CSTR2:

The north is politically homogeneous to a large extent.
The south is not.

The political realities are different.
If the south was under a single political ideology, then yes, you would have that luxury.

Until the south unifies, then Igbos need to Stay within reality, not emotions.

The core north you mean and that unity is only because or shared religion but that is just 2 out of 6 zones in Nigeria while the middle belt can swing both ways depending on who is contesting.

Politics is a game of interest, the mover and shakers in the political parties will align and realigned to support whoever will best preserve their interest while furthermore keeping the country as one.

If the Igbos play their game well that have a better chance than the core north because they have the south-south as a natural ally and can get the sentiment of not to have lead Nigeria before couple with the fact that the northern minorities and Christian will easily vote a southern Christians due to ongoing Fulani problem.

Supporting another Fulani/core-north will be a psychological setback to the east and this will reinforce the north resolved to keep power perpetually.

Correcto:
Honestly Ibos has nothing to lose aligning with the north, you know y? Yorubas hate Ibos more. The best chance for Ibos to get presidency is to first support the north.

The Yorubas hate Igbos more but Igbo are easily killed whenever there is a breakdown in law and order in the north!

Yoruba hate Igbo more, you all gorilla can beat your chest and go away with it, something you can't try in the north.

Yoruba hate you more, while a Yoruba president in the name of Obasanjo positioned and placed Igbos in the key position of his gov't when there more qualified Yoruba.

Keep deceiving yourself and downplaying who your real enemy is.

CSTR2:
Ipob is the reason why a tinubu has a greater chance of becoming president than any Igbo politician right now

From 1999-2014, tinubu cannot dare come out in national politics, when Igbo politicians were talking.

Chest beater united, who were these Igbo politicians between this time?

If you like, pitch your tent with Bokoharam, 2023 the presidency is coming down south.

gidgiddy:


Its funny how unarmed IPOB who killed nobody are the greatest threat to an Igbo becoming president but Boko haram, killer herdsmen and all the armed Northern bandits out there that murder thousands of Nigerians each year are no problem to a Northerner becoming president. Who is fooling who?

This character called Shettima is a mindless idiot. This was the same idiot who was issuing quit notice because he does not like Nnamdi Kanu, and he got away with it Scot-free. If it was Nnamdi Kanu that issued such quit notice against Northerners in the East, government will send all the python dance in the world after him


All the presidents the North have had, they still have 87% poverty rate, high illiteracy rate, high drug abuse rate and chronic terrorism

Yet everyday they will be shouting about the same presidency

I laugh in Igbo

But the same Igbo here are saying they prefer the core north to lead the country and that their real enemy is the Yoruba despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

The reality is Nigeria is overdue an Igbo president and there are more than competent Igbo candidates but the question is on what platform will these Igbo run?

mrvitalis:

They expect u guys to give them 40% in 2023

Who is us?
Face your 5 red mud republic and let real stakeholder in the institution called Nigeria discuss on a power-sharing arrangement.

Awol1:


Shebi na your Arewa brothers dey beg for the 5 percent vote now?

Or is it the Yorubas that you would expect to play second fiddle again?

Talk about the rejected stone becoming a cornerstone.

Emotional baby, who is shetima in the ground scheme of things?

Politicians will play their game and pick allies while poor chest beaters like you will continue to complain about Igbo marginalization for another 4 years starting from the year 2023.

Oshigun:


Joker. It is the emotional outlook of you lot that will always continue to render you useless to yourselves and others.

Hate Tinubu all you want. He is a man of destiny who has achieved a lot more than others can only dream of. If Tinubu wants to be President it is Nigerians who will elect or reject him and not tribalistic creatures of hate like you with allegiance to a nation that does not even exist.

None of these hateful Ipob can stop Tinubu from actualizing his dreams of leading his father's land.

Tinubu has the know-how to reposition Nigeria on the path of greatness and every well-meaning Nigeria will trope in enmass to vote for him at the pole.

AreaFada2:

Every man and his dog knows the guy wants to be president. But MKO's experience should caution everyone though. Kaduna Mafia are just as spiteful and poisonous as they were back then.

I doubt the current group of overambitious cabal will allow a calculating and over-ambitious Southerner become president so soon.

As far as they are concerned Yar'Dua's presidency has still not been completed. That is their thinking.
Unless they can get a more malleable Southerner to agree to a single term.

Who are these Kaduna mafia that you all like to overrate so much?

The only obstacle in front of Tinubu presidency is Buhari. An indifferent Buhari to Apc party politics will easily pave the way to Tinubu president.

Modikko:
Lol.... Blockhead, one musn’t be a scholar to speak excellent English.

It is a shame that you lack basic knowledge of engagement despite all the acclaimed institution you may have attended.

pasol4real:

Abia state is only bad for Igbo standards not aboki standards . Despite how bad abia is the state is far better than most of the states in the north.

Abia state may have serious infrastructure challenges but her citizens live much better than those of the co-north. The cor-north is actually the worst place to live in Nigeria.

0m0nnakoda:

Rather than tell yourselves the truth you live in denial with made up stories and categorisation of others as a means of deflecting attention

What the hell is SW
These days they call themselves Yoruba. Why are you so ashamed to tell us who you are ,preferring instead all these ersatz categories like "north",SW etc
The indigenous groups are Hausa,Kanuri,Jukun,Nupe Tiv,Berom Igala, Zuru,Yoruba,Edo,Ijaw,Igbo Urhobo,Ibibio Ogoni,Efik etc.

What are you? What is this self concealment under the compass points

What the hell is North?

Only the Fulani are ashamed to declare themselves




NOTHING LIKE NORTH OR SOUTH


WHO ARE YOU?


Just Last week Anthony Joshua told Queen Elizabeth 2 . I am Yoruba not I am SW

Don't mind that guy, he thinks religion is a uniting factor between himself and the Hausa-Fulani.

I can see through the shenanigans of the Hausa-Fulani to them religion is a means to an end for lots of them and they are the most mischievous group here in Nigeria.

The Hausa- Fulani people are the moat backwards group in Nigeria, they exhibit all what is bad about this country. Ills ranging from violence, poverty, intolerance, corruption, lack of know-how etc. They are the major reason this country is a joke.

mrvitalis:

Why are u guys so greedy to see that party is nothing just a mechanism to achieve a regions goal ...south west gets APC , south-east gets PDP

North migrate to PDM ...PDM would easily win

When south loses 2023 let it be known that greed of Yorubas cost it

You don't sound too bright my friend. The Yoruba gat nothing to gain from an Igbo presidency. To the Yorubas the Igbos and the Hausa-Fulani are the same, they are both treated as political advisory whose power must be fought with, so an Igbo president will not benefit them more than a northern president and precedence set during Jonathan as a point to Igbos being more arrogant and tribalistic when giving the position. of power.

mrvitalis:

If u think north won't contest in 2023 then u don't know north and I shouldn't reply u

I know the north. No serious political heavyweight will contest, the north-south rotation is needed to keep the country as one.

CharleyBright:


I am neither South East or South West and i dont care about your political wars.
What am saying is that The entire South has always been foolishly disunited and allow the North to use them against each other.
Nothing has changed with the way things are going

Because there was never a south, to begin with. The south was made up of two regions and you can see that these two old south regions always have a similar voting pattern and political pattern.

The only uniting factor in the north is religion. The Muslim north ( northeast and west) always vote based on religious solidarity reasons why Buhari always a difficulty winning states in the north-central and Christians in the northeast until 2015.

You see my friend, southerners are not foolish, they just don't have anything to gain collectively for putting a uniting figure due to ethnicity and possibly ideological differences.

The Irony is that you guys bash the north for voting in one way for a candidate irrespective of whether such a candidate is qualified or not but then turn around to blame the south for doing opposite.

mrvitalis:
North has no game ...the only reason north is playing this rubbish is because yorubas has chosen to respect zoning agreement ....it's simple

If the south is United there is nothing the north can do

Without the south agreeing on a candidate ( zoning ) there is absolutely no way south south ever rule Nigeria

You are bitter because no one will give the Igbos the presidency on a plate? Instead of you guys to do the work, rally round a candidate and do the groundwork to make him presentable and acceptable by the rest of the country.

The Igbo deserve to have a shot at the presidency and failure to have an Igbo may lead to Nigeria disintegrating but the Igbos political elites themselves are not even ready to play the game and get what they deserve, instead will have people without direction that will rather latch on any propaganda they can lay their hands on in other to antagonized the Yorubas.

No serious northern will contest for 2023 because they know the presidency is coming down south, it is left with the Igbos to fight it out with the Yorubas in APC

helinues:
Vp position is not even certain for El Rufai cos he just joined the list of those to hate by northern elites

Both Sanusi and El Rufia are light weight champions in Northern scheme

You get sense brother.
Sanusi has close to zero political bases in the north and Ipob are already rejoicing because they detest the Yoruba rather than fight the southwest for the presidency that is coming down south.

The only fair I have is that Nigeria can't afford to sideline the Igbo for another 8years without all hell not breaking lose. Nigeria needs an Igbo president to reassure them that they a part of the Nigeria project but at this time the minorities of the south have a better chance than an average Igbo politician.

[img][quote author=Jaubdu post=87451994]. You agree with me on one thing....Sanusi is just that distraction. In my own opinion, El Rufai needs Sanusi (interest). He has friends and contacts globally hence his dethronement period is the right time to act.

There is no distraction anywhere. If you haven't gotten the memo please do. The presidency is coming down south and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Coming back to Sanusi issue, he doesn't have any serious electoral value and the power brokers in the north can't trust him due to his arrogant disposition. So, el rufai get nothing to gain from Sanusi politically.

Finally, people with close to zero political know-how always like to attribute power that the northern establishment to them, always reading meaning to every political tussle in the north because of the deep inferiority complex of some.

Citytrend:
My brother forget it, I'm one person who believe these whole thing is a script targeted at 2023.

From promising to leave all your belongings o any new Emir, to sounding like he still have the option of reclaiming your throne

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It is not a script but you are free to read any meaning to it.

NgwalandAbia:
2023 political sagacity mumu South wake up no Northern presidency after much damage to our image as a country from con man pretending to be patriotic you can't be patriotic than igbos and yorubas and their minorities from my point of view it's even better that a yoruba man or ibibio man to occupy that seat come 2023 than another aboki con fulani man they have no love for this country and their allegiance goes to sahara desert

It confirms the presidency is coming down south, forget about all these propaganda being parroted by people with no political base or know-how.

TheFreeOne:


And what if the northern political establishment have chosen him as their 2023 consensus candidate?

There's a high powered 2023 political permutations ongoing in naija and don't be surprised his dethronement could be part of the underground schemes.

Remember no be today politicians don dey play the masses.

I am following to enjoy the ride cos it's gonna be surprisingly interesting as usual.

You give too much power and credit to this your imaginary northern political establishment. It is all in your head bro, the presidency is coming down south in 2023.

What will the people that dethrone him for speaking and wanting a change of the status quo that this so-called northern establishment benefits from gain from backing him his presidency?

On what platform will use to vie for this presidency and how ill he gets the party structure of the major part to support him?
How you just believe the presidency is giving by some imaginary northern cabals. Oga put on your thinking cap.

NGpatriot:







What I posted yesterday about the hypocrite and Northern elite posing as a crusader on the side of the poor when in fact it's the opposite.

I was just having the same conversation with one of my Nupe boss, we discuss all these issues at length and he was baffled how people fail to see through the lies and deceit of a member of the northern feudal class that has benefitted more from all the things he condemns.

A man needs to lead by example. Anyone how fails to lead his words is a hypocrite.

AmuDimpka:


LoL


I know Bodija, Challenge, Molete etc....if Igbo can dominate markets in Benin Republic how much more Ibadan


One Nigeria is awesome

In your small brain, Benin republic has a bigger economy than Oyo state?
If I may ask, which of the market are you dominating in Benin republic? Do you mean the one in upper Iweka ?

Sammy07:


You don't even know the meaning of dominate...

In Bodija, Challenge and Molete.
How many Igbos trader do you see compared to Yorubas?

All the shops owned by Igbos can you measure it with the one Yorubas have?
Argue constructively

They only dominate in their dream. You know most of these guys are suffering from a serious inferiority complex, always out to measure up and beat their Gorilla chest.

AmuDimpka:



Blablabla ....they are economic migrants the way Chinese economic migrant In almighty Lagos that is 70% slum ....

Don't worry enjoy one Nigeria....the migrants would make money off Lagos and use it to build houses in their place


I know to say e pain you....it's one Nigeria tgt Awolowo fought for....deal with it and cry forever

It is only people that haven't been to the east you can deceive, I have been there i have seen reasons why you all can't a sleep a night there before you board the next available night bus to Lagos, Ibadan, Abeokuta, Kano, Kaduna, Akure etc.

You see, some hardworking Igbos that hardly come here to gloat are successfully doing well but the majority of your that like to beat your chest, are in the express across the nation selling galla and cold water to your host.

If I have my way, I will allow your tiny 5 southeastern states to go so they can have a taste of the calamity that will befall on their mouldy republic.

AmuDimpka:


We aren't packing any load until you are tired of one Nigeria tat your frets and father's fought for....

The money made in Lagos and Ogun would be repatriated to East and be used to develop it....one Nigeria is amazing

By the way Chinese are in Nigeria doesn't mean that Nigeria is better than China ...it's simply economic colonization or expansion....that is exactly what Igbo is doing in Lagos and Ogun...

You are high on cheap drugs, the majority of Igbos in Lagos are an economic immigrant without the money and know-how to engage in economic colonization. Majority of them are small scale trader that hustle from hand to mouth on a daily bases.

I have been to the east and there is no evidence of any development that will gove others sleepness night. If you called all those Onitsha houses with proper plumbing and water system development then you don't know what development is.

I will rather live in any ancient southwestern city with mould house, good road, a huge consumer economy and very social people than to live in small Igbo semi-autonomous villages without road and electricity.

AmuDimpka:
Let not forget That Onitsha is a Home for Paint industries.More than 20 Indegenous Paint Manufacturing industries have opened their Factory.If I may put it This way: Onitsha is now The Home of Paint Industry In Nigeria!

It's name the ones in Ogun and I would tell you the owners....Yoruba shaaaaa

Chest beater united. Those are cottage industries my friend.

AmuDimpka:


You no get sense...did I say superpower..what is wrong with you guys and comprehension..I said GDP and disposable incomes of citizens and Luxembourg is higher


Russia is also a super power of Europe does it make their economy better than Monaco or Austria

Make we dey use our sense naaa

Rusia is a developing country according to the European standard. It is an economic backwater.

AmuDimpka:



30 storey building doesn't make a region developed....the tallest buildings bare in Kuala Lumpur yet Indonesia isn't yet a developed nation

Kuala Lumpur is in Malaysia, not Indonesia and the tallest building is not in Kuala Lumpur be informed.

[quote author=Front0lane post=87372545]This is tales by moonlighgt to fool your souls on not for me. The post of the CBN governor is a political post, if southerners can not lobby to earn the post that is their father's problem, not mine.

Since 1999, there have been three southern CBN governor and one northern governor. Obviously, southerner dominates the banking and finance industry.

You mean with all the backlog of qualification Soludo gathered he is not as eloquent as Sanusi n I never noticed that ?!

Soludo is very eloquent. Have you heard him speak?

Southerner claim to be more qualified than the northerners but when appointed to where they should distinguish themselves with their row call of qualifications there is little or nothing to distinguish the two.

In most cases, southerners are more qualified than northerners for the simple reason that they take education more serious which then leads to them dominating the organized private sector which then produces most of the technocrat we have.

Soludo achieves more as a CBN governor, he won more awards as a CBN governor because he was more qualify than Sanusi.

Since 1999 every power minister as been a southerner yet we have no light till date but you were here bragging about qualifications.

You actually know so little about the power Industry. The Nigeria government doesn't have the resources to generate enough power and the people are too poor to buy power at a competitive price at the open market, hence the power sector can't be completely privatised.

Fashola did extremely well in his capacity as the minister of power, he reforms it and allows the ministry to run efficiently well but he is not the distribution or transmission company he is limited in what he can do.

fulanimafia:
HH SLS is an excellent presidential candidate.

All sentiments aside.

Based on what?

Front0lane:
I completely agree to this so long you can accept Emefiele Soludo n Iweala as shown nothing to prove they are more intelligent or of beta capacity than him.

You see what you failed to admit is that Sanusi is more cerebral than the average hausafulanis elite n can compete toe to toe with the very best in the South. Now, that is one northerner you don't see every day. That is what your kudos should go out to.

A southerner with Sanusi's qualification will never become CBN governor at that time in 2009.
Check out his education achievement: Bachelor degree from ABU Zaria (economics) and master degree from the same institution. Compare this to Soludo's education qualification: Soludo is a core professional in the business of macroeconomics. Charles obtained his three degrees and then professorship at the University of Nigeria in Nsukka, Enugu State. Soludo graduated with a First Class Honors degree in 1984, an MSc Economics in 1987, and a PhD in 1989, winning prizes for the best student at all three levels.

Let us compare their professional carriers before CBN.
Prof Soludo has been visiting scholar at the International Monetary Fund, the University of Cambridge, the Brookings Institution, the University of Warwick and the University of Oxford and a visiting professor at Swarthmore College (USA). Chukwuma has also worked as a consultant for a number of international organisations, including The World Bank, the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa, and the United Nations Development Programme

Sanusi was in 1985, hired by Icon Limited and Barings Bank. He joined United Bank for Africa in 1997, working in the credit and risk management division but later rose to the position of general manager.
In 2005, he became the executive director in charge of risk and management control at First Bank of Nigeria. In 2009, Sanusi became the first northern Nigerian to head the bank after he was appointed CEO

Let us check their publications:

Soludo
North-South Macroeconomic Interactions: Comparative Analysis using the MULTI MODE and INTERMOD global models for the Brookings discussion papers in international economics, Brookings Institution – 1992
Implications of alternative macroeconomic policy responses to external shocks in Africa in the Development research papers series for the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa (UNECA), Socio-Economic Research and Planning Division – 1993
Growth performance in Africa: Further evidence on the external shocks versus domestic policy debate in the Development research papers series, for the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa (UNECA), Socio-Economic Research and Planning Division – 1993
The Consequences of US Fiscal Actions in a Global Model with Alternative Assumptions about the Exchange Regime in Developing Countries – 1994

Finally, Soludo was never in the same bracket with Sanusi. Though Sanusi is eloquent, anyone with a basic education can also be eloquent. What makes a man to stand out is his reforms and contribution to knowledge.

Nowenuse:


You are very very correct with this assertion.

The core north or Muslim north has a big problem with middle-class population and this is largely due to illiteracy and nothing else.

I also saw this disappointment in Minna when I went there.... Any place that is northern Muslim dominated is always like that. They are very backward and retrogressive people.

That is why I always differentiate between the Muslim and the Christian North. The Christian northerners are very progressive people you will even differentiate them from average southerners even here in the north.

The core north actually enjoyed the military patronage than any group in Nigeria but due to lack of capacity, they actually squandered most of the wealth. Reasons why some of their towns still have most of the infrastructure built during the military era.

Do you know that Suleja town actually has a running pipe born water as early as the year 2000? GRA like Suleiman Barrau way has federal gov't built estate that occupies a 1/4 of the actual city before the explosion in population. I reside in this area between 1993 to the year 2001, between this time electricity was constant, pipe-borne water was 24hours and the area was serene but if you go back to this area it is now a shadow of itself.

If the military government was actually fair to southerners and as they invested in the north, there wouldn't be any room for comparison between the south and the north, the later would be so far far ahead of he later in any form of development.