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donnie:
Can you guess why they broke off their noses and lips?

MuttleyLaff:
Baba, why are you, a respected and elderly man, barefacedly fond of lying now. Why, why, why?

That Sphinx of Giza's nose was already broken off before Napoleon, in the 19th century, set his foot in its vicinity. Baba please fear YAH now. Please fear God ooo.

An archaeological study, even concluded that it was broken with instruments at an unknown time between the 3rd and 10th centuries CE, but you say that it was Napoleon, born 15 August 1769 and died 5 May 1821 who broken off the nose. Poor history student/teacher. Smh.

engrchykae:
Napoleon Bonaparte,the fool broke off the nose of the Sphinx so that Africans can't recognize that the image is African

engrchykae:
stop being silly, it was Napoleon that did that disservice to the Sphinx, we all know that.
Or are you practicing hard to be stupid?

If I were you I would wash out my mouth, tongue and sanitise clean those slimy crooked filthy fingers there you are typing with

Fyi, verifiable historical literature, well before Napoleon was ever born, explicitly reveals that for iconoclasm reasons the Sphinx were already defaced before Napoleon ever sent foot in Egypt

MuttleyLaff:
Baba please stop buying time before you eventually give an answer nah. How did America (i.e. the United States of America/USA/US) get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade in the that year, 1619? This time, please unfailingly, advance me the answer to this question you keep leaving unanswered. Thank you

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You wey talk am, dem no born, lmao

Hyskos overran Egypt, soon after Joseph died, lmao. Didnt you know that ni Baba, lmao?
Baba, where did the Hyskos come from, lmao? Who was the Pharaoh when Moses turned up to lead the slave Israelites out of Egypt? Whats his name, lmao?

engrchykae:
Hyksos overran kemet but the able ahmose the first chased them out of EGYPT.

You, with your use of tautology, are reinforcing my point for me, by repeating and confirming what I already said about the Hyskos overrunning Egypt. Fyi, Kemet, is the old name for Egypt and thank you for confirming that Ahmose, the first, sent the Hyskos packing and leaving Egypt/Kemet.

Ahmose, the first, isn't black skinned, like the Hyskos are/were.

analice107:
Satan is the god of the MINDS OF MEN.

He rules the world's Systems by taking over and manipulating men's minds by making them do his biddings. thought processes. He ruled Adolf Hitlers mind, he rules today in every Muslim mind, his ruling in the minds of our political leaders.

The 'World' here doesn't include the constellations and weather conditions. He doesn't have that power

Seriously, Satan has as much power as MEN GIVES TO HIM. Hand over your mind, and Satan becomes your god. Take charge of your mind and he falls flat on his face

donnie:
Gbam!
he's the god of this age...this world's system:
Politics, education, cultures etc. Reason why we are not to conform to this world, cos we are not of this world.... we're from above. We are called to shine as lights in this dark world. Romans 12:2; John 17:14,16

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donnie:
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The scriptures did not mention Satan. you can check the interlinear, there is no Satan mentioned there. The Greek word used is theos, for god. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_corinthians/4-4.htm

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You think you're doing me

Baba, if you could above there, write in response to Analice107's comment about Satan that "Gbam! he's the god of this age...this world's system" then its certain that, you sure do know that the god (i.e. ruler, prince, judge, influencer et cetera) used in 2 Corinthians 4:4 is referring to Satan, but, typical of you, you've now decided to with your forked tongue not only lie and twist the interpretation of that verse, but also go out to subvert the minds of innocent others with your distortion and economy of the truth. You have no scruples to hide and distort the truth. Smh

donnie:
The real devils mistranslated it to hide their identity while stupid blacks worship them.

Time has come for ISRAEL's eyes to be open.
#AwakeOIsrael

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Much learning you still have

Fyi, 2 Corinthians 4:4, is actually referring to the Pharisaic cult influenced by Satan, who served as told in the devils workshop and use to blind the minds of those who don’t believe, making them unable to see the glorious light of the Gospel aka Good News. Not understanding that Jesus Christ, is God incarnate et cetera. As it was then, so it is now.

Satan, is the god of this age, as Satan was the god of the age then. Now if Satan, is the prince of this world (i.e. John 12:31, John 16:11) and if also, Jesus calls Satan, the ruler of this world (i.e. John 14:30), why do you suddenly have a problem and convenient change of mind with 2 Corinthians 4:4 inferring Satan?

Sulele04:
The church says the mark of the beast is 666.
But this says an entire different thing.
What is the mark of the beast and also when is Shabbat day

donnie:
There is a system that has already been in play since the days of the apostles of the MESSIAH. That system is controlled by ROME/ Babylon.

The whole world is already subject to the beast system. The Christian churches are major players in the beast system. They don't know why they break all YAH's commandments and keep all those pagan practices. It's the system, and they don't resist it because they are part of it.

That's why they're only deceiving themselves, thinking they will run or resist the mark like they see in Hollywood movies. Because though they haven't yet received a physical mark, they already worship the beast and his system. Taking whatever mark or signing any allegiance will come naturally.

If you believed the white Jesus lie, you will take whatever it is that's coming. Can't you see how African leaders are waiting for white man to bring a cure for Covid19 even with all the Herbs and so-called scientists we have in Africa? They all serve the beast system.
The white man is the god of this world.
If you believe the Commandments are irrelevant today, you worship the beast system. If you celebrate birthdays, Christmas, Easter, Velentine, Thanksgiving etc. You are already a participant in the beast system.

SHABBAT is the 7th day which is the REST of YAHUAH. Those who are YAHUAH's keep the Shabbat. Those who worship the beast break it

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@ "The white man is the god of this world"

"Satan, who is the god of this world,
has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe.
They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News.
They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God"
- 2 Corinthians 4:4

Sulele04, if you know what's good for you, you wouldn't take notice of this explicit racial bias poster with the donnie moniker.

Shaitan, is the god of this world, but you can see, how typically, this Baba, has twisted the Bible with that big fat lie, that the white man, is the god of this world, this all, so to suit his perverted ideals, opinions, goals, hopes and murky dark unholy agenda. He is a tool in Shaitan's workshop and most of all his posts indicates that Shaitan is his major influence

Tranquill:
Africans especially Nigerians have abused everything they have inherited from the white man. Schools, military, church, law enforcement, Facebook, democracy, election, law and order etc infact everything you can think of.

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wickedtuna:
You are just a troll..lol thats all there is to all you your long talk

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You're just a toilet porcelain pooh stain

Now, look at you a speck ofsoot, with your weak posts, trying to call an iceberg snow, black. You really need to reassess your reason for troll mentioning me. The so called Sub Saharan African superior science and technology inventions list that you promised, is still found wanting. The Chinese, to date, taking over from the British, are the ones, assisting the whole Sub Saharan Africa upandan the place, in setting up and building their railroad network

donnie:
Not only were the Pharisees known to be hypocrites, MESSIAH accused them of making man-made laws which are not according to TORAH. You need understanding.

You have just there hit on a home truth about yourself. The unpleasant fact about yourself, like I always have informed you, is that you are kofam and bonafide hypocrite and for this, except you repent, you, according to Matthew 5:20, will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

donnie:
Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Tell me... the laws that are written in our hearts by this Covenant (Jeremiah 31:33), is it so that we will not keep them? What you don't know is that the limitations have now been removed. The laws of YAH that we struggled with have now become part of our being, having been written in our hearts.

Why I am not surprised that you are struggling with keeping the 613 or six hundred thirteen commandments revealed to Moses, where 365 being prohibitions equal in number to the days of the year, and 248 being mandates corresponding in number to the bones of the human body.

donnie:
That's the meaning of the new birth or being born again. It is not to make you lawless

But if you are led by the Spirit,
you are not under the Law."
- Galatians 5:18

"We also know that the law is made not for the righteous
but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious
for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,"
- 1 Timothy 1:9

You, just like Nicodemus, have no idea, what being born again (i.e. born from high) means. Smh.

Baba, who have you read campaigning for lawlessness anywhere on this thread or forum? You know yourself that you are a rebellious, ungodly, unholy, irreverent person, so the reason, why you need the crutch of 613 laws to lean on, but which unfortunately, even the crutch is, impossible to have you straighten up with

donnie:
REPENT ISRAEL... REPENT.

"Yet you ask, “Why?”
It is because the LORD has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth,
against whom you have broken faith, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant"
- Malachi 2:14

Do you, at all, know the difference between a promise and law? Do you know the difference between a covenant and commandment? Do you know the difference between an agreement and statute? I doubt you do, but of course, you would be familiar with and/or know how village people keep covenant(s) nah. In Yoruba parlance, they will say, "Oti mu ilẹ" loosely translated means "Such person has entered into a covenant with mister or missus X"

donnie fyi, Jeremiah 31:31, clearly and leaving no room for doubts, is talking about a covenant. It is not talking about any law, not any commandment and also not any statute, but is talking about a pledge, promise, agreement, vow, bond, oath, assurance, word of honour et cetera

Baba, please, grab a seat to sit down on and hold tight, because now here is an opportunistic moment for you to seize and take advantage of an education concerning examples of covenants in the Bible.

The first covenant, in the bible, was the agreement between God and Adam. It is known as the “the covenant of works” or a “covenant with creation” Hosea 6:7, makes reference of it, when it states, "But they, like Adam, have transgressed the covenant; there they were unfaithful to Me."

"So Moses took the blood, sprinkled it on the people, and said,
"This is the blood of the covenant that the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words.""
- Exodus 24:8

"Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD,
when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah"
- Jeremiah 31:33

"After supper he took another cup of wine and said,
“This cup is the new covenant between God and his people
an agreement confirmed with my blood, which is poured out as a sacrifice for you."
- Luke 22:20

"And He has qualified us as ministers of a new covenant,
not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life"
- 2 Corinthians 3:6

Malachi 2:14, was up there above, is an example of human-human covenant, there are plenty of them in the bible, nations forming alliances with each other et cetera, but when talking of divine-human covenants in the Bible, the major ones, namely are the:
1/ Noahic covenant (i.e. this referenced in Genesis 9:8-17)
2/ Abrahamic covenant (i.e. this referenced in Genesis 15:17-18, Genesis 17:9-16, Genesis 22:16-18)
2b/ Isaac-Abrahamic covenant (i.e. this referenced in Genesis 17:21)
3/ Mosaic covenant or Old Covenant (i.e. this referenced in Exodus 19:5-6, Exodus 24:7-8, Numbers 17:8, Hebrews 9:4)
4/ Davidic covenant (i.e. this referenced in 2 Samuel 7:8-11) and
5/ the New Covenant (i.e. this is referenced in Jeremiah 31:31, Luke 22:20, Matthew 26:28, Mark 14:24, Romans 11:27, 1 Corinthians 11:25)

"And they said, "We see clearly that Yahweh has been with you,
so we thought let there be an oath between us between us and you
and let us {make} a covenant with you"
- Genesis 26:28

"You are not to make a covenant with them or with their gods"
- Exodus 23:32

"Watch yourself so that you do not make a covenant (solemn agreement, treaty)
with the inhabitants of the land into which you are going,
or it will become a [dangerous] trap among you"
- Exodus 34:12

"and when the Lord your God gives them over to you and you defeat them,
then you shall utterly destroy them.
You shall not make a covenant (treaty) with them nor show mercy and compassion to them"
- Deuteronomy 7:2

"My promise to them will be fulfilled when I take away their sins.
(i.e. And then they shall have the covenant which comes from my presence,
whenever I shall have forgiven their sins)"
- Romans 11:27

From the immediate above bible verses, we see that covenant means an agreement between two or more parties, and as particularly seen from Romans 11:27 above, God's pledge was fulfilled, with the blood of Yahusua, (i.e. as covenants, often, always involves blood shedding of some sort) after which, from our sins being taking away, we got redeemed and reconciled back to God. Praise YAH. Alleluia.

wickedtuna:
Many advances in metallurgy and tool making were made across the entirety of ancient Africa. These include steam engines, metal chisels and saws, copper and iron tools and weapons, nails, glue, carbon steel and bronze weapons and art.

Advances in Tanzania, Rwanda and Uganda between 1,500 and 2,000 years ago surpassed those of Europeans then and were astonishing to Europeans when they learned of them. Ancient Tanzanian furnaces could reach 1,800°C — 200 to 400°C warmer than those of the Romans

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All mouth and no trousers.

wickedtuna, if Sub Saharan African ancestors really had original, superior science and technology inventions, why did Sub Saharan African ancestors resort to kidnapping, stealing, shackling up and selling off their brothers, sisters, daughters, sons, uncles, aunties, grandmas, grandpas, nephews, nieces, neighbour, to trade for guns, cheap whisky, intoxicating throat burning hot drinks, mirrors et cetera, huh?

MuttleyLaff:
I have always, from start zero, maintained that Jesus is neither white skinned nor was He black-skinned. That has always been my position, from word, go.

Even if you don't know anything about history, conventional wisdom and intelligence would at least, let you know that, the people group originally inhabiting the Mediterranean Sea region could never have been black-skinned and they would have never be white-skinned either. It is a no brainer that they naturally would be in between what is classed as black-skinned and white-skinned. Its not rocket science. It is not trying to make fetch happen. It is what it is. Jesus was never black skinned and He wasn't ever white skinned either. Period

Tbh, I careless, if Jesus is seen as pink, green, purple, or burgundy, but what I wouldn't tolerate, is one people group set out on a campaign to demonise another entire people group. I would not watch one people group have an agenda to dehumanise the entirety of another people group. Just as there are immoral and amoral persons within black-skinned (i.e. Negroid), so we have similar bad traits within other races like the Caucasoid and Mongoloid. No one race has a monopoly of bad behaviour and/or has exclusivity of behaving badly

We are the architects of whatever woes befell us, and we should not be looking for scape goats or someone else in other people groups to blame for whatever suffering, set backs, torment, agonies, hell on earth experiences et cetera we seem to be subject to.

What Baba has craftily done is play on people's emotion instability, he's served tea, stirred with a touch teeny weeny dash of evil and strong potent of deadly poison in it, this then makes it become impossible, for who is alert, to drink just "tea". Smh

donnie is a notorious conman of words. He is like a colorful toad, attractive, but poisonous. Pick him up, cuddle and kiss, at your own peril

I dedicate the inspiration of my last remark to kkins\25

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wickedtuna:
Is the context where it has brought us, or who started it? Lol you have a forked tongue muttley, it doesn't look good on you o my friend

Did you type metallurgy and tools up there, huh? What a cheek considering that African ancestors kidnapped, stole, shackled up and sold off their brothers, sisters, daughters, sons, uncles, aunties, grandmas, grandpas, nephews, nieces, neighbour, for guns, cheap whisky, intoxicating throat burning hot drinks, mirrors.

If Sub Saharan African ancestors really had original, superior science and technology inventions, why did Sub Saharan African ancestors resort to kidnapping, stealing, shackling up and selling off their brothers, sisters, daughters, sons, uncles, aunties, grandmas, grandpas, nephews, nieces, neighbour, to trade for guns, cheap whisky, intoxicating throat burning hot drinks, mirrors et cetera, huh?

As you should discern from the above mention post, I am dont have a forked tongue. I simply, am just being objective. I am not letting any afrocentric bias, prevent me from, saying things as they are, appear and look. The Whiteman is not the cause of the woes, afflictions, suffering, misfortune, setbacks et cetera of the Blackman.

Greed, idolatry, wickedness, cruelties, iniquities, covetousness, identify thefts, low self esteem, inferiority complex, post Atlantic slave trade syndrome, blaming others than the Blackman, pomposity, arrogance, ignorance, biblical illiteracy, bible uneducation, et cetera are the context what brought us to the point we are and we ourselves, started it

wickedtuna:
Hopeless What about Math, Astrology, Metallurgy and tools, Architecture and engineering, medicine and Navigation. Who did you think first started them? Muttley you read book so tey you dey yarn rubbish? Haba!

My dear loving friend and brother, please bring forth this coveted list of engineering breakthroughs, medicine researches, technologies/technological feats, mind boggling inventions et cetera from the Sub Saharan Africa, that we are enjoying the benefit of, that has given added value to the average black man's lives living in Sub Saharan Africa.

Whoever started them, what benefit have the Sub Saharan Africa engineering breakthroughs, medicine researches, technologies/technological feats, mind boggling inventions et cetera, that, you haven't yet produced, as you promised, brought to our development?

Why aren't we, with them Sub Saharan Africa engineering breakthroughs, medicine researches, technologies/technological feats, mind boggling inventions et cetera, not in the forefront, not in leading places and/or most important positions of life, hmm?

wickedtuna:
And you dont think black slaves built these empires?

We are discussing technologies, you foolishly are talking of empires. Who the empires epp? Why didnt the empires protect Africans from getting kidnapped, stolen and sold into slavery hmm? My guy, abeggy swerve, you are too small to my number.

wickedtuna:
Lmao you really live up to your name Muttley, good old cunning muttley.

Point of correction, the moniker I use is MuttleyLaff and not Muttley. There is a history behind the moniker and a reason why I formulated the MuttleyLaff portmanteau moniker.

wickedtuna:
wait i will bring a list including lagos ibadan. www.realhistoryww.com

Good luck with bringing forward a list.

The Lagos - Ibadan Expressway, the oldest expressway in country and commissioned by Baba OBJ himself, is a shadow of itself. The last time I travelled on it, it was as if I travelled through the valley of the shadow of death. Do you see, how long, how many years it is taking Africans to rehabilitate the dismal expressway, huh?

wickedtuna:
lol he just gave you a comprehensive list of black inventions.

You certainly did spend some time in your life within the four walls of a somewhat teaching place to equip you with some semblance of intelligence enough to allow you know the difference between African Americans based in the United States of America and Africans based in Sub Saharan Africa.

wickedtuna:
It is only common sense that these people have roots.

For the sake of discussion and common sense that these people have roots, please explain why non of those comprehensive list of black inventions are replicated in Sub Saharan Africa. Why is Sub Saharan Africa still lagging behind? Why haven't any black inventions originated from Sub Saharan Africa?

I asked for technology from Sub Saharan Africa, that donnie alleged were stolen, but all the Baba could muster and manage to produce were black inventions done by Africa Americans based in United States of America. It is well.

Now, I am going to request for a Sub Saharan Africa list of a wonder, that has to be in the class of the Taj Mahal of India, Leaning Tower of Pisa in Pisa, Italy, the Great Wall of China, Great Pyramid of Giza, El Giza, Egypt, the Colosseum in the centre of the city of Rome, Italy, the The Thames Tunnel (i.e. acclaimed to be the 8th wonder of the world)

eplanning:
MuttleyLaff, Jesus (as you call him) did not come to change the law or make new ones....but to fulfill them

MuttleyLaff:
"³⁴A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another.
³⁵By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.”"
- John 13:34-35

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Yahushua made improvement with a new commandment, the law of liberty and/or the royal law.

All the laws and the prophets, were fulfilled, which is why on the closing hours of Yahushua's ministry, you read Moses and Elijah, the representatives of the law and the prophets, appearing before Yahushua, in vision in that Peter, James and John witnessed on Mount of Transfiguration.

Laws, are everlasting, even eternal, but in the presence of a stronger, more powerful, superior, better law, an older law is subdued, rendered inoperative, impotent, powerless and even useless, for inasmuch as the stronger, more powerful, superior, better law is enforced, applied and/or is retained

wickedtuna:
No way that's a new, the whole summary of the 10 commandments is to Love God and Love one another.

MuttleyLaff:
"So now I am giving you a new commandment:
Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other."
- John 13:34

You obviously arent aware of what's called the law of liberty and the royal law.

wickedtuna:
its just grammatical jargon.

The only thing the Messiah was sent was to reestablish the old laws.
Love God, Love one another.

For you to say John 13:34 is just grammatical jargon, confirmed that you are bonafide bible uneducated.

Fyi, the disagreement, isn't even about new commandment or not a new commandment, its about new law or not a new law. It is not about establishing law(s), not about renewing law(s), not about law(s) renewal or renewed law(s), but it explicitly is about a NEW COVENANT.

It is about a NEW AGREEMENT, a NEW CONTRACT, a NEW PROMISE. That is what Jeremiah 31:31 is about

donnie:
Thank you, child of truth.

Matthew 5:17-19
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid:
yea, we establish the law.

"For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees,
you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
- Matthew 5:20

Will stop proof-texting about and badly doing so all over the place

Has anyone told you that any law was destroyed? Or that anything thing was unfulfilled?

I am going to help you along after that Matthew 5:17-19 you posted with Matthew 5:20. Read Matthew 5:20 closely donnie, to see that you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven, especially going on this pathway you're treading on. Matthew 5:20, is, if you know, you know. Who no know, no go know and I feel sorry for such person.

If your Jero, had properly and contextually read Romans 3:31, you would have cop on that, the verse is entering around righteousness through faith and has nothing to do with the Jeremiah 31:31's promise or agreement to make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah

wickedtuna:
No way that's a new, the whole summary of the 10 commandments is to Love God and Love one another.

"So now I am giving you a new commandment:
Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other."
- John 13:34

You obviously arent aware of what's called the law of liberty and the royal law.

wickedtuna:
Lol c'mon Muttley Really Muttley, Really?

wickedtuna please allow me nah.

Let's see what technology exactly was stolen from sub saharan Africa, how exactly this/these technologies were stolen nah and how stealing them caused setbacks, woes, misfortunes, affliction etcetera

kumulus:
Interesting that you know my experience

I should be clear on my earlier input; there is a part of knowledge which simply means 'to know' and there's the other part which goes beyond just knowing.


For instance, most children/wards 'know' that 2×1 is 2 but only a handful can tell at those nursery ages why it is 2. Those amongst them who can have passed the first stage of knowing. I hope you see my point clearly this time.

-Lloyd

MuttleyLaff:
"¹⁶And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever;
¹⁷Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth him:
but ye know him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
- John 14:16-17

"Dear brothers and sisters, when I was with you I couldn’t talk to you as I would to spiritual people.
I had to talk as though you belonged to this world
or as though you were infants in Christ."
- 1 Corinthians 3:1

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True, one size fits all indeed, but ....

The spirit of God is meant for every human being, only that for some, they cant have the spirit of God because they belong to the world or in a cult, like in the form of an organisation and for others, they are infants in Christ, so the spirit of God, becomes like an oversized throw cover for them to put on (i.e. bigger than their normal size)

The gift of the Holy Spirit is available for anyone or all. If you arent filled to fit in it. It is either you're immature, as in it is oversized for you, but if anyone wants to argue it, then do it with 1 Corinthians 3:1 above, not with me.

Not watch this Maximus\69. When I was little, I first learned about numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 up to 10 or 20. I didn't know there were more numbers after 10 or 20, nor that there were numbers lesser than 1. Also I first learned alphabets, starting from A, B, C, D, E up to Z, I didn't first know that I could write them even as a, b, c, e ..... z.

Well as time went on, I got to learn there are quite an uncountable numbers beyond 10 or 20. I learned that 2+2=4, then soon after I learned that even 1+3=4, that 1+1+1+1=4 or 4+0=4. On the alphabet side, I later learned that stringing A, with B, B and A becomes ABBA et cetera.

There's no point going on, me rabbiting on or talking at length, as, you sure, I am certain, have gotten the drift, especially with the already above pasted picture, that shows how though one size, truly is whats provided to fit all, albeit, you still need to flesh out, you need to buff up, you need to exercise the body and flex them muscles so that you fill out to perfectly fit into the Holy Spirit garb.

1/ Maximus\69, are disagreeing with me that everyone receives the same gift/clothing/garb of the Holy Spirit, in the same measure and for the same purpose, hmm?
2/ Are you disagreeing, that it is possible to have the gift/clothing/garb of the Holy Spirit, as in the indwelling of the Holy Spirit yet not be infilled with the Holy Spirit. I mean, not filled with the Holy Spirit, in the sense that because, the Holy Spirit, will only fill into what we surrender to Him or what we yield over to Him to fill into. Sometimes, the Holy Spirit, is like an oversize cover throw, it essentially, can be bigger than our actual size, and so means, we need to buff up, as in, need to become more mature, to become stronger and more muscular, in order for the Holy Spirit to close-fittingly size us

It is exactly, what Paul, with 1 Corinthians 3:1 above is saying, some things he couldn't discuss with the Corinthians because they are/were spiritual immature, spiritually weak and so needed some spiritually growing up to do.

I too, when growing up, without even yet read or hear about a flat earth belief, somehow, just all by myself, assumed that the earth was flat

brocab:
Spread the message...

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Spread the message what & why me?

MuttleyLaff:
brocab, dont mind the overgrown scallywag.
He is of the opinion, that one can not learn from Jesus, proxy fellow human beings, who happen to be 1000% Jesus minded, 10000% Jesus orientated, 10000% Jesus' way(s) focused et cetera.

He doesnt appreciate that the Spirit of Truth individually and/or corporately, teaches, one and/or all, things (i.e. John 14:26 and John 16:13)

brocab:
Jesus sent His Spirit to teach us all things...So obviously if the Spirit belongs to Jesus-and everything Jesus say's, then the Spirit delivers..
{John 14:26}} "But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
Allow me to pray-maybe just one day-you will see fit to at least understand-the scriptures...

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What are you mentioning me here for?

donnie:
RENEW is a verb, RENEWED is an adjective. How many times will I teach you. Òde.

donnie:
All power belongs to YAH

donnie:
He resists the proud but gives grace to the humble...

donnie:
First, the so-called NEW covenant is actually a RENEWED Covenant. That's the correct Hebrew rendering- Chadash (Heb lexicon: 2318) meaning to renew, repair, restore.

In Jeremiah 31:31 we see YAH renewing, restoring, or refreshing (not replacing) his Covenant with his people.

OkCornel:
Hebrews 7 v 11-19;

¹¹ If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood
—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood
—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?
¹² For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
¹³ He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar.
¹⁴ For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
¹⁵ And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears,
¹⁶ one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry
but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life.
¹⁷ For it is declared:
“You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”
¹⁸ The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless
¹⁹ (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

Smh, because the level ignorance and arrogance displayed here are a lethal combination. Pride isn't necessarily the downfall of man, but it's man's inability to know when pride is an asset and when it's a liability.

"Wọn nsọ fun afọju, pe ojo nrọ, o ma feel ẹẹ. Aa gburo fun rarẹ" loosely translated means "dem no dey tell blind pesin, say rain dey fall, na by hinself, hin go feel am. Dont worry donnie, you soon, go copy and hearam"

The Hebrew lexicon:2318, that you proudly quoted, doesnt at all reference nor feature Jeremiah 31:31. It is Hebrew lexicon:2319, that references and features Jeremiah 31:31. It translated the Hebrew word "chadash" to mean " new" (i.e. an adjective) and never meaning " renewed" (i.e. an adjective)

You can see above, how OkCornel had tried to steer you back on the right track with Hebrews 7:11-19 reproduced as seen up there, but you still are displaying strong resistance from being corrected and paying no attention to the error of your way

The old covenant, didnt at any point stop/expire, for it, needing, to be renewed/restored. It did not go stale, for it to need refreshing. It did not fall into disrepair, for it to be repaired. The old covenant, simply put, was a shadow of a real thing, and so at the appointed time, when it was due for the real thing to take its position, the old covenant was replaced with a new covenant. Its just as simple as that, and without needing to twist, tug yank and pull the word of God apart.

MuttleyLaff:
The real mumu is you and those other two, that liked your ignorant comment

That is a picture of the statue of Siddhartha Gautama, known as The Buddha, who happened to be a spiritual teacher in the northern region of India.

The three of you, are the only ones who dont know that Buddhists are atheists. They don't believe in God and gods, don't worship a God or god.

MuttleyLaff:
Somebody it seems, is having a rough day and busy doing some serious strawman mining.

That is not an idol. It is a statue of Siddhartha Gautama, known as The Buddha and who happened to be a spiritual teacher in the northern region of India

MuttleyLaff:
Baba, the poor history student/teacher, fyi, China was introduced to the teachings of Buddhism as early as the 2nd century BCE, during China's Han Dynasty, becoming more established during the 2nd century CE, and the earliest representations of Buddha, did not start as sculptures of the human form, but rather an empty seat, footprint, tree or stupa, an architectural form eventually inspiring the creation of pagodas in China, just as I earlier had explained above. As normal, sculptural pieces will be representations of Siddhartha Gautama, often known as the "Enlightened One" or "Buddha"

You're oblivious to the fact that, what you posted is a Kemet Buddha and that, its the gymnosophist who brought Buddhism to and spread it in the Nile Valley (i.e. Egypt) lmao.

You're the last to know the origin of Buddhism, lmao. Continue with your dishing out poorly studied history, OK, lmao

Someone else, will tell you where Buddhism originated from, lmao.

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budaatum:
Anyone who has read the Dhammapada can easily tell that you obviously haven't.

Yinmu. Be deceiving yourself there and keep up the good work of enjoying your throbbing hard on

OLAADEGBU:
See how Lord\Reed and budaatum just got exposed!

Image123:
Don't mind them. Ungodly creatures. Dem no dey see fine boy leave am. Rubbish people intruding the poor brother's dream and almost messing him up. Lordubus and Budabus oshi.

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MuttleyLaff:
I have Civilization in Transition, Volume 10 of the Collected Works of C.G.Jung

MuttleyLaff:
I don't have Jung's publications on any shelves. I put my shelves away a long light years ago. I am a minimalist, I don't have shelves of books anymore

budaatum:
I wonder which is the lie. One of them certainly is, though I'm certain to be told how less than 2 years ago is "long light years ago" in your deciphering of the "the original Aramaic and Greek texts".

It is only a lazy brain, that's incapable of working out, that e-libraries comprises of soft copies publications/books

What is considered long-term, is usually any period of time above 3 years. I have stopped having shelves, well longer than 3 years ago, but saw dust for brains, doesn't want to appreciate this and/or comprehend that.

OLAADEGBU:
See how Lord\Reed and budaatum just got exposed!

Image123:
Don't mind them. Ungodly creatures. Dem no dey see fine boy leave am. Rubbish people intruding the poor brother's dream and almost messing him up. Lordubus and Budabus oshi.

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MuttleyLaff:
Please slowly and carefully re-read the post you quoted, to see what I said belief is

When the earth was believed to be flat, was this assertion, proven to be true, when that belief was in vogue, hmm?

I will stop quoting you when you stop falsely tagging me a liar and desist from peddling rumours that misrepresents me

budaatum:
Those who tell lies are liars.

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Maximus69:
Thank God i'm not a freethinker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXLic4-JH4Q
Are You a Free Thinker?
Take the Test

budaatum:
Beliefs are never based on facts, muttley. As soon as you have facts and evidence for a belief the belief becomes knowledge. That's the reason you'd never believe your mother is your mother or your wife is married to you. You ought to know who your mother is and whom your wife married.

Please slowly and carefully re-read the post you quoted, to see what I said belief is

When the earth was believed to be flat, was this assertion, proven to be true, when that belief was in vogue, hmm?

budaatum:
Stop quoting me, liar!

I will stop quoting you when you stop falsely tagging me a liar and desist from peddling rumours that misrepresents me

budaatum:
I wonder which is the lie. One of them certainly is, though I'm certain to be told how less than 2 years ago is "long light years ago" in your deciphering of the "the original Aramaic and Greek texts".

Please quit unnecessarily straining yourself, stressing yourself up, giving yourself an unduly hbp and unjustifiably being an old fart. I ceased using shelves, when I, a long time ago converted to being a minimalist and resorted to having an e-library

budaatum:
It was still a belief, which goes to show that beliefs can have no factual foundation.

Thank you for reinforcing the point I made, that the belief about the earth being flat, was a speculation, a fantasy, an opinion and not a belief based on fact nor reality

sonmvayina:
Continue lying.. If it makes you sleep at night.. No wahala

Why not stretch your hands into the fire place nah. Show me your favourite factual error(s) in the original Aramaic/Greek texts

budaatum:
I'm certain you say this because you read the Bible in "the original Aramaic and Greek texts". Or is that not so?
I think you lie just like you lied about Jung on your shelve.

I have resource tools that assist me in reading and deciphering "the original Aramaic and Greek texts". We thank God for the gift of technology.

I don't have Jung's publications on any shelves. I put my shelves away a long light years ago. I am a minimalist, I don't have shelves of books anymore

budaatum:
How did you get there before me? Lol.

Its prolly because birds of the same feathers flock together. Its a no-brainer

kumulus:
You can't accept(believe) what you don't know.

Hence, 'knowledge' births belief.

-Lloyd

budaatum:
That's not quite true. If you consider your own experience you'd find you've at times believed things you know but later found not to be knowledge. An example is the one time belief that the earth was flat which was later found to be based on ignorance.

Essentially, we believe precisely because we do not know the truth. Some of the things believed are pure ignorance.

The one time belief that the earth was flat was based on an opinion and not a fact

Opinions, changes, but facts don't change. Opinions don't affect facts. But facts, do affect opinions, and make opinions change. The problem is, too many people don't know the difference between what's fact and what's opinion. Opinions change, facts don't because facts are based on reality. The one time belief, that the earth was flat, was based on a fantasy/speculation (i.e. an opinion) and not reality (i.e. a fact)

budaatum:
I'll listen to you when you've read the books mentioned.

Please desist from being specious because as a matter of fact, I not only have all these books in my e-library but I actually have, at one time or the other, read each and/or all the books

budaatum:
As for factual errors in the Quran, errors exist in the Bible too as no book is perfect on these things.

You might find errors in Bible translations, but no, there are no factual errors in or with the original Aramaic and Greek texts

macof:
I thought you said Africa was uninhabited. Only recently populated by people from Israel, Assyria and so on

donnie:
I never said so... You're not listening, or simply blinded by white magic

You, simply must have been blinded by your village people's "black magic," for you, to be this degenerate, ignoble, discreditable, shameful and deplorable person, you have become. What a pitiful sight, you are, to behold.

donnie:
I have never seen someone argue as foolishly as me (i.e. edited, by replacing you with me).

Or is it on purpose, so as to be seen as making a point? Is there any translation approved from heaven? Every serious student of the scriptures knows the value to comapritive study.
[s]I have the eth Cepher in hard copy I bought for 50k and a digital copy, same with the KJV, 1611 KJV etc. I love the KJV, but sometimes, it doesn't convey the truth as it should. I can use any translation I choose at any time.

Rome seized the scriptures from those to whom they were addressed. Now they try to interprete scripture in a way that favours their wickedness.

Study the scriptures without your Eurocentric lenses and you will see clearly. But for now, you have told so many lies to support white Jesus and a Eurocentric version of everything. YOU ARE LOST.... How you can then see truth?[/s]

If a Bible translation doesn't suit your afrocentric, dubious, heretic, false, misleading, racist and ignorant view(s), you quickly jettison it, the same way you unceremoniously abandoned the "Blue Letter Bible" interlinear/lexicon, you earlier used and designed up with fanciful red colour highlighted fat big red arrow tick marks and underlines, hmm?

Eat your heart below, to see from the same "Blue Letter Bible" interlinear/lexicon that you earlier proudly posted, how Jeremiah 31:31's "chadash," is translated as, an adjective and correctly rendering the word "chadash," as "new," and not renewed, a verb

macof:
for the first time you finally stopped screaming black skin

The only thing that remains is for you to realise that you having reddish brown skin and most middle easterners having reddish brown skin doesn't mean your people are middle eastern in origin

Especially when you consider that most people in your ethnic group do not have reddish brown skin like you.

Baba, is a heretic, scammer, fraudster, identity thief, liar, deceiver, a by all means necessary wannabe Israelite, a better late than never, JJC lately, stubborn grasshopper, that always ends up, in the belly of the bird.

Look at the way, he abandoned the earlier "Blue Letter Bible" Lexicon he posted from with all the red highlighted marked up arrows and underlines, to now settle for an incorrectly rendered "Eth Cepher" Jeremiah 31:31 version , when the same "Blue Letter Bible" Lexicon has Jeremiah 31:31 "chadash," translated as an adjective and rendered the word as new and not renewed, a verb

What a dishonest and hypocrite saw dust for brain, senile quadragenarian Baba he is

donnie:
The bible translation I use (Eth Cepher) has the correct Word RENEWED.

Such fraudulent translations as yours will only appeal to the wicked. You have been warned.
That's my goal... To bear witness to the truth so that you all are without excuse.

Who were the translators of the CEPHER? (i.e. Eth Cepher)

Most of our work was transliteration, rather than translation. The translations were accomplished through Strong's concordance, with cross references to other translation software programs, to the extent that translation was used. We relied on existing English translations which were in the public domain (Tyndale, the 1611 KJV, , the Stephanus Textus Receptus, and the Masoretic Hebrew) as foundational texts.

Viewing the original 1611 KJV with archaic English spelling.
Click to switch to the Standard KJV.

Jeremiah Chapter 31 verse 31
¶ Behold, the dayes come, saith the Lord, that I will make a newe couenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Iudah.
(i.e. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:)

If the Founder and President of Cepher Publishing Group, LLC., Dr. Stephen Pidgeon (i.e. a white man incidentally) and your beloved Eth Cepher claims they used the 1611 KJV, as one of their foundational texts, then kindly notice, how the 1611 KJV used and/or has the correct phrase a newe couenant or new covenant and never translated/transliterated "chadash," as used in Jeremiah 31:31, to mean "renewed"

sonmvayina:
read this and tell me what you think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism%27s_view_of_Jesus

You do know that Jesus was at loggerheads with four major establishments, hmm, namely, marketeers, teachers/scribes, lawyers and Pharisees/Sadducees, hmm?

The fourth, in that group, as returning exiles, imported Judaism to the Southern kingdom of Judah. There was no love lost between then and Jesus

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donnie:
The bible translation I use (Eth Cepher) has the correct Word RENEWED.

Such fraudulent translations as yours will only appeal to the wicked. You have been warned.
That's my goal... To bear witness to the truth so that you all are without excuse.

Baba, that list above you pulled up, was obtained from "Blue Letter Bible" Lexicon and not from no "Eth Cepher"

Stop being dishonest