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ScienceWatch:
I don't know where I stored that link.
You can search on Emmanuel TV website or YouTube.

budaatum:
I will knock your head you!
I should troll through TBJTv like I have not got better things to do with my time!

When you remember, please post.
We can't have we unbelieving atheists continuing in our unbelief if we can help us.

And the shadeyinkas of this world will be telling budaatum:
"The boy is now healed. What's your problem?"

THE ETYMOLOGY & ORIGIN OF THE YORUBA WORD IYAWO

The original Yoruba word for wife is "Aya", not "Iyawo".

The latter is quite commonly used nowadays than the former. I would take you through how Iyawo came about:

Wura, a beautiful damsel who was at the phase of choosing a spouse was faced with the task of selecting the most suitable one for herself, she was the first child and the daughter of the King of Iwo (a yoruba town).

Yoruba deities like Sango, Ogun, and other known male deities went to Iwo to seek her hand in marriage. Wura mistreated them all.
Wura was very rude and uncouth. She meted the worst behaviour one can think of onto her suitors.
Everyone of them failed to accomplish the prospect of marrying her because they could not withstand her behaviour and they all abandoned their mission on the very first day. That was how tough Wura was.

However, when it was the turn of Orunmila, before he set for Iwo, he sought wisdom from Olodumare through Ifa.
He was duly informed that no matter the illtreatment Wura might subject him to, he must not react angrily.
He should be patient, tolerant and long suffering. He was highly warned to expect humiliation from Wura and must resist the temptation to be provoked.

When Orunmila got to Iwo, Wura looked at him scornfully. She did not welcome him.
She hissed at him, called Orunmila all sorts of deprecating names.
She neither offered Orunmila any food nor entertained him. Orunmila kept an even face.

The first day passed, second day, till about the seventh day.
To cap it all, Wura took Orunmila's Opon-Ifa (i.e. divination board) and used it as firewood.

She took Orunmila's Pouch (i.e. Apo Ominijekun) from him.
This angered Orunmila greatly but he still conducted himself with silent restraint and dignity.
He refused to react to her behaviour having been warned of the consequences of not heeding the advice.

Eventually, the King realised that Orunmila was humble, mild mannered and well behaved.
He was amazed that Orunmila did not react or show any sign of anger towards his daughter despite the humiliation.
Orunmila's behaviour gave the Olu Iwo the assurance that he, Orunmila would take good care of Wura, his daughter, if she became his wife.

All along however and unbeknown to Orunmila and other suitors, Wura's behaviour had been a carefully planned and executed
test for all the prospective suitors.
The King finally summoned Orunmila and handed Wura over to him with his royal blessings to take unto himself as wife.
The king went on to divide his property into two.
He gave Orunmila half of it and Orunmila thus became rich and had Wura as his wife.

Upon Orunmila's arrival back home, his people welcomed him enthusiastically as a hero for his accomplished task of winning the hand of the beautiful daughter of Olu Iwo and bringing fame and fortune to his community.
They asked for some details of his new wife, his answer was direct:
Iya-ti-mo-je-ni-Iwo (i.e. the result of my humiliation at Iwo town).
This eight syllable word, "Iya-ti-mo-je-ni-Iwo" later became known as Iya-Iwo, and now Iyawo.

Hopefully with this new information I have educated you a bit more about your wife.
So if she hisses at you sometimes and is obstinate,
just remember Orunmila's humiliation at Iwo before he won his wife's hand in marriage. ... and keep behaving like Orunmila!!!

NB:If you have ever read William Shakespeare's TAMING THE SHREW you should be able to note some similarities.
https://www.facebook.com/Aajiirebi/posts/1732802163420867

shadeyinka:
The comment was meant for you

That's what I wanted clarifying

shadeyinka:
since it looks like you are interested in it

No, I am not interested in it and it doesnt look like anything, me
As a matter of fact, I dont give a rat's male donkey about the first picture, second picture and whatnot
I wanted, only, to know why you asked, if budaatum has a problem

shadeyinka:
And the question has been answered!

No, you never did and havent
because I asked:
Who are you using "you saw... What else do you want to see" to or for?
Who is the you, in ""you saw"... "What else do you want to see" to or for?"

shadeyinka:
In the first picture, you saw the boy unable to walk because of a compound fracture.
The bone was dead and protruding out of the leg.

Medical science cannot rejuvenate a dead tissue/bone.

The second picture shows this same boy healed.
He was even holding a piece of the dead bone of his leg.
What else do you want to see.

If you want to know more, go to scoan and ask for the address of this boys parent.
Visit them and conduct an interview

Who are you using "you saw... What else do you want to see" to or for?
All I asked you, about budaatum, was "How do you mean, what's his problems?"

budaatum:
They will not listen.
They prefer to believe that spraying TBJoshua Holy Water on broken bones will heal the boy!

The videos shows no change. Just the boy walking without crutches.
Show me the boy a week later please!

shadeyinka:
The boy is now healed. What's your problem?

How do you mean, what's his problems?

Antoeni:
Delilah or the Philis tines? None of these options is correct. Permit me to tell you how

Even if there were 10,000 Philistine soldiers, they couldn't have defeated Samson. Do you know why? Samson's strength was not of this world; it was divine. As long as no one can defeat God, no army could have defeated Samson no matter how strong or many

Samson was raised a terror for the Philistines. He killed a lion with his bare hands, lifted the gate of a city on his shoulder and walked over 46 miles; he killed 300 Philistines soldiers with a jaw bone. What if he got a spear or sword?
So, who killed Samson?
The answer is Samson.
Yes! Samson killed himself!
A man is his greatest enemy.
What an enemy cannot do to a man,
he would do to himself.
Samson killed himself.
He delivered himself to the lap of Delilah
and used his own mouth to tell the secret of his power.
His life promised so much but delivered so little
The Bible says, "People ruin their lives by their own stupidity, so why does GOD always get blamed?" (Proverbs 19:3. MSG)

Nobody can ruin your life except you do with your own hands. Although you can blame it on God or parents or government, you're the architect of your life; you are your greatest enemy. Even if your grandparents had done any evil, until you press the trigger it won't explode on your face

No Satan or witch has the power to destroy you no matter how much they hate you, you're the only one who can kill yourself by your actions
When the enemies try in vain to kill you,
they lie in wait
and allow you to kill yourself by your actions.
Goliath, the champion couldn't hurt David but adultery destroyed his family. The gentile nations couldn't hurt Moses, but anger killed him. When king Jeroboam stretched his hand against the prophet, his hand dried up; he couldn't hurt him, but his own disobedience turned him to a prey for a lion. Your greatest enemy isn't outside there, it's in you

Millions are killing themselves with their own mouth by what they eat and drink. Millions die of sexually transmitted diseases every year. Would you blame a witch for that?

Hundreds of thousands of divorce and breakup happen every year because people destroy their own marriages and homes with their own hands. Like Proverbs 14:1 says "Every wise woman builds her house, but the foolish one tears it down with her own hands.

If you fail, don't look far away, look inwards because what's killing you is inside of you. What you yield yourself to will either kill or save you. If you continue yielding yourself to fornication, that's what will kill you both spiritually or physically

Everyone has a seed of sin deposited in him through his Adamic nature. True repentance kills that seed but if you don't kill that anger, pride, jealousy, greed, lust, it won't just kill you in the future, it might have been killing you already. That's why no matter how much people die of cancer and diabetics people won't stop smoking and drinking because a man signs his own death warrant

Kill that seed before it kills you. Quit that habit, now! Because your greatest enemy isn't a man or a spirit or Satan but you. Yes, You!

Antoeni, good post.
I am not trying, by any stretch of the imagination, to minimise the message in the post, but like to ask you:
So who killed Jesus then?

PastorAIO:
God is the self-eternal One,
having no need of being created, since He is eternal and is the cause of all things,
INCLUDING the dimension of time, to which He is NOT SUBJECT.

Likewise, God is NOT SUBJECT to the physical creation, but is spiritual in nature,
residing in the SPIRITUAL DIMENSIONS (the infinite) of heaven.
God's power over the physical creation is ABSOLUTE, such that He can manipulate matter, energy, space, and time AT WILL.

For this reason, God is said to be all powerful
—able to accomplish any possible task He wills to do.
Along with being ALL POWERFUL, God is also ALL KNOWING
—having knowledge of all things that are possible to be known,
including the entire history of the universe—past, present, and future.

Because God is all powerful (omnipotent) and all knowing (omniscient),
He is also able to be present at ALL PLACE OF THE UNIVERSE AT ALL TIME (omnipresent).
God is also ALL LOVING.

God is ABSOLUTELY HOLY—without any moral or character defect.
In fact, the Bible says that God is INCAPABLE of doing any evil, despite being all powerful.

God is UNCHANGEABLE. In other words, He does not change any of His attributes or character at any time.
Despite humanity's tendency to change its definition of morality, God's moral character DOESN'T EVOLVE WITH TIME, but remains constant.

SO ON THIS BASIS I ARGUE.

3) And most importantly:
Can you now demonstrate Whether or not Brahma (of hindu's religion) fits into your descriptions?
If so, why so? If not so, why not so?

And can you tell us Whether or not Yahweh ( of hebrew religion) fits into your descriptions?
If so, why so? If not so, why not so?

You asked me for the meaning of Holiness, qadosh.
that if I have any idea, to please contribute.
This afterthought cum Oliver Twist addition wasnt part of your original request to me

I suppose "fits into your descriptions" means what promise10 outlined out as his own definition and understanding of what God is

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Can you now demonstrate Whether or not Brahma (of hindu's religion) fits into your descriptions?
If so, why so? If not so, why not so?>>>
Brahma (of hindu's religion) doesnt fit into the descriptions
because God, whose personal name is unrevealed and unknown but nonetheless, takes to Yahweh,
is everything Brahma is and everything that Brahma is not, that, Yahweh is
Even the name Yahweh, its meaning is a dead giveaway

And can you tell us Whether or not Yahweh (of hebrew religion) fits into your descriptions?
If so, why so? If not so, why not so?>>>
Yahweh, inarguably, is a living embodiment of all those descriptions
Just above previous response, says why

Gggg102:
off to church

MuttleyLaff:
So?
Make we shout Hallelujah or go fry beans?

Gggg102:
who told you I am an atheist?

Emmanystone:
You are not? Wait!!!! What? .
What are you, a satanist? Well, your speech betrays you.

Emmanystone:
Who is the US?
You and who?

He started his stunt, when he tried it on, earlier today claiming that, he is going to church

PastorAIO:
3) And most importantly: Can you now demonstrate Whether or not Brahma (of hindu's religion) fits into your descriptions? If so, why so? If not so, why not so?
And can you tell us Whether or not Yahweh ( of hebrew religion) fits into your descriptions? If so, why so? If not so, why not so?

Why yall keep posting same thing twice and thrice
First it was Gggg102, now it's you
Of course, I can but I am right now busy having dinner

paxonel:
This your statement is very fallacious,
when Jesus says the thief commeth not but to still, kill and destroy he was not referring to any human being as the thief.
He was specifically referring to other religions that came before he (Jesus) came on earth to die.
I'm taking time to explain this to you so that you don't have excuse of ignorance, i did not know.

Stop quoting scritures wrongly for your evil agenda against your fellow christian.
You don't like him how does that change his faith?

You better go and enroll in school o

¹¹I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
¹²The hired hand is not the shepherd, and the sheep are not his own.
When he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away.
Then the wolf pounces on them and scatters the flock.
¹³The man runs away because he is a hired servant and is unconcerned for the sheep.…
- John 10:11-13

[s]Wrong
To continue in a moment, as I am having my lunch [/s]

Paxonel, my main mayne, please accept my profuse apologies & disregard my now scratched out earlier speak out
I thought you were refering to and talking about John 10:11-13
as John 10:13, in particular, the part, where, in at sight of wolf, the man runs away, is talking of pasteurpreners

hopefulLandlord:
What I'll do?
of course I'll lie to the assassins so long I have all the angles covered (don't want them realising I lied and they kill both me and Gggg102)
but that's because I don't accept that morality is objective and a code handed down by imaginary friends

In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did
when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?
- James 2:25

Of course, you'll have to give it a careful thought, just as Rahab did considering the circumstances she found herself in
Well you've made a good and proper judgement then if you lie
as if Gggg102 was targeted for assassination for speaking the truth,
and he hid out in your place, then the mercenaries arrive and asks if Gggg102 is with with you.
if you say, no, then you've told a righteous lie

Concerning: "Should you have delivered Gggg102 up to your enemies?"
Definitely, as assassins will do, the mercenaries will kill you next after snuffing life out of Gggg102
so to what end or what purpose will it serve, delivering truth speaking Gggg102 up to your enemies?

hopefulLandlord:
Many Christians however say morality is objective and unchanging, any lie is a lie and it leads to hell

You are not bearing false witness against your neighbour in this circumstance nor was Rahab in hers

PastorAIO:
I feel like taking you off the back burner

I never felt ever being on a back burner

PastorAIO:
and playing about with you a bit.

I rather you not play about a bit with me
but instead, you play about a bit with whatever your toy(s) maybe.

PastorAIO:
Would you care to explain what you mean by checkmate?

Nothing much to explain, than it was a random thought that first sprang to my mind

PastorAIO:
Is there a game you're playing?

Yes, there is a game I am playing.
Are you interested in participating in the game I am playing?

PastorAIO:
I asked for the meaning of Holiness, qadosh.
If you have any idea please contribute.

If you have the stamina to sustain my contributions with,
then why not make your wish, be my command
Holiness is a derivative of an abstract root word, Holy (i.e. "qadosh'')
so holiness in essence, is the state of being holy (i.e. "qadosh'')

God, set Himself apart for a special purpose,
and this essentially implies that, ceremonially, morally or whatnot, God taboos Himself from profane use.
God is "qadosh". God is Holy.
Capisce

hopefulLandlord:
If I do I wouldn't be asking

You dont?
You dont know what you would do in that situation?
What a real shame then if you dont

OK, the question is not anymore about, what would you do in that situation
but now, what you think, should a righteous person do in that situation.
Try and just give guesses, go with your gut reactions

Gggg102:
capisce

Thank you
and be blessed.
Sorry to hear and know about the challenges you're going through with the network and faltering battery
You may proceed though, if you have anything else to add.

Gggg102:
you wanted me too

Gggg102:
you wanted me too

Gggg102:
you wanted me too

Are you alright?
Why repeat post three times

I asked you to stick to the "righteous" terminology used by OP and the question
Nobody asked you or wants you change it with alternate adjectives you take fancy to
Sticking to remit of the question, is the righteous thing to do. Capisce

hopefulLandlord:
Is that a righteous lie or not?

what should a righteous person do in that situation?

You and I know what a righteous person in that situation will do
What about you,
I mean, just as you are, as in for sake of this discussion, have with no righteous halo hanging over your head,
what would you do in that situation?

Gggg102:
changed it

Why?
Your "changed it" reason is?

Gggg102:
if you were targeted for assassination for speaking the truth, and you hide out in my place, then the mercenaries arrive and asks if you were with me.
if I say, no isn't it a good lie
should I have delivered you up to your enemies?

Please, are you finding it difficult to stick to the terminology used in the thread subject heading?
Righteous lie is what is asked about
and not a whether
"If I say, no, isn't it a good lie" alternate question

johnw74:
who are you trying to fool with the pastor monika
believing satan and not God you are surely lost:

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

(2Co 11:13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
(2Co 11:14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
(2Co 11:15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
vvv

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Leave out ad hominems
if you have points to make, just go straight ahead to making them
Dont be distracted by any pastor monicker
He could be a pastor of anything or anybody
You havent heard or seen him claim to be a biblical themed or biblical nature pastor or not
so stick to the board and focus on the pieces or your moves and not the player

Gombs:
keep trying to derail.
When this thread was created, you weren't on nairaland with this moniker, see why continuing discussion of this with you is useless?

Point is, Deji Yesufu, aka Drummaboy, Drummaboy2, WinsomeX, and VB campaign and the rest of the team are blueprints of failure...crass failure. You too.

Just send invite when the gudu gudu meje date is fixed & confirmed, OK.

Yemea1:
Jagaban baba... the brain behing the success of lagos state.
Lets give this man a chance to be incharge of the politic of federal republic of Nigeria.

[img]https://s1/images/WagFingerNo.gif[/img]
Ah no ooo!
Once bitten, was Senator Tinubu,
twice shy, was Governor Tinubu twice,
thrice, hmm must be a fool then, if given chance to be in charge of the politic of Federal Republic of Nigeria, as President Tinubu.

Gombs:
Onitsha Mall?
You forgotten your meds again?..lol

Erh, dont tempt fate ooo
Ever since you knelt on one knee, you got wrapped around the finger after it
and your presence was curtailed and rationed
Did you sneakingly come in here to rushingly type

Gombs:
what are you talking about sef?

[img]https://s1/images/Muttley_Watch.gif[/img]
You being watched mate! Bwahahaha!
Just dont forget, no milk sampling before purchase

Gombs:
anyways, you now digital? looooooooooooooooooool

four years of stinking failure. I'm embarrassed

You watched that Oyakhilome+Oyedepo YouTube video, didnt you?
That was Comedy of errors+Confused.com just begun

Gombs:
i'm a prophet o....looool

You wish
but I wish you know that is delusional

Gombs:
mind your business

leave us to pay our tithes... but Deji, you know i know how to bust you!
You know say we don tey for this turf...
you are now promoting yourself?
What happened to your adherents and those your rag-tag team who claimed they have liberated MANY from tithing? Jokers!

DrummaBoy, then WinsomeX and now VBcampaign?

you sold your shame to who? for what exactly?

i think you should join daddy freeze on this your anti-tithe campaign, you failed mercilessly in these past few years,
let's see how monumental the failure of your tag team with daddy freeze will be.

this is the link you and frosbel did 4 years ago...your failure with frosbel deserves an Oscar... you couldn't even print a tract in 4years, despite your epistles on nairaland, but not passionate enough to print a simple tract and share it.
https://www.nairaland.com/1810931/design-anti-tithe-tract-50/1#24704734

i see newbies and folks who changed their moniker littered all over this thread, that is why a lot of us didn't deem it sane to participate in this discussion, which have been trashed severally here since 2012.

una no dey grow?

Gombs:
4 years don waka

Yes! Not need for it, we now digital
You see how, without it, its caught on with Freeze?
How many years after that your Onitsha Mall stunt sef too?
No make am wait 4 years before you do the real thing ooo
and no "ajibu" before then too
"ajibu" loosely meaning "no milk sampling"

Gombs:
4 years don waka

Yes! No need for it, we now digital
You see how, without it, its caught on Freeze?
How many years after that your Onitsha Mall stunt sef too?
No make am wait 4 years before you do the real thing ooo
and no "ajibu" before then too
"ajibu" loosely meaning "no milk sampling"

Gggg102:
muttleylaff

you see, he did not even address the issue. he used the fact that they were practicing Judaism not Christianity as an excuse.

even when it was the same God.

that was what brought me to my inference.

everything that happened in Judaism is irrelevant and inconsequential to Christians.
according to okcornel

I earlier yesterday, noticed the whole thing started with wirinet's weak logic
but you didnt know before jumping into the rabbit hole,
that the argument wirinet was putting forward was not only weak but was inaccurate too
Now, after going through past posts, it is as clear as day, you didn't understand what OkCornel was trying to say
and despite all butterflyl1on tirelesly said in detail, you still werent any the wiser

OkCornel, even asked you, to try and show him where in the Bible Christians were commanded to kill their enemies...
You didnt respond to the question nor did you give sh!t, maybe its because you're constipated.

Gggg102:
off to church

So?
Make we shout Hallelujah or go fry beans?

Gggg102:
okcornel: Christianity and Judaism are like oil and water. they are distinct... they cannot mix...

that led to our back and forth that led to old law, new covenant till we got here.

Is this it?
If it is, then dont change career for comedy
because it is a poor joke

Gggg102:
what does okcornel's post imply?

Which okcornel's post?
Reproduce it here

Gggg102:
is that not the inference of okcornel's post.
yes or no
since God asked the Israelites to do stuff but not Christians, it doesn't apply to Christians.

You've come back for more battering? Erh?

Gggg102:
I'll be back soon but yh

Make that not before at least 10 years

Gggg102:
seriously
do you have any disagreement with the answer?

[img]https://s1/images/MuttleyMannersB4.gif[/img]
Are you still here?

Gggg102:
how is homosexuality a sin?

lemme answer for you

because it was against the law of Moses which we are no longer under.
the same way eating unclean animals, mixing of threads, cross breeding of cattle, putting tassels on your clothes, planting different crops on the same field... were sins but we as Christians can do all these since we are no longer under the law.

Bravo. Encore!
Are you done?
Pleased with yourself now?
You really put on quite a show
Now take a bow
Very entertaining, go on and take a bow