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Anyone with a brand new note 7 pro (black)-6 gig/128 gig should quote me. I want to buy one.

This Lrorente is too slow.

Ekaka1:
That was a very unfortunate clatter between Ajax goal keeper and his player right there leading to the 2nd spurs goal .

Lucas mora....again!! Oohhh...this guy is the tormentor in chief in this 2nd half

Lrorente was too slow. He should have used his chest to guide the ball into the net. The guy needs to be sharper, not even making good use of his height.

Ozkar:
rubbish. Ronaldo was in a world class Madrid team when Dortmund thrashed them 4 - 1 to dump them out of the UCL. He also did nothing when Barca dumped them out. Or when Juve knocked them out in 2015.

His Juve team (undisputed kings of Italy for 8 years now) also got dumped out this season in the UCL even after he claimed he was signed to win the UCL for Juve. This is after getting battered by Atalanta to knock them out of their league cup.

The only reason Madrid won the UCL multiple times was cos they had very creative players (all Ronaldo needed to do was get in to scoring position for a header or tap-in), and when Ronaldo had bad games (like the semis and final last season), his teammates stood up and won the games regardless.

Biased idiota!
This tap-in of a thing is becoming so disrespectful. Do you know what it takes to always be available when the ball crosses the face of goal?
Moreover,how many of the life-saving goals Ronaldo scored were tap-ins?
I am sure you would have been happy if the midget had scored a tap-in yesterday.
Go and mourn in peace.
Ronaldo has nothing to prove to blind folks like you.

Akuruoulo:
U DID FORGET TO TELL US MESSI IS ALSO A GOOD DEFENDER, AT LEAST YESTERDAY PROVED IT. AT A CRUCIAL MOMENT HE TURNED A DEFENDER .

WHAT A GOOD DEFENDER.

AND RONALDO IS MILE BETTER THAN THOSE UR PELLE , MARADONA AND CO THAT'S WHY U CANT COMPARE HIM WITH THOSE ONES .
LEMME JUST KEEP QUIET AND C U AGREE ON ME PROVING CR7 IS BEST.

Hahahahaha
Messi is even a good goal keeper

DanXplore:
Sometimes, I wish that the IQ level of every nairalander is displayed on their profile so that one can be careful on who to engage. You say a lot of things that are false and baseless. Even if you are lazy to visit a competent site like fifa to get your facts, just visit any game shop( though not very reliable) and check the stats of both players. Your write up has a lot of inconsistencies and mix ups and I don’t know where to start. You appear to mix up centre forward position with ‘attack’ which is perhaps the most disappointing. CF is a subset of attack. Don’t you know that there is a difference between attacking LMF/RMF and midfield LMF/RMF? Don’t you know that being a CF as a false 9 is totally different from being a dedicated centring CF? I will not raise any more arguments on this subject as it is evident you do not know what you re saying. I will only engage you when I am convinced you understand the various football positions, roles, formation types and stats used to value a player. For now, you are not objective but just unnecessarily biased towards Ronaldo. Your prime source of error is the result of poor football education.

You argument is so laced with pain. Where did I say anything about LMF OR RMF. Kindly highlight anywahere in my write-up where you saw me talk about RMF and LMF.I only talked about LWF and RWF...you may want to go back to check.
Talking about false 9 and a dedicated CF, what has that gotten to do with the subject? You said Messi plays as a CF sometimes and I asked a simple question about his achievement in such roles. It is you who do not know what you are saying sir.You are just shifting the goal post. If you are coining points from your head, back them up with empirical evidences. Which of the points I raised about Ronaldo is false? Is he not the best nodder of the ball dead or alive? Is he not dual footed? Does he not have a better shot power than Messi? Does he not have a better velocity that Messi? His he not a better penalty taker than Messi? Does he not have a better mentality and confidence than Messi? Which of the following is false? Stick to the topic and stop shifting goal posts sir.

BlackManta:
What about game time.

How many matches did Coutinho play for Barça this season.
Mind you, the main reason why he is getting game time lately is because of Dembele's injury.
When Dembele was fully fit, Coutinho barely plays... He was always a bench warmer until Dembele's injury.
This is the guy they bought for €146m.
Look at what Barça reduced him to...Dembele's second fiddle

Coutinho at Liverpool was a star player, the most valued Liverpool player...he plays up to 45 games in a season and seldom warms the bench.
He scores goals and produces assists.

Coutinho may have won trophies at Barça but as an individual he regressed.
A time came when the Spanish press and the media started writing articles about him and asking questions about his future.

He's a shadow of his former self... Dembele's second fiddle.

You are very right. The mentality of a big club is to have at least 2/3 world class players in each position. If you warm the bench in a big club, does not mean you are not good....that is just their philosophy. Having said that, I really do feel for Coutinho.

Jayhazard:
Well, that's why I used Coutinho as a case study, not Suarez. Besides the season that Gerrard slipped against Chelsea and consequently cost them the EPL title, Liverpool hasn't come close to winning a major title than the not-too-distant previous seasons when Coutinho was still present. Coutinho's decision to leave the reds was understandable, but if he had been patient a little bit (with the knowledge of the great potentials embedded in the Liverpool team), he would be much happier right now.

This ideology is still a bit twisted in my opinion. It could have still gone either way.

DanXplore:
I try to avoid detailed analysis on both players especially on nairaland because i know alot of people do not play football in real life and as such will not understand why Messi is being referred to most as the GOAT. It is so funny of you say that Ronaldo will not put himself in position of danger. Incase you do not know, more than half of the time spent by teams practising to play against Barcelona is on how to stop Messi. You could easily confirm that. This is b3caue he is unpredictable. You can never tell whether he will give a dangerours through ball, dribble or score and so a huge chunk of the defence resource is allocated to stop these posibilities.

First of all we all know that Messi and Ronaldo play different roles. They are both great footballers but then there is a reason why Messi is being compared with Pelle, Maradona and co and Ronaldo is not. I am not trying to win any arguement as to who is better cause i doubt if you would be objective in your analysis. Here are some facts i will leave you with to judge.

[quote author=DanXplore post=78212766]1. Messi plays CF, SS, LWF, RWF, AMF, CMF and free roles. On the other hand, ronaldo plays CF and rarely plays LMF and RWF. This speaks much about versality.

What a joke! This point is useless to say the least...In his hay days, Ronaldo alternated between LWF,RWF,and CF. He reduced his mobility as he grew older and now plays more as a CF. When did Messi play as a CF and what was the outcome? Most players can play anywhere. It is not about just saying someone can play in a certain position. The question is, what is the overall outcome in such position.
My point is that , this one you mentioned is a very weak and watery comparison. I have even seen Eto play defence

DanXplore:
2. Ronaldo is a better CF and attacking LWF than Messi.

Another meanaingless comparison. By virtue of their play positions, he is supposed to e better than Messi in such positions while Messi is expected to be a better AMF than Ronaldo

DanXplore:
3. Messi is by far a better playmaker than Ronaldo. It has been proven severally.

Another meaningless comparision...........Ronaldo is not expected to be a playmaker by virtue of his positioning.....the play making role is more suitable for players who play often in the CAM and AMF.

DanXplore:
4. Messi is a more acurate long and short range pass maker than Ronaldo.

Messi strings in small small passes often by virtue of his role. However, Ronaldo has a better pass accuracy than Messi. So far so good, Ronaldo had about 85.3% pass accuracy last time I checked while Messi had around 82% pass accuracy.

DanXplore:
5. Messi is a better dribbler than Ronaldo

Yeah right.

DanXplore:
6. Ronaldo supercedes Messi in jump power, making him a great header. Ronaldo is a better striker.

Yeah right. Not only does he supercede him in this. Ronaldo is the gretaest nodder/ header of the ball in the history of football. No one does it better than him dead or alive. The closest should be the great Olivier Bierhoff.

DanXplore:
7. Messi plays the false 9 position. A position that requires only very skillful players. On the other hand, Ronaldo sometimes play the false winger which does not necessarily translate to uncommon skill, but means even though his crosses are good, he is best a striker.

Watery.

DanXplore:
8. Messi is a better free kick taker than Ronaldo.

Yeah...and Ronaldo is a better penalty taker than Messi.

Having said these,

1. Ronaldo is dual footed while Messi is one legged
2. Ronaldo has a better shot power than Messi
3. Ronaldo is a better long range shooter than Messi
4. Though Messi has a better acceleration than Ronaldo, Ronaldo has a better velocity than Messi
5. Messi has a better shot accuracy than Ronaldo

Above all, Ronaldo has a better mentality and confidence than Messi and barely fizzles out when the chips are down.

Jayhazard:
I want to use Coutinho as a case study.
• The grass isn't always greener on the other side, you may not be happy when you get there. (Coutinho left Liverpool for Barcelona, thinking he would be happier there, but now the criticism has heaped on him, and he doesn't seem to be happy in Barcelona.)
• Don't be in a hurry to succeed. (Coutinho left Liverpool for Barcelona, thinking he would get all the trophies he wished for. Well, so far, he has won the La liga trophy but Liverpool is on the verge of winning a more precious trophy than the la liga.)
• As long as you know you have the potentials, keep on pushing until you achieve your goals. (Liverpool has had it coming for a few seasons running now. They've had the potentials, especially with Coutinho around. They failed on several occasions, but now it seems like it's their time. Unfortunately, Coutinho isn't around to be a partaker. )
• Sometimes, that moment when you give up could be the moment when you're very close to your success. (He left last for Barcelona last season for greener pastures, giving up on Liverpool because of subsequent failures. It's just one season later, and Liverpool will be featuring in the UCL in their second successive final. )

After all these points, tell me why Liverpool won't win the UCL. This forms my basis for predicting Liverpool's success in the final.

There are no golden rules to this sir. On the flip side, Suarez left the same Liverpool for Barcelonia and so far so good, he has been far far more decorated than he would have been if he had remained at Liverpool.
Countinho leaving Liverpool for Barcelonia is just a normal career progression and career progressions should be encouraged.

BOOOMNAIJA:
The poster above me has completely lost touch of what beauty means.....

Below is real beauty.....

Hahahahah........Bobrisky is even finer than a lot of ladies

DanXplore:
I will bro. Give my comments some thought as well.

DanXplore:
LMAO. Bro, your critical reasoning skills are poor. No pun intended.

Your analytical skills are terrible. No pun intended.

DanXplore:
LMAO. Bro, your critical reasoning skills are poor. No pun intended.

You should rather work on your temperament.

Akuruoulo:
OK let me explain my previous post.
That pained fan posted a picture of messi where 5 players was running after him . and he said Players can't go after Ronaldo like that . but do u know that Ronaldo will never put himself in such danger, CU's he will pass the ball out and do a defense splitting run that will force u to give him a through pass.



No be waiting Ronaldo do against Ajax first leg


my explanation ends here, ND thank God Liverpool have slaughtered the goat barca gave out

Exactly!

DanXplore:
I posted the picture in response to a person's comment and not the op's topic. You cannot blame your presumptiousness and inability to follow through a train of thought on me. I still insist that Messi is better than all the aforementioned nevertheless.

Oh. I see!
The picture was irreleveant in the overall scheme of things anyway.................go mourn quietly, this is football, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. No need holding on to strings to justify whatever you feel.

DanXplore:
I posted the picture in response to a person's comment and not the op's topic. You cannot blame your presumptiousness and inability to follow through a train of thought on me. I still insist that Messi is better than all the aforementioned nevertheless.

You have the right to your thoughts my dear even without empirical evidence.

henrixx:
I disagree. Wasn't he there v Ajax? If not Messi who can do it for Barcelona?

[quote author=henrixx post=78210175]At Madrid there was marcelo, there was RAMOS, there was carvajal, there was BALE. these players could stand up when Madrid were down. Ronaldo mostly did it when there was no pressure

Stop watching TV with the back of your head Oga, At Manchester, did it against Chelsea and FC Porto
What did you mean there was no pressure? He murdered Bayern Munich in their prime at Real, did it against ATletico, rescued Madrid from Werder Bremen just to mention but a few.
.

henrixx:
2 finals v atletico where was Ronaldo, v Liverpool where was Ronaldo

He was in your house I guess Without his exploit enroute finals, would Real have smelled the finals? .

henrixx:
The players around you matter. At juve now they don't have such players who can stand up and that's why juve lost. There was no Costa, no chiellini, no mandzukic. These are the spirited players that can do it in such times. If Ronaldo and Messi aren't surrounded with spirited players there's nothing they can do

Players who can stand up for what exactly? Stop dragging Ronaldo into your miserable loss. Even a mad man knows that when it comes to stading up and delivering in tough moments, Ronaldo and Messi no be mate for that one...Ronaldo is more bankable why Messi fizzles out under the smallest pressure..........Messi is a fantastic player no doubt but Ronaldo no be him mate for this one wey you dey talk.

DanXplore:
There is absolutely no point stating the obvious. Liverpool is not the only team better than Barcelona. Man City, Juventus, PSG, Ajax and Tottenham are all better than Barcelona to me. The point is that the loss does not detract from the fact that Messi is the GOAT. Messi is the difference in Barcelona now but sadly, football is not like basket ball where one good man can make the difference.

So, why were you bringing up the picture as though you wanted to justify that it was the way he was marked that made Barcelonia lose the game..........He played absolutely rubbish aside 1-2 shots and maybe 1 or 2 passes during the attack.........he was handicapped and irrelevant in the scheme of things yesterday. GOAT indeed that lacks inspiration...go and read about all the acclaimed GOATS........Pele, Maradona and the likes, even C Ronaldo...........they inspire when the chips are down! and that is a characteristic your diminutive goat lacks.

internationalman:
yeah Ronaldo lost out bcoz probably it's a World Cup year..

but nevertheless I still see a Messi as the front runner though, not a stroll in the park now that they have been eliminated

Ronaldo did not lose out because it is a world cup year, he lost because he was cheated.

BrainnewsRadio:
Read More At: https://www.brainnewsradio.com/lessons-i-learnt-from-liverpool-vs-barcelona-champions-league-match/

LESSONS LEARNT
1. Never say "die" until the bones are rotten.
2. The end justifies the means.
3. A rejected stone can become the chief corner stone(Divock Origi)
4. Tap-in is a crucial part of a game ( I am sure Barca fans even begged for a tap-in yesterday )
5. A tree cannot make a forest.(Messi as an example)
6. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade( injurey to a Liverpool player during the match saw the addition of a game changer).
7. Man is bound to face troubles but through faith and perseverance, he conquers all.
8. When the going gets tough, the tough should get going.
9. Be fearless!
10. Do not be too complacent (Barcelonia example)

DanXplore:
Has Ronaldo ever been marked like Messi in the photo below?

Was that why Barcelonia lost?
Oga, go and sit down and mourn your loss sensibly. Liverpool was better than Barcelonia in all areas of the game..................even in the first leg, Liverpool played far far better but were not just so clinical.