₦airaland Forum

davodyguy:
The ₦8500 comprises what?

Board only.

6k as at the last time you made enquiries.

davodyguy:
I think someone already did the analysis and said the Gypsum board is more expensive.

I don't mind exploring.

It's costing me ₦1,300,000 and I'll love alternative, which I can then screed

Haha! I started exploring options since 2013. I didn’t allow people to convince me otherwise.

Plasterboard (whether you call it fake or cheap abi na Chinese) was used on my projects and we’ve not had any issues.

Current price at Omega is N8,500

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Pics - Plasterboard installation inside NextHome H52 (Dec 2014)

mobileboy:
We might be tempted to blame distributors and middlemen for increase in price of cement but from my own point I disagree (my personal opinion)

The quantity supplied and quantity demanded are no longer in tandem hence middlemen tends to sell for highest bidder

Very valid!

Prices went to 3100 at my end because an Indian company doing some massive construction nearby is ready to buy at any price.

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Within the month of November alone, I sold over 12 trucks while my cement supplier could hardly get 1 truck to sell.

EgunMogaji2:
I don’t hire from this platform as a matter of educated personal preference and policy but I do participate in giving positive feedbacks, as well as negative ones.

Whats new here that we haven’t talked about already that the price hike is from the distributors? What’s happening is not shocking as its part of the overall Nigerian experience. We just went through this with hand sanitizers and face masks.

There is a fine line between processing the experience to make it manageable and reliving the moment by talking through the problem - who to blame, who’s at fault and who bear the brunt.

The psychological equivalent of this is scratching a mosquito bite. If we don’t stop scratching and find a way (system) to prevent further bites, it is going to continue to itch and we may eventually become infected.

So in essence, talking through the problem isn’t bad neither is knowing who’s right or what went wrong but what isn’t useful is if we keep reliving the trauma without developing systems to protect ourselves.

Consumer protection is zero in Nigeria. Most businessmen understands this dynamics, hence the hike in prices of commodities in Nigeria.

omanzo02:
Yes......, because disruption, unlawful hike, unfair competition are not tolerated and is dealt with accordingly.

I wish those who call out artisans and dishonest contractors on this platform will rise up in time like this though.



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The situation is already looking like President Buhari’s selective anti-corruption drive.

omanzo02:
That's what you get when a country have no serious control measures to check hoarding, racketing and unlawful price hike, in saner climes the police must have sealed the shops/deport up by now, charged them before a judge, make them a national news and loose their licence to operate for life.

...in saner clime.

Cement is still 2450 direct from factory. The inflation was from distributors.

How do I know?

In my project site, cement for all civil works is still 2450 per bag but the cement sold to block makers is now 3150 per bag.

Same Site, Same Product, Different Pricing.

dbshaywhy:
This is exactly why I have no interest in Aluminum casement windows... Very dreadful

When I saw uPVC windows, I marveled. But very expensive!

EgunMogaji2:
I know, right?

Baba, you might want to check out (research) Corn Husk Ash as an alternative to Ordinary Portland Cement for non-structural applications.

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Won’t they think we are poor?

omanzo02:
Probably in Lagos, not nationwide.

Yes.

omanzo02:
I saw different designs and colours of aluminium longspan, that creates a SIMPLE but outstanding rooftops view, I notice the ceiling are mostly insulated gyproc/plasterboard.
I was hoping insulated aluminium longspan should be available in Nigeria by now, it's more suitable for our weather, we have them on one of our warehouse, they are heat and cold proof ( cool in the summer and warm in the winter)

Whatever you want is here in Nigeria and reasonably priced.

I was going to use same for NextHome20 (my new office block). I also intend to do exposed joist ceiling cutting off the need for the conventional POP Ceiling.

diordaves:
We don't overbuild.

Down to the early 90s we built properly. Bang from the 2000s we underbuild now.

Low foundations

Foundations without german floor (DPC)

Iron and rubbish Asian doors everywhere

PVC ceilings (Dear Lord) everywhere

Inadequate columns and beams, some without lintel

Low mix ratio resulting in poor quality blocks everywhere.

Fake roofing sheets everywhere

You previously talked about your home gate with a certain requirement of ground beam. Is that overbuilding? Some said yes on this forum.

Do you more time? I can still go on and on if you do.

We don't overbuild. On the contrary, we underbuild for the most part, poor quality homes.

Of course, using 20+ bags of cement for gate installation is an overkill but by my design there are certain part of my build that must be quality upfront (the public area).

omanzo02:
Exactly, their bungalows are modest, not over exaggerated and don't need excessive space to site them, those on big lands are dawn with beautiful greens......my next builds will be bungalows.
That's where I took more interest in aluminium longspan.

By their fruit you shall know them. I love Aussie’s bungalow designs. I have a great collection of their modern bungalows by Sater Designs

davodyguy:
The act of or tendency to cheat, can be found in anyone, irrespective of race or colour.

I have been cheated by a Cab driver in UAE (Dubai) who comes from Pakistan to hustle in Dubai. He took us from our Hotel (Akas Inn) from Sharaf DG/Al Bashir and cheated with trip counting, making us pay more.

A bus driver who's a female, cheated us also in Auckland New Zealand, cause we had no idea of their currency. In come countries, they still use coins. Hence you may not really understand.

We're talking about Nigerians being cheats because we live here.

It's same way Donald Trump's crying that he has been cheated, because he believes there are crooks in America. After all, Trump himself cheated the American system in 2017 by paying less tax.

Criminals everywhere.

My grandpa who died 76 years ago told my dad “Mosquito is not an Egba word. There is mosquito in Buckingham Palace, hence the word mosquito.”

hollaryincar:
Ok

Thank you.

EgunMogaji2:
We’re saying the same thing.

You see you took care and hit the right artisan. As far as materials I think we overbuild in Nigeria.

One of us here, I forgot his name wanted to do a roof with just solar panels. I told him it wouldn’t work and gave him other options instead of just putting the solar panels on wood rafters without aluminum.

It ended in disaster that’s what I’m talking about.

So I don’t scrimp on foundation or roof. My roofs here are .45 long span.

We overbuild.

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But won’t they think we are poor?

demanuel:
Based in Lagos. Discipline is Accounting. Currently I freelance and manage inventory (stocktaking) for businesses.
No problem. Thanks.

Information well received. Let’s connect +234.80.234.29.122

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Your field of specialization is one that people tend to overlook in this part of the world and I know how important it is.

That’s why I cry less about cheaters because I knew once you have the right system in place, you can manage any situation.

EgunMogaji2:
When roofs fail it becomes a disaster. Everything could be destroyed.

POP
Furniture
Electronics
Electrical

I agree completely.

However, in one of my personal projects, I went for the lowest gauge in the market and till date there has not been any sign of visible defect or leakage.

I found out that the quality of job done by roof installers matters more than the quality of the sheets installed.

hollaryincar:
Good day People,

I have a small kobo kobo bungalow project somewhere around Gudugba, Ifo. I need an "Engineer" to handle the project, I don't seem to be satisfied with the quality of work done on the site.

Work is still at foundation level

My Ogas in the house, I need recommendations, you can also send a message or quote me if you can handle the project

I have 2 plots of land (facing the expressway) around that area for sale. Just in case you have friends still interested in acquiring land around that area.

MrOkenwa:

You remind me of a senior colleague and my life-coaching teacher back then in osuth, shagamu. Late Gbenga Kuponiyi.

Learning is what most adults will do for a living in the 21st century.

Grow through what you go through.

michlins:
you don't understand subject of discussion. Slats will be pipe. Framing the gate or any other one should be angle bars. Use angle bars to frame the gate especially those areas that goes to the wall and floor because they are most exposed to rusting. You can use pipes anywhere else

Issokay bro!

I’ve always avoided using objects with sharp edge and projections in residential projects for safety (especially for kids) and to prevent rust/corrosion from water ponding on the surfaces.

Now I’ve learnt new thing. Thanks for sharing once again.

EgunMogaji2:
I hear you about saving money.

Let’s do it on less critical areas like windows.

Foundation and roof are two things that I never mess with.

Success will be ours.

Roof? Why Baba if I may ask?

demanuel:
Hello Sir,
Are you having cases of theft or pilfirage of items in your store?
I can help supervise whenever new supplies are brought in, if you need someone in that regard.

By the way, where are you based? What’s your major discipline?

I have a lot of people in various locations handling stuffs for me though. So, there’s tendency we do stuffs together in not-too-distant future.

zuraking:
Let's learn things and make this thread serve it's purpose. Thank you

The art of being wise is knowing what to overlook.

When we find ourselves in uncomfortable situations, learn to stop letting the untrue or irrational thoughts take over. If we do, will find ourselves living entirely different lives.

It's just the Internet, man!” Rules really don't apply here no matter how we make it seem.

Respond to valuable suggestions/lessons and not to the tones of messages flying around.

That’s maturity!

#happybuilding

demanuel:
Hello Sir,
Are you having cases of theft or pilfirage of items in your store?
I can help supervise whenever new supplies are brought in, if you need someone in that regard.

Not at all. Thanks for offering to help

omanzo02:
I don't know if Nigeria government payment procedure and duration have changed, I have always avoided looking for work/contract with them.

These ones seems juicy though. It has always been for me.

Several years ago, I cut off internet supply in government house and governors’ office due to 1 month late payment.

My partner who was a retired Colonel back then told my manager to write “I was directed to...”
Militia boys may have their excesses, I think they’re the best thing for this country.

omanzo02:
What happened to FG executive order to get priority supplies? If you can get lorry load I bet this is your chance to hustle for them but get paying will be herculean task. Capital and profit will go into bribe for processing and signatures.

We went on break for a reason not because of cement or materials shortage. We’re resuming fully next Monday.

Cement for the main project is handled directly by the Ministry - no intermediary. I’m only coordinating cement supplies for all other service providers (block/brick makers, concreters, pavers, tradespeople, local suppliers etc).

omanzo02:
That's seem a safer clarification lol, my project has been on hold because of this damnn situation, I hope supply depot will be getting their supply too.

Even FG project is on hold.

I was shocked when I saw what’s left inside our store yesterday.

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The real issue is there are too many ongoing projects. People are seriously buying despite the price increase.

According to stats, Lafarge made more sales during this crisis. Even the Channel Partners.

Despite the scarcity, I’ve received over 13 trailers between Nov and Dec.

omanzo02:
Do you mean better days, weeks or months ahead? Even my supplier is not sure what assurance to give, the drama is getting funny.

We’ve not had cement from Ewekoro in weeks until today and the guys are still coming back tomorrow as we’re planning to kick off Phase 2 of our project next week.

That’s a good one if we are getting cement from Sagamu and Ewekoro plant.

All my guys got at least a truck load of cement between yesterday and this evening.

Lemme kuku say “Better Months Ahead ”

Thenext:
This stealing of a thing is in a typical Nigerian man(the one close to us are artisans), everybody are looking for shortcut to live big.
That’s why I stick to my Engineer, his service charge and that of his work craft( Bricklayer, carpenter, iron bender etc) is higher than what I see on nairaland but belief me my engineer will drop your last kobo for you. He will use best practice to reduce cost. So I don’t experience all this stealing of a thing. I sleep well when am home and I concentrate on my job at office while job is ongoing at my site.
This is the second house my Engineer is building for me and his honest and trust is second to none.

I love this - using best practice to reduce cost.

That’s value added service. “Best practice” and “cost reduction”

In another news, we were able to get trucks of cement from Ewekoro today.

Better days ahead.

One4me:
So, whats the big deal here?

There’s no big deal here except we are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

I’m not a car freak and I know my limit. Goodluck to those who do.

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