₦airaland Forum

I think it is now fair to say reading this write up from someone like Babachir and seeing the massive reactions from northern Christains(esp APC members) and other people around the country, that a very significant shift have happened with APC regarding this election.

It is clear that this was not just a national error done by a desperate APC but a political error of gagantum scale. APC has lost the Middle belt and one may now ask where it hopes to get the huge votes needed to win the Presidential and other elective positions next year?

It cannot be the Upper North(cos Kwankwaso and Atiku will be sharing the votes with him there). It cannot be the SW, cos Obi and Atiku will be sharing votes there with him. And he cant now talk about the SS and SE with this choice!!

The calculations upon which this short sighted decision was made can now be seen to be very faulty and ill-thought out.

I wish him well

otipoju:
IGR is a fancy word for taxes .

Hmm....lolz

Correct

mfm04622:
How many times do you want to be told OBJ doesn't have any social media account?

OBJ is actually campaigning for Obi on the groujd, massively.

He is doing serious ground work for him

FalseProphet1:
News that gladdens the heart.

I see Peter Obi winning kaduna State.

This I have seen.

I have said tgis b4 that this is possible

Good!!!

The entire Southern and Middle belt indigenous groups should officially endorse Obi fast: PANDELF(Niger delta), Afenifere(Yorubas), Middle belt and Ohaneze(Igbos).

And they must then MOBILIZE!!!

Ohaneze for instance is a very powerful organisation that have in recent years pulled way below its real reach: it has all town unions and market unions in the south east and other Igbo speaking areas of the SS(as well as Igbos living anywhere in Nigeria and disapora) as part of its structure. Those, with the church, are the greatest strutures in the SE.

fiizznation:
Whatever that needs to be done in order to stop that corrupt kleptomaniac from becoming the president of Nigeria is a welcome development.

A thug like tinubu has no business with Nigeria presidency.

Same thing with his fellow brother kleptomanaic, Atiku.

Enwhen:
Good...I have marked ur monicker ...when campaign start and after election, I will mention u...

The 25% northern christains is gone already for APC, join with the Southern christians , ATiku is our next president , let him just get 50% from the north , many of u would be shocked

Which Atiku is your President?

Where is Atiku going to get votes from in the south, esp as northern votes will be shared massively?

It is like you do not know what is going on currently.

Ibkhaleel01:
WE the North ARE QUIET BUT NOT DUMB
In the second Republic, the late Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe, the presidential candidate of NPP, picked a northern Christian, Prof. Ishaya Audu as his running mate, thereby flying a Christian-Christian ticket. However, the presidential candidate of UPN, the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo, went a notch higher by flying not only a Christian-
Christian ticket, but also a southern-southern one, when he picked, as his running mate and Igbo man, the late Chief Umeadi. In both instances, however, Muslims in Nigeria did not abuse anyone nor threatened thunder and brimstones. Instead, they chose
from the array of the presidential tickets the one which they felt could protect their interests- NPN which flew a Muslim- Christian ticket.
wonder what is so difficult for those who
are aggrieved or outraged by Tinubu's
audacity, in borrowing a leaf from the
reaction of the Muslims in 1979 when the precedent was set.

Exactly.

Christians and even Muslims of good conscience would also now vote for a balanced ticket that "protects their interests", and it wouldnt be an APC Muslim-muslim ticket.

That is what they are saying and going to do, just as upper northerners did with Shagari in 1979(according to you).

Why are you now shouting??

SU50:
1. Don't we have the NIWA for that? I think it has the mandate of mantaining safety of lives on all inland water ways and also to improve commercial activities that happen along such water ways, why would any govt. need a water bill to achieve what it already has?

2. What has inland water ways got to do with Riga? As we speak, Ruga is being implemented in some states as pilot project while more states are expected to follow suit later.

Constructive arguments please.

NIWA does not have control over the waterways or esp the lands close to it. It only manages it.
Control over land in Nigeria belong to the people, held in trust by the STATE Govts. This is the constitution.

Also, one of the reasons adduced for the FG wanting to take control of the banks of the waterways in the country (10km on either side) is to use some of it for cattles.

Just informing you. Will not do back and forth with you

Let the account be set up fast, as long as it from Obi himself i.e approved by him and his campaign.

Na Obi go tire for the money wey people go donate. He will have to close it himself.

I dont think i will ever be happy to donate to such a cause as this. I will be doing it for my life and country Happily

Interesting .... Love what he said

Heard that the Obi movement is massive in Plateau and Benue presently. The guy fit just dey align

But wait o, how do these Mods take topics to FP now adays?

@seun @lalastilala @mynd44

AwaLokan:
The Chairman of Borno State, Christians Association (CAN), Bishop Mohammed Naga has commended the selection of former governor of the state, Senator Kashim Shettima as the Vice Presidential candidate of the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) in the forthcoming 2023 Election.

The selection of Shettima, a Muslim from the North East to run on the presidential ticket of the APC with another Muslim, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu from the South West has been greeted with mixed reactions.

This would be the first time a major party would follow the footstep of Social Democratic Party’s Muslim/Muslim ticket of MKO Abiola/Babagana Kingibe which was the election the 1993 Presidential election that was notoriously annulled by the military.

Bishop Naga, in a statement on Monday said the Christian community in Borno State have never had a better deal than under Shettima who was at the helm in the state between 2011 and 2019.

Naga, who described Shettima as a compassionate leader, said: “My brothers, those who are not from Borno State may not know, but you and I know better. In the history of Borno State, there is no Governor that has been fair to the Christian Community in this State as much as Governor Kashim Shettima. I am saying this in the presence of God Almighty and this is nothing but the truth. Governor Shettima, in the history of Borno, is the only Governor that has sponsored highest number of Christian Pilgrims every year since 2011.

“I am speaking boldly without fear or favour because as CAN Chairman I do not receive salary or kobo from Government or any institution, but the facts need to be told. This Governor has shown compassion to the Christian Community.”

He added that: “For example, when Gwoza people were driven from their ancestral homes, they fled to Maiduguri, and the Governor personally came to CAN Centre in Jerusalem ward two times in June and July 2014. He gave N10 million for their upkeep at first instance, but the victims were not many. By the end of October 2014, the IDPs from Gwoza increased to 42,000 in that camp alone. Governor Shettima came again and gave another N10 million. He also gave additional N5 million for Christians from Borno who fled to Cameroon to be returned home.

“He gave another N5 million for non-indigenes who fled to Cameroon to come back to Nigeria.”

Naga said: “The Governor even directed the Borno State Emergency Management Agency, SEMA to be supplying food directly to the IDPs under the Christian leadership. In fact, the Governor insisted that he wanted Christian IDPs to stay together with their Muslim counterparts in various designated IDP camps here in Maiduguri but we the leaders felt it wise to separate Christian IDP’S to avoid frictions between displaced persons dealing with trauma.”

The clergyman said: “Sincerely speaking as a Christian and a preacher, absolutely I have nothing to fear about Asiwaju’s picking a Muslim as his running mate, because he’s not a religious bigot and I’m happy he has made his mind known to the public in the person of his preferred running mate.

He added that: “Seeing another Presidential candidate applauding him is a plus for him and supporters of Asiwaju.
Congratulations to the awaiting president and vice president.”

Michael Olugbode in Maiduguri

https://www.arise.tv/borno-can-applauds-selection-of-shettima-as-tinubus-running-mate/amp/

Mynd44 Lalasticlala Seun

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Addme:
Chai....
Even Obi himself can't say this. You guys should be realistic at least sometimes. You should stop building castle in the air.

This is not building castles of any kind, imaginary or real.

Peter Obi will win Lagos next year. You can bookmark it

Moreover, maybe you havent heard that there are 3 Muslim candidates and 1 Christain candidate in this election.

By the way, the choice by Tinubu was religious. Tinubu chose the Muslim VP candidate cos he believed that upper northerners would not vote for a ticket with a Christain VP. That is a religious choice.

It is both silllly and hypocritical for you or anyone to gaslight others who want to react to that religion choice, esp if they have legitimate fears due to current happenings.

PS: Plzz dont call competence where Tinubu and esp Shetima is. We are no babies you know

"Online people".....

Moh247:
Lol

Borno State and Lagos State has the most PVC after Kano

Can Datti deliver Kaduna for loser party

Kindly deeply refrect on this

Yes, Peter Obi may win Kaduna if he does his home work well.

The about 40% Kaduna christain/minority vote is up for the taken.

Whilst the remaining 60% will be fought for by Tinubu, Atiku and a rampaging Kwankwaso. Obi may even also take a little from this sef.

Except smtin really significant happens with his canpaign, Obi will win Lagos. I have called this a long time ago

And what if this happens? Who is afraid of this?

Moreover, maybe you havent heard that there are 3 Muslim candidates and 1 Christain candidate in this election.

By the way, the choice by Tinubu was religious. Tinubu chose the Muslim VP candidate cos he believed that upper northerners would not vote for a ticket with a Christain VP. That is a religious choice.

It is both silllly and hypocritical for you or anyone to gaslight others who want to react to that religion choice, esp if they have legitimate fears due to current happenings.

PS: Plzz dont call competence where Tinubu and esp Shetima is. We are no babies you know

Abdul4trust1:
were you expecting Tinubu to pick a Christian running mate? Knowing fully well that northern Muslim will not vote for him.
If Tinubu was a religion bigot, he wouldn't have marry a Christian wife.
Picking shetima is just a strategy for winning election.
Religion shouldn't be a yardstick for voting a candidate in election except we want to be sentiment.
We have had christian-muslim ticket in OBJ and Atiku, Muslims-christian Ticket in Yar'adua and Jonathan, christian-muslim ticket in Jonathan and Sambo and Buhari and Osinbajo.
What have we achieved?

Exactly, Tinubu not picking a christain VP cos upper Muslim northerners would noy vote for a fellow christain VP is a RELIGIOUS choice.

If other persons returns the favour esp if current happenings heightens their legitimate fears, it is very hypocritical of you to try to gaslight them.

End

Abdul4trust1:
what if Muslims decided to vote for a Muslim-Muslim ticket while Christians vote Muslim-christian ticket, who will win eventually? Campaign should be issue-based. Let's shun religion and ethnic sentiment in politics.
Leadership should be based on ability not on religion.

And what if this happens? Who is afraid of this?

Moreover, maybe you havent heard that there are 3 Muslim candidates and 1 Christain candidate in this election.

By the way, the choice by Tinubu was religious. Tinubu chose the Muslim VP candidate cos he believed that upper northerners would not vote for a ticket with a Christain VP. That is a religious choice.

It is both silllly and hypocritical for you or anyone to gaslight others who want to react to that religion choice, esp if they have legitimate fears due to current happenings.

PS: Plzz dont call competence where Tinubu and esp Shetima is. We are no babies you know

Mide1data:
CAN rejected it, how can a member support it I don't believe this news.

This is a 2017 news Bros

Useless propaganda from the usual suspects: Tinubu urchins

garfield1:
They will still rig it.other parties can't to shit

Ok

garfield1:
Yes,those votes were real.the voters were carried from Maiduguri to all the LGAs.it will still come

Nope ..They are not real.

You cannot possibly "carry" almost a million voters to a single location in tgus country. Use your head plzz.

Borno and Yobe were massively rigged in 2019. Everyone knows that. The APC chaps in those 2 states, used the boko haram situation to massively rig

The job of other parties this time around is to reduce it significantly

casualobserver:
2019 elections Borno state:

Apc 837,000
PDP 71,000

2015 (during Boko Haram occupation)

APC 473,000
PDP 25,000

In 2019, Borno alone wiped out PDP’s gains in 3 states of Anambra, Abia and Evonyi!!!


Nairalanders should make an effort to look at the data before they talk. When they say, Google is your friend, it’s for your own good!
This is why they call Nigerian youth lazy!!!

And you believe the votes from Borno and Yobe in 2019 were real?

Something that was rigged massively with incidence forms.

In 2023, no incidence form. The BVAS will be used.

Lets see how those magical figures will come from again.

By the way, there are a significant minorty of indigenous and christain peoples in Borno south. They are a fertile ground if you know what i mean

There is a section of the Muslim North (the extremist section) who have vowed to ensure that no non-Muslim will ever rule Nigeria again. So after Tinubu 8 yrs Presidency, another northerner Muslim will be President(since just like this year they would not allow a Northern Christain be President). That would be a straight 24 years of Muslims ruling Nigeria. And then it continues.


They said this in secret and in the open.

The Wickedness!!!

Tinubu, cos of his lifetime ambition to becoming President (same reason he brought a known diaster Buhari and supported him for 8 years!!) is aligning to this devilish plan.

This is not for the South. It is the personal ambition of ONE entitled person who would see Nigeria burn as long as he rules over it.

It is complete No- No.

Tflex01:
I can't say much about the North, but anybody that tell you that Muslim-Muslim ticket will reduce Tinubu's chances in the South West is just being clownish. Tinubu has the Christians on lockdown here.

No, he does not.

Tinubu almost lost the SW in 2019.

It will worst for him now cos the Church is alrwady speaking

brosom:
If Muslim-muslim ticket ever happens in this country then christians should forget about anything leadership as Nigeria is concerned.

The Muslim-muslim ticket is a test run, a kind of a case study to unleash there heneous aganda against Christian folks, but they want to use a southerner(agbado,corn,yam and cassava) as pet dog whom they do not even consider enough Muslim to achieve it for future references. Una think north no wise

Wake up people, it's a war going on.

Plz no agbado, cassava, corn and yam should come to my mention.

That is the key phrase: it is a test run.

Just look at Kaduna, APC is presenting another Muslim-muslim ticket again in the next election.

They tried it in 2019, and it worked(i.e they won the elections). This is what is going to continue in Kaduna(at least that is the plan). The very large christain indigenous population in Kaduna south have been finally "conquered".

Again, a test run.

What happened to Christains and southerner under Buhari would be a childs play

onumadu:
APC/PDP made a MAJOR mistake when they presented OLD CARGOES to fly their presidential flags.
Had they presented fresh faces, who knows what could have happened.
But now they have shown Nigerians that they will NEVER change.
So, in 2023 Nigerians will give them the boot!

Yap

jkpbestseries:
all Obi supporters should go all out and engage the community people, market men and women and recharge card sellers, both old and young and preach Obi to them. In this manner obi will win

People are already doing that.

More will be done during the actual campaign

doctokwus:
Gathering momentum.
At every rally they should drum it in the ears of these people that they should not only get their voters cards,but come out that day to vote.
The mathematics of anyone winning the election is simple:13million would win anyone the election in a 3 horse race.
If the 5 Southeastern states can each give him 1million,that's 5million.
The entire SS can give him another 2.5-3million.
Lagos another 500k.Thats almost 8million.
5million from the entire North is challenging but not so impossible.It could even be less than 5million needed if Atiku does that well in the North to reduce the margin needed by a winner from 13m to say 11million.

You forgot the other parts of the SW, Bros

jkpbestseries:
my brother vice president is just a figure head......

Then let him chose a Christain VP figure head

Good one.....

Enugu people really need to increase their PVC registration too