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Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm On Feb 15, 2018
Emmanystone:
bros am here now, if you are on online.
Good evening.
Hi, mail me to:
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Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 6:11pm On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
OK sir
Thank you sir
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 6:08pm On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
cheesy
Nairaland folks can be frustrating.
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Grow a tough hide
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 5:52pm On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
Frank, u need to realize that you all are not d same.

Some guys hv been here n all they did was attack, I was pushed to do same.

I hv learnt a lot from u as a person n dalaman as well, cos u take ur time to explain and analyse ur ideas but same cannot be said for others.
U r me person n I don't mean to be that insulting
Even if anyone attacks you to tomorrow, that is no excuse for you displaying whatever it is frank317 observed of you.

Do you remember someone being advised to pray and work on himself in areas of the fruit of the spirit?
And that the flavour of the spirit, the person needs are gentleness and self-control?
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 3:12pm On Feb 15, 2018
butterflyl1on:
LMAO I couldn't resist sharing this meme with you.
This thread is a home run. grin
Don't let tintingz see that meme ooo
It might get and/or leave him "modified"
Bwahahaha grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 2:49pm On Feb 15, 2018
butterflyl1on:
Exactly!
Plus tintingz says nature has its positive and negative sides so this means death too has its positive sides.
Since this is the case why do atheists blame God for things that go wrong when after all everything has positive and negative sides cheesy
[img]https://s1/images/muttDuckEyed.jpg[/img]
Wow....
I shift yansh for you oooo
Na only you come?
Casualty dey on this thread so?
As I no fit carry deadi bodi ooo
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 2:23pm On Feb 15, 2018
butterflyl1on:
This means that since bestiality exists it is also natural.
Since mass murderers and serial killers exist they are also natural.
Since pain during childbirth exists, it is also natural grin

You just killed your own argument grin

Thank you very much.
Apart from the increased mental anguish at childbirth,
since death exists, it too, is also natural grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 2:16pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
I once told you to define natural.

> Natural

1. Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind.

2. In accordance with the nature of, or crcumstances surrounding, someone or something.

3. Relating to earthly human or physical nature as distinct from the spiritual or supernatural realm.

4. a person born with a learning disability.


From this definition here, is Homosexuality natural or not?
butterflyl1on:
LMAO what a way to reason. Homosexuality is natural you say and you say nature has positive and negative sides so I asked you to give me the positive sides of homosexuality in humans yet you keep dodging this.

If homosexual is natural in humans would you allow a man to penetrate your anus or touch you in an unseemly manner?

Since it's perfectly natural and normal you wouldn't frown at it right?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff:
vaxx:
You are a typical NIGERIA.
answering question with question. answer this one presented to you first.....
then throw your question back to me.
Oii, and there you go being stereotypical about Nigeria
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 1:37pm On Feb 15, 2018
vaxx:
i have been following your thought of reasoning. but this statement in particular flawed your already presented half truth...... before i will correct you. please check out the flaws....''if homosexual is not natural ,it should not exist in the first place'' tintingz
tintingz:
Can you tell us why or how Homosexuality came into behavior in some humans and animals?
Don't duck Vaxx's request asking you to please check out the flaws in your statement.

You either insist your statement stands
and then force Vaxx to go ahead correcting it
Or you review your statement and maybe Vaxx will hold his peace and keep quiet.
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff: 1:12pm On Feb 15, 2018
connectikut89:
Bros this has been debunked.
Groaning, is not speaking in tongues
Check my earlier posts or MuttleyLaff's
Tell them brother
Hope Petra1, Ronpet777, rhektor and Company brother understand this.

connectikut89:
Thank you for this.
I couldn't agree more and I couldn't have said it better.

In response to petra1, the word ‘groanings’ used in verse 26 is the greek word, 'stenagmos’ which means heart murmurings.
It is also used in Acts 7:34, “I have seen the affliction of my people which is in Egypt, and I have heard their groaning, and am come down to deliver them.”

You can't say the Israelites were speaking in tongues as at the time, can you?
ERV Bible uses "crying" instead of "groaning" in the aforementioned verse.

Sometimes when we are in great despair, and pray to the Father, we have a fervent desire to express these things eloquently in prayer in such a way as to be answered.

However often we can’t put words to the burdens of our heart, and we really just groan in our spirit, but don’t feel as if we’re accomplishing much.

The Bible says that the Holy Spirit takes the groanings of our heart and turns them into intelligible prayers that God answers
My brother, you're blessed.

I don't know about any of your experiences,
but let's just put it this way,
and must say, I wouldn't wish it on my enemy to be caught in dire straits like that

So, there are two occasions in my life,
when I was in dire straits and a right pickle where whilst in these unpalatable situations, I prayed to God, the prayers got to a point, that I couldn't articulate or put in words anymore what I was praying about, that I just groaned and sighed.

The groans, came from the inner deep fibre of my being.
It felt like I was at the end of my tethers, and actually had no more strength to pray, that I just have to resort to sighing at the situation and made groans, literally crying for the help and mercy of God
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff:
Emmanystone:
E go hard to dey keep eye for phone o. I dey here already.
Dem say make i enter Kitchen.
I dey cook o. I dey sweat here grin
I just love seeing participation in the religion that God our Father approves and accepts as pure and faultless...

OK, let's do it this way.
Drop me a line here, when you are less busy and have a free 10-15 minutes uninterrupted time to spare
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff:
Emmanystone:
I got a reply back that the email id is invalid. I think i came late. It has self-destruct already.
I was preparing for my outing to the orphanage.
I am soory i saw it late.

Is there a second chance?
I'll let you know as soon as I've created another one
Or will keep an eye out for one when you're back online
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff: 11:56am On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
God bless u sir. More wisdom!
If you accept that praying in the spirit, is the Holy Ghost knowing the will of God and so actually does the praying through us, then please describe:
1) How you, pray in the spirit
2) How you, pray with the spirit
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff:
Emmanystone:
Ohhhh, my dearly brotherly. But which Camera nah?

Butterfly1ion, weytin be the name of the best Camera?

Bro Muttley, na that one? cheesy
Meet you in private, not publicly

Just a few days ago, my better half,
was saying someone is insisting on me being at his 50th, apparently to rub shoulders with his clique
and this person is a pastor in one of these big naija Penterascal gathering

I said to my better half, doesnt this guy know that, Jesus in Luke 14:12-14, taught in the bible saying:
“12When you host a dinner or a banquet,
do not invite your friends or brothers or relatives or rich neighbors.
Otherwise, they may invite you in return, and you will be repaid.
13 But when you host a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind,
14and you will be blessed. Since they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.


Please quickly send me an email to this self destructible disposable temporary e-mail address
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com

You'll post an answer here to a question, testing to see it is really you and not an imposter trying to parade as you, emailing in
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff:
petra1:
Never ask a question if you don’t have stomach for the answer.
I say, in the age of information, ignorance is a choice

petra1:
Calling up assistant to cover up is not very smart. Let truth win.
I dont need assistance to cover up nothing
I was impressed someone else is rightly dividing the word of truth
and correcting your biased, erroneous or unfair interpretation of Romans 8:26-27
so drop your negative comment(s) already,
unless you're jealous, brother connectikut89 is better informed than you are on this subject

connectikut89:
Point of correction, that verse talks about the Holy Spirit doing the groaning.
Don't misinterprete it please.
It is explicitly stated in verse 27. The Holy Spirit does NOT pray through us, He prays on our behalf.

And as a matter of fact, groaning does not mean speaking in tongues.
Check verses 22 & 23
.

Romans 8:26-27 NLT - And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness.
For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for.
But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God’s own will.

Roman's 8:26-27 ERV - Also, the Spirit helps us. We are very weak, but the Spirit helps us with our weakness. We don’t know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit himself speaks to God for us. He begs God for us, speaking to him with feelings too deep for words. God already knows our deepest thoughts.
And he understands what the Spirit is saying, because the Spirit speaks for his people in the way that agrees with what God wants.
MuttleyLaff:
Thank you ojaare brother
I was almost left speechless, looking and laughing at Petra1's post
petra1:
Let your friend speak for himself na . You be muttelylaff advocate ?

But if you wanna answer for him . What doe that passage refer to .
What is groaning ? How does it take place?
The gloves are about comiing off
You asked for it

When Jesus therefore saw her weeping,
and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled,

- John 11:33

Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities:
for we know not what we should pray for as we ought:
but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

- Rom 8:26

Rom 8:26 and John 11:33 for that matter, arent verses that support Jesus spoke in tongues

John 11:33 is a combination of groaning and display of empathy
and not a proof that Jesus spoke in tongues

Rom 8:26, is not speaking in tongue
It is, to some degree similar to John 11:33 above, (e.g. moaning or groaning expression coming from within induced the spiriit)
and so equally like John 11:33, Rom 8:26 too, doesnt qualify to serve as proof, that Jesus actually spoke in tongue

Moaning or any other sounds made during or in the heat of passion
and groaning done to convey pain, despair, pleasure etcetera
or any other sounds made when cornered
and backed against a concrete wall isnt speaking in tongues

By the way, though old habit are difficult to die, its close to 14 years now, that I've managed to curtail doing this gibberish or nonsense
and I deliberately said, managed, because it sometimes wants to subconsciously rear its ugly head and slip back in

Mind you, I do groaning in the spirit (i.e. that's where & when applicable) but dont anymore do gibberish
- aside the different kinds of groaning out of pain, out of despair, out of pleasure etcetera,
there is a distinction (i.e. particularly in regards to when praying) between groaning in the spirit and talking gibberish

Jesus groaned in the spirit (i.e. John 11:33 and John 11:38)
but it wasnt the sort of gibberish thing we have and see in modern believers settings or gatherings

As said, I, too, when praying intensely do experience groaning in the spirit
- it usually is making deep inarticulate sound(s) or grunts during praying, out of pain, anguish, desperation or some strong emotion

I strongly want to believe, its similar to, if not on par with that, Hannah style of praying (i.e. 1 Samuel 1:10)

Pray, you aren't cornered that bad, that you need to resort to groaning when praying
It's out of exasperation, that groaning comes out
Jesus, out of exasperation too, groaned, at sight of Lazarus dead/sleeping

I can go more, on praying in the spirit and praying with the spirit,
but will pause, so as not to, cause information overload


Again, the three recorded evidences of speaking in tongues in the bible, occurred for a purpose and/or to serve that purpose

Each instance of the three recorded speaking in tongues happened with articulated utterances,
that were, coherent enough to other present audiences admitting and understanding the spoken tongues
For the three occurrences in the Bible , refer to Acts 2:8, Acts 10:46 and Acts 19:60

For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs)
and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy)

- 1 Corinthians 1:22

So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers.
Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.

- 1 Corinthians 14:22

For all the 3 recorded times, speaking in other tongues occurred in the bible,
it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews

For any that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above
that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is used as a sign for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a)

Petra1, the primary purpose for speaking in tongues, was/is not for use as a talisman,
neither to be used as quicker or easier mystical shortcuts to prayers or worship
Nor is it's purpose to be used as a form of means to confuse the devil or demons from understanding whats been prayed

But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
- Jude 1:20

Jude 1:20 has nothing to do speaking in tongues but means what it says out of the tin
(i.e. it means literally pray in the Holy Spirit, as in like one of those ''thy will be done'' prayers)
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 8:54am On Feb 15, 2018
Emmanystone:
Bros wish me Happy Birthday Biko.

Who will join me to the orphanage today?
A huge crowd will be most fun. Come on, come all.
Happy Birthday Sis
I'll be in touch, with you in camera
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 7:39am On Feb 15, 2018
sonofluc1fer:
Delusion - belief based on feeling.
GOD died for you. grin
butterflyl1on:
Jesus died for me.
What a great testimony and it was FREE.

However for mosquitoes or roaches to die for you, it still has to cost you at least 500 naira.
Even they refused to die for free for you.
. grin cheesy
Emmanystone:
No be small oo. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
https://gifyu.com/images/MuttleyManicalHilarious.gif
Savage slam dunk!
Sports › Re: Sunday Oliseh: "Fortuna Sittard Suspended Me For Rejecting Illegal Activities" by MuttleyLaff:
nairavsdollars:
Shut up Sunny
You are skillful
but you have a nasty character
You established mafia in Eagles,
bleeped Taribo West's wife,
fought a colleague in Germany....
i can go on and on
Just change your character
and all will be fine
[img]https://s1/images/MuttleyMopHead.gif[/img]
What?! Iyawo Paiestor?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Some Nigerians Left Their Churches (Photos) by MuttleyLaff: 8:16pm On Feb 14, 2018
walls01:
you have strong points but you are using human reasoning for spiritual matter.
As you go deep into the bible you discover how God do things.
of a truth there is another beings the spirit beings. This obey different laws from us.
You must have heard different strange Stories from cultist, native doctors and gods goddess.
This beings exist but we form ignorant about them.

Let me tell u a little story
when the communal war was tense in warri, father took us to herbalist for charm.
A razor was used to cut our Chest and a black substance was rubbed on it.
Believe me when we where shot at
bullets bounce of our body although it is very painful

The spiritual entity manipulates things different from us.
Am not guessing i know there is God, he is a mysterious being
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Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff:
Goshen360:
Okay, I'll answer from scriptures.

1. Yes, there's a language that a person or I can pray in that no one nor the speaker understands. 1 cor. 14v2.......Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.

2. The justification for this kind of prayer language is, the Spirit helping our weaknesses in prayer for in depth we don't know what deep things we ought to pray for. So, we or the speaker utter mysteries.....BY THE SPIRIT, not by OUR UNDERSTANDING now., still 1 cor. 14v2.

3. Like I said on the other thread then, the origin, both sign tongue and prayer tongue is the Spirit, NOT OUT INTELLIGENCE NOR OUR MIND.

4. I in my understanding called it prayer language, some call it spiritual language because I guess, devil too doesn't understand it. You know how u and me can speak yoruba and some or most Akata can't understand it and they be lost in conversation. Same way the prayer tongues between your spirit and God being enabled by the Spirit of God in you.

Shey I try....? Lol grin cheesy
Thank you for taking time out to respond.
You try, no bi small.

Now answering your question
I am not aware of me having any language that I pray in and/or pray with that neither, I, the speaker nor others understands?

If for sake of pretension, there is one, then if I use it without understanding the content of what's being prayed, then my mind is not profiting from it and I am not gingered.
also though my spirit prays, I won't be built up by it, for lack of not knowing what's been prayed.

If a Hausa man recites the Yoruba Lord's Prayer without understanding Yoruba, him reciting the prayer in a language or tongue he doesn't know, is not built up, he doesn't profit from it because he doesn't know what the prayer entails, except it had been interpreted to him.
Do you agree?

I trust you saw the two brilliant posts, Danvon and connectikut89 submitted?
What's your take on both posts, what do you make of both?

Meanwhile, you didn't respond to the below
:
Do you hear your thoughts, inside your head or are they silent?
Do others hear your thoughts, inside your head or are they silent?
Does God hear your thoughts inside your head or He doesn't?
Does Satan hear your thoughts inside your head or He cant?
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff:
petra1:
No but because of our limited understanding of his will , when we pray in the spirit the Holyghost who knows the will of God actually does the praying through us
Romans 8:26-27 (AMPC)
26 So too the [Holy] Spirit comes to our aid and bears us up in our weakness; for we do not know what prayer to offer nor how to offer it worthily as we ought, but the Spirit Himself goes to meet our supplication and pleads in our behalf with unspeakable yearnings and groanings too deep for utterance.
27 And He Who searches the hearts of men knows what is in the mind of the [Holy] Spirit [what His intent is], because the Spirit intercedes and pleads [before God] in behalf of the saints according to and in harmony with God’s will.
connectikut89:
Point of correction, that verse talks about the Holy Spirit doing the groaning.
Don't misinterprete it please.
It is explicitly stated in verse 27. The Holy Spirit does NOT pray through us, He prays on our behalf.

And as a matter of fact, groaning does not mean speaking in tongues.
Check verses 22 & 23
.

Romans 8:26-27 NLT - And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness.
For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for.
But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God’s own will.

Roman's 8:26-27 ERV - Also, the Spirit helps us. We are very weak, but the Spirit helps us with our weakness. We don’t know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit himself speaks to God for us. He begs God for us, speaking to him with feelings too deep for words. God already knows our deepest thoughts.
And he understands what the Spirit is saying, because the Spirit speaks for his people in the way that agrees with what God wants.
Thank you ojaare brother
I was almost left speechless, looking and laughing at Petra1's post
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff: 1:36pm On Feb 14, 2018
petra1:
Yes it depends on who you’re speaking to. Question : does God need interpretation ?
No, God doesn't need interpretation
and here is my question
Does God at any time expect, recommend, advise or require a special language from us or anyone else for that matter, when praying to Him?
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff: 1:12pm On Feb 14, 2018
petra1:
You are very correct .
Many people don’t know the difference .
It’s a misunderstanding of scripture. Speaking in tongues is different from praying in tongues .
Talking to God in prayer is different from talking to the hearing of men in prophecy or cooperate prayer.
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I suppose speaking in English,
is different from praying in English
Corporate prayer indeed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff:
danvon:
Wherefore tongues are for a sign,
not to them that believe,
but to them that believe not:
but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
1 Corinthians:14:22

For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1 Corinthians:1:22

Speaking in tongues was meant to convert Jews specifically
no place where the apostles spoke in tongues in a place surrounded by gentiles


Speaking in tongues was a miracle where different people would understand one language not this gibberish nonsense
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Danvon, Danvon, Danvon....
Steady, steady, steady with the details....

You seem to have forgotten what or who Cornelius is though

Cornelius and his household spoke in a different tongue for the benefit of the watching Jewish audience to serve as a sign or catalyst for them to start believing in the Good News and also in the person of who Jesus is
Christianity Etc › Re: Rev Mrs Funke Adejumo & Hubby Goes On Valentine Outing Backs Each Other(photo) by MuttleyLaff: 8:50am On Feb 14, 2018
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongue; A Great Lie By Olakunle Allison by MuttleyLaff: 8:09am On Feb 14, 2018
Goshen360:
My brother sorry for the disappearance from the tongue topic
if not for the mention, I've been really busy and just peep into the forum.

I did read your reply then on our tongue discussion.
Was going to reply
but other things was begging for my immediate attention and it's being one thing into another ever since.

However, one question I was going to ask on your response then was,

What language do you pray in;/with that neither you the speaker nor others understand?
Before I answer your question, lets first confirm we are on a same page:
1) Is there a language, one is to pray in and/or with that neither you, the speaker, nor others understands?
2) If Yes, what is the justification and/or reason for using this language?
3) What is the origin of this language?
4) What kind of language is this, what may we call it or can we call it?

After you've answered the four above, we can go further and in depth with details
Meanwhile, think about this
:
Do you hear your thoughts, inside your head or are they silent?
Do others hear your thoughts, inside your head or are they silent?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by MuttleyLaff: 7:13pm On Feb 13, 2018
MizMyColi:
Multiple thousand billion likes and shares cheesy
**********
NZ's a reality now.
Thank YOU smiley
Sarassin:
Fantastic!
Sarassin, good post.
The mind, if given the chance, has a way of playing mirage tricks on its owner
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by MuttleyLaff:
JesusSonOfGod:
My dear, how are you doing today? That's a wrong accusation oh, seriously. I never stated we should not pray. As a born again Christian, attacks will always come, this is why we must pray always as the scripture commanded.

My argument with you was because of the bolded, though you seem to have taken correction because your recent post is now contrary. It's obvious you didn't read my post. It's not fair when accusations are made falsely

My post is strictly on generational curses and nothing more, unless you are mistaken someone's post as mine. Read my post patiently
... and generational curses are down to mere or just genetics

JesusSonOfGod:
Satan has been defeated, but we have to claim that victory through Faith, which means we have to pray holding on to the word of God
I think, it will go a long way, if you give examples that illustrates how and when to claim that victory through Faith, which means we have to pray holding on to the word of God.
Is the praying once, continuous or once believed because of faith in the Word, then not necessary?

JesusSonOfGod:
I was arguing with the because you stated Christ did not remove every curse, so I wanted to know, if he didn't do that, who then will.
Think it was a mix up on his part
or him just being caught up in the heat of the discussion
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by MuttleyLaff: 6:12pm On Feb 13, 2018
shadeyinka:
I think you also know that not everyone who take bath salt manifest like that. Also, the kind of manifestation us unique to each individual.

If a christian take bath salt, Igbo, cocaine, heroine or any other narcotics, he could be prone to being demonized.
A christian cannot be possessed
Are you tiling out and/or saying a Christian or pastor cannot be controlled by evil spirits?

shadeyinka:
Demons are opportunistic. They don't play fair.
If a christian was given an HIV infected blood (injection), would he catch the HIV?
So in essence, you equate infected blood to be demons
and not being a case of, actually being viruses, in the blood, that is to blame?

shadeyinka:
We know the answer.
Unless there is devine intervention, he is most certainly infected.
So it is with demons.
What is, so it is with demons?

shadeyinka:
When a christian take hallucigenics (whether ignorantly, forcefully or deliberately, he could be demonized
I am glad we both agree that if a Christian inadvertently takes harmful doses of hallucinogenic, there likely will be a displayed manifestation of spirits or demons to behold.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by MuttleyLaff: 5:03pm On Feb 13, 2018
shadeyinka:
I dont know what you mean by the bolded
Exactly what I wrote.

There are about 86 billion neurons in the human brain.
You've heard people being called neurotic or being nervous

Sometimes, when people to know the cause or reason why certain things happen, we give a whimsical name or drop at the doorsteps of demons to take the blame

shadeyinka:
Some mental problem is Physical but some are due to soul sickness
(the soul is like a software that runs the Body-Hardware).
Demons may sometimes cause soul sickness(corruption)
Same thing.
Chemical imbalance in the brain.
When the soul is stifled, it's the body that's at the receiving end

shadeyinka:
The normal Human Heart is located at the center of the Chest but slightly tilted to the LEFT side of the human body. (The heart is bigger to the left side of the rib cage)
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-310b3838a0d7cebf47a0dab5a8ed2678

However, some rare cases humans especially when they have dextrocardia or Kartagener's Syndrome may have their heart to the right side of the body.

If a heart surgeon has a long time of experience, he might actualy come across men with this rare misplacement of their heart position.

In other words,
The more deliverance a believer does, the higher the probability he is going to see Born Again/Christians who manifest during deliverance.


It is easier to scream "impossibility!" when all you have is theoretical experience.
So what are you getting at with this heart position anomaly.

What's this fixation about or with Born Again?
Did Jesus publicly teach Born Again?
How was the circumstance and surrounding that made Jesus bring up the subject Born Again?

I still aren't clear or follow the emboldened

shadeyinka:
Any hard drug (hallucinogenic) makes one susceptible to demonic control.

The shamans/medicine men of old would take it so as to become a conduit to the gods.

"bathing salt" is just an alias for flakka. it has nothing to do with bathing

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMJMujPoa4Y
If a christian and/or believer should take bath salts, will there be manifestations of spirits or demons to watch?

Oh-oh
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff:
chemystery:
God
god
gOd
goD
GOD
gOD
etc...

They all mean the same thing.
It just depends on what measures/rules you have set yourself in playing with the upper and lowercase letters.

For you, your preferred god is spelt "God", while you spell other people's own as "god". Similarly, other people spell theirs as " God" while they spell yours as "god".
"God" as in, first letter capitalization the word,
is different to "god", whatever letter cases the "o" and "d" in god is.
Sorry, God and whatever variant of god don't mean the same thing.
There are similarities, god(s) have with God of course.

chemystery:
Again, you mustn't deify everything!
https://gifyu.com/images/JeffBridgesSittingWait.gif
Why don't you tell the glutton not to deify the stomach or belly?

Why don't you tell the drunk or alcoholic not to deify beer, spirits, rum, alcohol etcetera?

Why don't you tell the chrematistic, not to deify money?

Why don't you tell the pagan, not to deify the inanimate or not alive object, lying around at his/her shrine?

Why don't you tell the throngs that call out for their posts to make front page, not to deify the god of Nairaland and/or try to invoke his angels when they regularly pray to the heaven of Nairaland for favours?

Again, dear friend, humans subconsciously and not, deify

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