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[size=14pt]Nigerian Muslims Welcome Court Ruling on Hijab[/size]http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?46139-Nigerian-Muslims-Welcome-Court-Ruling-on-Hijab |
[size=14pt]'Stop Ban On Religious Attires in Schools'.[/size]http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-14506341_ITM |
jadakiss213: i dint see the case u cited tho.but truth is no right is absolute.for instance,right to freedom of association is expressly enshrined in the constitution but to belong to a 'secret cult' is illegal in our laws.if every right was absolute,u cld as well publicly marry as as gays(u risk 14 yrs),walk naked or even smoke weed openly on the streets.In the constitution, where a right is given, the limitations to that right are also provided. For example, where the right to freedom of association is given, the limitation with regards to secret societies, etc are also spelled out. Ditto for freedom of movement and prison sentences. I'll try and repost the case. |
Movingcoil: how are u sure itz not harming others, how many times do they wash dat thing in a week? nice humour, but you can say the same about any piece of clothing, including school uniforms. |
Smh! Nigerians and conspiracy theories! 20 years ago some guy was trying to argue with me, insisting that Pope John Paul II was the anti-christ. At least today we are alive to see that what he was saying is absolute rubbish. |
jadakiss213: dude,u rightly mentioned in ur earlier post that the constitution supercedes any law or regulation.but may i remind u that no right is ABSOLUTE..The High Court of Lagos State has affirmed their right to wear hijab in school (see the case I previously cited). |
Movingcoil: don't public schools have rules and regulations? And is wearing hijab in nigerian constitution or sharia constitution? This is nigeria and not some arabic country like afganistan.The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (1999) grants them the right to practice and manifest their religion in public. The High Court of Lagos State has ruled that school children have the right to wear the hijab (as granted to them by the constitution) and no school rules can deprive them of their right. Now, are you saying the school is superior to the court and the constitution? |
May God bless him and grant him peace in retirement. |
On the question of whether people of other religions can wear their religious attires to school, I say why not? If your religion obliges you to wear a particular attire and it does not harm others neither is it against natural justice, you can wear it. If anybody prevents you from wearing it, take the person to court! |
Movingcoil: i was never a catholic, and am not planning to be but I went to a strict catholic missionary school if u know one of the schools ran by the marist brothers, since am a student there and to avoid being d odd man out and also to abide to the school rules and regulations, I prayed my chaplets, i held to my prayer books very tight, i had one of the best and expensive chaplets den dat was 350 naira but did it make me a catholic. Religion shouldn't be an element to disobey. Itz very simple, if u can't abide to it, find anoda school.That was a private school. In a public school everybody has rights as enshrined in the constitution and the school cannot violate your rights. Besides, the constitution states: 1. (1) This Constitution is supreme and its provisions shall have binding force on the authorities and persons throughout the Federal Republic of Nigeria. (2) The Federal Republic of Nigeria shall not be governed, nor shall any persons or group of persons take control of the Government of Nigeria or any part thereof, except in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution. (3) If any other law is inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution, this Constitution shall prevail, and that other law shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void. |
A school regulation cannot supersede the constitution of Nigeria. The constitution says: 1. (1) This Constitution is supreme and its provisions shall have binding force on the authorities and persons throughout the Federal Republic of Nigeria. (2) The Federal Republic of Nigeria shall not be governed, nor shall any persons or group of persons take control of the Government of Nigeria or any part thereof, except in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution. (3) If any other law is inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution, this Constitution shall prevail, and that other law shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void. |
Fussbot: this is definetely ansarudeen or attoheed nursery and primary school,nobody is stoping them since it's a muslim skul..bt we tlkin bout govt skul hereGovernment school that must act in accordance with the law. |
School kids wearing hijab
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More on section 10. It does not prevent citizens from publicly observing their religion. Rather, it prevents government from declaring that a particular religion as state religion and discriminating against people who do not believe in that religion. There are always prayers before state occasions in Nigeria. At the beginning of the judicial year, judges attend interdenominational christian and muslim services, etc. |
I pray pyguru doesn't ban me. Section 10 of the constitution of Nigeria 1999 prevents the government from declaring a state religion. But it doesn't make Nigeria a secular state (that notion is gotten from the american constitution). As the supreme court justice said, "Nigeria is a multi-religious state, not a secular state". 2) Section 38 (fundamental rights) gives citizens the right "to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance." The girls are manifestly observing their religion by wearing the hijab. 3) Section 42 prevents discrimination on the grounds of sex, religion, etc. You cannot allow some people to observe their religious injunctions and prevent others (subject to natural justice of course). Although all we are doing is academic because Justice Joseph Olubunmi Oyewole has ruled and that's the law today. |
abdulkayus: naptu, wat is ur problem na? Na MTEL line u dey use?Pele. I'm in transit. |
[size=14pt]Nigerian Muslims Welcome Court Ruling on Hijab[/size]http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?46139-Nigerian-Muslims-Welcome-Court-Ruling-on-Hijab |
[size=14pt]'Stop Ban On Religious Attires in Schools'.[/size]http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-14506341_ITM |
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[size=14pt]Lagos State Outlaws Flogging Of Students & Apprentices. - Education - Nairaland[/size] [quote author=DGI-PLUS]http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52597:bravo-to-lagos-over-childrens-rights&catid=67:you-report-lagos&Itemid=583 THANKS to the recent legislation passed in Lagos State by the administration of Governor Babatunde Raji Fashola SAN, the caning, beating or physical torture of school students, and of workplace apprentices, has been outlawed entirely, and declared both illegal and criminally culpable throughout that state. This recognition accorded the basic human rights of Lagos State’s children, by Governor Fashola, is, without question, one of the most constructive, progressive and profoundly humanitarian initiatives ever set forth into law by any Nigerian elected leader, since the nation’s 1960 independence. A simple internet search yields an abundance of thoroughly documented medical evidence, which unambiguously links the “punitive” beating of human beings to very severe and permanently debilitating injuries that range from blindness-inducing eye damage, to life-long paralysis of the legs, possible from SINGLE blunt-force cane impacts to the sciatic nerve, which runs close to the spine in the lower back, just beneath the skin. A research paper recently published by the Department of Ophthalmology, at the College of Health Sciences in Obafemi Awolowo University, Ife, cited a four-year study which concluded that an astonishing 30.3% of all eye injuries, presented at that hospital alone, by children aged between 5 and 15 years old, were DIRECTLY attributed to caning or whipping attacks that went horribly wrong, either in schools or at home. From a purely medical standpoint, there is NO safe area of the human body suitable for assault with a stick or other blunt-force weapon. Just as easily as a cane-strike to the lower back carries the potential to inflict lifetime lower limb paralysis on the victim, an errant stick, whip or belt-buckle impact to the wrist is equally liable to fracture, deform or displace the delicate wrist carpal bones that articulate within very tight tolerances, thus degrading forever the wrist’s flexibility and range of motion. Caning the hands of a student, such that permanent bone injury and loss of flexibility to the hands results, would effectively END whatever aspirations the victim may have held of becoming a surgeon later in life. The disastrous effects of losing one’s sight or mobility to a caning incident would be no less life-destroying, and require no elaboration. The injurious psychological effects, of exposing children to physical brutality in the name of discipline, can last a lifetime, but do also manifest behaviorally in the short term, as illustrated by the extremely high prevalence of school-yard bullying of juniors by senior students, whose own corporal punishment and physical torture by school authority figures imparts a misconception of normalcy to the use of violence as a tool to gain “respect” and the illusion of compliance. In nearby Ghana, by way of comparison, where all forms of corporal punishment have been outlawed for decades, school-yard bullying is virtually non-existent, while a very high level of orderliness and discipline is maintained in Ghanaian secondary schools, without any recourse to violence by school authorities. Unsurprisingly, the Ghanaian education system remains one of the best in Africa today, producing highly proficient graduates who are in great demand globally. Governor Fashola’s administration has boldly righted a festering injustice that has for decades been perpetrated against Nigerian children enrolled in schools nationwide, as well as in places of trade apprenticeship. Once again, Governor Fashola lives up to his billing as a leader far ahead of his time, now by endorsing the imperative to safeguard the BASIC human rights of Nigeria’s most important citizens – her children. For the betterment of Nigerian youth enrolled in schools and workplaces across the entire federation, the stellar, inspirational example just set by Governor Fashola is one well worthy of emulation, as it stands to swiftly transform Nigeria’s primary and secondary educational systems for the infinitely better. Striking any adult person with a stick or other weapon constitutes a violent criminal offence statutorily classified as Felony Assault and Battery, for which jail sentences can be imposed after a fair trial, under Nigerian law. On the unassailable premise that schools exist to prepare students for life as productive, civilized and peaceful citizens of law-abiding societies, that fundamental prohibition of violence against adults must be extended to govern all conduct towards children within schools and workplaces throughout any nation that embraces human rights for human beings of every age demographic.[/quote] |
Let's take a look at the laws (hope the anti-spam bot doesn't ban me). |
What does Nigerian and Lagos State law say about this? |
ypzilanti: This is an opportunity for Ogun State to provide a space for these traders, and tax them furiously to generate IGR. I would has asked the eastern governors to do this, but clearly, the market for the goods is Lagos.Good, now here's the meat of the matter, how do they collect the fines and what happens if people refuse to pay them? |
[quote author=9ja_I_hail]My friend just keep your mouth shut if you have no idea about what is going on in that market, have you asked when last did lawma show up for their duty, and when the traders complained what was the Govt action? If you care to listen, i will like to inform you that lagos state Govt is a fraud unless fashola dis-attached himself from Lord thiefunumbu. It sadden to see how many of you who are ignorant of what the issue was all about, but appear to be more commentator in this issue than those who knows the genesis of the problem. Please distant yourself from hypocrites else you will belittle yourself to dogs.[/quote]Ok, no points, just insults. Pass. |
[quote author=9ja_I_hail]Mr. Intellectual what is your suggestion/ideas ? close the danm market right? don't allow sentiment to cloud your sense of judgement.I would have ignored this campaign of pictures you have been doing since this issue started if you are eko ilo. Do you know Lagos state Govt appointed environmental sanitation agency call lawma who does collect money monthly from the traders without doing sanitation?[/quote]Does Lawma come into your house to clean it for you, or do you clean your house and give the rubbish to lawma to dispose? Is lawma responsible for the pipes beside the transformer, or are they responsible for the street traders? |
How can you be making 100 billion daily and still feel it's ok to do business in a place like this? The way things were at Ladipo Market. lukkie: I went to the market recently and took these pictures while waiting for the guy to source some parts. Note that this is just a small section of the market. |
[quote author=ODUA_NEGRO]dont you see this guy's name? sunny "bobo"! he must think he is preaching to bakassi boys over here.[/quote]Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha! This got me laughing. |
[quote author=Sunny_bobo]Thereis always dispute within the traders union. Most market union executives are there to fill their pockets. Just like you have the opposition ACN in Nigeria. The common feature is that they all have their eyes on the common purse. Their is so much corruption in most Nigerian organisations. Even church committee members sef dey jazz themselves.[/quote]Exactly! And this has led to the different factions using thugs to harass traders, extorting money from motorists (in the name of parking levy) and passersby and generally endangering anyone who is in that area. |
[quote author=Sunny_bobo]The Igbo guys collect dues and levies for the union and from the traders alone. They do not harass any customers. Though the legality and reasons for those dues are debatable, they never claim to be collecting it for the government. Sometimes, we do have a corrupt market union executive and they fleece their fellow traders. Balogun traders association comes to mind as I know a member of the executive who made more than 200 million naira from their relocation to Trade fair.[/quote]Are you aware of the dispute with regards to the leadership off the "traders union" and the effect of that dispute on traders, motorists, residents etc? (That's why it's not only residents that complained to the government about the market, even traders lodged complaints). |
My main concern is not necessarily in the immediate reopening of the market, but that they should devise a permanent solution to the problems. Many markets have been closed in Lagos, but some have gone the extra mile to devise permanent solutions to the problem. For example, traders at Alade Market converted their market to an ultra modern shopping complex after several closures. Since so much money flows through Ladipo Market, I believe that the traders have the wherewithal to do the same. Ladipo has been closed and reopened so many times, that it would be heartbreaking to hear that it was reopened and closed again. Like the task force chairman said, they should liaise with Lawma to solve the problem of refuse disposal, create a proper parking system, so that their customer's cars do not impede the flow of traffic, discourage street trading and dispose of diesel, engine oil and other chemicals properly. |
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nice humour, but you can say the same about any piece of clothing, including school uniforms.