Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 7:30am On Jul 08, 2020*. Modified: 7:54am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: WAYO MuttleyLaff speaking with both sides of his mouth. MuttleyLaff Trinity is limited. MuttleyLaff Infinity is unlimited The joke is on you. You want me to give you attention so you'll start performing more like the clown that you are. " O fẹ gun kiniun lẹsin, ẹrin ẹ pa mi" loosely translated means " you risk your live, attempting to ride a lion, like as if, its a horse, you make me laugh" If I should throw you a set and couple of easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, you'll defo wince, go hide and will be able to give answers to them, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 1:30am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: Exodus 20:4-5, "There is NOTHING in heaven or earth comparable to Yahweh. Yahweh El-shaddai have absolutely no triune contemporaries
John 4:24 "God is a spirit", said Jesus. How many person is that spirit in John 4:24? Dey there dey console yourself with Triune JUNK  [img] https://s1/images/TruthBarkWrong-Tree.jpg[/img] Triune/trinity is limited. Infinity is unlimited. Duh. If only you could just develop some steel balls to answer these three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked, you just might have the blinkers drop off 1/ How did the God appeared to Moses? 2/ How did God reveal Himself to Moses? 3/ God personally appeared to Moses how? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 1:02am On Jul 08, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 12:39am On Jul 08, 2020 |
[quote author=Lord\Reed post=91492044]Muttley just delivered a dropkick. LMAO! [img] https://media1./images/e4e4730bdc422c5f75b1126926077485/tenor.gif?itemid=4838544[/img][/quote] MuttleyLaff: You must have got something to hide that is preventing you from having the courage to answer those easy, simple, innocent, harmless, direct and straightforward questions.
For you to use "... your fellow trinitarians ..." betrays a deficit in understanding what the phrase means and implies. In spite knowing what my position is (i.e. that, God is infinite or infinity et cetera), you still went ahead to turn this personal and dishonestly lump with me with a wrong and myopic view setting. Smh. DappaD: Of course I know your stand quite alright. You're of the opinion that God exists in multiple forms at different places. Which is just one of the versions of trinity. So yes it doesn't make you any different from the trinitarians I tagged you along with. Trinity is limited. Infinity is unlimited. Duh. If only you could just develop some steel balls to answer these three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked, you just might have the blinkers drop off 1/ How did the God appeared to Moses? 2/ How did God reveal Himself to Moses? 3/ God personally appeared to Moses how? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 12:21am On Jul 08, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: ... my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person.
God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity.
God is someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom, didnt allow the the word trinity, to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol
Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.
God can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him
Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28
Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of.
This isnt news anymore
DappaD: Boy, you don't get the drift. You don't come up and ask me trash. Those questions are meant for your fellow trinitarians since you lot can't come to an accurate definition of your trinity dog god You must have got something to hide that is preventing you from having the courage to answer those easy, simple, innocent, harmless, direct and straightforward questions. For you to use " ... your fellow trinitarians ..." betrays a deficit in understanding what the phrase means and implies. In spite knowing what my position is (i.e. that, God is infinite or infinity et cetera), you still went ahead to turn this personal and dishonestly lump with me with a wrong and myopic view setting. Smh. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 12:20am On Jul 08, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: ... my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person. God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so [b]God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity[/b].
God is someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the the word trinity to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol
Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.
God can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him
Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28
Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of.
This isnt news anymore
DappaD: Boy, you don't get the drift. You don't come up and ask me trash. Those questions are meant for your fellow trinitarians since you lot can't come to an accurate definition of your trinity dog god You must have got something to hide that is preventing you from having the courage to answer those easy, simple, innocent, harmless, direct and straightforward questions. For you to use " ... your fellow trinitarians ..." betrays a deficit in understanding what the phrase means and implies. In spite knowing what my position is (i.e. God is , you still went ahead to turn this personal and dishonestly lump with me with a wrong and myopic view setting. Smh. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 12:03am On Jul 08, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: contemplating on the questions and answers Wait o, on a serious note, why can't he give answers to the three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they were asked? he's-scared-of-outrightly-giving-the-answers-to-the-three-easy-simple-harmless-innocent-direct-and-straightforward-questions  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 11:57pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 11:51pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: I wouldn't know, it's like any of you can just ask him, my guess you'll all have a different answer. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, so here is an opportunity to taste the pudding. 1/ How did the God appeared to Moses? 2/ How did God reveal Himself to Moses? 3/ God personally appeared to Moses how? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 11:39pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 11:38pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: I'm not choosing sides, but a God wants to split himself into a million pieces it's possible. God is not limited to a million pieces split. This is a fact thats incontestable |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 11:38pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Janosky: John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15 have solved this GIBBERISH you take dey console yourself Please just answer the questions in the same format and numbered up style they were asked, instead of this not amusing circus display of yours |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 11:38pm On Jul 07, 2020*. Modified: 12:57am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Maximus69: OK now i get you! 
According to the Bible verse you quoted, Jehovah is just one person not he is neither the son nor the holy spirit!  Jehovah is one, just as same as Maximus69, is one. According to the Bible verse I quoted, similarly Maximus69's Nairaland posted text, Maximus69 the other half of Trivina, Maximus69, the dad, husband, brother, uncle, friend, nephew, grandson, son, sibling, et cetera, Maximus69, the spirit man, Maximus69 et cetera, are all one. Please, now just answer those earlier asked three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they were asked, instead of all this hide and seek charade |
Christianity Etc › Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by MuttleyLaff: 11:17pm On Jul 07, 2020*. Modified: 11:41pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:54pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Sorry I still can't understand this questions of yours. Who are the three persons and what has God got to do with them?  "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one" (i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)" - Deuteronomy 6:4God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one. Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:38pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
[quote author=GRIMM\JOE post=91488812]I'm guessing this is the reason MuttleyLaff was saying a God doesn't have limit, because you just gave him one. He has a plan to right the wrong, a God that wants to right the wrong can simply do this by blinking.[/quote] Maximus69: He surely has limits!  Only bullies don't have limits, once they feel like this is how things should be they take charge.
You can see that when you drive against the one way, if soldiers catch you, they'll deal ruthlessly with you for breaking the traffic rules but when something urgent comes up, they themselves will do exactly the same thing. God has all the power to right the wrong at a go but he respects our freewill and want us to learn from the consequences of demanding for absolute freedom, something different from the relative freedom that we truly deserve!  MuttleyLaff: Maximus69, please give one instance of God, ever, breaking any explicit stated rule Maximus69: I don't understand your question! OK, I'll ask with another set of questions. 1/ Is God limited to only three persons? 2/ Does God have the capability of expressing Himself to us in more than three persons? 3/ Does God have the power to reveal Himself to anyone/anything, other than in the three persons? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:28pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: He surely has limits!  Only bullies don't have limits, once they feel like this is how things should be they take charge.
You can see that when you drive against the one way, if soldiers catch you, they'll deal ruthlessly with you for breaking the traffic rules but when something urgent comes up, they themselves will do exactly the same thing. God has all the power to right the wrong at a go but he respects our freewill and want us to learn from the consequences of demanding for absolute freedom, something different from the relative freedom that we truly deserve!  Maximus69, please give one instance of God, ever, breaking any explicit stated rule |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:05pm On Jul 07, 2020*. Modified: 10:25pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: You cracked me up yesterday, leaving me bursting out in laughter on the public walkway reading this comment and especially the last sentence above.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb8KZps4woA Those arent brothers in the above video, that's one person, and it is Agent Smith, from the film Matrix Just look at that kkins\25! Beautiful isnt it? That's child play for God to do, meaning easy for God to do more than one place at the same time within the same dimension or multi dimension
kkins\25, did you see how Agent Smith was multiplying himself, by saying more, huh? Did you watch him being in more than one place at the same time within the same dimension, hmm? Is it far fetch or difficult to believe, that God can do more and better than multiplying Himself like done by Agent Smith, in that sci-fi film, erhn? Is it something hard for God to, as well do, huh?
DappaD: I didn't want to revisit this  But nobody is putting limit on God oga You think you aren't putting limit on God oga, huh? OK, explain why are you limiting God to three persons then? DappaD: Jehovah God is ONE Spirit Being and not a multidimensional entity. (Deuteronomy 6:4)  " Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one" (i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)- Deuteronomy 6:4Will you already stop proof-texting with Deuteronomy 6:4, a verse you barely understand and don't appreciate its meaning  You just enjoy making up things not said and relish the thought to lie sha. Where in the above quote, did you get anything said about multidimensional entity from, hmm? Dont you undestand the meaning of being in more than one place at the same time within the same dimension, DappaD: Imagine you were even comparing God to a guy in an action movie, the Matrix. The height of disrespect  " 9You parents—if your children ask for a loaf of bread, do you give them a stone instead? 10Or if they ask for a fish, do you give them a snake? Of course not! 11So if you sinful people, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father, give good gifts to those who ask Him." - Matthew 7:9-11I wonder, whom, in Matthew 7:9-11, Jesus was comparing God to. The height of ignorance some display on this thread  |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 4:20pm On Jul 07, 2020*. Modified: 5:15pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 2:16pm On Jul 07, 2020*. Modified: 5:07pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 9:46am On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Thanks Sir, it's done!  You've just earned yourself, the first like for the jpeg |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 9:33am On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Thanks, where can one get the "edit profile"? Click on the " Maximus69" hyperlink. That should bring up your profile page and from there at the top, you'll see " Edit Profile" |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 7:53am On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: .Please how do i add my pics to the profile? I've been trying to see where to edit it, that's why i've been trying to reach you to know. Though my wife made me a Nairalander, as she's always reading and laughing at funny comments, she set everything but both of us can't figure out how to add pics to the profile. Maybe it's because we're both old-school!  www.nairaland.com/attachments/10470884_screenshot20191028174522_jpeg5a6ef6b6df60f5480484134f447379771/ Go to " Edit Profile" from where you can make Edits to your Profile 2/ Click on " Choose file" to pick up the preferred picture on your PC/laptop/smartphone 3/ Click on " Update Profile" to finish and have picture display |
Christianity Etc › Re: How GOD Will Handle The Two Homosexuals by MuttleyLaff: 5:22pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro: What fidelity are you talking about when the two adults are not married to anybody? Of not being sexually promiscuous HedwigesMaduro: And what I replied to was your MUTUAL CONSENT logic. They both are adults aren't they? OK, what's with " mutual consent" then, that you are griping about? HedwigesMaduro: Didn't see where we started any talk on infidelity. You then need to go re-examine my post that you quoted and did a reply to You are even lucky that I dignified you a response, especially when you had given a false and misleading account of what I had typed |
Christianity Etc › Re: How GOD Will Handle The Two Homosexuals by MuttleyLaff: 1:01pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro: According to you fornicators are not doing anything wrong, as far as they are adults and there is mutual consent? How did you come to this absurd conclusion? Fyi and for starters, fornicators are abusing fidelity. I am sure you understand what fidelity in this context, means |
Christianity Etc › Re: Organized Christianity by MuttleyLaff: 6:48am On Jul 06, 2020 |
Rozz: what are you saying sef You are " called out" to a peculiar and prestige existence, for a peculiar reason, for a peculiar purpose, for a peculiar benefit et cetera |
Christianity Etc › Re: Organized Christianity by MuttleyLaff: 4:35am On Jul 06, 2020 |
ichuka: The people shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations. (Numbers 23:9)
Not reckoned among the nations. Oh, that is glorious! That puts Israel not only apart from the nations, but on top of the nations. Now, if there has been one thing which Satan has ever tried to do with the people of God in all ages, it has been to get them reckoned among the nations. I speak solemnly and carefully. Right at the very heart of Christendom as we have it today is the desire to be recognized. Recognition! Everything that organized Christianity does is to gain recognition. What are all these churches? I mean, in this instance, all these elaborate and imposing buildings. They are to gain recognition. They are in order to be reckoned something. To what end is all the procedure, the advertisement, and the much else besides? It is in order to get recognition, to be accredited here on this earth, to be reckoned. Yes, that is Satan's triumph. That is where spiritual power has gone out. That is where the Church has ceased to be something to be reckoned with up there. It has, in spirit, come down here, to be reckoned among the nations. If only Satan can get the people of God into a position where they are taken up by this world, written up by this world, made something of by this world, he has triumphed and pulled the Church down out of its heavenly place and made it an earthly thing. That is the principle right through the Old Testament. That too is seen to be the trouble in the Revelation. God will not have it. Satan's success is along that line. He has pulled the Church out of the heavens. Somewhere he has made it touch earth, form a link in some way with earth.
What we have just said does touch us in so many ways, yes, in countless things, this question of being reckoned among the nations in principle, this coming down from the heavenly position. The Lord never meant His Church on this earth to be something that would be taken up by this world, to be something that would be reckoned among the things of this world, recognized and accredited by this world. What He meant, and what obtained when things were right, was that the world itself could not bear the presence of the Church, did not want it. That is the power of the Church to testify against the world But if I tarry long, that thou may know how it is expedient to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} of the living God, the pillar and base of the truth. - 1 Timothy 3:15 Jubilee Bible 2000One of the major philosophical teaching of Jesus, in His capacity, as man and divinity, is about one body, ekklesia, being called out. The ruling civilization of that Jesus time period, were the Greeks and normally " ekklesia" is the assembly of free citizens, whom have judicial and legislative power, that aliens, slaves and the likes were excluded, but here is Jesus, turning this whole political concept on its head, and now talking about having a gathering of citizens (i.e. any member of the demos or all people, as demo means people) no discrimination, no prejudices, no sexism etcetera called out from their homes into public space and to partake, deliberate, legislate and be become fully inclusive in the sovereign governing body's services, expectations and/or requirement. Praise God. Alleluia. The point, to be taken away from here, is that God is Christianity atheistic, Christian atheistic and even Christian denomination(s) atheistic. He believes in plain and simple " ekklesia," His body. He doesnt believe in organized Christianity. He believes in nothing else than " ekklesia," His Bride |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jephtah And His Sacrifice. Did He Really Do It by MuttleyLaff: 3:02am On Jul 06, 2020*. Modified: 3:35am On Jul 06, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Response To The Allegory In The Garden Of Eden's Account Of The Fall by MuttleyLaff: 9:04pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
RuggedSniper: @Sonmvayina, thanks for the feedback and I had to respond to your VERY BRILLIANT post because you were spot on when you mentioned Ezra! I will post more info on the SUN GODS and how the Jesus of the bible is a personification of the SUN... OR SUN OF GOD, here within 4 days when get better health-wise. People NEED TO READ MORE and break away from religious indigestion. Ifedayo Olarinde (aka Daddy Freeze) and Reno Omokri are trying to do this online via ... But there are still some loopholes in their teachings without the reference to the Zoroastrians Ezra and Cyrus' roles in creating the foundation of the Persian colonial religion Judaism. All the best Ifedayo Olarinde (aka Daddy Freeze) and Reno Omokri are JJC latelies. Check Nairaland Religion forum timeline to see how, well before Ifedayo Olarinde (aka Daddy Freeze) and Reno Omokirikiri, others had gone loggerheads at the penterascal hierarchy for their excesses, bad indoctrinations, filthy lucre sense of entitlement, obtaining pecuniary advantage by deceptions, immoralities of every scale and levels, insensitivities et cetera |