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EgunMogaji2:
You should see me today.

I drove from Ibadan to Ijebu Ode for my monthly association meeting.

At New Garage I asked the agberos at New Garage how far with peace in Ijebu? Did same at Mamu and Oru.

Pessin wey no get mama no dey get wound for back

EgunMogaji2:
I wouldn’t mind tutoring under you for this roof design. My next build has something similar and I still can’t figure it out.

That project is in my prayer request. I’m tired of sharing 1847 builds

I’d be happy to show all the details including the structural and mechanical design details. The toughest part of the roof design is selection of materials. Glass won’t work but polycarbonate sheets.

EgunMogaji2:
You this man ehn?

Baba, we no say you no get money na
For here e be like say wahala dey for person wey no dey follow trend.

For me, I kukuma stay for my level by chosing functionality over form.
I decided to stay with zero-maintenance longspan roofing sheet jeje as seen on the most beautiful australian modern bungalows.

@ salisuammy

What are you waiting for? Create a thread on kobocity.com and start showcasing your projects to an audience of people who are ready to buy.

Use the private messaging function to contact the admin to get your business verified.

michlins:
thanks bro for your efforts in winning this battle. If things had gone South,it will cement some people beliefs that transacting with strangers is risky. Meanwhile na your closest fellows go chop you without remorse.


Thanks once again. B like I go sign up for kobocity

Good people like you shouldn’t be made to go through the unending dramas that happen here.

We all need a better platform that protects the interest of all and sundry.

We won’t stop at protecting you. We will equip and support you in every step of your journey with us.
What this mean to someone like you is that you can work in any part of the country as if you’re in Nnewi even have access to your favorite dishes

n3xt:
Update:

Progress picture from team mountmoriah. just few more sheets to cover.

Update:

Job completed. Roof installers have left the site. Awaiting final picture updates.

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Conflict is pretty much inevitable when we work with others.

When two people involved in a business transaction oversteps the mark of healthy difference of opinion, resolving conflict requires respect and patience - a clear sign of maturity.

As we grow, we must learn to control our emotions, perceptions, and actions whenever conflict arise. We must learn to deal with facts and avoid talking outside context as it allows conflict to build and fester, without being dealt with directly.

Lastly, it takes emotional maturity to prioritize the health of the relationship over the ego-feeding need to be right.

Many thanks to all the valuable contributors on this matter. Your difference makes a difference.

Together we can make Nigeria great again without unnecessary dramas, ban threat, assault... !

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Smart homeowners and suppliers who do not want headache use kobocity.com
In our constantly evolving world of work, everything is all about taking responsibility.

Horlardorjah:
so much love for atrium skylight, I did two of this I think 2016 or so in asaba

Gone are the days of traditional architecture. With an atrium, natural lighting and cross ventilation in all rooms comes as easy as pie.

Beframia:
This your 0.35mm guage then is what is being dished out as 0.55mm now.

It was super-light back then too and people don’t use it.

Disclaimer: For anyone reading this, pls don’t go and be looking for 0.35mm o. It’s not as easy as portrayed o. Go for 0.45mm at least.

adesegun121:
0.35mm that mean the installers did very good work
Although i don't supply such guage due to the thickness
Too light for me but lot of clients request for it
I just look away if you can't purchase 0.45mm is better you make use of slate i don't want wahala or maintenence

You deserve the award of the best roofer in Africa for this.

0.35guage without wrinkles can only be done by a professional installer.

I actually did it intentionally to prove that your installation is as good as the company/person installing it. The way some roofer mess up materials when installing gets me worried.

n3xt:
Update:

The team has closed for today. They’ll round up the job tomorrow.

Update:

Progress picture from team mountmoriah. just few more sheets to cover.

More roofing woodwork.

You’d hardly spot the difference in the wood spacing. It costs more wood but the extra cost is almost negligible on any project size.

adesegun121:
Boss permission to post this on my roofing thread?

Sure. Let the clients understand that if you’re thinking of saving money, save elsewhere apart from foundation and roofing.

If you have closely packed woodwork and nail point is well spaced, you’ll have a roof that’ll last forever.

Pic 1 - My 10 year old maintenance free roof (pic taken 1 minute ago). It’d be shocking to hear that material is 0.35guage

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First to comment on page 2000, @ Hajj mufutau55 wey my winning

When it comes to woodwork, you’d hardly notice the difference in spacing in my projects. The savings ain’t worth the problem you’d face later on.

Here are few woodwork done by me:

Pic 1: Longspan
Pic 2: Step Tiles
Pic 3 - 4: Stone Coated

jedisco:
Thanks...
Interestingly, the woodwork has been done... What do you think of this spacing? Can it take step-tiles?

Also, what's your experience with step-tiles...any better than metcoppo?

I'm wondering if it's midway between longspan and metcoppo in terms of aesthetics and leaking issues

I’ve used step tiles on many projects but metcoppo I really don’t like.

The woodwork in the picture you attached is fair for longspan roofing and not good enough for step tiles aluminum.

See the spacing of my woodwork below used for my longspan roofing 10 years ago.

jedisco:
Hmm..and I used to think the woodwork for the different aluminium roofing sheets were interchangeable...

So you're saying that for step-tile or metcoppo has to be closer?

Yes sir.

Flat Roof + Skylight over Atrium in an upcoming proposed development.

The contemporary flat roofs look very simple but costs more to build than traditional roof designs when done right.

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Pic 1 - Proposed Development
Pic 2 - Roof Plan (Mechanical Drawing)
Pic 3 - Atrium Skylight
Pic 4 - The Atrium (make una help me beg my client who wan use atrium plant vegetable . Indoor Vertical Garden comes to mind though).

spyder880:
I still hold my views as before, I now use Long span sheets in my own buildings these days, I also advice my clients to not use Metcoppo sheets, but if they must use it, I can buy and install it for them on one condition, that they will pay for repairs if there is a leakage later on. I lost a lot of time and money repairing Metcopo leaks in 2010 to 2015.

I thought longspan are used by those who are not rich like us

adesegun121:
Yes sir this point still Valid but with the guage at which imported aluminium deal on now
I recommend 0.55mm thickness to 0.45mm due to the machine stepping
And for the roofing leakages bad installation cause most leakages
And in another angle if you installed metcopo or Steptiles on Longspan woodwrk
That building will leaks forever.. Unless you add more wood to that spacing

Yes to the bolded.

megacontrol:
He will be working under the supervision of an experienced COREN certified structural engineer/builder.

My inexperienced in-law just got his COREN certificate last week. He hasn’t even built a dog house before.

No pun intended baba. I’m just stating the obvious.

I wrote this few days ago.

n3xt:
My dad told me ”Learn to shut the door of relationship gently because you may need to use it later.”

I think we’re all guided by our moral compass.

“I’ll show him who I am.” “He’ll leave to regret ever knowing someone like me.” “You’ll rot in hell.” “I’ll collect my N10 change from that motor boy.” “I’ll snuggle life out of his business.”

Moral compass is an internalized set of values and objectives that guide a person with regard to ethical behavior and decision-making.

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For a power-seeker, revenge is a way to remind others you're not to be trifled with. Hence in an uncontrolled community or state where the rule of law is weak and everyone is everything, revenge provides a way to keep order.

qdlvy:
Shameful conduct coming from this client. Just as the thread caution against potentially fraudulent vendors, it's also important to stress the need to avoid problem clients like this. Considering the economic problems in the country, I'm not sure how realistic it is for vendors to turn down doing business with impatient, belligerent clients but I can't imagine the headache dealing with such people. Una de try.

The least the client can do is to retract and apologize.

It’s the most honorable thing to do.

Until something is done, nothing happens. This will continue to happen until something is done.

This isn’t over until the client retract and apologize.

According to Cribking1, Kobocity which I represent is complicit in this matter and we won’t take it lightly until the allegation of fraud leveled against mountmoriah is retracted and full apology is tendered.

We are not sleeping on this though.

LastWeek1:
Hi, house,
Please, what do you think about this plan/drawing? I need a suggestion because this small structure is supposed to look out for the main building whenever no one is around.

[Maybe because of the area is very small]
I notice the porch face back, which is another compound, is this okay? Can this serve the purpose?

Lastly, What do you think about the store entrance?(The store is only useful for the people in the main building)

pls comment and recommend

Thanks

Where’s the plan?

beebah247:
This very recent one should not be made to die down without an apology if it turns out the client was wrong in accusing and labeling the contractor a fraud.

The Oga has made a promise to do the needful when his job has been completed. I believe he did all he did in temporary moment of madness and must have realized his error.

Let’s wait till the job is completed as he requested.

If nairaland can’t stop the madness, I can.

Ibibioson:
This was last year, about 6/7 months ago. I paid him 3.1m to supply roofing materials to my site. All I got from him was excuses. Hsl-broker never came back here to dispute my claims. I'm happy N3xt was able to step in and got everything sorted out for this client.

He blamed it on family situation. After he settled me, I even promised to help him get things right if he wants to do a legit business and could even engage him again in the future. I believe in second chances if one is remorseful.

How did I know mount moriah is hsl-broker? The name and GTBank account number the client posted gave it away.

If he has truly turned a new leaf, I encourage others to patronize him, now that there's someone like n3xt who is willing to step in whenever there's an issue. I'll feel comfortable doing business with someone from kobocity. The only thing nairaland did was to banned him after I posted the screenshot of the transactions/chats.

Thanks for sharing this with us and especially the bolded part.

When I asked him if he’s the same person as hsl-broker, there was a long pause then he told me “I’m not hsl-broker but hsl-broker taught me all I knew.”

Let me share this short story before I continue. In 2015 or thereabout, I paid some huge amount of money to someone (not here) to purchase a 2011 Venza. He sent me all the necessary docs on the car, I even nearly engage someone here to handle the clearing. In Barrister Mike’s voice “Ase pe everything is lori-iro” There was no vehicle in the vessel he told me and all he gave me were fake docs.

When I got to know about this issue, I got mad but my paddy don japaxit. He later called me and explained his situation to me. I told him “I understand there’s no way I could have given you that huge amount of money to help you solve your problem but I thank you that you hinted me not to proceed with the clearing of the vehicle. How you wan take pay me back?”

To cut the long story short, we are still good friends till date and he has served me so well in situation where I never believed I could get help.

To err is human, to forgive is divine. I posted something 2 days ago that a lot of people don’t like bringing issues like this to me because they knew I’ll always sue for peace - a win-win for both parties.

The best thing we can do for ourselves is to help each other become better as a result of our coming together on this platform and not to beat our chest that I’ve succeeded in pulling down another man.

I’ll do all I can to build a system that protects anyone who transact on my platform. As at the time I was tracking @mountmoriah, there were 4 other people about 1km near him doing the same.
My deep appreciation goes to the wonderful collaborators on the kobocity project. You’re such a wonderful ally. Our best is yet to come.

As for nairaland admin, mods and their leadership styles, I’d simply encourage them to have a heart to care. Everything no be money.

Some are only lawyer (no be typo) to their need of you.

n3xt:
Update:

Progress picture from @Cribking1 site. Pics sent as at 2:57pm but it came while man was sleeping.

Update:

The team has closed for today. They’ll round up the job tomorrow.

Nero2424:
My brother I don't think there is any way you can penalize someone giving you a contract, even if you ban him he will get someone here or elsewhere.

The guys at kobocity are working on something. I really love those guys.

beebah247:
Is there something that can be done about people coming here hastily and baselessly to accuse people of fraud?

A lot can be done but definitely not here - anything goes here and a lot of things that happen here defies logic - but on a platform where I have full authority to act and where everyone is treated with respect.

n3xt:
Update:

The client has just confirmed to me that he’s on the site and the goods has been delivered and work ongoing.

Update:

Progress picture from @Cribking1 site. Pics sent as at 2:57pm but it came while man was sleeping.

bixton:
Just so curious.....
Is there some form of penalty if this case is not one of fraud as been claimed by the client?

E just be like say some people like to shout thief, fraud, etc, etc,.,

We are not sleeping over this but before we do anything we need to perfect all the lose ends - educate the forum users (owner builders, contractors, suppliers etc) on how to handle transactions on kobocity.com; how to report issues and how we resolve issues.

bixton:
Even if the FBI, CIA, Interpol verifies someone ,if that individual wants to deal fraudulently there's nothing that can be done.

How many supplier here will accept POD for goods worth over #1.5M

Bros you get time though.

It's always worthless sort of person who puts himself out in order to get somebody else worked up.

The first to complain are those who have nothing to offer. Such people always leave the message to attack the messenger.

We simply ignore them.

registerin:
@mountmoriah is not a scammer or a frudaster, I have engage him twices now for my project.

First he supplied the woods I used to roof my house, then my roofing sheets, and he was also the one that did my covering with his roofers, and I can boldly says that am proud of his timing and fast delivery, am also planning to engage him in any other aspect he's capable of doing for me on my project.

Let us always try to be patient sometimes, before we pass judgement that can ruin someone's career or their businesses.

Thanks for coming back to rectify the damages that had been done.

Well done

Thanks for sharing with us. We will add this to his page on kobocity.com

Badgers14:
I move not because I don't have mb or my battery is low, this is weekend and I do have time for Yada Yada, back and forth posting but admire his tenacity and effort to fix this issue.
I would have preferred this all happened in kobocity not here in nairaland. He deserved the accolades.

Moving forward, I got this from the kobocity team on suppliers verification. What do you think about this move?

Yay or Nay?

The team suggested that verified suppliers must include an upload of bank verified and stamped BVN (except if the larger community objects to this) in the document submitted to us for verification.

The team also suggested that for transparency, we should require anyone verified to create a thread on kobocity and gives updates on all transactions gotten through the platform, while not revealing private information of clients.