₦airaland Forum

jeffdaniel:
Good morning my wonderful people, am at the point of doing concrete parapet and roof carcass. The first question is, is it true that the 12ft(3.6m) hardwood planks are not the true length, that's what am using for my calculations but my carpenter is saying the lengths are shorten now adays, and what are the true lengths of hardwood planks in Lagos and surroundings.

To minimize cost, what's the best way getting the concrete parapet and roof carcass done, since am not on ground to get somethings done myself.


Thank you for your responses.

Have you considered using steel mold for your concrete parapet instead of woods?

For roof carcass, I’d suggest you buy from Lagos in order to minimize cost or get a reliable person to help you source from other state and deliver to your site. You can get standard wood in Lagos a little more expensive though.

Abbeyb1ack:
Like have spent alot on this project and its not even moving

I heard pple say you need a certain amount to get to roofing stage of a 3 bedroom


Bt av spent more dan that
The man supplying me blocks even had to call me that the material my engineer is using is lik a waste

That the project would hav gone far that the present stage

I don tired o

Change tack.

A lot of project managers only know how to buy, what to buy and where to buy. They don’t know how to save, what to save on and areas not to bat an eyelid.

I’m sorry to say this but “Smart people rent formwork. They don’t get tricked into buying planks because they can reuse it in other stages.”

saydfact:
THE 2 BOTH OF U .. THANK YOU

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rotecch77:
I like that your last statement bro
“ A well plastered wall”

If it’s regular then we will be talk of 2 bags of flex or more
1950*2 or *3

If it’s floor then it’s no go area ... higher cost

”If it’s abnormal German Floor...”

However, if it’s a well laid floor supervised by Nairaland Engineer Egunmogaji2 to international standard, Supafix is far more cheaper to use than cement.


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Lafarge is also planning to introduce some new product into the market (engineered plaster sand, mortar, pre-mixed concrete etc).

Things are getting better.

Las las, we go dey alright.

rotecch77:
I understand you clearly bro, as I said I’m not here to markdown the product at all.

The purpose is to see how we can make some impossibility to possible by reducing cost drastically without much time wasted.
Bcs time is money too.
They are many product before lafarge and many will still come again.
But the bottom line is it’s not cheaper to use.
More so it’s best practice to lay tiles with sand, not just local practice.
It’s in building tech text book and I practice it in sch then which was supervised by the lecturer.
With mixture ratio of 1:3

So it’s not only Nigeria method as you stated.
But new innovation is what we lack here In Nigeria, and it’s simple to apply this superflex
But it not cheaper to OPC cement according to the percentage of structure in Nigeria

40kg of superflex is 4K plus
50kg of cement is 3k plus
Sand 50kg N300

By my understanding, we are only paying more for tiling because of shabby flooring job done by our builders. If it’s done right, you don’t have to spend fortune to lay tiles.

4 x 20kg bag of Supafix (sold at a little less than 8,000) will cover a standard bathroom wall of 4 x 10ft (provided you have a straight wall).

I’m not sure my tiler has ever asked me to bring just 3 bags of cement to do tiling of a 4 x 10 bathroom.

By default, our mind has been pre-configured to believe that tiling requires a lot of cement. In fact, I do tell my clients tiling is the most expensive stage in building.

zuraking:
okay. Make I reason am if it's more economical than normal cement.

If you’re buying 50kg Elephant Cement which can cover 4sqm at 3,000 and you’re buying 20kg Supafix Tile Adhesive which covers 5sqm at 1,950, which one do you think is cheaper?

Use a well plastered bathroom wall as a case study

#supafix update

You do not need cement mortar or o level I never surface when using Supafix. You can use the adhesive to level out uneven surface a day before installing your tiles.

We also tried this during the demonstration.


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I forgot to take picture of that part.

rotecch77:
There product is nice.
But I’m not saying this to devalue there product but to elaborate The process more to the end users.
In all honesty the superflex can’t save you money to normal OPC cement.

Bcs 95pec structure in Nigeria are not well leveled both wall and floor
All of them required leveling both wall and floor

The only area you can get good leveling is when you are tiling on EXISTING TILES or PLYWOOD.
These surface will only required tiny thickness of superflex like 1-3mm, with this you can get 5m area covered with 1 bag of superflex 20kg.

But in all others wall you will need about 8-12mm thickness to get some of this wall to normal level
What does this mean: very simple and the answer is you will need more superflex to achieve this.
This is where you get it NOT cheaper to use.

But in terms of marble work on top of kitchen casted slab, or wall marble work go for it bcs of its nature(gummy).

But if you can straighten your wall or floor before application of the superflex you are good to go.
But remember you are using normal cement and sand to do this which is another cost also.

In conclusion it’s not cheaper to use here in Nigeria in term of saving cost.

This is my practical experience on it for some years back.

You can try your
Not bibeli

Baba, whether you have leveled floor or not, you cannot use only cement to install tiles on floors. You’ll still need some sand

That’s a negative on OPC.

Moreso, demanding straight walls and leveled floors from our contractors shouldn’t be a rocket science if it can be achieved elsewhere.

Finally, it’s only here we use OPC to install tiles. By standard, tiles installation are done with adhesive. Am I right or wrong?

That 1m people are doing it wrong doesn’t make it right.

Even if the wall is terrible, is it that most of our tilers don’t know about backer boards. These stuffs and solutions are out there for years. I think we are just stuck with conventional approach.


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In another news, I just picked up 12 bags for a 30sqm job. I’d share pictures later.

omanzo02:
In another news, don't forget to ask about what's happening to critical cement issues on behalf of nairaland and when to expect stability.

We asked and we were told the situation will normalize soon. I think demand for cement only went higher post-covid and it was a big surprise to the Channel Partners (CP)

Supafix will solve one part of the problem and it’s more economical.

The only issue is homeowners/developers need to demand more quality job from builders/engineers alike. Straight walls and flat slabs

zuraking:
I need clarification on this supafix.

Can I use it for floor tiles without screeding with sharp sand and cement after German floor?

Can we use it for tiles ONLY or it has other usage?

50 bags minimum order is for people building duplex or massive 4-5 bedroom bungalow na if 1 bag will cover 5sqm. what about we the Kobo Bobo small hut owners?

It is for tiles ONLY (indoor application and swimming pools).
It’ll work for external application but it is not recommended. You can only use C2 class for external tiles (high rise buildings).

Let me know the quantity you want. We can always work it out.

#metoo I’m a member of small hut owner’s association.

If you need cement for your tiles work, please get in touch on how to get Supafix for your project.

It’s far cheaper and more reliable!

You can also request for demo.

Supafix - Rock Solid. When the mix is right, it won’t fall off your trowel.

twinskenny:
This is good but you have to be a professional to use this.. cause any mistake you won’t be able to remove the tiles easily

Yes! But it’s game changer as you don’t need sharp sand when you have a leveled floor.

You can also do tiles on tiles.

Promo Price #2100 #1950 per bag (Today Only)

20kg Bag of Supafix Tile Adhesive will cover 5sqm

50kg Bag of Regular Cement will cover 4sqm (including sand used for screeding)


Minimum order is 50 bags. (free delivery this weekend only)

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If your blockwall is straight, you don’t need to plaster your wall before applying the Supafix adhesive.

#supafix update

With Supafix, you can hardly remove the tiles 1 min after installation.

European standard of adhesive

C0
C1
C2

C0 and C1 are for internal use only. C2 is for external use. Lafarge C02 will be ready by next year.

Within 1 hour after applying the adhesive you have to break the tiles.

You can start tiling from up down. It won’t slide or move when installed.

megacontrol:
You completely missed the point, but issokay #WeMove

Baba #WeMove

#Supafix Update

Supafix is a C1 grade of adhesive.

Gum seller in the local market just call it gum not adhesive. They don’t tell you whether it is C1 or C2 class of adhesive.


Add 4 liters of water to the 20kg cement.

Straight wall will cover minimum of 5sqm (more cheaper and stronger than regular cement)

You don’t need to soak you tiles in water. It sticks in 1 hour.

If you’re a DIYer, you may not need a tiler.

In other news, we are currently at Lafarge’s Supafix product demonstration and launch.

If you’re not using Supafix tiles adhesive for your tiles installation, you’re not doing it right


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Please drop your questions if you’d like to know more about the product.

gordonbarrett:
Very interesting. I intend to install hanging pergola soon and this will be a very good choice of wood. How much does it go for?

I’ll be right back on this. We don’t have it in large quantity right now.

gordonbarrett:
Hope you will adequately treat the wood against the elements?

Those woods are actually treated woods. They’re IPPC heat and methyl bromide treated woods.

I only use IPPC compliant woods for projects like this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISPM_15

EgunMogaji2:
Shipping container wood abi?

Yes and woods from packing case. You can order from me o at shikini money.

To survive in Nigeria, one must have ideas and not just money.

Wood Projects // Ideas

EgunMogaji2:
Yeah. There’s no need to stay with the mundane anymore when good designs liter the web.

Next project are several metal bench seats. Picking up the metal stocks tomorrow.

LEGGO.

Nigeria’s Construction Sector will be liberated by fire by force

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Stock woods for my concrete bench project.

EgunMogaji2:
And the poison has to miraculously land in their food plate cause mine have been trained not to eat except from their Individual food plates.

My prayer is that it’s not my house with two raging Dobermans is where they want.

One of my artisans poisoned my Caucasian few years ago.

true2home:
Minimalist by Birth...IJEBU...lmao

Ijebu people everywhere

true2home:
Welcome to the "See Through" geng!!! E
ile Aye yii o lee ...KEEP IT SIMPLE

Are you a minimalist or generalist?

KIDfurniture:
All the roofers na ole including money 121 but that's his own hustle.. they must add extras. He is just an agent na he must make profits...God bless nairaland.

You fall hand bro!

You can as well call me a thief/agent na for the following reasons:

- owning a construction company without carrying hammer
- owning a design firm without sitting down to draw plans everyday
- owning concrete mixers, poker vibrators without carrying concrete
- owning dump truck without visiting quarry
- owning formwork without doing carpentary work.
- owning block/paving stone industries without mixing sand

I’m still at loss as to why we resort to name calling instead of finding solution to the various issues rocking naija’s business space.

Instead of attacking people up and down, deal with reputable roofing company that can be sued if any issue arise. How’s that a problem for God’s sake?

EgunMogaji2:
I sold mine on Twitter.

I can’t wait to see your new design.

Twitter? That’s nice!

My new design? Me that I’m confused already. It’d be something in between ancient and modern.

I’m 100% certain it’d be horizontal slat + wrought iron design. I intend to lower the fence too.

Badgers14:
Oga mi, what's the difference between a seat and a bench?

One is a seat while the other is a bench.

EgunMogaji2:
Emi nko? I’m the original copycatter

I’ll do it too.


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My Gate For Sale.

Interested persons should dm for more details.

Gate only 200k

Gate with Centurion Automatic Gate Opener - 400k (working perfectly, buy and customize your own remote N10k pere)

Additional features
- 5m gear rack installed
- Centurion gate roller installed

omanzo02:
They comes in varieties depending where u want to mount them, on the ground, walls(for small space or garden), suspended and collapsible etc. Very useful on a chill sit out day and hangout with pals

Lovely. Thanks for sharing

EgunMogaji2:
Mission accomplished.

Nice.

If I change my gate after seeing your design, does it mean I’m a copycat?