₦airaland Forum

Empiree:
You too is placed in my recycle bin. You guys are machineries. You want chaos in ilorin in the name of preserving yoruba culture which you yourselves are losing to Western lifestyle. Having read this post and previous one shows you are bending your knees gradually.


If current one dies, you simply select qualified people and pick the MOST qualified one among them. I will be so glad if you guys are arrested for disorderly conduct if you people try to overthrow a legitimate Emir of ilorin. ilorites never said to you they are Fulani stooges.

You are too ignorant to understand the effect of your line of reasoning. Slavery is a mental block that is been perpetrated by religion, one can be mentally enslaved without chains like you, Islam doesn't mean you should lose control of one homeland to a foreign invader and all these lame excuses doesn't hold any water.

The Fulani only uses religion as a means of political control, It has been exhibited in many parts of Northern Nigeria, religion is just a means to an end for them, gullible people like you buy into that senseless blackmail and lies that Nigeria cultural practice is not compatible to Islam.

Nofav0rs:
I dare you to call me and I'll speak to you fluently in my dialect

Okuns are Yoruba, All the ones I have met, speak and identify as one

Empiree:
You SW citizens aren't even just to yourselves. You should be agitating for everything I mentioned which are basic needs. Kwara is largely a Yorubaland. So I don't see what you guys want. You just wanna cause problems.

Mind you, I am Yoruba. You guys don't know your priorities

You don't tell south Westerner what they should be agitating for. The boundary of the Yoruba nation is jeba and when the time is right, they will all be within the political boundary of south-west Nigeria

FriendNG:
Sit down there they deciev yourself mr slave. The richest black man on earth is an Aboki. The south south oil belongs to the north. We decide how is it being used not you. You head which economy.

No matter what you head, u still come and bow down to Buhari as the president to tell you what to do. To see how second class Nigerian you are.


Almijiri dictate to your grandparent, your parents, now dictating to you and shall dictate to your future genration.

And the good thing is, there is nothing you can do to change it. Obasanjo was a nothern canditate, we put him there because of Abiola death. Even then the SW dont want him but we say the devil is a liar. We the masters put him there.


You are a slave to Almajiri. Please change that sir. Even after 8 years, we the presidency will go to SE, then back to north. The slave aint smelling that chair anytime soon.

This guy is a very delusional fellow living in fool paradise.
All indicator of development and progressiveness place the core northerners at the bottom of the pyramid.
Literacy level : the north west us far behind the south west
Poverty rate : the north west is the poorest region together with the cousin in the north east while the south west is the richest region with very high standard of living.
Economic productive index: the north west/east is a big parasite bringing nothing to the table, the contribute less than 2% to government earning and take more than 40% through our dubious centralized system of government.

FriendNG:
Yes Ibadan cannot be compared with Kano. Kano is not a mate with any southern state with the exception of Lagos.

I am not talking of landmass size sir. Beauty infrastructure, hospital, good road etc. You can never compared Ibadan with Kano.

This guy must be high on those cheap solution commonly inhaled by jobless youth of kano and all other North western state.

Kano is a very crowded slum with millions of very poot uneducated almajiri than can easily by mislead by few educated elite. Kano is not even the most beautiful or well planned city in the North west, Kaduna is a much better city. Kano may have some few nice palaces where the few elite reside but majority of the city is a shit hole.

Ibadan is very big city with both old and new quarters, the old quarters of Ibadan show the history of the Yoruba race, it shows that our grandparents were knowledgeable enough to build storey buildings with stabilized bricks, it shows that's they were able to build huge community on their own. We also have the modern face of Ibadan that is better than any scanty gra you might have in your shit hole

tolulope2070:
Restructuring will change the status of Nigeria, USA is running a true federalism system of government in which each state runs the affairs of the state. What we are saying here is simple and direct. Let each state hv 50% of whatever is generating as a state ND federal have 20% or 30% to run some units of d govt like defense, international matters ND so on. States to run internal security, power, infrastructural development, education including tertiary institutions pay work according to d state income ND standard of living. The region thing is just to balance d development ND common interest. For example in southeast Ebonyi is very poor in IGR, d oda states in the region can collectively develop the region. In south south, cross river state IGR is a bit poor but oda states in d region can develop it. In southwest dat people think is very develop so to speak have Ekiti and osun to also cater for. Restructuring is the best solution to great Nigeria. THOUGH WE NEED TO BE CARE SO SOME GREEDY FELLOWS WILL NOT USE IT FOR THEIR PERSONAL INTEREST. GOD BLESS NIGERIA AS WE RESTRUCTURE OR else.

You don't owe this guy any explanation, he is core northern bigot with a very lazy mindset, a type that depend on free handouts from the central, the centralized system of government we have here is one of the biggest factor hindering the development of this nation, they love such system up North because they only have relevance in the face of chaos.

Note : North here means (north west and east)

givbitcoin:
Because he has outsmarted Tinubu? That tinubu is a greedy person. stop following him before he leads you to doom.

Talking like a true parasite. The most greedy people are people from barren North west and north east that feed on the national budget without adding any value to it

Majority of elite from these geopolitical zones got there money by pillaging the country tressure, they wait for free money without doing anything concrete with whatever free money giving to them. Without free oil money from the south, the north west will be worse than Niger republic

bilal4riid:
Every region has it's own share of predicament
Only in the So called literate region you find :
Arm robbery
Kidnapping
Fake fake...
IPOB
Vandals
Baby factory
Did you mention stealing? I can c in this one, Dezeini, Kashamu, Alamegsy, Ibori, Odua, NIA DG etc must be sent.

Are you saying the North is a Paradise where individuals live by the law?

North eastern Nigeria is one of the worse place to live on earth , a region comparable to war torn nations like Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Somalia

North lead among use drug, corruption, sexual transmitted disease, homosexuality etc.

It us the region with the largest number of parasite, a region where a great number of people depend on petroleum marketing as a way to steal government money, a region where majority depend heavily on government hand out

Reference:
Sure. They will be liberated from their feudal overlords to be independent, educated, properly empowered and obviously de-radicalised. Then they will begin to resemble the progressive gulf Arab states they so like to identify with.

The so called progressive Arab state are the one with unthinkable huge oil and gas deserves with very small population. Countries like Saudi Arabia will be worse than Northern Nigeria without oil.

No extremely conservative Islamic society can developed without extreme mineral wealth...if you doubt my assertion go to Yemen

cy4cent:
We owe the North nothing, absolutely nothing!

You are tired of a marriage, and you opt for separation, cos you feel your spouse is choking and maltreating you, then he or she turns around to say the only condition to allow you pull out is Blah, Blah, Blah!

Why should they feel they have the right to dictate to Nigeria ?
This is the born to rule mentality everyone has been complaining about.

If this forced marriage, called Nigeria would have worked, the north did more damage to it with this type of mindset, throwing a spanner at the wheel of progress.

Thank you my sister, I don't know why we are having this discussion, the southern of this country don't owed the north (north west and east )anything, we don't need to negotiate with them on how to use resources available to us.

And when people from the middle belt that has been marginalized, killed and people better positioned to take advantage because of their good climate, arable land, abundant natural resources and their closeness to the south to pitch their tent south ward side with the North, I get contused.

The biggest winner from a restructured Nigerian will be the people that produces crude oil and middle beltan people these are the two group that should be and the fore front of the call for restructuring.

Let's us forget about crude oil, most North eastern and western state are semi arid land that are constantly encroached by desertification, these two regions not only need oil or free money from the south and middle belt but also want their land.

Restructuring is inevitable

makoota:
The North is really taking us back in this country. So because they are not on the side restructuring we cant embark on that beautiful agenda.

The North is not taking you back, lazy government is taking you back....

People don't know that south eastern Nigeria is more parasitic than most northern state.

Kazim88:
I just looked up on Dutch Disease ... Learnt a new one..

Hmmm Nigeria is actually infected with the Dutch Disease
... Tomorrow let me look up the cure of the disease.

Oil boom didn't kill the massive and growing agricultural sector or the emerging small and medium manufacturing sector but lack of political and economic know how to use oil free money to jump-start an industrial and economic revolution kill Nigeria.

The bulk of the blame should be placed on the clueless military government at that time, men in uniform that lack the know how to use free oil money to kick start a revolution in manufacturing and agriculture.

My problem with elite from the North is their shortsighted approach to national issues. We have a skewed revenue sharing formula that favours the North west state like Kano, Kaduna, Katsina, Sokoto (basically) all north western states, where artificial population figures are given to these state to enable them have more local government so that they can dominate the national assembly and stronger more revenue from the central.

Markfemi2:
I thought they said we are cowards and we dont respond to north west as central is not part of north

Don't mind those developer... But we need to start supporting these two figures from the yoruba tribe.
The core North always behave as if they have monopoly over everything without respecting others.

holatin:
if inciting hatred and division on be behalf of the Yorubas is what you call been brave then brother I don't want to be brave in my life.

are they the only Yoruba's we have in Nigeria but why always them in the news for the wrong news

Why are you so scared of this so called arewa youth? Why didn't you respond when the arewa youth was lumping all the yoruba together because of the utterance of these two individuals?

I am yoruba and I am disappointed that people like you will be economical with the reality, yorubas are one irrespective of religion or political affiliation, and people like fani kayode are not Saint but they also have there good side... I will rather support him than take side with those idiot northern youth.

We all remembered all the insults , sharia agitation initiated by the north to destabilized Obasonjo presidency, the numerous "fatwa" issued by the same North, their cry for marginalization . The truth is that, some of us voted Buhari, but we can't continue to behave in such a manner that will show us to be coward. The north don't have monopoly of issuing threat or violence.

Omofunaab2:
Now, you are talking. .. If you had said this earlier maybe i won't have replied you the way i did... The guy was attacking yoruba and you kept agreeing him. you made it look like yorubas were some kind of conquered tribe in the north.. We really need to drop this "tolerance bullshit", some of them see it as cowardice besides the guy was indirectly abusing you but you kept agreeing with him.. We have crossed that bridge when, we no longer reply hatred with love, neither do we reply war with peace.


Well, I'm sorry for my earlier remark

No problem sir.....
You are doing a great job here and I think we need to take this out of nairaland to our respective yoruba communities for more people to be aware of what is going on

realjoker:
I was also bore and raised in the North and also note: I have stayed and visited many part of the northern states and I have a first hand experience of what is happening. And you saying Yoruba and Hausa being in alliance shows you don't know your history, you needs to restudy your history.

I know that we have always been in opposition and it was necessary we teamed up with them to chased away the ''clueless Jonathan '' . I know my history so well.

Omofunaab2:
This is one of the unity begging associated with many yorubas on this forum that i dread so much.. .. . Someone insulted the hell out of your tribe without any apologies and you here trying to negotiate peace with the same man.. you are even forming "yorubas are tolerant bullshit" Don't you get it? The dude has been abusing yorubas for so long on this thread claiming they are cowards.. . Well, where I come from in yoruba land, we don't tolerate shiit from anybody.. And you can't even hear of any foreigner making noise here.

I am sorry also if you misunderstood my intentions, I am not a unity begger, I believe the yoruba nation will do better by standing alone (with our brothers in the so called middle belt, I am part kwara), I will support oduduwa republic any day but at this point of our national life we can't keep making enemies everywhere repeating the mistakes of the igbos.

I don't like most of insult he was throwing around but I never wanted to heat up the discussion, I don't know what transpired between both of you so I don't want to take side. Most of the middle beltans I have met, respect us Yoruba and they always say yorubas are peaceful and progressive either Muslim or Christian, so I can't abuse his tribe based on his conversation here with you guys

realjoker:
I doubt your Yorubaness, dozens of your likes have been busted here on this thread and if you are you are ọmọ ale. You should better face the hausa Fulani army killing your people if you are liepod tout or better still face the hausa and Fulani who have succeeded in turning your states to war torn area if you are from benue or plateau state.

Oga! I am original "omo Karo ojire" I am pure Yoruba and a very proud one, I have been living in the north all my life so, I can relate to what the guy typed. He might exaggerated some of his point but he has a very good point.

People don't know that yorubas are more than igbos inoat northern city, yorubas travelled a lot contrary to some what some iPod youth used to say here. For example, one can survive in a city like Minna is one can speak Yoruba language alone because of the large number of yoryba people there. The truth these yorubas need to break away from algae alliance with Hausa Fulani, they don't see us as their friend and we should be ready to defend ourselves against this people.

Yorubas are not coward, we have fought so many wars even before the coming of the colonial masters, we have built better empire than any group in Nigeria w shouldn't relegate ourselves to people core Northerner can easily bossed around, we should be prepare to defend both home and abroad against any group be it Hausas or igbo

Nowenuse:
Please go and ask of any history of crisis in the north from those who live there! Here is your fellow yoruba who has lived in the north. This is why i keep on telling your likes to leave Oshogbo for once!



Yorubas do not stand to defend themselves in the north by fighting back like the Igbos do. I really don't know why. I understand that yorubas are respectful and peaceful people compared to Igbos and Hausas (especially on others people soil). But shiit, sometimes, one has gotta man up.
The problem i think with many yoruba muslims in the north is that they think because they are muslims then Hausa-fulanis will spare them, but they usually get the shock of their lives! Unlike Igbos that know that Hausas hate them, so they are always prepared for anything.

That was how some yoruba muslims went to hide in a mosque during Kaduna crisis, thinking they were safe, only for the Hausas to go drag them out of the mosques and butcher them. Likewise in Jos. Some of them (yoruba muslims) will start reciting islamic recitations thinking Hausas will spare them once Hausas find them, only for them to be called Munafuqi (hypocrites/ fake muslims) by the Hausas and still killed. ........Honestly i feel pity for these yoruba muslims during crisis in the north. But they are the fools here for allowing fake religious bond that doesn't exist enslave them!

You can imagine the Sultan of Sokoto is adressed as the spiritual leader of all muslims in Nigeria. A permanent position. What nonsense!
Why have the almost 20 million yoruba muslims never challenged this nosense title and dissociate themselves? On what basis was the Sultan of Sokoto made the permanent head of all yoruba muslims? Where was the election done? 9jakool, Markfemi2, AbakalikiPress and all yoruba muslims here, please i need an explanation from you guys!! Cos these are the reasons why other Nigerians see yorubas as cowards.

Just see what happened recently where Buhari sent Sallah message from London in Hausa language! This made it so obvious that the Hausas naturally don't even care if yoruba muslims who do not speak Hausa existed! And you will never hear yoruba muslims condemn or challenge hausas. What kind of 2nd class status can ve worse than this. Tufiakwa!



And that is what i am telling you! Most Plateau people in the South are educated and do not appear as Hausa-fulani muslims!
Our ladies and guys mostly dress like Southerners with jeans, gowns and western clothes always. We don't flaunt kaftans and hijabs like Hausa-fulanis. We don't do shoe making, mai ruwa, sell onions, carrots, mai shayi. We don't hawk. We rent houses among other residents. We do not live in seclusions and market/cattle communities like the Hausas do in the South! We worship in different normal churches with everyone else. So, we can not be easy targets for OPC members! Simple!

An average southerner can differentiate between an Hausa Fulani from many northern minorities because the manotities mingle more, are more educated, assimilate more and they are more tolerant. The middle beltans are one of the most wonderful people I have ever come across, I have some of them during my university days. They have wonderful work ethics, more tolerant religious wise and generally more similar to south westerners than core northerners.

We need more alliance with middle beltans, we need them for the arable land, we need to build political and economic bridge with them. The middle belt also need the yorubas because we have access to the sea, peace loving people and we share slot in common with you guys. I will beg you to stop all these e insult so that we can focus more on our common enemy

Nowenuse:
Please go and ask of any history of crisis in the north from those who live there! Here is your fellow yoruba who has lived in the north. This is why i keep on telling your likes to leave Oshogbo for once!



Yorubas do not stand to defend themselves in the north by fighting back like the Igbos do. I really don't know why. I understand that yorubas are respectful and peaceful people compared to Igbos and Hausas (especially on others people soil). But shiit, sometimes, one has gotta man up.
The problem i think with many yoruba muslims in the north is that they think because they are muslims then Hausa-fulanis will spare them, but they usually get the shock of their lives! Unlike Igbos that know that Hausas hate them, so they are always prepared for anything.

That was how some yoruba muslims went to hide in a mosque during Kaduna crisis, thinking they were safe, only for the Hausas to go drag them out of the mosques and butcher them. Likewise in Jos. Some of them (yoruba muslims) will start reciting islamic recitations thinking Hausas will spare them once Hausas find them, only for them to be called Munafuqi (hypocrites/ fake muslims) by the Hausas and still killed. ........Honestly i feel pity for these yoruba muslims during crisis in the north. But they are the fools here for allowing fake religious bond that doesn't exist enslave them!

You can imagine the Sultan of Sokoto is adressed as the spiritual leader of all muslims in Nigeria. A permanent position. What nonsense!
Why have the almost 20 million yoruba muslims never challenged this nosense title and dissociate themselves? On what basis was the Sultan of Sokoto made the permanent head of all yoruba muslims? Where was the election done? 9jakool, Markfemi2, AbakalikiPress and all yoruba muslims here, please i need an explanation from you guys!! Cos these are the reasons why other Nigerians see yorubas as cowards.

Just see what happened recently where Buhari sent Sallah message from London in Hausa language! This made it so obvious that the Hausas naturally don't even care if yoruba muslims who do not speak Hausa existed! And you will never hear yoruba muslims condemn or challenge hausas. What kind of 2nd class status can ve worse than this. Tufiakwa!



And that is what i am telling you! Most Plateau people in the South are educated and do not appear as Hausa-fulani muslims!
Our ladies and guys mostly dress like Southerners with jeans, gowns and western clothes always. We don't flaunt kaftans and hijabs like Hausa-fulanis. We don't do shoe making, mai ruwa, sell onions, carrots, mai shayi. We don't hawk. We rent houses among other residents. We do not live in seclusions and market/cattle communities like the Hausas do in the South! We worship in different normal churches with everyone else. So, we can not be easy targets for OPC members! Simple!

You are spot on, on some of the issues you raised here but I will indulge you to reduce some of the insult bro.

I have serious problem with yorubas that believe religion is a binding factors between us and the Hausa-fulanis. Some of these yorubas assimilate and behave like Hausa Fulani just to be accepted by them, the group mostly quilty of this offence are not even the so called northern yorubas like ilorin yorubas but mostly OGBOMOSHO (OYO STATE). These set of yorubas assimilate, speak Hausas, sometime they even deny their yoruba ethnic group just to attract cheap sympathy from hausa Fulani.

All what the Yorubas need to learn is the Hausas will never see themselves as equal to the yorubas.
Yorubas were Muslim even before many of the so called Hausa accepted Islam, Yoruba Muslim should never play second fiddle to mostly violent Hausa Fulani.
I don't accept sadauna of Sokoto as my leader, I don't accept a second class status for been a Yoruba Muslim.

Many yorubas in the north have learnt their lesson and they have started living in community with exclusively fellow yorubas, northern minorities and other southerners, they know that an Hausa man is not their friend because of religion.

Nowenuse:
Hahahaha, since you were listing all the years where Ilorin yorubas bleeped the Emir up, i honestly thought i would see a time like 1965, 1977, 1983 or any post- independence period.
We all know that Hausa-fulanis/northerners got their greatest power after independence when the British handed over rulership to them and the grip was further strengthened post civil war.

Let the Ilorin yorubas or OPC try to fucck the Emir up again please, we are waiting for a post independence episode. So, until then.

Talking about Hausa-fulani fighting over Jos. Have they won it yet? Do they have an ordinary district head there? Yes, we made the mistake of accomodating them in the past just as we accomodated yorubas, Igbos & Bendelites who came en masse during the Tin mining, but rest assured, since we have known who they are. We have placed them where they belong. We no longer share the same neighbourhoods again and they can never acquire any lands again outside their present abodes. There are many other towns in Plateau states where Hausa-fulanis cannot pass on a vehicle, let alone stay. Go and ask how they are marginalized in their quarters.

Did i hear you talk about conflicts? Did Hausas not defeat yorubas in the Mile 2 crisis? What about the Shagamu crisis? They were battling with you guys on your own land which is very far from the north, while back in Kano they slaughtered every yoruba on sight and finished off everything yoruba in Kano. Your people are still in prison for the sake of fighting hausas in Ife (defending their own land). What have you done? We are minority groups who were misplaced by the colonial masters, but you are a majority group being bossed and tossed by your own fellow majority group, is that not a shame?
The Igbos seem to be the only ones who have the guts to challenge Hausa-fulanis without fear, they have once stood their ground in Kano and defeated the hausas on their own soil.

See, i don't want to go into listing instances the numerous times Hausa-fulanis have fuccked yorubas up. I leave that to the Igbo keyboard warriors, with whom you guys always have such debates.

But let me tell you something you don't know cos you talked about Jos crisis. Do you know that in any Jos crisis or any major religious crisis in Jos, Kaduna, Kano, Zaria. Yorubas loose the most?? Why is this so? This is because Yorubas are almost equally divided religiously and another reason i'd say they are cowards.

Igbos and Northern christians instantly take sides against Hausa-fulani muslims whenever crisis starts and Igbos are ready to die to protect their businesses, so we make a good team and chase away every muslim from christian-dominated areas.
Yoruba muslims on the other hand are regarded as fake muslims by Hausas, so, Hausas waste them like no tomorrow and they are usually caught up against both religious divides, to the extent that yoruba muslims will start running to christian areas, because they prefer their fate with christians than against Hausas. Now, by the time you add up yoruba muslim casualty in both Hausa muslim and Christian areas and yoruba christians in muslim areas. The figures are something else.

Nasarawa gwong area of Jos used to be heavily dominated by Yoruba muslims before 2008 crisis, but Hausas chased them all away. The yorubas could not defend themselves, if it was Igbos, such would never have happened. Now, i know you will say ''Jos is not yoruba land, so why should they defend it?''. See, Jos is one of the most cosmopolitan cities in Nigeria cos during the Tin minning boom, many yoruba, Igbo, Hausa mine workers and their families were settled on ancestral lands in Jos by the British, so, these lands later ended up to be dominated by non-indigenes (most of whom never left Jos back to their homelands), this is why you find 3rd and even 4th generation yorubas, igbos, hausas, deltans in Jos. Now, igbos lost some of their areas during the civil war when they all left Jos and this was how hausas expanded their own areas more.

No need for me to explain further. Well, if you haven't travel to northern cities, do so and get the shock of your life with the yoruba population you find there.

Look at this link below where your own yoruba leader in Jos confirmed about 156 yorubas that died in the 2010 Jos crisis. Another link i saw somewhere estimated about 400 yorubas to have died in the 2008 crisis.

https://www.nairaland.com/405771/yoruba-lost-156-lives-property

I was a yoruba Muslim ( albeit a closet atheist now), you absolutely spot on some of the issues you raised above.
The problem is not that yoruba are caword but yoruba are liberal and peace loving people, majority of the yoruba in the north are only interested in how to make a meaningful living and as a result are caught un aware when their is a violence.

The truth is hausa-fulani use religion as a political tool to control others, this is one of the reasons why I have to do a more thorough research and analysis of the religion. Islam is a political tool used by the founder to plunder and steal things that doesn't belong to him, the hausa and fulani also use this method to plunder and steal what doesn't belongs to them.

I was born in the North, I grew up in the north and I have a great respect for northern minority in places like plateau, Kaduna, taraba, bauchi etc. These people are peace loving people, they receive a great deal of immigrants from yoruba, hausa and igbo but only the husas fight over things that don't belong to them.
The hausa-fulani through the help of the military dictator has established themselves in areas that doesn't belong to them, they abuse the indigenous, fight to grab land etc.

Most yoruba Muslim don't hass lick hausa-fulani in the north but we have some minority that does that but after the kano riot of 2001 many of these yoruba no better. If there is a problem in the North, I will rather side with a northern minority Christian than an hausa fulani.

Hausa fulani also kill minority like gwari Muslim, Igala Muslim, egbira Muslim etc if their is religious violence

bionixs:
you don't get. I mean that Yoruba Muslims are the most gullible people I have ever known. They stand for nothing. even the Hausa Muslims know that they are wasting their time. how could one jump to Islam for personal reason. either because he is allowed to take up to 4 wives or could be officially neck deep in voodoo like th alfas or consult them openly. I wander. in Lagos,you don't know if Yoruba muslims are muslims or Christians. they go to mosques on Sunday while their masters in the religion,the hausas watch in amusement and amazement

I have been yoruba Muslim since birth, all my siblings and parents are yoruba Muslim, most of my extended family are yoruba Muslim, I have been living among these so called northern Muslim and the fact is you people always get emotional when politics is discussed. Yorubas Muslim are not slave to hausas, yoruba Muslim mostly worship in their mosque in most northern city, they choose their own imam, go to yoruba Muslim madrasa, and form their political opinions without external influence.

Yoruba Muslim have a culture and most of them see themselves first as yoruba before Muslim, they relates well with other yorubas of other faith, they celebrate with them during their festive period.

I have been a closet atheist for years and still dine and whine well with my Muslim brothers without any problem, most of them just seemed as unserious Muslim without any problem. Yorubas are the most tolerant set of people you can ever live with, they tolerate you and respect your views without ridiculing you or making you uncomfortable.


You also talk as if voodoo is a bad thing because you now worship your white God aka Jesus, I don't believe in voodoo and your white God aka Jesus but I respect traditionalist more than your white slave.

bionixs:
don't mind the fateless bunch. The Baale of my area said that he became a Muslim because he wanted to belong and be carried along as a civil servant. now that he is retired, if you see the hut he could build from the so-called benefit of leaving Christianity,you will wonder aloud how he could be that stupid. He was sick and almost died recently,it was CHRISTIANS that he cried to for prayers after the alfas couldn't help. thank God he is improving

I pity for people that believe in your poo... Christianity is a mind controlling tools for keeping people like you in perpetual fear forever.

The prayers of Christians that haven't lift million of them out of poverty, that hasn't cure the various disease like cancer, diabetes, malaria killing her followers daily will now cure a Muslim abi....
By the way, where were your pastors and prayers when ebolas was killing people in Guinea and Liberia?

Igboesika:
Break up is inevitable.
Yoruba Muslims are free to attack this outspoken man for his wonderful opinion as usual, but failed to attack @bokis that said that's Osibanjo won't succeed Buhari come 2019 all because they share the same faith. I pity Yoruba Christians.

Smh.

I will have to accept this message as an ex yoruba Muslim. Islam is a tool for political control used by north western Muslim (kano, katsina, northern kaduna and sokoto), they use the imaginary 19 northern States and religion to subverge the rest of the nation.

As an atheist I have started to be against this type of arrangements that has hinder the growth and progress of the nation, the turning point is the oppression ditching out to the middle beltans(plateau, Nassarawa, Benue, kogi, taraba) and some northern Christianity, these group are frustrated and are tired of this domination

Tombrook0:
Lagos state material test for building construction,

I know it is Lagos state material testing lab that set the standard but the question is what are the parameters used. Parameters like strength in N/mm2

Trudax:
How can you claim all humans have the same intelligence when we evidently differ in every other expressable trait? If there are genes that control every other trait, couldn't it be that there are genes that control intelligence and some races tend to have more highly evolved forms of these genes and possess it in greater number among their population?

But your FEW black classmates are just a minority in respect to the entire black population. How can you use their example as a conclusive proof to make the assertion that every race has the same intelligence? The Chinese outperform every other race irrespective of their environment. And their performance also corresponds with the results of IQ tests which blacks tend to underperform other races on the average.

I think the culture, structure and environment of a large group of individuals, is a more reliable way of evaluating variables such as intelligence. That's why in my argument against Sarassin, I used the the history and present situation of sub-saharan Africa to illustrate my point.

I don't think this is a self degrading question. I think it's one of the problems underlying sub-Saharan Africa's underdevelopment and why it's lagging behind in various areas, and acknowledging it, is the first step at mitigating this problem.

To begin with, there is no such thing as '' sub-Saharan Africa '' most of the people living South of the desert don't have much in common, the only thing they have in common is dark skin which is an evolution trait.

If intelligent is a function of how light an individual his you will expect lighter skin blacks or blacks with considerable white admixture to show more level of intellect. Majority of world population lives in abject poverty so that can't use as a yardstick to proof black intellectual inferiority, central Asian, eastern Europe have countries as poor as their African counterparts despite been predominantly white

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monsieurbanky:
the answer is not 8 .h is not 8
u can see y I said it gave me tough time
it is not as simple as u think

The answer is 8.805cm

olasaad:
They won't come out because they all share the same political ideology which is self interest. And if you don't know Nigeria is like a business centre where you expect to gain in the end.

You are right though

olasaad:
Well said, my brother. The 2019 election will be a clean sheet for Saraki because nobody in the state is ready to waste their resources by competing with them.

Must a politician use money or resources to win an election? This is the type of mentality that will make us be a shit hole forever. They are many qualified individuals in Kwara state with initiative and know how to developed the state, all we need to do is support such people