know where to start, you and all those 70s/80s/90s babies and millennials. Can you or any of them, dial the phone, even with a padlock on it or dial a number without touching the dial? Nah, I didnt think you or any of the others pikin could. Pikin matter closed as I rest my case.

Shepherd00:
Was that the reason you mentioned that character?

It was my only way to jolt O.kCornel memory and to make himsee the error of his way, with that hypocritical type line of questioning he was trying on me., especially when I knew he never tolerated it nor obliged alBHAGDADI with it.

Shepherd00:
I had to report him abi Na her, it got banned for peace to return.

Stop snitching because where I come from, it's embrassing being a snitch

Shepherd00:
And yes, I saw the fake in your friend Albagadi who is full of curses, yet claims he has the spirit of Christ.

He is true to himself, not being sneaky like our mutual friend O.kCornel

Shepherd00:
That was snaky of you.

No, it wasnt, it was just business as usual and nothing personal to it. Besides, if you know your Bible well enough, you'll know, there is a time to be snaky and be harmless as doves as well whilst being snaky, especially if you're about to be unfairly devoured, so you just fight fire, back with fire and God no go vex.

Shepherd00:
You brought a case that you can't win from the Bible stand point and all who could deconstruct with you saw that and stepped back. You cannot win trying to pass homosexuality is godly, it won't work

Shepherd00, I know a defeated warrior when I see one and as I know myself also, I know my capabilities, I have no need, to fear the result of a hundred battles. I've said it before, but will still repeat it here again. Victorious warriors, like myself, win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

Shepherd00:
So, you are now Pro-Tithe?

This nwanne doesnt know anything. Does one go back to a vomit, huh?

Shepherd00:
What makes O.Kcornel a hypocrite?

That chapter is closed. I am no more going to discuss it

Shepherd00:
And, why do you refer to his questions as the 'beaten Path question?'.

It's exactly what it is

Shepherd00:
because Albagadi took sides with you, you jumped for something you stood or stands against? Isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?

You know, as well as I know he took no sides with me, at least not on the subject discussed on this thread

Shepherd00:
You will not cross the bridge to answer why some people come out of Homosexuality? Why? because you are still in it abi? when you come out it, you'd know what to answer.

Dont make me laugh. Dreamer.

Shepherd00:
Maybe you shd point out this hypocrisy you hammer at here. What are his acts of hypocrisy?

You've got your fingers stuck in your ears, right, abi?

Shepherd00:
All the talk here is very unnecessary. My question is yet to be touched.

Two men having sex, that act is called what?

Now you have your hands covering your eyes or you haven't been reading. I am not surprised, as reading long posts, has always been a challenge for you.

Shepherd00:
How on earth does what Christ said there connects with the issue at hand?

Jesus mentioned hospitality, at His only and ever mention of Sodom and Gomorrah. The city proved they really are and were unfriendly, unwelcoming to strangers, this they even demonstrated when with trying to gang rape beings that to them appeared to be male human beings. I have already talked about how Sodom should have known better not to be maltreating other people, also told how Ezekiel explained what Sodom's sin, over the years, was, so I wont repeat myself here again, and if you hadnt read it, then so be it. Remember what I said in one of my previous posts, about the outcry of people, that rose to heaven and God, hmm?

Shepherd00:
Pls, tell me what you call the act of two men having sex, since it's not homosexuality

For the last time, its called SSA act, and that's not for the lack of a nicer or better word.

Shepherd00:
But, how does this response relate to OkCornel's post about people leaving homosexuality?

#IfYouKnowYouKnow
If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 6:14am On Jun 21, 2019*

OkCornel:
Mr. Muttley, you are a certified and shameless liar for claiming I have issues with certain questions al.BHAGDADI asked me on tithing...

I've said it time and over again on this thread and all over nairaland pro-tithers should show us where God demanded for money as tithe both in the old or new testament! OR where and when the early Christians (especially of non-Jewish origin) practiced tithing... whenever they ask for where God or Jesus abolished tithing...

Repeat this lie and I'll bring those threads to expose your lies here...

For you of all people to hide under tithing as an excuse is disgustingly pathetic...

Later you'll lie again and say you're not raising tithing issues on this thread...

The same way I've asked you questions on this thread is the same way I've also asked al.BHAGDADI questions, but you've always brought up diversions like this to dodge those questions...

There's no hiding place for you on this matter...

Mr OkCornel, this is no tithing issue, no one is making anything a titithing issue and so stop behaving like a cry-baby, like as if you're hoping for boobs to appear. Shepherd00 brought up this issue up after I aired my mind about it and I've since said the chapter is closed and not to be discussed by me again. So, why are you trying to re-open a closed and ended chapter ern. Move on man, move on with life. Biko ndo, jor. The thing no be fight, I was just saying ni ooo. It's TGIF, so lets thank God its Friday then instead.

Now other thing said, is that, I can turn your measly question on its head, turn the table on you and ask you, with the same type line of questioning that show in the Bible where God disapproved SSA relationship, where God said committed trusting, kind, caring faithful, love that is until death do part SSA relationship is evil, wrong and ba, hmm?

You must be high on "agbo jẹdi jẹdi", if you think, I'll be crossing that bridge before I come to it. I will not cross that bridge, before I myself come to it, just falls on your deaf ears, abi?
#sipstea, not strong coffee like Shepherd00 does

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 2:29am On Jun 21, 2019*

Shepherd00:
But, how does this response relate to O.kCornel's post about people leaving homosexuality?

If you believe you can ask MuttleyLaff to show you in the Bible where God approves SSA relationship, but you don’t want someone like a.lBHAGDADI to ask you O.kCornel, to show him in the Bible where and when God no more approves tithe, then you O.kCornel, are a hypocrite. The hypocrite is the one who says don’t ask me that kind, type or line of question but then goes ahead to ask MuttleyLaff a line of question of similar format. SMH. You can never seem to trust anyone nowadays anymore.

My brother, you see now, if one trick doesnt work, why not pull another from the bag of tricks. He's seen that he has hit a brickwall, as its sunk in that I'll not cross that bridge until I come to it, so he's now licked his wounds and re-strategized with another ploy.

Wasnt it you Shepherd00 who said Rev what-is-his-name again, Turner or something is a christian for 34 years or something, with his lover hmmm? Archbishop Tutu's daughter, that we've talked about is a believer too. It relates with just as, soja come, soja go, barrack still dey.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 1:59am On Jun 21, 2019*

MuttleyLaff:
Trust TV01 to want to pull and put a spin on this one, it's hilarious. Well wait nau, let me come on proper in an hour to two time. Of course, they wallowed in sexual immorality, in the sense of, with idolatry, promiscuousity, cheating, sleeping around, infidelity, children abuse, temple prostituting etcetera, but the "gone after strange flesh" occurred after their death sentence or destruction was decided. Jesus even when at Matthew 10:14-15, He mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah, He did so, only at the opportunity to highlight the importance of friendliness, being welcoming and hospitable, just like Ezekiel said, were Sodom and Gomorrah's problems.

TV01, Sodom and Gomorrah only went after strange flesh after they were doomed to be destroyed, not and never before. Read your Bible correctly and properly please. You out of all people, chau!.

Shepherd00:
@Bolded.
These are the kind of things you say that when pursuit after, you get tight up in robes.

What you are saying here in essence is that, Sodom and Gomorrah were not into homosexual practice until God determined to destroy them? In other words, their actions that night was their first attempt as a protest against God?

If your answer is Yes, then, they knew that God hated homosexuality hence did it to spite Him?

How did they Know about the impending destruction?

Were they like Nineveh warned but remained obstinate?

Who was sent to inform them, because the Bible didn't mention that the people of Sodom were warned.

Be-that-as-it-may, the Sodomites and Gomorrahites went after Strange flesh full force in protest against God warning, does this not tell you that they knew that homosexuality was a grave wickedness and a sin against God?

I keep telling you, that you are a bible illiterate, you dont properly read your Bible, you dont read it well enough and you hardly brush your Bible up, this is why you are suffering from all these appalling truth decay. Please don't take this the wrong way or take offence, I said all that, humbly with love because if you know Sodom and Gomorrah of Genesis 14, you would accept and agree that it shouldn't need to find itself where it found itself in Genesis 19, to be destroyed, especially after how God earlier, liberated it from the clutches of prolonged cruelty or unjust treatment. SMH, you guys, especially you Shepherd00, I thank God for the gift of grace because sometimes I feel like wringing somebody's...

TV01:
Thank you! sir

I've not been chanced to reply, but those are exactly the right questions to that inordinate stretching and warping of the biblical narrative. I shook my head so tey. I could scarce believe what I was reading

Some of MuttleyLaffs claims are a cause for real consternation. A clear sign that this is about forcing gayhomosex into the Christian culture at all costs and nothing to do with Christian truth. . Sackcloth and ashes with great lamentation sef .

TV

Has anyone put a gun to another's head to become a SSA person? Has anyone reported that he or she has been approched and proselytized to become a SSA person? SMH. Mtchew.

Many posters don’t seem to know this though, but you can read something you disagree with on the Religion forum and easily just move on with your life nau.

Shepherd00:
To think that he even quoted Matt 10:14-15 which has no bearing with the issue at hand. SMH.

Both of you TV01 and Shepherd00 are a case and a half. You both just unneccesarily enjoy sucking up to each other sha. It is an observation, not to be taken as insulting.
Now please explain to me what according to your understanding what strange flesh specifically means or meant in that passage, will you, hmmm?

I'll wait for who is going to be brave enough to have a first go, before I continue, as Shepherd00 doesnt like long posts

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 1:42am On Jun 21, 2019*

Shepherd00:
The Bible is very clear on those sins, just like it is on homosexuality. Besides, no fornicator, adulterer, prostitute, incestuous, or polygamist is out there screaming that God created them with those tendencies. They are not rummaging through the Holy Rid with spyglasses looking for scriptures that remotely hints that their sins could be put on God. I see only homosexuals.

I havent finished typing responding to all your outstanding questions nau brother, but if you want us to park here, no problem.

Exactly the point Shepherdoo, they cant, because the Bible like you succintly put is CLEAR on those sins, unlike homosexuality, which the Bible never said anything about committed, faithful, caring, kind, love until death do part SSA relationships being wrong, bad or evil. It is a lie, SSA persons arent looking through the Holy Rid with spyglasses looking for scriptures that remotely hints that their sins, because they already know no such scriptures exists. Suck it up man, give it a rest biko.

If it is adult consenting, as in, everyone is of age, its a committed, faithful, caring, kind, love until death do part SSA relationship and doesn’t involve a minor, kids or an animal, then God has no problem with it.

Shepherd00:
You added 'And female customers, for good measure, since you know that no woman who seeks to sleep with a man will be attracted to a male dressed as a female. You can't bring yourself to say that these men dress this way to attract homosexual men abi? Well, that is what they were, men who are out to have other men bend them over.

SMH, omo, you are so-so green and naive. Nwanne their services are for both male and female patrons, this is what transpired in Rome and Corith. In today's modern times, it is happening in India.

Shepherd00:
DISGUSTING

You might be the first to tell me because no one, not even bigshots, like TV01, elated177, jesusjnr, Ranchhoddas, ThothHermes, shadeyinka, alBHAGDADI, ujnwachukwu, solite3, bloodofthelamb, OLAADEGBU, Bejusttoall have been able to muster courage to tell me what specifically is disgusting about and in a committed, faithful, caring, kind, love until death do part SSA relationships

Shepherd00:
What am I to do with all these?

Its a fyi, an instagram video clip idea of who and what a "malakoi/malakos" looks like, when they are prettied up with powder on face and jewelries etcetera on. Are they scaring looking to you, is that why you ask

Shepherd00:
Can we call a spade, a spade and not a gardening tool for once?

My sentiment too, lets not call a spade a fork anymore

Shepherd00:
MuttleyLaff. Men who have sex with other men are called what?

They are called SSA persons

Shepherd00:
You keep talking about the location where these things are done, but I'm asking you the name of the Act.

It depends Shepherd00, it could be an act involving prostituting, cheating, lying, sleeping around, hurting someone, forcibly having carnal knowledge with someone against their will, having carnal knowledge without consent, the list goes on.

Shepherd00:
The Act mentioned in Genesis 19 and Judges 19 where men attempted to have sex with other men, is called what?

Genesis 19 is attempted gang rape of men act and Judges 19 is attempted gang rape of a man act

Shepherd00:
Give THAT ACT A MAN.

I dont understand what you mean by this line

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 12:50am On Jun 21, 2019*

Shepherd00:
So this thread ends here? MuttleyLaff, the only thing I saw you trying to do was to use terms like porneia , arsenokoites , and malakoi/malakos to distract people from the ACT of homosexuality.

If the words were changed, did the act change?

Oh Well! I may just be talking to myself here, as you have disappeared from your own thread.

Shepherd00, when the Bible is talking of adultery, fornication, incest, polygamy or whatnot it isnt talking against the ACT of sexual intercourse, nor is it distracting anyone from the ACT of sexual intercourse. In the same manner Shepherd00, porneia, arsenokoites , and malakoi/malakos isnt talking of the act of homosexuality per se, but is touching and talking of the abuse of the act, like the cruelty or violence of the act, like using the act to bad effect, for a bad reason, purpose or misuse to cheat, be unfaithful, etcetera

Shepherd00, porneia has to do with prostituing, arsenokoites has to do with prostituing, as well as, sleeping around, having casual sex and/or having multiple partners, and as for malakoi/malakos, I have previously said that one of the original meanings of "malakoi/malakos" in the first century was, it being an effeminate man who pretties himself with daily shaving of the face in the Greek manner, using makeup, hair coloring, putting on jewelleries and fancy clothing to attract male & female customer with whom to have sex.

Click here for or to see: clip idea of who and what a "malakoi/malakos" looks like
Shepherd00, about this same malakoi/malakos, I also previously gave the above instagram link. It shows the nomadic Wodaabe community belonging to the Fulani ethnic group in Naija, with make-up on, though they are not into temple ritual sex etcetera, I did say that, India is the last bastion of where this temple ritual sex with temple male prostitutes cum malakoi/malakos etcetera practised by the Canaanites in Leviticus times and by the heathen gentiles in Paul's Rome and Corinth times, is to date, still done in the 21st century. They are not called "arsenokoites" or sodomites in India, but are called by another word vernacular native to their way of speaking or particular to that area's lingo

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 12:07am On Jun 21, 2019*

Shepherd00:
So this thread ends here? MuttleyLaff, the only thing I saw you trying to do was to use terms like [b]porneia , arsenokoites , and malakoi/malakos to distract people from the ACT of homosexuality.

If the words were changed, did the act change?

Oh Well! I may just be talking to myself here, as you have disappeared from your own thread.

Shepherd00:
Why do leave the bone of the issue to dwell on terms?

Muttleylaff, let's talk about 'The Act of men having sex with fellow men'. Whether at home or in pagan temples.

You keep saying Paul's usage of the term is related to the temple Prostitution.

I want us to concentrate on the Act for a while not the terms or the languages used to describe the term.

Shepherd00:
Lol. You opened a thread to sell lies from GayChristians101 website. we stand with scriptures not people who dodge the Act but try to swam the whole things with terms.

So, far I have dropped the same questions in two different threads, yet you ignore them?

MuttleyLaff:
Trust TV01 to want to pull and put a spin on this one, it's hilarious. Well wait nau, let me come on proper in an hour to two time. Of course, they wallowed in sexual immorality, in the sense of, with idolatry, promiscuousity, cheating, sleeping around, infidelity, children abuse, temple prostituting etcetera, but the "gone after strange flesh" occurred after their death sentence or destruction was decided. Jesus even when at Matthew 10:14-15, He mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah, He did so, only at the opportunity to highlight the importance of friendliness, being welcoming and hospitable, just like Ezekiel said, were Sodom and Gomorrah's problems.

TV01, Sodom and Gomorrah only went after strange flesh after they were doomed to be destroyed, not and never before. Read your Bible correctly and properly please. You out of all people, chau!.

Shepherd00:
@Bolded.
These are the kind of things you say that when pursuit after, you get tight up in robes.

What you are saying here in essence is that, Sodom and Gomorrah were not into homosexual practice until God determined to destroy them? In other words, their actions that night was their first attempt as a protest against God?

If your answer is Yes, then, they knew that God hated homosexuality hence did it to spite Him?

How did they Know about the impending destruction?

Were they like Nineveh warned but remained obstinate?

Who was sent to inform them, because the Bible didn't mention that the people of Sodom were warned.

Be-that-as-it-may, the Sodomites and Gomorrahites went after Strange flesh full force in protest against God warning, does this not tell you

Shepherd00 will you already just calm down please. I am going to do this in short bursts because I've realised that you dont like reading long posts. You always gung-ho reply to all my post's comments, especially any that borders on the subject or issue of homosexuality, SSA people or SSA acts, you especially do this , I know from lack of understanding, due from your level of awareness and the perception from where or how you see things. Awareness, is a mental and spiritual thing, but you respond and "attack" my posts on this subject, with unnecessary and additional emotional, irrational, not based on any good reasons, false religious flavorings.

Shepherd00, a drowning man will clutch at any available straw in sight. You Shepherd00, when, out of control and not getting things together, like to begin and start clutching at straws.

Case in point #1, at 7:33pm On June 17, 2019, here is you typing: "This is the homosexual site where you copy and paste from. By all mean they try to pervert the Word of God to suit them. Rev. M.Turner is a gay pastor whose gay partner is Bill and has been together for 37yrs and got recently married."

I responded to "Case in point #1" and you, with: "Shepherd00, have you got evidence or proof of me copying the contents from that site or any other sites for that matter. Be careful how you slander a moG. I've warned you before, please take heed of the warning, I beg you. I wont say more than that."

Case in point #2, at 3:15pm On Jun 18, you typed, accusing me of plagiarism again, saying I've been presenting someone else's work and ideas as my own, that I've been stealing another author's publication(s):"Pls MuttleyLaff don't lie. When you crashed into my thread claiming God was not against homosexuality, I asked you for scriptural backings to your claims. You threw in what you copied from 'www.gaychristians101. The 'Loving, faithful, consensual SSR,s. That led us to VBCampaign's thread where TV01 demanded the same from you."

Case point#3, today almost two hours ago at 8:49pm, you laughed and thrice reinforced a lie to slander me again by typing: "You opened a thread to sell lies from GayChristians101 website. We stand with scriptures not people who dodge the Act but try to swam the whole things with terms."

Shepherd00, for the record, and I reiterate, I dont know who Rev. M.Turner is, I have never, before until you mentioned him, heard of him and I have never, even up till now, ever visited his website.

Number two for the record, I only visited GayChristians101 website, just after elated177 mentioned and pasted the website, for all to see and typed at 8:51pm On May 27 2019, this about me:The research that babbler has been babbling all over the place are the heresies he lifted from that heretical site, gaychristain101. After the elated177 mention of the site and upon visiting it, I found the site and its content to be a coincidence and remarkable that great minds think alike, whereas "average & small" minds unfortunately all along and together, have been too, on this thread

Now I'll let you on why I was hiatus during the recent brouhaha and that's what it was, just as TV01 so perfectly put it, really was a noisy and overexcited activities thing going on. I discovered and its from learned observations, that if you keep your mouth shut, be quiet and still, people soon will show their true colors unintentionally, they begin to feel freer and freer to tell anything, begin to misyarn, begin to talk rubbish, talk trash, talk wrong things and become anxious to show themselves up.

I wanted to see true colours of posters, so far commenting on this thread, so I just went silent, waiting in the background, watching behind curtains and paying attention to every single noise made. It paid off, as I got to see the true colors of everyone, each exposed themselves for who they really are, fakes and real ones, good at being fakes too revealed themselves.

It is funny and bizarre that lots of posters are taking a ride with me in this my limo, but what I really want, are posters to deconstruct with me, not those asking me vacuous and off the beaten path questions

I have low tolerance for hypocrites like O.kCornel because when a.lBHAGDADI asks O.kCornel to show him Bible verse of God explicitly disapproving tithe, O.kCornel can’t and refuses to, so I find it hilarious how O.kCornel is now asking for Bible verse of God explicitly approving SSA relationship from me. It is downright comical O.kCornel can’t see what a hypocrite he O.kCornel is, for him, of all people, having the audacity to ask that off the beaten path question and try to use that type of line of questioning, with me, especially when unlike me, is unable to ever oblige a.lBHAGDADI. I have said it many times, that even though, the question is easily responded to many times over, I will not cross that bridge, before I myself come to it, but it just falls on deaf ears.

Hypocrite(s) is more dangerous than a liar and dishonest person, a dishonest person deceives and cheat, but a hypocrite betrays and swindles.
Sincerity is an openness of heart, it is found in very few people. What an insincere individual of a person O.kCornel is. I am sorry, I had him mistaken.

Hypocrisy is the mother of all evil. Sexual orientation discrimination and homophobia are still her favourite children. Jesus Christ hated the hypocrites and warned against hypocrisy. He, in Matthew 23:13-35, "cursed" hypocrites seven times. Mtcheew. I pray the "curse" wont be any poster on this thread portion's.

Fyi, as previously stated I am using "O.kCornel", because I dont want to give him notice formally or officially, of this comment.

This post seems to be ending up going to be too long for your liking Shepherd00, so I'll pause here to continue on another post, as I have read yet another of your typical shooting from the hip comments, this latest one, is you, responding to TV01 comment, and at which you typed: "To think that he even quoted Matt 10:14-15 which has no bearing with the issue at hand. SMH." but my brother, you that if I should start to continue to type, this post no go end ooo and you no go fit read am to the end finish.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 8:50pm On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
Lol... no thanks...

All right, suit yourself but don't pretend you would have done any better and besides, you dont know what you're missing.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 8:46pm On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
Muttley had a life changing discussion with a rat...

Nice stuff you must be smoking there...

Yup, you should try it too

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 8:39pm On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
People are leaving homosexual and lesbian lifestyles behind,

Don't be deceived;

Do People Change from Homosexuality? Hundreds of Stories of Hope and Transformation (Part I)

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/sexuality/freedom-from-homosexuality/do-people-change-from-homosexuality-hundreds-of-stories-of-hope-and-transformation-part-1

http://www.bridgingthegapsministries.org/christianity-today-article/

I'm patiently waiting for someone to debunk all these testimonies as lies...

First of all, I want to thank God for the gift of life to each and everyone of us that has read every single post on this thread and have also read all the immediate above by O.kCornel, even though it is a derailment of some sort. Fyi, I am using "O.kCornel", because I dont want to give him notice formally or officially, of this comment.

So, I was reading each and everything in that immediate above O.kCornel post and then a rat that has been disturbing us in the house, came to join me in reading it. It became emotional as it was reading alongside me and began starting with misty eyes before crying, it cried with water streaming down its face, then it snugged closer to me, held me tight and started to hug me. I reciprocate and so hugged it back. Then it said, "MuttleyLaff, wow cool post, life changing post, your life will never be the same this post just changed my life. Something must keel a man and a rat. I won't disturb you anymore MuttleyLaff."

Christianity Etc › Re: Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, And A "Man Who Lies With A Man" by MuttleyLaff: 5:14pm On Jun 20, 2019

Aaronsrod:
Let a picture paint where words cannot.
So shall it be done unto them!
Behold!

One word will do. Psycho.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 3:00pm On Jun 20, 2019*

TV01:
The attempted gang rape would have just been another instance in a long line of such sexually immoral sin/s. Evidenced by Jude;

Jude 1:7 - as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

TV

Trust TV01 to want to pull and put a spin on this one, it's hilarious. Well wait nau, let me come on proper in an hour to two time. Of course, they wallowed in sexual immorality, in the sense of, with idolatry, promiscuousity, cheating, sleeping around, infidelity, children abuse, temple prostituting etcetera, but the "gone after strange flesh" occurred after their death sentence or destruction was decided. Jesus even when at Matthew 10:14-15, He mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah, He did so, only at the opportunity to highlight the importance of friendliness, being welcoming and hospitable, just like Ezekiel said, were Sodom and Gomorrah's problems.

TV01, Sodom and Gomorrah only went after strange flesh after they were doomed to be destroyed, not and never before. Read your Bible correctly and properly please. You out of all people, chau!.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 1:38pm On Jun 20, 2019

Shepherd00:
Can we not make this about Tithing? @ MuttleyLaff pls.

Nobody is. Nobody is interested in tithing, not me at least. My point has been made, if anyone likes let them drag it on as if we are talking of tithes.

Shepherd00:
Pls don't respond to any post about Tithing or he will systematically veer us off track.

You must have just woken up to know about veering off track of the thread's subject title heading. Upon all the veering off track you guys have been doing and that I hadn't minded but still accommodated youse.

Christianity Etc › Re: Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, And A "Man Who Lies With A Man" by MuttleyLaff: 12:51pm On Jun 20, 2019

Aaronsrod:
Blades, rope, fists, boots, drowning, defenestration, whips, fire, forced feeding to death, a weight of stones all a man can bear...and more, burial alive, introducing insects. All these and many more are pathways to Hell for homosexuals.

I'm available to demonstrate.

Virgin for Hire!

Please repeat this, but this type used simple plain and understandable English. Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 12:49pm On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
Ogbeni, you just told a barefaced lie that I don't ask alBHGADADI questions in the manner I'm asking you right now...or do you want to deny what you just mentioned a few minutes ago?

Meaning all those involved in bestiality are raping the animals isn't it? Why not do a little research to cure yourself of this ignorance per the question you just asked? Or Peter Singer (a bestiality advocate) can help you better on your question.

So digusting... tueh tueh

I just told you how God despises the act of homosexuality. Even the Angels did not do anything when Lot offered his virgin daughters to be raped! When those men insisted on having sex with the Angels, that was when the Angels reacted...

What is your problem, what eating away at you, huh? I am telling you, there was a type of line of questioning a.lBAGHDADI asked you and it was concerning tithe, that you didn't oblige him, but you are trying that sort of questioning with me. Unfortunately for you, I can easily answer, but like I said, I won't until I come to that bridge. You don't like that response, so why your sulking

Now forget the attempted gang rape of those angel, tell me was Sodom and Gomorrah not already planned to be destroyed by God or not, hmm?

So what is the poxy research to do about now, when the Bible explicitly has condemned bestiality, see me see wahala with this guy ooo.

God despises homosexuality that has to do with idolatry, promiscuousity, cheating, sleeping around, infidelity, children abuse, temple prostituting etcetera. Abeggy go siddon yourself put for corner, make better pesin join, come talk jaare.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 12:20pm On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
Stop telling lies Mr. Muttley. There are numerous instances of me asking alBHAGDADI questions in this manner, and you liked those posts!

Now that the tables are turned on you, you are here wailing and lying.

What happened in Sodom clearly shows God is against homosexuality. Did you even notice that Lot offered his virgin daughters to be raped? Nothing happened until the men insisted on having sex with those Angels!

What's the question again? Where Jesus or God disapproved homosexuality?

You are describing yourself aptly...

From the very beginning, God's plan has been male/female relationship, where did He modify this to approve same sex relationship?

If you can't answer my questions, you have an L-sign tatooed to your forehead...

Another time will come where someone else will say God is not against consensual bestiality "per se" , that only bestiality practiced in temples is an abominable act... It's from all this homosexual madness this thing will spring up from for silly people to defend their illogical and illicit desires...

If at all, I like any post, did I give you the reason why I liked them, hmm? I've yours and his posts in the past. I don't discriminate, I like posts on points made, whether I agree or not agree with posters.

I've already told you that you are boring me, now you are trying too hard to act daft. Please tell me can animals give anyone consent. SMH. Tell me, what was Sodom and Gomorrah fault when God earlier told Abraham He wants to destroy the city, even before the city's men unfriendly wicked and cruel act of attempted gang rape of visiting angels that had the appearance of men, huh?

You just hang about for me being active proper in the PM today on this thread

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 11:43am On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
Then remind us who started the whole tithe matter on this thread. Why do you lie so shamelessly? Mention al.BHAGDADI from now till infinity, it will not help you...

What can be more hypocritical than claiming you have scriptures to show support of same sex relationship, only to be exposed for your lies?

Just to show how predictable you are, you have stylishly shifted from the questions I've asked you to "my type of questioning" and mention al.BHAGDADI to see how he can continue from where you stopped. There's no hiding place for you on this very matter...

Says the man that cannot answer my questions on this thread. Look at who is saying I'm buckling under pressure...

If the words of Jesus in Matthew 19 or the matter that transpired in Sodom doesn't show you God's outright disapproval of same sex relationship, then you really need help.

Later, you'll ask us where Jesus disapproved of bestiality or smoking of weed...

I mentioned al.BHAGDADI because I know it will, if you are being honest, jolt your memory, that the type of questioning you are using on me, you never obliged al.BHAGDADI when he was wrestling with you over tithes and he asked you for when and where in the Bible is tithe stopped. I didn't see you give him an answer to that question, or did you?

You are beginning to bore me, oh how I misestimated you, thought you have spunk, didn't know you'll become a complete let down. I'll spill the rest of the beans on you when I am back active in the mid PM today.

You didn't read the memo, that is why you are mentioning Sodom over your misconstrued understanding of what happened, like as if I haven't explained that.

You can't even read properly, I said you'll buckle under pressure if I am to switch on its head that poxy question to you. I didn't anywhere or any way, say you are nicking under pressure.

Bestiality explicitly is condemned in the Bible, paedophilia, sexual interest in prepubescent children is explicitly frowned upon in the Bible. Herbs are ordained by God to use. Get off and out my limo, you are a learner, you should have a L-plate stuck on your forehead.

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 11:07am On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
You think by mentioning alBHAGDADI countless times on this thread to derail it into another tithe debate for you to escape from my questions will help you?

Dude, I see through your moves!

You claimed I've been asked where tithing was abolished, I mentioned the issue is HOW THE TITHING IS DONE, which is monetary and not in line with God's instruction on how tithing should be done!

Muttley, try harder with another diversion. I am still awaiting answers to my questions...

UNLESS YOU ARE TELLING US THERE IS NO SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE SHOWING GOD'S APPROVAL OF SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP... then I rest my case here...

Neither alBHAGDADI or I are interested in this tithe thing you put on head like a shrimp, just the way you are putting this poxy hypocritical line of questioning you are bent of sticking to.

You cant see past your nose, talkess see my moves, your problem, is you are hopeless without insisting on this your hypocritical line or type of questioning. You have no other options apart from that to advance your case and position

You will buckle under pressure, if I were to switch this same question on you. The sad part is responding to your question is dead easy, but I mentioned it several times that I would not cross that bridge with you, except when I come to it, but all you do, is stick your fingers in your ears and shut your eyes close to it.

Why you are looking for an exit strategy to rest your case, when there is evidence of Jesus not disapproving of SSA relationship, I don't know. Too many Bible illiterates and Christians who don't brush up their Bibles about SMH

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 10:36am On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
The matter of tithe is overflogged, done and dusted.

You of all people know very well that the issue is monetary tithing which does not align to the way God instructed tithing to be done.

Now I'm asking you where God approved of male/male or female/female relationship which contravenes his original plan of male/female relationship and you're shamelessly hiding behind tithing...

Stop beating around the bush and answer my questions...

Don't tell me what and all I know about tithing. Please what I am telling you is that, the line and type of questionings you wouldn't accommodate or let alBHAGDADI try on you, don't for a second ever contemplate trying it with me. This sort of where approved, disprove, discontinued question you never obliged when you were asked. You are an insincere, dishonest and shameless person if you persist in this unfair way and manner

It isn't tithing thats of interest here, but it is your inconsistency and not being principled, your one rule for others, but another for you, your laughable and hypocritical stance

Christianity Etc › Re: Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, And A "Man Who Lies With A Man" by MuttleyLaff: 10:05am On Jun 20, 2019

Aaronsrod:
I have already declared my lifelong steadfast virginity.

I eschew all shellfish!

Also, I do not use mere stones to fulfill this scriptures. There are many, many ways to shed blood.

It is well.

OK, here is another one, why haven't you yet gouge out your eyes when you sin (i.e. Matthew 5:29) hmm? Or here is a good one, why don't you stone non-virgins (i.e. Deuteronomy 22:20-21) ehn? I bet you, most posters and their missus(es) on this thread including yourself and HRH, your madam weren't virgins. Or you really are a virgin ehn? For life hmm?

Ah, never mind, I've got more, plenty sef. Why do you wear clothing woven of two kinds of material (i.e. Leviticus 19:19) hey? Why do you eat catfish that has no fins and scales and other sea foods, like lobsters, crabs, shrimps etcetera (i.e. Leviticus 9:10) erh? Or why don't you give your other belongings, when you are sued in court (i.e. Matthew 5:40)

What are these many ways to shed blood that you are talking about,erh, enlighten everyone please. Thank you very much.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, And A "Man Who Lies With A Man" by MuttleyLaff: 9:50am On Jun 20, 2019

Shepherd00:
Why do leave the bone of the issue to dwell on terms?

Muttleylaff, let's talk about 'The Act of men having sex with fellow men'. Whether at home or in pagan temples.

You keep saying Paul's usage of the term is related to the temple Prostitution.

I want us to concentrate on the Act for a while not the terms or the languages used to describe the term.

If you are really serious about all this, and prepared not to leave my questions unanswered when I ask you, of course, go ahead, ask me on the "Deconstructing lies and myth..." thread then. I'll be active there in the PM today

Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 9:43am On Jun 20, 2019

OkCornel:
Still desperately calling alBHAGDADI for support? I guess he's smart enough not to be used as your pawn to dodge the questions below...well unless I'm overestimating his level of intelligence...

When are you going to answer the questions you are dodging from?

1) Those that turned away from homosexuality and lesbianism after encountering Jesus, are their testimonies lies?

2) Show us examples of God supporting same sex relationship in the scriptures...one or two same sex marriage as examples...

3) Jesus said in Matthew 19 "in the beginning, God created them male and female, and for this reason, a man shall leave his father and mother, and cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh"

Based on the above;

a) Where did God modify this to include a male/male relationship or a female/female relationship?

b) When are you going to show us where in the scriptures examples of same sex relationship approved by God?

c) In a same sex relationship, who is the husband and who is the wife? After all, this is straightforward to identify in a male/female relationship...

I know you have the intelligence to know that no one, not a single poster I have cc'ed supports me when it comes to this issue of homosexuality, almost all are against it for misleading religious reasons obviously, whilst one or two are indifferent or just sits on the fence. AlBHAGDADI is just showing you up for what you really are, which I agree to and know, know that you are a hypocrite, what you wouldn't allow done to you, you don't mind trying it on some one else. That's a height of hypocrisy my brother. I can manage fighting battles myself, I don't need anyone's support, especially if with God on my side. I am a born warrior.

Wait for me, when I become active on this thread in the PM. Stop asking me kinds of question you wouldn't and couldn't oblige alBHAGDADI, when he was asking you similar line and tone of questions pertaining to tithes. Your other valid questions, I will respond to effectively in the PM, so watch this space.

Christianity Etc › Re: Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, And A "Man Who Lies With A Man" by MuttleyLaff: 9:11am On Jun 20, 2019

Aaronsrod:
God's Law is clear and unchanging.

We must kill them. "Their blood shall be upon them"!

Why would any Christian question this command

MuttleyLaff:
Let me quickly first ask you about what the scripture says in Leviticus 20:13, as shown as follows: "IIf a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

Do you notice the Leviticus 20:13b part there, hmm? Have you been man enough to be literal, thrown stones yet to kill homosexuals, hmm? Oh no, your balls suddenly have shrivelled up at the prospect of you needing to be a literalist huh? Whats your excuse for having not to stone to death your homosexual neighbour, a fellow man, human being like you now, huh? I think for you, it seems like a good and right time to cherrypick parts of scripture, isnt it, hey?

OK, here is another one, why haven't you yet gouge out your eyes when you sin (i.e. Matthew 5:29) hmm? Or here is a good one, why don't you stone non-virgins (i.e. Deuteronomy 22:20-21) ehn? I bet you, most posters and their missus(es) on this thread including yourself and HRH, your madam weren't virgins. What happened to being a literalist there, ehn?

Ah, I've got more, plenty sef. Why do you wear clothing woven of two kinds of material (i.e. Leviticus 19:19) hey? Why do you eat catfish that has no fins and scales and other sea foods, like lobsters, crabs, shrimps etcetera (i.e. Leviticus 9:10) erh? Or why don't you give your other belongings, when you are sued in court (i.e. Matthew 5:40)

Cheyyyii!! You be confirmed and bonafide literalist indeed. You arent a literalist, as you dont literally follow the bible, you only follow and use the Bible, like a "far-to-see" Pharisee, to attack harmless, caring, loving, minding their own business minorities.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, And A "Man Who Lies With A Man" by MuttleyLaff: 8:31am On Jun 20, 2019

OLAADEGBU:
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"

What does Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 teach about homosexuality, and how does that apply to us as New Testament believers?

https://carm.org/leviticus-18-22

OkCornel:
Cc:

https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/17#79433409

MuttleyLaff:
It is glaring that you dont know the truth, you dont know the truth of Leviticus 18:22 and leviticus 20:13.

If I am to ask you, to give the rationale for Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13, and explain why and how the term abomination that appear in Leviticus 18:22 is to God, you will be chomping teeth and either run and/or take flight.

I am quite sure, you dont know that abomination iin the Bible is relative. I tell you have no idea, you have zero inches long knowledge on this subject
Who created shrimps elated177? "Ko le ye ẹ" loosely interpreted means "You cant fathom nor work out that question"

Do you know the meaning of Grace? It’s a touch of truth that lets you see the world in a new way. It’s a gift that can only be felt when you’re open enough to accept it. Old ways dont open new doors, and grace is like deodorant, people who need it most, never use it.

MuttleyLaff:
Lets start with deconstructing those first before grabbing and/or holding on to Leviticus 18:22, or its sister verse Leviticus 20:13, to explain, what they really mean, why and how the term abomination that appears in them is so to God. Romans 1:26-27, too is up for grabs as well, we can check it together and find out, what contextually that scripture is about OkCornel. Other passages are fair game, I am wiling to stand alongside you, reviewing them together

MuttleyLaff:
Everything thing, I write, can be fact checked, if only the will is there and if you don't hate reading long posts too, like some have openly admitted.

When you serve people with food in groundnut pods, those that will eat and have their fill, like kkins25 did, will be there, but people like.... hmmm.

kkins25, don't stop here, but please research on what really Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is all about and why the reason, it is an abomination. If ambitious, then, delve into similar verses Paul wrote, to find the true and original meanings of the words used, that have since being changed and have false misleading meanings.

MuttleyLaff:
The Amorites are mentioned in the Bible as inhabitants of Canaan both before and after the conquest of the land, now God, in, Deuteronomy 12:31 said: "You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshipping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates" and Leviticus 18 gives details of many of the sinful religious practices of the Canaanites, which included child sacrifice to the god Molech, incest, bestiality, being kadesh or qadesh (i.e. which is temple prostitute and a form of homosexuality) and cultic prostitution, I have earlier, talked about why God was against the Amorites, I've talked about why Sodom and Gomorrah was planned to be destroyed, even before their attempted homosexual gang rape intention of visitor angels to the town, but all you want from me, is to cut everything up in small piece sizes, prise your mouth open and spoon feed you. Maybe I should come you tuck into bed too tonight. What time do you sleep at night, so I'll come do just that for you too, hmm?

MuttleyLaff:
Let me quickly first ask you about what the scripture says in Leviticus 20:13, as shown as follows: "If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

Do you notice the Leviticus 20:13b part there, hmm? Have you been man enough to be literal, thrown stones yet to kill homosexuals, hmm? Oh no, your balls suddenly have shrivelled up at the prospect of you needing to be a literalist huh? Whats your excuse for having not to stone to death your homosexual neighbour, a fellow man, human being like you now, huh? I think for you, it seems like a good and right time to cherrypick parts of scripture, isnt it, hey?

OK, here is another one, why haven't you yet gouge out your eyes when you sin (i.e. Matthew 5:29) hmm? Or here is a good one, why don't you stone non-virgins (i.e. Deuteronomy 22:20-21) ehn? I bet you, most posters and their missus(es) on this thread including yourself and HRH, your madam weren't virgins. What happened to being a literalist there, ehn?

Ah, I've got more, plenty sef. Why do you wear clothing woven of two kinds of material (i.e. Leviticus 19:19) hey? Why do you eat catfish that has no fins and scales and other sea foods, like lobsters, crabs, shrimps etcetera (i.e. Leviticus 9:10) erh? Or why don't you give your other belongings, when you are sued in court (i.e. Matthew 5:40)

Cheyyyii!! You be confirmed and bonafide literalist indeed. You arent a literalist, as you dont literally follow the bible, you only follow and use the Bible, like a "far-to-see" Pharisee, to attack harmless, caring, loving, minding their own business minorities.

MuttleyLaff:
bloodofthelamb, I know you highly respect and hold in the utmost regard Pastor John MacArthur. Well guess what, Pastor John MacArthur, accepts and agrees with me, that the context of Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20, when talking about the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 contents, has nothing to do with homosexuals per se, had nothing to do with acts going on between consensual adult in homosexuality, or homosexuals/lesbians and/or same sex attraction and union(s), especially one that is in, a kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, not harmful and committed life long until death do them part relationships. He in fact, admits and concedes that, they are all what I said, it is and they are, in that my lengthy 3-part long post bloodofthelamb. I am sorry, bloodofthelamb, for being the one telling you this also, but Pastor John MacArthur, on record, actually too, admits that the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9 was temple prostitution and had nothing to do with homosexual acts per se.

Along the way bloodofthelamb, have you caught up with the latest news that happened earlier this week erh? That the pope, is pushing to have part of the word(s) in Matthew 6:9-13 Lord's Prayer in the Bible changed?

So too, Pastor John MacArthur changed his perspective on the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9 as temple prostitution matter, as well as, Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20, when talking about the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 content subject so much that he is now saying them verses are talking about idolatry and not homosexuality. Go investigate the issue, check whether or not Pastor John MacArthur said this, in order to verify the facts. I dont do rumors nor share questionable information. Go fact check, go research everything I wrote, in that my lengthy 3-part long post, in order to verify the facts

MuttleyLaff:
now, the $64,000 question is, stating clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, what correctly, in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, is the committed abomination that was being done before God, hmm?
(i.e. what correctly and pato, in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, is the thing that was done, that God hates and/or detests?)

None of you guys, not even bigshot TV01, with all that his big chutzpah, ever answers those question(s)

MuttleyLaff:
What Paul was ranting about in Romans 1, 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 was the infidelity, promiscuity and the cult practice of having sex with patrons as a form of deity worship. This custom was rampant and happened in the Old Testament in the lands before the Israelites arrived too.

We all know leviticus 20:13 is leviticus 18:22 and vice versa, but not all, I mean the likes of TV01, Shepherd00, openmine, jesusjnr know or realise that, Paul actually re-echoed leviticus 20:13 and leviticus 18:22 with 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 and know that the problem Paul was addressing with Romans 1, 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 isnt and/or wasnt about same sex relationships with fidelity but it was something else entirely different to that, which has again reared its head with the Gentile

There is this strong common thread going through Leviticus 20:13, 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 and it ties them together but it eludes the most astute. Peoples perception of this matter isnt what they think and learned it to be.

So what is happening and/or what happened in Romans 1:25-28?
Well, for your information TV01, Sheherd00, openmine, solite3 and others, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, like I've probably already mentioned, but with a twist

Paul, with Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, is echoing what happened around when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given. He then added the twist (i.e. Romans 1:26b: ... for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature) which is, the women too, have joined to be participants in the ongoing "detestable customs practised". It essentially was like Deja Poo The feeling that Paul has "seen" and read this crap happen before way in the Canaan-Israelites days, but now in double force.

The remedy, the first step to realign, to shake off the lies, will be, for staters, to review 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9, and look into what "malakois" and "arsenokoites" really means. I strongly advise the likes of TV01, Shepherd00, openmine, jesusjnr etcetera to do just that, instead of opting to alternatively plastering their opinions and beliefs here, as opposed the truth and real meaning of those words.

The epiphany of what the "the detestable customs that were practiced" in Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 were, will sooner or later occur, after the reviews.

It is an insufferable practice for God to bear and that's why God voiced His disapproval over the detestable custom being practised

It is the only ONE reason, that this sexual sin, that this particular sexual immorality, is condemned as committing abomination unto God
whilst other sexual sins or other sexual immoralities like, adultery in Leviticus 20:10, incest in Leviticus 20:11-14 or bestiality in Leviticus 20:15, escape the mention to be condemned as an abomination unto God or as one thing, God dislikes intensely.

There are so many other places, in the bible about this satanic ritual, sex orgy and detestable custom being practised, a few case in points, like Deuteronomy 23:17 and 1 Kings 14:24, are mirror versions of Paul's 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10, where God, said, He so much, disliked intensely, the practice.

To those, getting very well tuned in to this frequency, there is evidence of homosexual(s), during Jesus times, building "church" for the Israelites. There is evidence of homosexual(s), during Jesus time seeking Him. There is evidence of Jesus engaging with homosexual(s) and not for a single moment minded or be bothered about that. Where is the evidence of Jesus objecting to adult consensual same sex couples having a romantic faithful caring and loving relationship until death do them apart etcetera, hmm?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff(op): 8:08am On Jun 20, 2019*

Shepherd00:
So this thread ends here? MuttleyLaff, the only thing I saw you trying to do was to use terms like porneia , arsenokoites , and malakoi/malakos to distract people from the ACT of homosexuality.

If the words were changed, did the act change?

Oh Well! I may just be talking to myself here, as you have disappeared from your own thread.

TV01:
Has MuttleyLaff used the recent brouhaha to make a clean getaway? . He was after all taking the mother of all NL beatdowns. No where to run, turn or hide, no one willing to ride shotgun - even sellswords .

One of his ruses is to find an interlocuter guilty of some imagined offence and subsequently refuse to answer questions or respond to posers. Perhaps he sees this as his chance. We shall see, or maybe we won't .

TV

Shepherd00:
The way I see it, We won't.

I'll be here on this thread today, active, in the PM.

alBHAGDADI, God bless you real good and thank you very much, for that your Patrick Vieira meme you used to show OkCornel hypocrisy monkey business was priceless. I am still laughing, I havent gotten over laughing, even now I am laughing all over again. It is beyond price and worth its weight in gold.

That smiling Patrick Vieira look captured the essence of satisfyingly watching OkCornel caught with hands in the cookie jar, and seeing evidence of biscuits crumbs left hanging all over his mouth corners.
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