₦airaland Forum

Cherez:
It is only a fool who will argue that any state is better than Lagos in revenue. You only got blind to my argument.
The guy I quoted mocked Abia & Enugu for kerosene while a while Lagos was dishing out garri & gnut.
Oga, who would you say does better?
The Igbos dont leave the east for Lagos cos it is El Dorado but a fault of this contraption Nigeria.
Lagos is the closest airport, seaport, even embassies started relocating to Abuja recently. So Lagos us like the door to Lagos.
Igbos especial migrate for businesses, I bet you can find an Igbo man close to Sambisa selling food items or even IDP camps selling recharge vouchers.
I also believe Lagos is overchoked and people should be deported to their states cos Lagos is un deep shit now and hardly habitable safe for the highbrow areas.

They live for Lagos because it is their el dorado not the fault of any contraption called Nigeria. Igbos need Nigeria not the other way around, you go to other Nigeria because you are retailer and need people with purchasing power, the south-east don't have the purchasing power of the North and West that is why you all rush to these areas for greener pasture not because of the design of any government.

9jii:
You clearly show that you don't know what you are saying about the North. I don't knw if may be you were ever in any northern state before, it must be the time before you have an eye or mental capacity of understanding. I have seen destitution anywhere in the south as in the north. And in the south people cry more of hardship in the country than in the north.

I am currently in Minna has I speak, I live here in Northern Nigeria, I have been to most Northern states from Niger to Katsina, when I speak about what is happening in the North I'm speaking like a stakeholders not has a hater.

Does the North have capacity to generate wealth? yes it does but glossing over the glaring social problem will keep on postponing eventuality.
Nigeria is a poor country and majority of her inhabitant are poor from north to south but the North are in a much worst condition, that is just the truth.

jimyjames:
If at all power is to come to the south based on rotation then its the south east , if not then it will remain in the north and noting will happen

I don't have a problem with Igbo presidency but you will have to work for it, no one is given you on a plate and no one will stop the Yoruba from also contesting. No one will micro-zone it to the east, it is North-south presidency.

Cherez:
Wheel Barrow from Enugu and Kerosene from Abia, right?
[b]Yet Garri and Gnut in a whole Lagos with revenue almost 4 multiples to that of these states.
Does it ring a bel[/b]l?
Oga GSM has really been doing well for his people, has also declared his assets and made it public unlike your crook leaders.
Meanwhile, Oga Tinubu says Amotekun is not what you need now.
https://www.newsbreak.ng/operation-amotekun-not-what-south-west-needs-says-tinubu/

Don't be smart by half, the question you must be asking yourself is why do your people live this paradise behind to head to states like Osun, Kwara, Ondo and Oyo?
Lagos is a state with a population of over 20m people, this put much constrain on infrastructure and with a meager revenue and expenditure of $3b dollars the state is doing well compare to states in the east that get free money from federal government without anything to show for it.
You people need to stop masturbating and disturbing yourself about affairs of others while neglecting your own affairs and region. Please channel your energy in criticizing your government just as we don't see Northerners here criticizing other regions leaders but why must you guys criticize others always.

Kulas:
What a transparent and courageous Governor. This is the type of people we need in this country. I am an Igbo man but if this man comes out to contest for the presidency. I will vote for him. What a man of Integrity!

Because he tells you what you want to hear?
He is a man of integrity just by antagonizing Tinubu?
We know that Igbo will always hate on you when you are successful. You hate Tinubu because you see him as the light of the Yoruba race, not because of your fathom hate for a greedy politician because we all know that the most greedy people are found in the east.

jimyjames:
Both[b] south south[/b] , south east, and middle belt won't vote for you , and the north won't vote for you , we know what obasanjo did to this country in the past , presidency is going back to the north

now you speak for the boded? Empty barrel makes the loudest noise. It is immaterial where the president comes from in the south be rest assured that the presidency is coming down south in 2023.

Nigeria unity will be on the line for power to remain in the North, the people that matter both North and south know this and they wouldn't want to risk our unity due to you own ego trip.

Ajibade123:
I am beginning to like this Makinde..his performance has been really significant

see 20 reasons why students fail and solutions
https://explicitsuccess.com/reasons-why-students-fail/

What has he really done?

ludd2018:
Unite for what? For one Nigeria? No way.WHAT is good for us is separation . We 'll better as neighbors .....'ll be more respect

How do you separate then?

Anambralstson:
2023 is behind the corner, you guys will start an agitation for secession soon, power can't return to West rather it will go back to North, mark my words.

Shallow minded individual, we'll all be here to witness you wail for marginalization when such happen. Grown-up men that allow sentiment to cloud their judgment will never achieve anything.

To bust your bubble, the presidency is coming down south and the Yoruba will take part in it if we win it, then there is nothing you can do than to wail in agony.

Anambralstson:
You wrote a Python dance scenario can't happen in West I believe you have low memory, Operation Crocodile Smile was lunch in South-West what did you guys do rather than making silly noise on media as you guys are known for.

Everything is not us against them, sometimes I begin to doubt the age and maturity if most of you on this platform. Most of you can't see beyond your narrow tribalistic mind.

Zuluhead:
yeah, there are prostitue in the Arab region but no alimajiri and millions of young able beggars. if a young girl decides to sell her body, its left to her. but the level of development in both regions is uncomparable.

Don't mind that guy, he is living in his delusion, in a world where the north is not the poverty capital of Nigeria, in a world where 80%of poor Nigerians are not living in the core North in a world where Kano state don't have 3m children out of schools, in a world where most of the revenue comes from North. Let them continue TI tell themselves comforting lies instead of tackling all their social problem head-on.

9jii:
If you have ever left the south east to anywhere, no way u ll be talking like this.
I have been to the east many time I have seen so many street kids, very young girls into prostitution, young boys into so many crimes. Their lives and of Almajiri have no difference.
We have our people in every field in this country and outside, and every day our people are in pursuit of knowledge of any kind. We don't have to brag like you.
If you travel the north I ll know from d way u talk.u sure didn't. Talk less if oversea

This is bullshit! You can't compare the social-economic well-being of any southern groups to those of the North. Southeastern Nigeria is much better than the North in so many indexes, take this from someone that has been to both region.

The North is seriously lacking in human development indexes reasons why all private sectors are dominated by southerners even in the North. What we have in the north is the rich and the poor with none existence middle class, the reasons why poverty is so rife. There're states in the North were the only okay people are the civil servant, you will never see these anywhere.

I have lived and been to almost all Northern states. I have also worked in most eastern states so, I know what I am saying.

gloriaunobi:
Trust me the Yorubas will scrap Amotekun...they can be loyal for Africa.

In your dream I guess.
There I no going back here, we'll see the program to the end.

Madas1986:
Spare me that trash u are saying all dis just to get many like on ur comment devoted Muslim indeed

What is your problem?
Do you know Fulani herdsmen don't discriminate the religion of the victim?

Do you know that this is just an attempt to stop the Yoruba from having a united front?

Most of you here are ignorant and fail to see the bigger picture, no matter how hard you try, Yoruba will always be united a group.

WorldRichest:
The way the Fulanis have been doing in South East? You watch and see that Yorubas are not lazy chest beaters but action takers.

Please don't make this about Igbo and Yoruba

NaMeAboki:
Why bother chasing them away and risking physical conflict when you could have easily resolved the problem by obliterating their cows by remote control with lightning - instead of resorting to self-help and now have to be sleeping with one eye open in case of reprisal?

To begin with, open grazing is not feasible and will always create a problem when Fulani moves to an area not used to their method of animal husbandry. This method is not sustainable and will always create crises, the best solution is to completely stop open grazing in regions south of the River Niger and Federal government should build smaller dams along waterways in North to cater for grazing during the dry season in the North.

Ultimately, we'll need to move into 21st century of cattle rearing, where such a trade is treated as a business and all battles are placed in a ranch.

budaatum:
You will split my Osun State too? Goodluck with that, you non-ethnic deluded person who because of Fulani terrorist wants to become a Yoruba terrorist!

You are not from Osun state my friend!
A true Omoluabi will not antagonise Amotekun

ProudDick:
They are still here in Ibadan. Only the court can declare anything illegal. You failed like malami.

Don't mind them, my brother...

ProudDick:
Amotekun is traditional. Duh!

Amotekun is here to stay

budaatum:
I agree! Amoteku is illegal and will be banned! And most are sleeping as they slip into that which would destroy our nation, which is the desired outcome of some and why one ought be cautious of agreeing with their myopic or outright evil ideas! States will create militants and governors will use them to terrorise their opponents! Then they would split into PDP and APC groups and fight wars with each other, thereby truncating our democracy!

But Fulani terrorist aka herdsmen are not a threat to our democracy?

Bunch of delusional ethnic champion. A nation that can't every ethnic nationality within its border doesn't deserve to remain as one. Nigeria is not useful to us Yoruba, we will split the country and go our way, you desert dweller can continue to live in your 6th-century utopia Arabian sharia state.

NaMeAboki:
Improve our security architecture and empower the law enforcement agencies with better equipment, training; more personnel and funding; and cooperation from local communities in terms of providing necessary intelligence.

Good points throughout but we are only looking at the security point, what about the salient point of old age practice of open grazing?

What about the economic hardship being faced by both harder and farmers that are forcing more people into crime?
I live in Abuja and I travel extensively across the north-central, south-west and north-west zones and all I see are angry youth ready to do anything to makes a living. How do we control our explosive population, create wealth in our rural areas through cartage industries, farming and agro-processing?

As people, we need to look holistically into conflict resolution, wealth creation and population control mechanism.

NaMeAboki:
No one is against community policing, the president even said so himself; however, such arrangements must have approval and be sanctioned by the FG and relevant law enforcement agencies.
As for your question (in bold) I have already addressed it in one of my earlier posts.

- because there is always the danger that such outfits can easily be hijacked or get out of control and therefore mushroom to something never imagined or intended before (e.g. an ethnic supremacist witch-hunting or separatist machinery) in view of which no govt will sit back and fold its arm at such possibility.

I agree with the bolded.

If I may ask, what is the way forward to checkmate the issue of kidnapping and herder-farmer clashes in both North and South?

NaMeAboki:
They are being arrested and often killed in the process every day - their pictures are all over the internet if you care to look.

But you will agree with me that the way the federal government is handling the issue of herdsmen is playing into the hands of the propagandist to cause a problem.

The federal government has failed to protect life and property both in the south and north, don't you think it will better for the state/regional government to have some kind of security architecture in place to complement the work of the federal government?

NaMeAboki:
Is that why the IGP released a statement in which he said, anyone carrying illegal arms would be arrested?
Did you also read the last paragraph of the AGF's statement (attached to this thread) - if you did; what did you think he meant?

But we all know that herdsmen carry illegal firearms why hasn't anyone of them being arrested?

NaMeAboki:
I imagine you believe your governors have equipped this Amotekun to be better and efficient than the Nigerian military and police - well done; clap for yourself.

The problem with the Nigeria force is political and lack of capacity. We are seriously under policed in Nigeria, there are thousands of community without police presence both in the north and south, this gives room for criminals to easily have their ways.

Having community police doesn't stop the federal government from doing their job, it will only complement their activity.

If I may ask, why are you guys so worried about a security outfit created to solve a problem than the instigator of the problem itself?

NaMeAboki:
I am glad you enjoyed your NYSC days and felt the love of Sokoto in those days. I can assure you that, although Nigeria of the 80's cannot be the same today; however, not much has changed in terms of your fundamental rights since then.
Southerners and Christianity continue to thrive in Sokoto (and by extension, most of the Muslim north) without fear or molestation.

Having said that; unfortunately, most of you southerners will continue to disagree because of your innate tendency to always view any issue or move by northerners from your narrow ethno-religious perspective:
Arabic letters on our currency notes and military insignia (introduced by the British); herdsmen attacking and killing more Muslims/northerners; Boko Haram attacking and killing more Muslims; Sharia which applies to Muslims only ........and so on, are all being deliberately misinterpreted as Islamisation/Fulanisation agenda by southern political losing elites in order to curry more favour/relevance and support from their apparently gullible lot.

As already mentioned, Hisbah was introduced in affected states to enforce Sharia laws on Muslims only alongside some moral laws on the generality of the citizenry - including the much misunderstood prohibition of alcohol (which was not enacted under Sharia law, as most of you misconstrue).

On the other hand; Amotekun (as you even admitted in your post) is intentionally being set up by the SW states as a security outfit - SECURITY being the key word here; which clearly fall within the exclusive list and therefore outside the responsibility of the state/regional governments.

I will advise your governments to key into the existing FG defence structure (police, military etc) in a collaborative way e.t.c. JTF rather than going it alone - which is illegal.

Don't just pretend that northerners are some kind of angels that are devout ethnic bigotry. The truth is we are guilty of ethnic chauvinistic because has always shown that some section of the country are ill bent on dominating and unfair to others when they are in a position of authority.

It's imaterial if Fulani terrorist has killed more northerners than southerners or more Muslim than Christians or the fact that some demography decided to keep mute in the face of injustices doesn't mean we should keep mute and continue to act all is well. The core north sees Fulani as their lord that can do no wrong but we in the southwest don't share in such sentiment. We'll continue to make laws that will protect us against external aggressors be it Fulani, Hausa or Igbo.

goshee:
if you ever criticise NK and IPOB for preaching disintegration of the zoo may you and your household know no peace all your lives

Amen

NaMeAboki:
The interpretation of the law is not a northern matter; you governors did not do their homework, they did not check the constitution and clearly over stepped their executive boundaries; despite the array of lawyers they would have had at their behest - pls do not blame northerners for their blunder.

Do not also confuse Hisbah which is entirely different, set by relevant states to enforce religious and moral codes against Amotekun currently set up by the SW regional states as a defence outfit - which (defence) clearly fall within the exclusive list and therefore outside the jurisdiction of state governments.

It is purely a legal issue and not a regional matter - if in doubt, let your governors challenge it in court.

Amotekun is not a defence issue, it was set up to checkmate activities of criminal within a locality. It is a community policing which is allowed in a federating state.

The political sharia in the North doesn't have the constitutional backing to have a militia group to enforce religious law in a secular country. They don't have the right to destroy alcohol that is allowed by the constitution of the Nigeria state. The southerners decide not to border themselves with what is going on in the North because it is none of their business and the North shouldn't show their hand on southwest affairs because it is none of their business.

The criminal herdsmen will be dealt with and nothing you and your elite can do about it

CSTR2:
Shut the fucck up.
Who insulted you? You keep digging yourself into a hole.

You have all these potentials and yet all your leaders including the citizens are scared of disintegration.
Even the north is not afraid of disintegration.

Economic prosperity indeed. This clown still thinks Lagos would be the same in a true autonomic system where states would be particular about their natural resources and the companies that exploits them.

Abi no be Lagos be your all in all. ? E pass Lagos?

Lagos will be better in a restructured Nigeria Nigeria. The economic immigrant that comes to Lagos to constitute a nuisance will be forced back to their states of origin. Each state will have the power to target what time of people they want in their domain.

Apart from Lagos, there is Ogun, Oyo, Ondo, Osun, Ekiti and Kwara state. All the aforementioned states are richer in both human and natural resources than all the erosion ravage state in the east reasons why they all host refugee from the east.

jimyjames:
You all were clapping for FG when they were killing ipob on a daily basis for protesting and asking for a referendum you called us terrorist and say referendum is not constitutional , well the say thing is happening to you people now enjoy it

What is the similarity between a group agitating for a referendum and another group settling up a security force to curb criminality in their domain?

I am not excusing those praising the federal government for killing Ipob because I believe every nationality within the artificial state of Nigeria deserve to have a say if they will continue to remain in this entity. the truth is, the majority of Nigeria youth are delusional and always fail to see the bigger picture. No Yoruba should go against Ipod agitation because of their struggle has nothing to do with us.

Amieinu123:
all those that commented just make it based on the ethnic, geographical point of view. Everyone knows its government established Answeresings. even the hisbah and the co you people are mentions is against the constitution, and even in the north, only a few states recognise it. So its illegal want it or leave it...

Can you quote the section of the constitution that made regional watch group illegal?

Does Nigeria police force have the personnel and resource to effectively policed all the local government in Nigeria?

Answers to the aforementioned question will help you to see why people view this differently

eldoradoxx:
I am neither South Easterner nor buy the idea that you guys voted because u wanted to advance Nigeria, you wanted to punish the South South for having the guts to produce a President. You wanted to test power by all means, look at what you guys got!

Don't make this about the minorities in the south-south. You mean the Yoruba want to punish the same south-south candidate whom the Yoruba support in 2011 against the same Buhari? You mean Yoruba want to punish south-south whose son was nominated by Yoruba man to be the running mate late Yaradua? Abeg! Stop