₦airaland Forum

fk001:
So you are saying that Ghadafi was foolish?

Sha, let's not go into that.

The USA has strong ties with Saudi, in fact, Saudi is one of the countries that are detecting for the USA because of their mutual understanding (go and find out)

Saudi took Buhari as one of their sons because they think he is strong Sunni right from the 80s, so what I am saying is there is no way Saudi will allow the USA to touch Buhari even if he committed war crime they will try and cover for him.

Saudi doesn't dictate for America. The house of Saud is America sidekick, they support whatever that America supports and go against whatever they go against, Saudi Arabia is America bitch watching over America interested in the Arab world.

The Wahabist ruling family of Saudi Arabia is scared of their tyranny and all the bad thing they have done to the Shia minority of Saudi Arabia ( the people that owns majority of the oil field) to catch up with them, that is why they are paying America Billions of dollars for security, that is why they swallow their pride and go into bed with Israel because America told them to do so. Saudi will do whatever America says because the life and position of the ruling family are on the line. So my friend don't fool yourself, Buhari is an inconsequential nobody in the scheme of things

EmekaMD:
i hate that I'm arguing with an Ignoramus first of..

Secondly.. i won't try any further if your blockhead refuses to learn ..

For the last time.

He was the premier of the north. His responsibility was inclusive of every single Nigerian citizen resident in the North. He was the Premier of Northern Nigeria, not just Northerners in the northern Nigeria.

North is a region of Nigeria, and Nigerians have equal rights to live and work anywhere in the country they so wished. That's how it should be ideally..

But blockheads and bigots like you who probably never owned a passport talk more of knowing how regional government work in saner climes are here making pointless arguments..

Go and sit down

He was only responsible to the people who are citizens of the then Northern Nigeria. In your own region, you have a premier who is responsible for your affairs, while going up to drag what is not yours?

North then was a region of Nigeria that has a semi autonomous status, which means it was a country within a country, it can organized her economy, reform her civil service as she want, give employment to whomever she want without the central government consent. The north has all the right to filled up her civil service position with only northerners just like the west and the east have that right.

The need to measured up to others is the reason why you are the most hated ethnic group on the face of earth, inferiority complex is a very big disease. what is the relationship between owning a passport and knowing how regional system work in saner climes?

If I may ask, how many of the said saner climes practice the same system of regionalism based purely on ethnicity practiced in Nigeria in the 60s

EmekaMD:
do you know what regional system of government means ?
And do you know what a federation mean?
Now let me school you in this game.

In a confederation, each regional government control its produce and resources, but does it equals treating the residents differently ? No.

In a country. No matter the system of government, all citizens have equal rights in all aspects of the country they choose to reside in (US practice federal system, UAE practice similar ) check how this countries operate.

But here in Nigeria its ok to employ a foreign over a fellow citizen cos you're low IQed and lazy to complete productively. Yet when they say divide the country so that no law mandates equal rights between you and igbos you shout Hate speech..

Spits

spit on your ignorant ass, contest is all that matters, This issue happens in the 1950s, a time in history where black Americans are not allowed to vote, a time where ethnic minorities in western Europe were still discriminated against. The premier said what he taught and how he believes the interest of his people, who are northern Nigerians can best be protected, he doesn't have the responsibility to protect your interest just because you share the same geographical entity with him in the same Nigeria, that is what the regions were created for in the first place.

North for northerners, West for Yorubas and East for easterners. Not, north and West for everyone while East for easterners, that is the contest you fail to grasp.

EmekaMD:
you re right. Saduana was making a love speech there.

We live in a country where everyone was supposedly "equal citizens" and yet one man out of hate for another people claimed that he'd rather hire foreigners than his fellow countrymen.

This is love speech.

Back then, Nigeria practices a regional system of government where every region run they're internal affairs. After dominating your own region you want to extend your greed to the Northern region, the premier is right to be wary of you people.

I don't know why the Igbos find it difficult to hear the truth, every region and ethnicity practice some form of favoritism towards a member of their region or ethnicity, rather than rally round to develop their space, they like to move to other regions to look for what doesn't belong to them.

LabDNA:
Lol..It is not antagonism, it is equity. You get as much as you give.

The East have supported the SW before. Every region has competent leaders that can rule this country and it is only right and just that the East takes their turn.

It will help quench the pent-up anger has built up in the East over the years and threatening to destabilize the country.

When have they ever supported any Yoruba candidates?

The east can't blackmail Yoruba to support them when in reality they are mischievous and hateful.

The future of the Yorubas depends on them and not on se inconsequential hateful igbos of nairaland that like to talk and abuse other unnecessarily.

nku5:
The British made sure that Awo & Zik did not work together. Classic divide and rule.

No it wasn't the British, it was the politics of hate and envy being practice newly created artificial African States.

Zik wanted everything that the Yorubas has been blessed with, be it deep coastal shore, huge civilization, Lagos, arable Interland etc.

ZZ22:
Before the civil war how powerful was the Fulani? The fact is Nigerian people handed over to Fulani after they connived with Fulani against Igbos and in turn what did Nigerians get as reward after their connivance with Fulani? a messed up country and a demonic constitution that has put Nigerians in chains and checks of the Caliphate.

The power of Fulani is a filament of your own imagination, Fulanis are not powerful and have not really been favour in the contest most you always look at it from.

Which of the indexes of development can you truly say, the Fulani has benefited from the country called Nigeria than any other group?

Do they receive more money from the federal government than others?

Are they more populous in civil service and the military than others?

Do they enjoy the state partnership than others?

The reality is that the structure of Nigeria being a centralized system of government will always promote laziness from some quotas because will always be handed down every month irrespective of what the state does.

The Yorubas and Hausas were in a much better position than the Igbos when the colonialist came if one group should thankful for colonialist intervention that group should the Igbos.

AirFireEarthH20:
We Yorubas have disowned him because he's Ijaw. A true Omoluabi would not want to protest against PMB no matter what because we are the number 2 man in this administration. Osinbajo is our own, let only Igbos protest because they are the only people suffering ever since the looters are no longer in power. Any SW person that want to behave like Igbos, PMB should give them the Sowore treatment

This is bullshit any Yoruba can protest any government irrespective of who is in power. We omoluabis don't follow the crowd mentality, we have our individual mindset.

Sowere is a Yoruba man

plaindealer:
Applies to you even if you are Yoruba, it doesn't matter what corner of Nigeria you call home, we are all facing all forms of challenges including poverty, lack of development and poor leadership.

You have a serious problem if you can't see the underlying problem with the almajiri system plaguing the North. The issue here is the system of child begging which almajiri system is the biggest culprit. When it is time to discuss other social problem affecting other part of Nigeria we will join mouth to talk about it.

plaindealer:
The only time you people see the truth is when it comes to other people, you don't see it right there under your own nose.

Have you taken care of poverty in your own backyard where you have beggars and people so poor that they have to sit next to slim, filthy, odious and rancid environments just to buy and sell food that they put in their mouth?

Is it not poverty and lack of opportunities the reason why SE people migrate to the same North for survival or to peddle gala and pure water in other places under the sun all day?

Is it not poverty the reason why your governor lined you up on the side of the road like refugees for 1 gallon of kerosene?
Poverty is all around you so deal with that first and let Northernewers deal with their own issue.

Must SE people care and worry so much about Northerners and the bereaved?

You will kill yourselves over Kogi, over Osun, over places outside your borders, but your own states are in dire situations, your own governors are even more useless, but you don't see the truth in your states, you just manage to see the truth in other places all because of tribalism, bigotry and even lack of care for the suffering people right there under your own nose.

You people really need to get over your self absorbed, pompous and arrogant selves.

I am not Igbo, I'm Yoruba if you fail to comprehend my message that is your cup of tea

Dechymmytv:
I beg to differ, don't let politics dictate your conscience.. By the embolded, you definitely not conversant with world statistics..it is quite glaring that you don't need a statistics to see it. What is bad is bad, no matter who gets hurt... Politics or no politics, northern elites need to do something for their people. THE DEPRIVATION OF THIS PEOPLE TO COMMON EDUCATION IS THE BANE OF CONTINUOUS CURRUPTION. (don't know if i said that right). No be who, na why.

Northern elites are doing something but when the foundation is faulty whatever you build on it will be useless. The elephant in the room is the conservative nature of most poor northerners, the colonialist help to cement the feudal system in the north due to the benefit of indirect rule, this allows for scholars and people with limited knowledge to have a say on how societies are been run, you have people that believe in the Ulamas than common sense or science then you will have serious problem.

Since the coming the democracy, many northern states have been trying to invest money into education, give incentives to the parent to send their children to school in most Northern States but such effort haven't yielded too much result because scarce resources.

Averagely, northern states give more scholarship to University undergraduates and graduates alike than any southern states but when you have serious society disdain for education there is nothing you can do to change such perception, especially when religion is involved

donprinyo:
Continue in your ignorance. The government have refused to hold all dis parents bringing diz kids to book. So whatever comes out as a result of diz neglects, na una go carry am just like bokoharam de deal with una now. Enjoy ur almajiris.

You can't blame the north alone on the issue of overpopulation or absentee parent, it is a nationwide problem, our culture and religion allow men to be irresponsible but the cultural practice in the far North is the worst.

We can't entirely blame it on Islam because the last time I check sub -Saharan Africa has the largest fertility rate in the world. Countries in the middle east have a fertility rate of 3 children per woman on an average while countries like Nigeria, Angola, Cotedvoire have 5 children per woman on an average.

If northerners were only responsible for all the population growth since independence northerner population would have swallowed that the rest of the country, we are all responsible for the situation found ourself today

plaindealer:
There are little kids and even adults roaming and begging on your SE streets, worry about your own poor and begging kids instead of committing suicide over the North, you are not any better.

What are your own SE leaders doing to eradicate the same ills in your own village.?


Hypocrites.

Truth must be told, you can't compare the level of poverty and lack of care for children in the far north to any part of Nigeria.

Almijiri system is a time bomb waiting to explode, what is fueling this ever-increasing population is culture, illiteracy and religiosity.
The North has a serious social problem that she needs to address before she can actualize her potential. Every liberal northerner knows this and is campaigning for abolishing of such practices.

JonDon12:
There is a middle belt in Nigeria whether you like am or not. Zombie. I live for there. Ilorin really is Yoruba land wey Afonja carry go give him slave master, the Fulani. Na Yoruba man land with Hausa slave owners. End of Story. U go school but u no learn.

Which slave master?

Ilorin is a conglomerate of Yoruba, Nupe, Barba and Fulani, all of which has been Yorubanized, the master-slave relationship is only in your head.

Sammy07:
Lol, okay I hear...
BTW, nothing concerns me with Ilorin
As long as it doesn't affects Ondo... We're okay...

Geography, there is nothing like Middle belt and South South

I am half Ondo and half Kwara, it consigns me, Kwara is geographically south-west but politically north-central, but states like Niger, nasarawa, plateau, FCT are both politically and geographically in the northern part of Nigeria.

In geography, there is no such thing as north-central or south-south but in Nigeria political landscape that is the reality of the day.

Anago0147:
. So today, the number of yorubas living in the north outnumbered that of the igbos?

Is that it

I didn't see this one coming

The kind of lie you guys peddle hear is mind boggling even grownups like FriendNG and quotasystem who should know better chose to join the kids in the forum in peddling this lies

Nawaooo

To begin with, who are you calling kid?
Most of you come online to talk any how and expect people to just take everything without challenging the authenticity of such information.
No one can tell, which of the southern group will be more in the North because census figure don't show the ethnic breakdown of tribes residing in any states but from common knowledge of geography, religious similarity and inter connectivity of railway between the heartland of Yoruba and Hausa land, you will expect more Yoruba to migrate to the North than Igbo, I am not sating there definitely more Yoruba than Igbo in the North but i am saying evidence suggest there could be more.

Igbo are trader, hence there visibility in market and other commercial areas always give a wrong perception of their numbers that doesn't mean that they are more populous than others

UdechiHD:
The only northerner in this thread is FriendNG
All others are Yoruba's masquerading as northerners. We know their trademark.

I'm a Yoruba and I will continue to burst your lies. You people shameless lie just about everything.
The reality, is Igbo are a very tiny minorities in every institution of higher learning in the North, I know this because I reside and I'm familiar to the region. You can beat your chest on other things but not on this one.

UdechiHD:
Yoruba's have latched on the thread to display their innate self. The guy may have used a wrong statistics to prove his point.
But the truth remains that Igbo students in northern universities out number their Yoruba counterparts. Apart from the middelbelters who are much in their numbers also, you'll find a lot of Igbo too there.
Anyone that wants to disprove this should bring their statistics and prove otherwise.

The question is which Northern University are you talking about?
It a well known fact that Yoruba can easily assimilate and live with Hausa-Fulani for centuries, we have had contacts with Hausa-Fulani for centuries even before the Nigeria state was created. I am Yoruba man that have dual state of origin, one from a state in the southwest and another from Niger state, in all the major institutions in the North, there are more Yoruba than Igbo.

Being loud and noticeable in the market place doesn't equate to having more people. Go to ABU zaria, go to BUK, go to FUT yola, go to FUT Minna you will see large numbers of Yoruba as both student and lecturers owing to the accommodating nature of Northerners.

LegendHero:
I swear this guy don kolo. I’ve been laughing since.

40-50% are Igbos? How much is left to the indigenous northern states and the catchment centers?

No mind those chest beaters. I graduated from a federal university of technology in Minna Niger state and I can categorically tell you that only Nupe people alone outnumbered all the Igbos in the school.

University admission in Nigeria is based on the following
1. merit list
2. Catchment areas
3. Education disadvantage States

Universities in the north will always have more northerners because they will enjoy point 2 and 3.

There are far more Yorubas and middle belt group than Igbos in northern universities

JonDon12:
Oh I assume you have never been to a Federal University in the North. I Matriculated in one. That's what happens. Not trying to be divisive but the more shit Nigerians throw at the Ibo, the more we excel.

There are much more Yorubas in federal institutions in the North than Igbos, I don't know why you people must brag about just everything

Ttipsy:
........but all this road construction in the north who uses them??

forgetting roads in the south especially SE that receives more vehicular traffic..


inside life..

Niger state is more populous than any state in the south-east

mormoney85:
road wey motor no dey na im them dey repair the once wey motor dey stay for four ours no movement they no dey see am yeye government

Who told you that? Tribalism will not kill you, people. Suleja is the economic capital of Niger state with over one million inhabitants owing to her closeness to FCT while Minna is the official capital of Niger state, this road is the only link between these two cities, it also goes down to Bida, Mokwa, Ilorin and the southwest. In short, the road is the busiest in that axis.

MeiAso:
This Buhari is just building only Northern roads. Is the north only region in this country pls.

The rehabilitation work is being carried out by the state government. The dualization work of Suleja -Minna road was started by Jonathan, but it was stopped at Lambata, the other section from Lambata is being done by the state government, I wish the federal government will continue that stretch of road because it is the only road that links abuja to minna all the way down to Ilorin and the south west

Multiplier7:
Forget that thing. We know how politics works in Nigeria. That project is being funded secretly from the Federal government purse. If you don't know, know it now.

Let just say because it is the benefit of a Northerner being the President sorry President of the country

I use that road every Thursday, the road is in a very bad state. The pressure of trucks plying through the road due to the problem with Birni Gwari road is what is responsible.

You are wrong, the repair work is being done by the state government

Uchek:
The east will be poorer than Cameroon? Are you for real?
Please how old are you and level of education?

You are clouded with emotions. Cameroon has about 30% of Nigeria land, only 20m people and a huge coast line. Cameroon have so much resources than biafra yet it is a struggling nation what makes you think Biafa wouldn't struggle?

Nowenuse:
If you are not afraid of a debate, don't make comments inside quotes.
I cannot read those mixed up jargons.

Whenever you are being cornered, you use this strategy

That guy is being wise by half. Nigeria and its state are an artificial creation, referendum will only involve the ethnic groups that make this entity not some artificial state created by northern junta military officers.

The core northerners are always scare to get their believed middle belt away from, if I am from the core I will also be scare because majority their region is barren but what I fail to understand is why they hate the people of north central and middle belt when they know that the region hold the key to their future.

I know religion is the main reason why the Christian indigenous north central people are drifting away from the core North and the fact that most leaders from the North have not being really fair to them.

Nyamuri:
It's funny How ur talking about constitution now, ur using your own hand to hurt yourself, where in the constitution did it talk about a right to referendum, obviously non.. so that means you can't get a referendum , since you using the same constitution in ur argument

Align with the south for what? can you elaborate more bcuz ur a bit vague.. is it politically? If that's the case, then it's nothing new bcuz for a long time, benue and platue have been on the same page with the south, i have no problem or argument on that.. May issue is when you try to generalize the whole MB, that I takI an exception!! Since the inception of Nigeria, kogi, kwarra, nasarawa and Niger, have always aligned with the north politically

You keep talking about how these tribes are this and that, I don't know the percentage of minority tribes in MD that are Christians, whether if it's 60% or not, that's not the bone of contention!!

All I'm saying Muslims are the majority in MB.. in kogi, kwarra, nasarawa and Niger.. so it will be very hard to align with the south at the expense of those states I mentioned

Let me make it simple for you, in a layman's level... if their is a referendum in MB today to join the south, there is no way ur people can win bcuz majority religion is Islam and we know how votes are casted base on religion

Can u disprove that,

Kwara is a Yoruba majority and in the case of breakup, no inch of Yoruba land will be left behind.

You can claim all land North of River Niger, I don't give a Bleep, but from Jeba lokojo downward is no go area.

alhassanyusuf29:
I beg to differ on this aspect, how did el- rufai show any hatred and detest for south kaduna, is it bcuz he picked a deputy Muslim?? I think your views on this topic is subjective deprived from a emotional segment

El-Rufai is bold and goes straight to the core, his not a hypocrite that tries to play to the gallery.. I think what you hate is his boldness in d oing stuffs

I have been following him and I don't see anywhere it implied he hates SK, I think the main bone of contention is him picking a deputy as muslim

Elr-Rufai is an hypocrite, he is playing to the gallery of conservative northern Kaduna people by marginalising the people of southern Kaduna. Most of his anti southern Kaduna in the state are not needed, he is just subtly preparing for the presidency and he knows religious sentiments is one sure way to win the heart of core northern people.

Elr-Rufai himself is smart and liberal but being too ambitious will use any trick in the book to get the top job.

Kyase:
Dank did well but he hyped most of his achievements.
Jang did well too but was not that spectacular in any aspect.
The most underrated governor was shettima of Borno

Yaradua of katsina was the best governor, he work tirelessly to open up katsina during his time.

Kure of Niger state was the worst governor, he fail to lay any good foundation and brought religious sentiments to the state

aribisala0:
It is not only him that is lazy.How is he different from those areas where they have oil? Are they not lazy too? THey are just lucky they have oil they are equally lazy.

Yes regions should keep their resources but resourcess did not arrive there through hardwork.

Now there is a fundamental difference betweed Saudis,Kuwaitis on the one hand and Japanese/Germans on the other. The one are consumers while the other are producers.
There is no area in Nigeria that is more productive than the North apart from Lagos if you remove oil. That is the food basket of the country.
If we are to revert to true oil revenue resource control which I think we should that cannot happen overnight unless we split the country but let us not pretend that somehow Ijaws or Ikwerre as a people are more productive than Hausa because they have oill. They are among the laziest and least enterprising people on earth.

It is governments State and local that need oil not people and in the North the level of agricultural productivity is phenomenal. No one can tell me that Abokis are lazy. They work like machines

They are all overLagos riding okada and there is no state you do not find them,working which ia a lot more than you can say for Ikwerre or Ijaws

As long as the constitution concentrates power in the FG there will be need for allocation. Depite all the noise about corporate headquarters the truth is that corporate tax is paid to the FG ,VAT is paid to the FG the FG controls NPA and so on . Many of those revenue raising powers have to devolve before states can be viable. So those inbuilt constraints have weakened the states and they cannot overcome them overnightStates cannot generate power or build sea ports and many other things without the FG saying so.

Northern Nigeria has a structural problem that started the moment Usman Dan fodio uses Islam as a pretence to start an empire. The Islamic caliphate of Northern Nigeria of the 18th century only reinforced the power of autocratic few who control the majority of the often enterprise and hardworking Hausa farmers and traders

Event leading to the colonization of northern Nigeria also reinforced the power of the emir through indirect rule by banning missionaries schools , western ideas that may affect the power of the local emirs.
The colonial government and the Usman Dan fodia jihad made the north to be what it is today.

North will only change when economic reality forced them to become more secular and tolerant but our centralized sharing structure will not allow them to change and embrace modernity