₦airaland Forum

celeiyke:
This clearly shows u have never been to the north

I live in the North

ikpuchinonye1994:
you haven't been to the east nigga, if you have, you won't be asking me this question of how many igbos are in the East..I still maintain that core northerners are intolerant to others..

I have been to Umudioka, Ihalla, Onitsha and Awka in Anambra state. I have also been to different part of Enugu, Imo and Abia state.

ikpuchinonye1994:
Remind us how many times igbos have mascared non-igbos in the East.. Core northerners have been the ones killing southerners even middle-belterners in the North.. Delete that thrash you wrote up there and stop lying..core northerners remain the most intolerant people in Nigeria.. No matter how long you have stayed with them, once their madness starts and you are not one of them, they won't waste time killing you..

The only reason you see riot and killing of Christians in some northern city like Kaduna and Kano is because of the religious intolerance and large population of miscreant (people without education and parental care, aka Almajiri) these cities have too much people that has nothing to loose. They are the people that can easily be mislead by Ulamas and politicians to cause civil unrest.

Though the east are as intolerance but their level of education and good parental care don't create too much miscreant that can easily be mobilized to fight non-indigence in their midst and less face it, the east is not an attractive destination to other Nigerians, how many non Igbo live in the east?

ProudDick:
There’s no showdown with the south. All the northerners want is one Nigeria where they can share from the oil proceeds. Without this they will be poor like Niger and chad. Everyone knows the era of conquest is long gone. No one can take other people’s land in this age. And any war with the south will be the end of Nigeria. They are scared of war. Look at the war they fear Amotekun. They know what opc is capable of. I watched the channels this morning. You can feel the fear of migetti alla man.

You are right bro!

The Fulani elites are not really happy about the activities of criminal bandits and herdsmen but their is nothing they can do about it. Hausa-Fulani are not looking at taking any land but they want the unity of Nigeria to continue to have access to the crude oil and port of the south, nothing is wrong with that, what I'm worried about is the way poverty and illiteracy has ravage the region and how they are doing so little to change.

They can't afford to fight any war with any group in Nigeria without risky breaking up Nigeria reasons why some why secessionist are heating up the politicking with this Amotekun.

sean079:
I am talking from experience cos my wife is mixed with the dad fulani from Guinea n mum Nigeria. Even my fulani friend from Gambia told me its the culture among fulani everywhere that even his own dad never support stranger getting married to outsider but prefer male marrying outsider than female

I have a Yoruba friend married to a Fulani. Fulani will give their daughter in marriage to you if you are a practicing Muslim, understand the Hausa-Fulani culture and if your social status is comparable to theirs. Apart from religion another factor is your social standing in the society, a rich Yoruba Muslim in the North will easily married the daughter of a rich Fulani or Hausa-Fulani

somehow:
I know you guys are trying to divide the north

their unity is a cause for concern but you can't do it this way.

The best way is through RELIGION!

yes religion

I'm not talking about making them christians, you may die while trying, but I'm talking about making them other types of muslim

The biggest division in the north now is Sunni and Shia

just make more northerners shia, then watch them fight eachother all day.

This is a man that knows whats up.
Northerners values religion more than anything, a core Northerner will favor and give her daughter in marriage to a Yoruba, Auchi, Egbira Muslim than Shia or christian minority in their means.

Reasons why the people are solidly behind the government, prosecution of the Shia is cut them to size and prevent them from having the number requires to be a serious threat to the unity enjoyed bu core- northerners.

Without a restructures Nigeria, a weaken Fulani hegemony in the north will create more problem for Nigeria at large than any political gain the south will gain. The core northerners are still a better ally to the Yoruba than Igbo, a core northerner will treat you as their own if you pray with them, treat them well but the igbo will never see you as their brother no matter how long you live with them.

celeiyke:
OP, the fulani outnumber the hausa in the north.

Not true,the Hausa are the majority.

AmaHopeOn:
Spot on. Why do you think, Buhari, and the short govenor has taken the issue of their leader personal.

Are they the only Muslims that block roads and pray?


His movement is liberating not just Hausa's, but taking people off their controlled order, and if they should allow him, in no time, his movement will break their ranks and power will go back to the people. The Hausa's


Both Shia and Sunni Muslims are radicals. So, the problem is Not that he is Shia, but because they can't control his own order, then his followers.


Religion to the Fulani is not to practice, but a mere tool to subjugate, and subdue. Infact, the average Fulani man is not religious. They are fetish, and cultured. They have a mission to conquer, the means does not matter, as long as they have their conquest. Islam, as a tool, has been the best and working tool they use.

The Shia movement is more complicated than analysis above. To begin with, there movement is purely a religious movement and majority of the members are also Hausa-Fulani. The major reason why the Sunni government of Buhari is prosecuting them is the whabbist government of Saudi Arabia not because they are liberating any Hausa in the North.

Without the Shia to fight, the intolerance north will look for other enemy in Tijaniya, Guraniya, Amahdiya etc.

holicupp:
an average Fulani man is intelligent and sharp while the reverse is the case for their counterpart which is hausa

That is not really true. An uneducated Fulani will be as stupid as uneducated Hausa while some of the brightest brains in the North are Hausas. There isn't much difference between Hausa and Fulani in the northwest. The two groups are indistinguishable thanks to 200+ year of intermarriages.

FrLukas:
Isn't my point obvious?

When someone you see as a friend only sees you as a means to an end what do you do?

You are being colonized by the Fulanis, that much is clear.

Fulanis are more indigenous to Niger and Chad yet because of religion you sold your birthright to them.

You've subjugated your beautiful culture for their sake.

You now accompany them to raid villages to kill and maim. At least that was what happened in some parts of Mikang LGA in Plateau state when I was there.

The irony is that Hausa is the largest ethnic group in Niger yet they haven't produced a president since she gains her independent from France. Fulani is a minority ethnic group in both Chad and Niger they have close to zero political clouts in these countries.

Fulani uses to dominate Cameron before the southern group decided to render them useless. Fulanis are hated minorities in Mali, Senegal, Burkina Faso Ghana, Cotedvoire and other west Africa countries. They don't have any political powers in all the aforementioned countries.

The only country with Fulani majority is Ginnea, they used to dominate Guinea until all the ethnic groups there ganged up to result power away from them. Fulanis are only relevant in Nigeria thanks to the disunity of the south and middle belt and also due to the British factor.

From a linguistic point of view, Fulanis speak a Niger-congo language which is similar to both Yoruba, Igbo and other southern groups than the Hausa language which is Afro-Asiatic language

Blackking98:
Yes, they are a conquered people who have developed Stockholm syndrome with their conquerors. It's quite sad. No single Emir in the north is Hausa, all are fulanis .

It is more complex than that bro. In the north-west, Hausas are Fulanis and Fulanis are Hausas reasons you hear Hausa-Fulani on tv and the print media. 200 plus years of intermarriage and common Hausa language has created an hybrid group who inseparable brothers in tongue and religion

MayorofLagos:
Lovely. . Yeess, fulani is the one telling people what God they must worship and if they refuse he slaughters them. Fulani tell farmer his cow must feed on his crop and if he refused he slaughters him. Fulani is one telling people he wants to settle their land and if they refuse he slaughters them. It is a disaster!

O to Gee for Fulani! Time to take power from fulani hand before he slaughters any more people.

They can only project power if allowed to. What each constituents region of Nigeria needs to worried about is how to restructure this country. After restructuring, the liberal Hausa-Fulani of the north will have to decide whether to continue to live in the 6th century or to reform and catch up with the rest of Nigeria. What we should be particular about is how to stop the rest of Nigeria subsidizing for religious intolerant core north.

MayorofLagos:
I love this!!
True word! God bless you.

There are plenty of them even in Nairaland. Fulani has destroyed their spirit and identity about their own history. Anything indigenously Hausa, fulani has destroyed it claiming it is anti-Islam. They programmed them to believe a muslim must not play music or dance. So today Hausa has forgotten their drum beats and their dance steps. If you ask them to play music they will give you an Indian melody and dance to it in mimick of what they learnt in Indian movies. Can you imagine... This is the result of fulani indoctrination forcing them to abandon music. This is because fulani itself does not have music or dance in their cultural history.

Hausa is a great culture, those who believe like I do that Fulani is a disaster in Nigeria should join voice and make noise on this topic.

Fulani practices terrorism, not Islam. They will not terrorize another people in this country.

Hausas are irredeemable, they love their Fulani brother and you wouldn't really blame them for that. Over 200 years of intermarriages and Fulani controls have changed their viewpoint totally.

See, majority of the northern elites are Fulani or Hausa Fulani not be design but an accident of Usman dan fodio jihad, the Fulanis are emir as Aristotle of society, they get to send their children to best of schools and gets to dominate politics in the north, the only known Fulani or Hausa leaders are those minorities from the middle belt who entered in the military earlier.

The richest businessmen from the north are Fulani or Hausa-Fulani, the biggest Islamic scholars in the North are Fulani or Hausa-Fulani, there is no way the Hausa man will rise against their Fulani brothers in the Northwest because of both of them share the religion of Islam and language of Hausa together.

For Fulani in the northeast, that is another story completely. They have the powerful kauris to cinotnt with and the millions of indigenouss enlighten Christians.

What we Yoruba need is too absorbed minority groups like the egbira and Igala and Nupe (in Kwara) into our sphere of influence and start planning for an independent Yoruba homeland

fulanimafia:
Let's not get into who are the cowards in the south.

The OP's argument carries merit, there is no doubt about that.

The SW region will still be secured through the proposed force, only difference is it would be through a state, rather than a regional structure.

But what is the problem with having a regional force?
And get to decide what type of force will be good for southwest, southwesters themselves or northerners?

Yusman316:
I know any body's view u people disagree with is either Fulani or Buharist. [s]If u know anything about history then u will know fulanis were grazing most of these lands before others settled there[/s]. But that is not even the issue. The issue is some people make it look like Christianity is an endangered religion in Nigeria. Go and ask Babajide Otitoju that has been to most conflict zones in this country, and he will be the first to tell u it's not about targeting a particular religion. If u have an issue with a Fulani, he doesn't care if u speak the same language with him, he will butcher u. Go and do fact finding, majority of the banditry and kidnapping victims in the north, are Muslims

There was never a grazing reserve or route in southern Nigeria, what they have in the north was a route created by northern regional colonial government in some part of the north ( most north central were not include due to tse tse fly). Stop misleading people. the issue is not about religion about activities of terrorist Fulani herders

richPHAROAH:
na them dey Bleep craze commot for your sister toto. yes na them

I'm too old for such childish banters. whomever my sister or daughter decide have a relationship with is her problem but be rest assured it wouldn't be a nonentity like you

NaMeAboki:
You create an armed regional militia to target a particular tribe, making no secret about it; meanwhile you heat up the polity and encourage your ppl to overload the cyberspace with derogatory supremacist remarks and insults against the other tribe - and still expect peace?

Anybody devoid of sentiments and with foresight will see how this thing, if not handled carefully, could easily get out of hand and degenerate into a tribal/regional war - especially in the light of some many reckless inciting statements from persons of note, who should know better.

But the action of Fulani herdsmen can't lead to tribal/ethnic war?
My problem with people like you is you are a big hypocrite that will always look at issues from a bias point. Activities of killer herdsmen is the reason why we Nigerians are angry with the north not some measures created by other regional body to solve the problem.

Let us look at an hypothetical situation where some Yoruba hunters invaded all the major highways, farms and villages in the north, kidnapping, rapping and killing Hausa-Fulani and the federal government headed by a Yoruba is indifferent or subtlety in support of their actions with a military set up dominated by Yoruba and Igbo. What will be the action of the core north by now?

You and I know that they will be attacking Yoruba and any minority in Kano and other major city in the north now! northern Nigeria will be burning as we speak if such a scenario were to play out, so who are you deceiving.

Some of us are old enough to know the north behave when they have power and when they are out of power. No region have monopoly of violence and Nigeria is an artificial state whose unity is very negotiable, it is time to start talking about the unity and essence of our unity

richPHAROAH:
abobi i am 100th class citizen and i no mind, but i go buy your whole family, ur papa , mama. sisters and unborn children and still have change

online millionaire! Na dem.

Yusman316:
Chief go do ur research. The Benue vigilante group formed by the then governor escalated the Fulani herdsmen killing rampage when they secretly started rustling cattle from Fulani

To begin with, Fulani has no business open grazing in Benue, to begin with.

The government are openly supporting Fulani terrorist that is a fact and you people can:t run away from it because Nigeria is not an Island.

Conner44:
Keep quiet who are you to tell me what I am?

IPob have no business in the SW except hawking gala and lacaserra remember?

Nnamdi Kanu says he supports Amotekun, if I was ipob wouldn’t I follow his steps?

DEATH TO AMOTEKUN

We are hungry for cheetah/leopard cat meat

You are a Igho teenager, with very low IQ, I have been following and reading through your nursery rhymes here.

We the Yoruba will go-ahead with our regional security outfit and there is nothing you can do

MayorofLagos:
I guess Igbo miss us these past few days that we have ignored their issue and faced Fulani. They feel jealous. Now hiding under Fulani identity to enjoy our attention.

Don't mind them, my brother, sometimes I wonder what they stand to gain from all these shenanigans. All the same, Amotekun is here to stay.

MayorofLagos:
You are a coward race. There is not a single war of victory in your entire history.

1. You used terrorism to wipe out Hausaland. This was not a war.

2. Afonja and Yoruba soldiers plotted coup against Alaafin and recruited fulani to reinforce. Alimi in turn used coup to overthrow Afonja. This was not a war.

3. British invaded and fought you and defeated you easily. The mistake they made was refusing to return Hausa to their ancestral thrones.
You lost this war.

4. Biafran war fulanis were repeatedly wiped out by Ibos.

Name one war you ever fought and had victory.

That dunce is an Igbo miscreant from Onitsha head bridge. Check his profile you will see his true colour.

Conner44:
We have camped out cattle far away. They have grazed on sizable farms and are full.

Now it’s we the human Fulani that want to graze, we don’t eat grass but drink blood lol

We want the inhabitants of SW, when we are filled we will send in our cattle to finish off the greens and terraform the land into a desert.

You not a northerner but an IPob sympathiser.

knowledgeable:
Oh men, Oh boy... Yorubas have Fulanis on their balls now. This Amotekun is the (a true example of God's working in mistryous ways) greatest threat to fulanisation/islamisation in the sub-region. After all these threats, Fulanis will bow and offer the Yorubas anything offerable to quench amotekun (including, the presidency, money, their beautiful daughters, anything etc) or else.

1). The Yorubas can blackmail them with Dangote refinery

2). The Yorubas can enter into secret alliance with the middle belt, SE, and SS to resist them.

3). All the functioning Sea ports are under the Yorubas and they have options there as well.

4). Yorubas can complicate things for the caliphate if they take this to the African Union or any other external powerful entity willing to buy into it.

Wahala they o.. because in all these talks, no focus is on the root causes of all these problems or how to solve it.

Yorubas have we Igbos on our balls too with this Amotekun. All these crying coming from the North, have in reality elevated the Yoruba's political leveraging and which ever way they swing can effect Fulanis/Igbos positively or negatively period.

We Igbos must understand this unfolding dynamics seriously and start bowing down to our new masters... The Yorubas.

They are indeed very very sophisticated... even there music will explain that for you, if you are doubt.

We wouldn't blackmail anyone with Dangote refinery, we don't play that stupid game in the southwest.

Dangote refinery belongs to the Dangote group and not the north, we'll always work investor no matter their ethnicity and nationality.

jimyjames:
He is a liar and the reasons he gave for the blockage are lies apart from the food blockage, ojukwu selected a group of strong men in Biafra whom their duty was to work in the farm , Nigerians soldiers were targeting biafra farmers and destroying their farms they did everything possible to starve biafrans to death so his reasons are lies

Any evidence to back that up?

Correcto:
Spits? you lack manners, have you forgotten how you betrayed GEJ recently yet no one is pouring it on your faces? Was GEJ from the SE? People like you kept Nigeria in this situation.

How did we betray Jonathan?
Did Jonathan not surround himself with Igbos are Northerners, the same northerners that sabotage his effort?
Did Jonathan not sideline the Yorubas after they voted him en mass in his first term?

Throughout the history of Nigeria, Igbo has always supported the north despite having nothing in common and all the killing the north, they always support Northern. No Yoruba cries of marginalization, we always pick ourselves up to restrategize for future battle.

I have always been critical of any alliance with the north, reasons why i didn't support Buhari but I will never stand here and allow Igbo blackmail for what they're notorious for.

jimyjames:
He asked Gowon to block food from reaching Biafra so they can starve to death and 3 million innocent people died from starvation , that was an act or war directed by a civilian

Gowon was just a young man of 34 awolowo was like a father to him he did everything awolowo asked him to do

I have gone through his reasons for such a blockade and comparing it to your own bias write up I know who to trust, even a blind man will believe his own account over that of yours.

Awolowo has nothing to gain from the downfall of Igbos, he was genuinely consigned about the plight of the Igbo military elite drag into their ego trip. He meant well for the poor mases who were the victim of the war

jimyjames:
What evidence? All he said there were mere lies to clean his name, Gowon has his own lies to clean his own name too


If truly he loved Igbo's he could have asked Gowon not to declare war on Biafra when they separated , war wasn't the only way to solve the disagreement Gowon refused to keep to the agreement him and ojukwu had in Ghana, awolowo could have advised the young Gowon to do the right thing

He could he advise Gowon to the right has a Yoruba civilian in government dominated by Northern military juntas?

Please look at issues objectively before you talk abeg

jimyjames:
Awolowo is a pathetic liar no wonder he committed suicide after starving 3 million Biafra kids to death

Even in the face of glaring evidence, you can't help to be a religious bigot. Awolowo was a Yoruba hero, he will continue to be our role model in the death.

Muna4real:
All of you saying yorubas fought, yorubas fought. Where were they when illorin was won over? The yorubas still beg to have an oba in their own land.That is something that can never happen in igbo land.

Who won over Ilorin?
Because the last time I check Ilorin is still a Yoruba land

Advocate500:
keep writing nonsense in a bid to show support to a corrupt fool called tinubu whose only job in the west is to siphon ur future and that of generation, at least someone with ball is standing against him.i pray seyi will continue to deliver the dividend of good leadership to the good people of Oyo state. While bigot one's can find the closest transformer and hang themselves.

We like him like that, is he stealing your future?
Worry more about your paradise in the east where economic refuge are boarding the next available God is good bus to the east for greener pasture

9jii:
I know for a fact what you are saying you living in the north is not true.
But you are right to point out that Nigeria is a poor country and there is possibility to generate wealth.
Both north and south have similar problems of bad management by people which led to the condition Nigeria is now. Because of our differences in culture you from the south can't use what you were thought to be the standard in your culture to judge us.thats narrow minded way of thinking. There are things u didn't know about what people here put first before money. And you are manipulated into believing what you are thinking about people here, that's yu talked d way yu do.

What difference in culture?