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Gggg102:
also since the old testament is distinct from Christianity, Christians should no longer praise the deeds of David and Moses and Joshua...

they can't acknowledge the deeds of God in the old testament.

since what God did in old testament is inconsequential to Christians

and according to Okcornel, what God asked the Israelites to do is unrelated and has no effect on Christians.

Need to add your monicker or ID to the eristics sheet list
You're just grinding away randomly at anything other than the topic at hand.

Gggg102:
never saw this before.
all things are lawful...

I guess because you're a learner
Can even jump off tallest building in the world sef

Gggg102:
also Christians are free from mosaic law.
they can't condemn homosexuality.
someone should tell the pastors...

We hear you Jose. ROTBL

Gggg102:
your facepalms are useless now.

you now agree that you can't condemn Homosexuality, bestiality... since you are not under the law. maybe you should tell your pastors.

They might be in denial but trust me already know

Gggg102:
okcornel you are the only one left now

why don't you show how homosexuality (which can't be condemned since Christians are not under the law) is evil

Too much blood on the canvass, and it aint butterfly1on's or okcornel's
You're out of league with these two, whilst you're still alive, I strongly advise you to throw in the sponge

Gggg102:
you see, butterfly1on, okcornel

law of homosexuality, bestiality... is not binding on Christians. because Christians are not bound by the law.
except you want to say half of the law is binding

butterfly1on has already beaten you to the draw with 1st Corinthians 6:12
You are slow man

Gggg102:
are Christians required to be circumcised.

yes or no answer.

It doesnt matter, what matters is the circumsion of the heart, so No
but can be Yes, on medical and hygiene grounds, if interested

Gggg102:
so Christians are no longer under all of the law. including the law against homosexuality...

OkCornel:
Look beyond the Law to know whether homosexuality is good or evil...

Good and evil did not start with the Mosaic Law...

It started when man became conscious of it after eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil...

Man became like God...knowing what good and evil is... whether there was Mosaic Law or not, man knew what was good and evil just like God..

Gggg102:
Christians get circumcised out of free will,
if they want they can remain uncircumcised because they are no longer under the law.
so also they can practice bestiality, homosexuality, cross dressing because they are no longer under the law.

Yes they can.
They can with everything, but, note but with capital B
They can do anything but not everything and/or all things is/are profitable
What will profit a "christian", for sake of discussion, to practice bestiality?
The matter of bestiality sef is beyond the scope of this thread anyway, so...

alBHAGDADI:
You are free to exit this thread cos all you've done so far is to make claims which you haven't backed up with any form of argument

Those that watched the video, can see how unreliable your reporting on it was

alBHAGDADI:
Read your post once again, line by line and you will realize that there really isn't any need for me to continue arguing with you.
Why should I when you haven't addressed the Opening Post?

I am not an eristic, that and/or like, you are
I am not here for argument
I already posted that your epistle to Paxonel was unnecessary
I feel so sorry and concerned for those that believe that your biased and subjective video coverage of the interview
You read me, earlier typed that, I scratched my post and deleted to write on where Freeze got it wrong
because there is a lot more things he got right, than the two or more wrongs in the interview

You turned upside down, what Freeze in passing, said about blessing in the interview
You went gaga gung-ho, shooting from the hip, all guns blazing and went to make a meal out of it
Freeze, to you, can never say anything right. Freeze, to you, can never say the truth.
Freeze, to you, is antichrist and he is the antichrist
You're delusional, period.

alBHAGDADI:
Pls don't mention me again.

"Kini gbogbo palapala yi?"
loosely means
"what is all this nonsense about?"
I will mention you, till kingdom come, if necessary

Next time, if you cant be objective in an interview review, dont post about it and be maligning
It is becoming a habit of yours, so make this the last time you go for cheap shots
instead make it fair and balanced, give credit to whom credit is due and not make it one-sided

alBHAGDADI:
You can continue being deceived

Do you have a mirror?
Please repeat this remark, whilst looking into a mirror, to see who is continually being deceived

alBHAGDADI:
But as long as you can't counter my points using the Bible and sound reason

I would counter, raised to the nth power every single point and unsound reason, you manage to assemble and/or bring up

alBHAGDADI:
you have no right to try to force me to accept that Freeze is right

Just because you're smug doesnt give you the right, to write that Freeze is rubbish and/or what Freeze posited is worthless

alBHAGDADI:
So please stop mentioning me unless you have an intelligent debate.

Wrong thing to type.
The arrogance of an "intellectual" delighting in his own ignorance
You? Who doesnt have stamina, wants to engage in an intelligient debate. Pfft.
Let me clarify. Please bring it on!
Lets have the discussion
I trust you, you dare not, because you know, you'll fall flat on your face and get caught flat footed

alBHAGDADI:
Na wah for you o

@Bold I don't think I need to continue arguing with you cos you've exhibited tendencies of some who knows nothing about the Bible, about Christianity and about God. How can you ask if spirits reason? It shows you know nothing. The Bible passages below explains that for you. First passage tells us that God is Spirit, while the second passage shows him telling us to come and reason with him.

John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Can everyone now see how Freeze has been able to deceive so many like this one? He has taken advantage of their lack of being grounded Biblically and has used it to blindfold them. That is why this guy is defending his errors with error statements.

As for your talk of Joseph ending up in Egypt not being spiritual, I see such talk as an attempt to rubbish my write up. It makes no sense especially when you do not back it up using the Bible. I stand on the grounds that his journey to Egypt was more spiritual than physical. God already spoke of such to Joseph's great grandfather, Abraham.

Genesis 15:12-13
12 As the sun was setting, Abram fell into a deep sleep, and a thick and dreadful darkness came over him.
13 Then the Lord said to him, “Know for certain that for four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there.

Guess what? The Israelites ended up in Egypt as slaves.

Na wah for you o

You expect all the livestock and servants to remain when the whole land was suffering from a famine that lasted 7 years? Which grass will the livestock eat? Is 7 years not more than enough for Jacob, his wives, many sons and daughters, and his servants to squander the livestock which must have been growing thin and ready to die of starvation? Or don't you know what famine is? I'm even surprised that you doubt if they actually had livestock. Is it not recorded in the Bible? You are just rushing to defend Freeze without making a research of your own to be sure whether he's worth supporting.

Would Joseph have been able to work if the blessing God put in him wasn't there? Have you forgotten that that blessing was what presented him before Pharaoh? Freeze wants Nigerians not to seek spiritual blessings; he wants us to just work. Egypt worked because a spiritual blessing told them what the future held for them. Disconnect yourself from the spiritual blessing, disconnect yourself from the feature. Your work will be invain

Psalm 127:1
A song of ascents. Of Solomon. Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain.

You've once again shown that you lack discernment. Who's talking about going to the Egypt we know today? I was being spiritual there. I meant Freeze wanted us to do things the way Egypt of then was doing which saw that they disregarded the blessing of God. Since they were building without God's support, He had to show them that they were building in vain. He showed them that there was no way they could survive the famine without relying on a man whom he has bestowed His Spirit on. Freeze wants us to neglect such blessing and work based on our own understanding. He wants us to neglect our God in our doings. He forgot that builders build in vain if they do not involve God.

Is it the duty of Churches to build industries or the duty of the government? Those nations in the west who are highly industrialized today, do you know that it was all due to the foundation of Christianity i.e the IVY league universities they built which propelled learning?

The missionary schools built by the Church have all been destroyed by the government after they took over. Do you still see schools like st Davids primary school, St Anglican secondary school? Do they look competitive today? No, all thanks to bad governance. Now, you all want to blaime it all on the Church, in real sense on Christianity.

The bolded part shows the intention of you and Freeze. You believe you did it all by yourself, so you do not need God to progress. That is why we can't get out of this mess we are in, cos we failed to tap into God's blessing that sees one through difficult times, the type that helped Egypt.

Our government has failed us over the years, that is why people have gone to seek the Face of God cos they know the situation is beyond normal. How can we go to work when all we will work for will still be squandered by those in government? We can't go to work unless we seek the blessing of God, else we will be building in vain.

You all keep mentioning how South Korea a Buddhist nation is successful. Yes, they are successful, but are they inclines with the True God? No

Their success will end as destruction for them on Judgment day. That day should be more important than the present. It should always guide you in all your endeavors.
Guy, if you can't argue with reason and back your claims with Biblical facts, pls don't mention me again.
You will only be exposing yourself as not sound in scriptures.

Chief, it is embrassing having to read all this your unneccesary epistle to Paxonel.
Truth is like the sun. You can try shutting it out, for a time, but it ain't going away and neither, no sooner, is Freeze

alBHAGDADI:
Don't be sentimental about your love for Freeze.
Study this whole thing spiritually to see the truth

Put aside any love for Freeze
but study this whole thing spiritually and train your mind to see the truths in all Freeze has posited

paxonel:
firstly, this where you people are getting this whole thing wrong. Do spirits reason?
We are talking about physical things here, not spiritual things. Not every stories in the bible were spiritual stories, Jacob ended up in egypt was nothing spiritual, it was just normal coincidence.

So where were the livestock and servants during the seven years famine? If they actually had livestock and servants remaining after he worked for them why then will Jacob send his sons into egypt in search for food?
Why didn't he send his servants instead of his sons?
this was past glory, don't dwell on past glory that's what we are saying. Things were better in Nigeria in the past does not mean that it is the same now. Whatever situation we find ourselves in this country today we have to work and solve the problems rather than being spiritual, that's what freeze is saying.
This is true! Infact Joseph was the greater blessing to Egypt at that time because Joseph worked. Nigerians are not working, they are praying, they are waiting for Gods blessings, in this modern day that there is knowledge and understanding worldwide? Una go pray tire o
past glory
by who??
it's like you do not understand what freeze meant by Egypt.
Egypt are foreign countries Nigerians run to, in search for greener pastures. mind you, there is nothing spiritual here, Egypt just a figurative language that means foreign countries in the context of his sermon. Nigerians cannot possibly connect their blessings in Egypt this modern day, it's not possible. Rather, every Nigerian who travel to Egypt in search for fortune are ended up being discriminated but they come back and smile as if nothing is happening. That to my opinion is not blessing, look at Donald trump emigration policies, do they favour foreigners? It's part of the thing freeze is talking.

Oya, you travel your own, go and connect let's see
When you would have remain in Nigeria and think of solutions to problems?
immorality is everywhere, infact it is worst in Nigeria don't be received by our number of churches and traditional beliefs. But every country that have improved education and power supply rather than improved churches and mosques will end up becoming industrialized.
Freeze says some micro industries at lekki were converted to car park for a big cathedral is that not a big setback?

Once again, i don't need any spirit to study anything. We all went to school and graduated, by the grace of God no spirit helped us to write any of those numerous exams we wrote and came out well. We all did it by ourselves, so nigerians should learn to solve their problems themselves and stop being excessive spiritualizing.
I do not buy every idea of daddy freeze, when he is wrong i always know,
but this very Sahara interview about Nigeria, he is very right.

I've just scratched my post and deleted to write on his wrong(s)
because there is a lot very right ideas to buy, than the two or three wrongs, one doesnt or cant buy, in the interview

The interview crescendoed into a poignant reminder of what the status quo is

Freeze, the scourge of God, by the grace of God and help of the Holy Spirit, is everyday, moving to become a better man.

johnw74:
dictionary:
qadosh
sacred (ceremonially or morally)
however i understand
why you aio, a person that said God lied,
would also want to argue against Him being holy

Checkmate

bloodofthelamb:
How does it make you feel to put another down?

I think he mistook your ID for some other one

OkCornel:
As in eh...

When two men who shepherd a large flock miss road and lead the entire sheeps astray...

The picture below summarizes it all...

Wolf in Sheep clothing
versus
Wolf in Shepherd clothing

that na upgrade, no bi so?

OkCornel:
Watch
two Pastorpreneurs clashing on this tithe doctrine...

David Oyedepo and Chris Oyakhilome
have conflicting views on tithing...
(I don't believe any of them either though) but you'll find this hilarious...

h t t ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0xBAfqIFm4

SMH. Comedy of errors+Confused.com

awesomeJ:
I guess you thought the comment covered you. I was referring to just some 2 guys or so, who quoted me with silly arguments.
Unless you think you did, Relax man

No brother, it isn't bout me.
I just felt you slighting anyone on that thread wasn't called for
You may and/or could have said their arguments were feeble I thought

butterflyl1on:
Put some ice on the tongue

I didnt literally bite my tongue
I just held back, not wanting to say "I told you so"

butterflyl1on:
They can argue for the universe. Arguing in such a "mumuistic" way.

I wouldnt settle for "mumuistic"
They think they have chutzpah, balls made out of steel
When the Owner decides to mark that thing, they'll wince and yelp ooo

wirinet:
To avoid contradictions, Exodus 20:13 should have put a caveat;
" Thou shall not kill, except non Jews and Jews who worship other God's apart from YHWH".

Nice quotes. I hope you never again blame Boko Haram or ISIS for following the instructions of their own God. In fact every other religion in justified by killing unbelievers.

butterflyl1on:
This is a facepalm moment but it took strength to desist from putting a meme well suited for this.

ROTBL. If not that I bit my tongue, I was going to say "didnt I tell you so"

butterflyl1on:
He does not know that scripture validates scripture just like Deut 30:17-18 said

Wirinet, hopefulLandlord and Company are eristics squared

wirinet:
Another one;
Thou shalt not kill. —Exodus 20:13

And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour. - Exodus 32:27

So shall we kill others or not?

butterflyl1on, you get time sha, if you respond to this Exodus 20:13 & Exodus 32:27 pre-Bible 101

wirinet:
And you are only interested in errors instead of the substance of the argument.
You must earn a living as a proof writer.

Its nothing like that Chief, its nothing like, must earn a living as a proof writer.
I wasnt even looking, it just jumped out and staring at me like a big fat throbbing swollen sore thumb
and I was going like this looks like a repetition of the first hypothetical

wirinet:
For your info, I type with my phone and only re-read my posts after I have posted.
It is easier to see errors after posting than in comment or edit mode.

Woulnt it have been convenient for the translators to enjoy this same privilege you instantly have and can easily take advantage of, huh?

butterflyl1on:
Why not post those verses let's see

Its a hypothetical
Jesus died at night or Jesus died at day is a hypothetical
He was just trying to illustrate a sentiment

wirinet:
I really admire your energy at engaging theists especially the Christian variety in arguments. I remember my university days when we argue from evening till the morning of the next day. At the end of the day nobody is any wiser as the theists engage in logical, spiritual and linguistic gymnastics to escape glaring illogicalities and contradictions in their bible and doctrines.
A hypothetical example is;
A verse says Jesus died during the day, another book in another verse says Jesus died at night.
Non Christians would see contradiction, but Christians would argue a plethora of reasons.
1. It was in the late evening, so one writer saw it as day, while the second writer saw it as night.

2. It was actually night, but it was day in the part of the world the writer was located.

3. It was actually day, but the other verse said night due to translational issues. The original Greek translation actually meant late in the day, when the sun has actually gone down. But when they translated to English they removed the late, so it read as if it was day when it actually meant night.

4. It is irrelevant of Jesus died at night or in the day, the most important thing was that Jesus died, that was a fact and no contradiction there.

The excuses can go on and on to explain away the numerous glaring contradictions in the bible.

Re-read your hypothetical, does it sound or read right?
PS You've edited it after spotting the discrepancy

PastorAIO:
You will not surely die.

This is very different from:
Surely you will not die.

The original hebrew says you will not-surely die.

¹⁶The LORD God commanded the man, saying,
"From any tree of the garden you may eat freely;
¹⁷but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat,
for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."
- Genesis 2:16-17

The serpent said to the woman,
"You surely will not die!
- Genesis 3:4

"you will surely die" in the Genesis 2:17 verse, means, God will make it His business to see and make sure that you die
"you surely will not die" in the Genesis 3:4 verse, means, God will NOT make it His business to see and make sure that you die

"not-surely die" means, without any doubt, you wont die.
It's either the serpent wasnt sure of the facts and truth or the serpent is telling a lie

Now, after the deed's done, the dust's settled and looking at Genesis 3:22-24, who told the truth, who told a lie?

awesomeJ:
Just finishing March Holyghost service now.

I've read through my mentions,. and really there isn't any which deserves a response.
Buda doesn't seem to know if he's claiming my New York guy exists or not, just some long epistles.
The other folks' comments seem immature and off point.
So thanks for saving me time.

However, if you have any reasonable argument that doesn't involve you going around in endless circles over talks we've had, bring it ON.

The second line emboldened was so uncalled for

budaatum:
Buda is claiming buda does not give a damn, actually!

I liked that
but does buda give two or more damns

johnw74:
Gen_2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen_3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die

but then along comes the twisters of truth who hate God and His word
and change what He says

if satan meant: "it's not for sure that you will die"
then did God mean: "thou shalt surely die, but I'm not sure"

duh
have a swift journey:
Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

God said:
"thou shalt surely die"

satan said the opposite to God:
"Ye shall not surely die"

how they love to try and make God out to be a liar

PastorAIO:
The serpent said that as a statistical case it is not sure that you will die.

God didn't say that he wasn't sure, I don't know where you got that from. He said that they will Surely Die. I don't see what's been twisted there.

Death was no consequence of eating the tree of g and e.
It was a consequence of being deprived of the tree of life.

These are the facts. If you're not comfortable with the implications that does not affect the facts in any way.

Death was no consequence of eating the tree of g and e? Really?
SMH. Facepalm. Tsk.
This is what happens when someone doesnt first, look, before leap jumping into a rabbit hole

OkCornel:
So tell me...what difference does the word "surely" make...in the context of this discussion...

Then go further to explain how this validates what happened to man after they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil after that...

Did they die?
yes or no

PastorAIO:
I see that you are struggling to appreciate the significance of the word 'surely'.

Surely means 100% definite occurrence.

Not Surely means less than 100% likelihood.

'The day you eat thereof ye shall surely die ' means that 100% certainty that before the day is over you will be dead.

After eating from the fruit of the tree Adam and Eve did NOT die.

They eventually died because they were deprived of the fruit of the tree of life.

¹⁶The LORD God commanded the man, saying,
"From any tree of the garden you may eat freely;
¹⁷but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat,
for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."
- Genesis 2:16-17

The serpent said to the woman,
"You surely will not die!
- Genesis 3:4

"you will surely die" in the Genesis 2:17 verse, means, God will make it His business to see and make sure that you die
"you surely will not die" in the Genesis 3:4 verse, means, God will NOT make it His business to see and make sure that you die

Now, after the deed's done, the dust's settled and looking at Genesis 3:22-24, who told the truth, who told a lie?

OkCornel:
If you are challenging the divinity of Jesus...
please help shed more light on the following verses in Mark 2 vs 25-32
25 And behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon: this man was just, and feared God, and waited for the consolation of Israel, and the holy Ghost was upon him.

26 And it was declared to him from God by the holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen that Anointed of the Lord.

27 And he came by the motion of the spirit into the Temple, and when the parents brought in the babe Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the Law.

28 Then he took him in his arms, and praised God, and said,

29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word,

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people,

32 A light to be revealed to the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

Sarassin:
Where did you read that I challenged the Divinity of Jesus?

So its not just me
Must be something you keep posting then, that makes people see you, as seemingly coming across, as challenging the Divinity of Jesus

Sarassin:
How come when I say it, I get kicked from pillar to post?

because your wording, the choice of words, when you say it, are incorrect

Sarassin:
not a peep from the brethren...

Have you before, ever being stunned by someone's else state of not being aware of something so basic and blatantly obvious?
Well until you have, you will never understand why not a peep from the brethren...

Sarassin:
Really?
so how come that early Christian Jews rejected the Divinity of Jesus?

Dont you think its a bit of an over-generalization, when you carelessly make a blanket statement like this?
Who are these early Christian Jews sef? Who is an early Christian Jew?
Werent there Jews who rejected the Divinity of Jesus?

Sarassin:
Isaiah 9:6 Inferred Divinity,
the altered verse in John "conferred" Divinity on Jesus,
it is in the Book of John we actually read of Divinity directly conferred on Jesus as doctrinal thought.

Really? What of Matthew 1:23?
Have you also, a different verb to use for Matthew 1:23 too?

Sarassin:
'course not, you're the man

[img]https://s1/images/Chair.jpg[/img]
No ooo, you the mayne, you the baba nla won mayne.
You are, the chairman.
Twale Sarassin Baba!, I cover my chest, hide.
I merely was advising and just forewarning, so no one, mess with me,
as I know, Tae kwon do, Karate, Sumo, Judo, Jujitsu, Kung Fu, Mixed martial arts moves
and 20 more other dangerous words

Sarassin:
Ok,
but since we no longer have actual original first copy drafts of the scriptures for comparison
is it therefore fair comment that the scriptures available today
particularly the NT are not inspired and therefore cannot lay claim to being inerrant?

I will go as far with you and stretch my neck
that it is therefore fair comment that all translations available today or before, whether OT or NT are not inspired
and therefore as have always being pointed out, now and then, here and there, arent and/or cant have the claim of being inerrant

Sarassin:
And where have I contested the Divinity of Jesus? Isaiah 9:6 aside,
I wrote that the Ebionites disputed the Divinity of Jesus and alterations were made to texts to counter this

Alterations weren't necessary to make to texts to counter the Ebionites disputing the Divinity of Jesus, as Isaiah 9:6 was inspired before NT

Sarassin:
It's good to have fun ...sometimes.

All work and no fun, makes Jack... Sometimes.
It's good you're having fun
but don't mess with me sha

Sarassin:
And why would clarification be required of a manuscript that is supposedly inspired?

First off, let us record for posterity that you Butterflylion now accepts that an original Greek biblical manuscript i.e the Codex Alexandrinus was later altered.
You call it a clarifier, I call it an insertion, no matter we can put to bed the lie about the incorruptibility of scripture, we now they have been tampered with.

You asked who the scripture would be referring to in its original form if not God? We can be certain it was not Paul, neither was it Sarassin nor Butterflylion so we are left with the only reasonable inference that it is of course Christ.

Therefore our understanding of that verse in the original form would be something along the lines of “Christ (who) was manifested in the flesh…” as distinct from “God was manifested in the flesh…”

Now, you have gone to great lengths in trying to pre-empt matters by correlating verses showing that Jesus considered himself God however, the terms God and Jesus are never used interchangeably in narrative scripture, for avoidance of doubt, my meaning here is that Gospel writers would not ordinarily use the term "God" where they intended to say "Jesus" and vice-versa, both terms have always had distinct usage. The pertinent question therefore is why the need for alteration or clarification as you put it?

Very simply the alteration was made in order to fully promulgate the idea of the Divinity of Jesus.
It was a textual alteration made in order to counter the claim of the Ebionites that Jesus was fully human and not himself divine.

Aw, c'mon Sarassin.
It is all scripture that is inspired
and not translations, nor scripture upscaled with chapters & verses, you of all people, know this.

Also, I can bet my bottom dollar you're familiar with Isaiah 9:6, so why all this unnecessary fun you seem to be having plus contesting the divinity of Jesus, hmm?

PastorAIO:
THE BATTLE OF THE FRAMES!!! lol

Who is going to blink first. Hahaha
PS: Sarassin apparently did, just as I was posting this

Humanistme:
sorry the mistake is from me.
it was joshua that commanded the sun to stand still.

but my point still stands that part of the story didn't happen.
it is pure lies

And why according to you didn't that part of the story happen?
What may I ask, are the pure lies?

PastorAIO:
Since this thread is about Self Contradictions....

"Bo si gbangban"
loosely means
"Come out into the open"

Please articulate what was on your mind and anything else that prompted you to parade my quotes and have me mentioned